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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:07:44 PM EST
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Surely the stormfront people had to converge somewhere else? They had over 300k members where did they all go?
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:10:54 PM EST
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As do I. What I don't want is to be told I need to join forces with them against a common enemy. They are my enemy. What I don't want is to tolerate jumping to conclusions and blaming any and everything before the facts are in as to the culprit. But, clearly, facts don't even matter to these people, as facts don't trump their truth. Do you beIieve for a second we would see this type and level of outrage if some activist group got the hosting company of the BLM website to terminate their support? I don't support antifa or the left. I'm about as far from left as you can get. But I sure as fuck don't support the White Nationalists, despite the handful of posters here telling me I'd better jump in on "their side" since the leftists are already calling me a racist. And I don't buy that logic, either. As to the matter at hand, I think people probably jumped the gun. If, in fact, there is some actual ICANN and provider shenanigans going on that keeps Stormfront from buying hosting services with a company that would sell it to them, then yeah, that's bullshit. But lets wait to see stripes before we call the hoofbeats a zebra stampede. The most mundane answer, that they're having the same trouble anyone would have getting their site back up after a last minute notice, sounds like the most plausible one. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:13:01 PM EST
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Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're Leftist. Which is more backed up by facts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:14:41 PM EST
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As do I. What I don't want is to be told I need to join forces with them against a common enemy. They are my enemy. What I don't want is to tolerate jumping to conclusions and blaming any and everything before the facts are in as to the culprit. But, clearly, facts don't even matter to these people, as facts don't trump their truth. Do you beIieve for a second we would see this type and level of outrage if some activist group got the hosting company of the BLM website to terminate their support? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. > t. Native American What I don't want is to be told I need to join forces with them against a common enemy. They are my enemy. What I don't want is to tolerate jumping to conclusions and blaming any and everything before the facts are in as to the culprit. But, clearly, facts don't even matter to these people, as facts don't trump their truth. Do you beIieve for a second we would see this type and level of outrage if some activist group got the hosting company of the BLM website to terminate their support? The same can not be said for the leftists, they are an entirely credible and active threat to anyone who doesn't share their ideology. They are currently engaged in both low level direct action and much more broad battle space shaping operations, in order to facilitate further direct actions against the their politcal opponents. So while Nazis and Commies are both assholes, one is an annoyance and the other is an active threat. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:17:18 PM EST
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So all the stuff posted here about the conspiracy by icann and registrar's against Stormfront isn't true? Someone has control off their domain name?
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:17:38 PM EST
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Ask him to produce tangible proof you are a leftist and see if he can come up with anything.
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts?
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:20:50 PM EST
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You referring to ANTIFA, BLM, et al, as a mental "construction" of people on the right, pretty much blows your claims of being a right winger out of the water. There's no reason to provide top cover to domestic terrorist organizations unless you support them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts?
There's no reason to provide top cover to domestic terrorist organizations unless you support them. Assuming I did say that (which I didn't), how does that correlate to my views on the proper role of government and my views on social issues? Show me where I said I support ANTIFA or BLM please. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:21:10 PM EST
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Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're Leftist. Which is more backed up by facts? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:23:37 PM EST
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Well, there are tens of millions of no shit leftists in this country and only a few tens of thousands worth of anything that can even be loosely called "neo-Nazis". So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:24:58 PM EST
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Here's hoping storefront comes back. Elsewise, you can rest assured sites like arfcom will be next. These leftist idiots see no difference between the two.
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:27:29 PM EST
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So all the stuff posted here about the conspiracy by icann and registrar's against Stormfront isn't true? Someone has control off their domain name? edit Network Solutions is a registrar |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:30:27 PM EST
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Is that what I said? Assuming I did say that (which I didn't), how does that correlate to my views on the proper role of government and my views on social issues? Show me where I said I support ANTIFA or BLM please. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's no reason to provide top cover to domestic terrorist organizations unless you support them. Assuming I did say that (which I didn't), how does that correlate to my views on the proper role of government and my views on social issues? Show me where I said I support ANTIFA or BLM please. Quoted:
Pinochet used to throw leftist out of helicopters to eliminate the opposition. Its what a bunch of modern civil war LARPers advocate doing to people they have constructed as their enemy. I noticed you becoming more vocal in your "support" of various right wing positions after I called you out repeatedly for being a leftist. I'm sure that was just a coincidence though, and not born of your realization that your credibility was shot to shit among the membership. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:32:45 PM EST
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:33:42 PM EST
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Surely the stormfront people had to converge somewhere else? They had over 300k members where did they all go? Have no idea what that means, but it sounds interesting. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:34:03 PM EST
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Nobody really knows, unless @goatboy has back-channel information. It's reasonable, given the current climate, to connect dots between this situation and what happened to Daily Stormer.  ) that said Networks solutions was holding things and implies they are the registrar, although the sentence is not clear if that is accurate
http://www.salon.com/2017/08/28/stormfront-internets-oldest-major-racist-website-has-domain-suspended/ |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:35:47 PM EST
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This should concern us, as to the vulnerability of our online home. I have not visited Stormfront to verify, but the site owner essentially claims to have a COC limiting just how far the members can go in their posted thoughts. Just like we do. If there's another nationally sensationalized shooting, who's to say we're going to be safe? This Lawyer's Committee for Civil Rights Under Law appears, on cursory glance, to be a sort of lawyer's SJW group. ETA: Any whacko who visited ARFCOM and then murdered people would have the media saying that we're a haven for plotting the deaths of others. It won't matter that we have actively enforced rules specifically banning such talk. Stormfront got shoved into the memory hole for Wrongthink. Here you get discenting opinions and posters will call out unprovoked violence or stupiduty. I imagine SF was fairly homogenous in that regard. Also, note people in this thread complained about getting warnings for suggesting commies should be thrown from helicopters... I suspect SF doesn't have the same moderation standards. Activist groups are savvy nowadays. They spend months collecting evidence; so I wouldn't be surprised if they are already here logging complaints to see if the mods do anything or not. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:36:54 PM EST
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What neo-Nazi organizations are actively engaging in domestic terrorism? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. More top cover, I see. My Nazi dindu nothin'! |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:38:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow, I am sure "noticing" is some a great objective analytical tool. Perhaps we should adopt that as part of the scientific method. Perhaps you should go back farther back and "notice" some of my older posts. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:41:48 PM EST
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So I never mentioned ANTIFA or BLM? Where do I mention that I support those organizations or their activities? Wow, I am sure "noticing" is some a great objective analytical tool. Perhaps we should adopt that as part of the scientific method. Perhaps you should go back farther back and "notice" some of my older posts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Wow, I am sure "noticing" is some a great objective analytical tool. Perhaps we should adopt that as part of the scientific method. Perhaps you should go back farther back and "notice" some of my older posts. 2) You say Nazis are bad 3) Therefore, you support Antifa Sound, RenegadeJack-style logic. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:42:09 PM EST
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Right this minute? More top cover, I see. My Nazi dindu nothin'! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. More top cover, I see. My Nazi dindu nothin'! Meanwhile ANTIFA and BLM are rioting, destroying property, and committing ongoing acts of violence against political opposition. Yet you want people to focus on the Nazis, strange. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:43:26 PM EST
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Exactly, you'd have to go all the way back to OKC at least, to find anything that could even be remotely linked to some sort of white supremacist violence. Meanwhile ANTIFA and BLM are rioting, destroying property, and committing ongoing acts of violence against political opposition. Yet you want people to focus on the Nazis, strange. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. More top cover, I see. My Nazi dindu nothin'! Meanwhile ANTIFA and BLM are rioting, destroying property, and committing ongoing acts of violence against political opposition. Yet you want people to focus on the Nazis, strange. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:44:30 PM EST
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So I never mentioned ANTIFA or BLM? Where do I mention that I support those organizations or their activities? Wow, I am sure "noticing" is some a great objective analytical tool. Perhaps we should adopt that as part of the scientific method. Perhaps you should go back farther back and "notice" some of my older posts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Wow, I am sure "noticing" is some a great objective analytical tool. Perhaps we should adopt that as part of the scientific method. Perhaps you should go back farther back and "notice" some of my older posts. That's all it really takes to neutralize you. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:46:26 PM EST
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No, I don't want to apologize or carry water for the Nazis. Yet, you do. Strange. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure the good folks at Stormfront wouldn't care much for me either. Oh no people aren't accepting the narrative I'm pushing, time to imply they're racist. Classic Bohr_Adam. Which is more backed up by facts? So by probability alone my claim is much more likely to be true than yours. More top cover, I see. My Nazi dindu nothin'! Meanwhile ANTIFA and BLM are rioting, destroying property, and committing ongoing acts of violence against political opposition. Yet you want people to focus on the Nazis, strange. Fake news. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:47:56 PM EST
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There's nothing to apologize for because they haven't actually done anything, they're a leftist boogeyman. Fake news. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:47:59 PM EST
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What neo-Nazi organizations are actively engaging in domestic terrorism? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:50:11 PM EST
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Besides run people over in the streets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's nothing to apologize for because they haven't actually done anything, they're a leftist boogeyman. Fake news. That anyone can contrive to portray that situation to be domestic terrorism on the part of anyone but ANTIFA is laughable. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:51:24 PM EST
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:51:36 PM EST
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It's sufficient enough for me to just keep calling you out so your credibility remains in the shit heap. That's all it really takes to neutralize you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:52:26 PM EST
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Exactly, you'd have to go all the way back to OKC at least, to find anything that could even be remotely linked to some sort of white supremacist violence. How about the stabbing of Timothy Caughman? Maybe the killing spree of David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby? The shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Overland Park, KS? The Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek, WI? Just to name a few. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:52:56 PM EST
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I found an article on another site (admittedly Salon ) that said Networks solutions was holding things and implies they are the registrar, although the sentence is not clear if that is accurate
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:54:05 PM EST
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ANTIFA attacks rally, attacks cars, gets run over. That anyone can contrive to portray that situation to be domestic terrorism on the part of anyone but ANTIFA is laughable. Sure I saw that video of the woman he killed attacking his car, oh wait, that never happened 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:54:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThere you have it. yeah they are getting screwed
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:55:05 PM EST
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So you can't actually find any posts of mine that supports ANTIFA or BLM? How do you know my credibility is in the shit heap, is that something you just "notice"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:56:27 PM EST
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So that thing in Charlottesville didn't count? How about the stabbing of Timothy Caughman? Maybe the killing spree of David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby? The shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Overland Park, KS? The Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek, WI? Just to name a few. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:56:37 PM EST
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Are you one of the people who thinks mean words are the same as violence? Are you one of those people who has insights regarding active engagement in domestic terrorism? |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:57:55 PM EST
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Attacked car, bwah ha ha ha Sure I saw that video of the woman he killed attacking his car, oh wait, that never happened http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ANTIFA attacks rally, attacks cars, gets run over. That anyone can contrive to portray that situation to be domestic terrorism on the part of anyone but ANTIFA is laughable. Sure I saw that video of the woman he killed attacking his car, oh wait, that never happened http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:58:27 PM EST
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There's nothing to apologize for because they haven't actually done anything, they're a leftist boogeyman. Fake news. IIRC, the course of events was: guy drives car, lefty mob attacks car, guy driving car runs over lefty who is actively attacking the car. Not an unprovoked action on the part of the driver. EDIT: I was wrong. After reviewing more videos, the Challenger appears to have driven into the crowd unprovoked. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 1:59:42 PM EST
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Stupid inbred fucks burned down a Sikh temple thinking it was muslim http://www.syracuse.com/vintage/2016/11/throwback_thursday_arson_damag.html 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:00:19 PM EST
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You can push your CNN style analysis of what happened, but it's a lie. She was part of an armed mob who went there to attack the rally. They had engaged in violence throughout the day and immediately prior to the incident other members of the mob attacked his car. She got run over, tough break for the commie cow. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:00:37 PM EST
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So that thing in Charlottesville didn't count? How about the stabbing of Timothy Caughman? Maybe the killing spree of David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby? The shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Overland Park, KS? The Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek, WI? Just to name a few. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:02:56 PM EST
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So that thing in Charlottesville didn't count? How about the stabbing of Timothy Caughman? Maybe the killing spree of David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby? The shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Overland Park, KS? The Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek, WI? Just to name a few. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Exactly, you'd have to go all the way back to OKC at least, to find anything that could even be remotely linked to some sort of white supremacist violence. How about the stabbing of Timothy Caughman? Maybe the killing spree of David Pedersen and Holly Grigsby? The shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Overland Park, KS? The Sikh Temple shooting in Oak Creek, WI? Just to name a few. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:03:52 PM EST
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You know it too Tmac, I'm not the only one who calls out your horseshit, just one of your favorite sparring partners. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:05:17 PM EST
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Ha ha, she was standing around when a sadsack Nazi who lived alone with his cat and had no friends, except maybe 'that black friend" his poor mom mentioned, ran her over, she wasn't attacking him. "The scary kid who didn't take his meds", not exactly a shining example of the master race. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can push your CNN style analysis of what happened, but it's a lie. She was part of an armed mob who went there to attack the rally. They had engaged in violence throughout the day and immediately prior to the incident other members of the mob attacked his car. She got run over, tough break for the commie cow. There no "Nazi clause" in the Bill of Rights. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:06:01 PM EST
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For it to meet the definition of terrorism it has to be engaged in to serve a politcal purpose. Just because a person commits a violent act doesn't mean it rises to the level of "terrorism". |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:06:17 PM EST
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He certainly appears to be a loser, but losers don't lose their free speech rights or their right to not be attacked by an armed mob. There no "Nazi clause" in the Bill of Rights. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:07:38 PM EST
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:09:14 PM EST
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:09:30 PM EST
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He certainly appears to be a loser, but losers don't lose their free speech rights or their right to not be attacked by an armed mob. There no "Nazi clause" in the Bill of Rights. EDIT: I was wrong. After reviewing more videos, the Challenger appears to have driven into the crowd unprovoked. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:13:44 PM EST
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That's been the definition for decades. |
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Posted: 8/28/2017 2:17:58 PM EST
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So it only counts as terrorism if the Nazi mullahs from whitetrashistan post a video accepting responsibility? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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