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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:56:15 PM EST

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Today's pro second amendment sites, are tomorrows nazis.

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Is this a "1st they came for stormfront" moment?

Will they be coming for Arfcom?

Today's pro second amendment sites, are tomorrows nazis.

Close. Those Sites are Today's Nazis.

The carefully orchestrated Nazi Panic(tm), is just practice.
A training excercise. An easy Win, to motivate the troops.

In reality, the Left hates us far more than any FugaziNazi.

It doesn't matter how far left we bend, or how politically correct we try to be. We are the enemy.

Posted: 8/25/2017 11:58:51 PM EST

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OK. One more time for people who couldn't sit through the whole 4 minutes of a School House Rock animated short...

The 1st Amendment prevents the government from abridging your right to free speech.

There is no comparable protection in the private sector. A business can shut you down for whatever reason.

This has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.

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1st amendment doesn't set well with some folks around here, unless they agree with you. This'll be good.

OK. One more time for people who couldn't sit through the whole 4 minutes of a School House Rock animated short...

The 1st Amendment prevents the government from abridging your right to free speech.

There is no comparable protection in the private sector. A business can shut you down for whatever reason.

This has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.

Actually, some protections DO extend. Also, when a platform is an effective monopoly (like Google), they are held to different standards (think utility). I do agree with the post above that pointed out it is FAR better for them to be where we can see them. They are enemies every bit as much as socialists/ communists/ anarchists, and should be kept track of.

Posted: 8/25/2017 11:59:17 PM EST

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I don't care if you like or hate Stormfront! They are going after any organization that the left opposes.

What forum is going to be the lefts next victim? ARFCOM going to be targeted as neo nazi " white male" group next?

If Trump has much more shakeup in the WH, he is going lose in 2020. You think the suit fom the left is bad now? Wait till another democrat takes the WH.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:01:31 AM EST

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One is a criminal action that is temporary and would not have happened if they kept their IT in the current decade. The other is part of a deliberate effort to destroy speech that is going to swing back around on everyone they do not agree with, and this site will be on the target list.

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"DU got hacked, ha ha good riddance!"
"Stormfront got shut down by their service provider, it's an outrage"

One is a criminal action that is temporary and would not have happened if they kept their IT in the current decade. The other is part of a deliberate effort to destroy speech that is going to swing back around on everyone they do not agree with, and this site will be on the target list.

[Aimless]It can't happen here.[/Aimless]

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:01:35 AM EST

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One is a criminal action that is temporary and would not have happened if they kept their IT in the current decade. The other is part of a deliberate effort to destroy speech that is going to swing back around on everyone they do not agree with, and this site will be on the target list.

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"DU got hacked, ha ha good riddance!"
"Stormfront got shut down by their service provider, it's an outrage"

One is a criminal action that is temporary and would not have happened if they kept their IT in the current decade. The other is part of a deliberate effort to destroy speech that is going to swing back around on everyone they do not agree with, and this site will be on the target list.

Wait, so you are blaming DU for a criminal act that someone else committed?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:02:41 AM EST

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They'll come for places like Breitbart next, and when all right wing news media is shut down they'll come for the forums. They'll come for places like this. Eventually. It will happen, just watch.

Freedom of speech as an ideal is fucking dead. Just disgusting.

WTF happened to people? Are they so eager to give away rights and freedoms for the sake of "security", "not offending others", and other such nonsense?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:02:56 AM EST

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I used to live next to their HQ, when I was in West Palm beach. It's a father son team. Their yard was always full of junk.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:04:42 AM EST

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BINGO! Any pro constitutional that is supported by white males will be deemed Nazi's.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:05:22 AM EST

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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LoL.

You could post this 10,000 times, and still certain people won't get it.

They didn't get it the first couple hundred times, and they won't get it now.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:05:38 AM EST

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It gives one less extreme thing for them to compare conservatives to.

What are they going to do once they realize conservatives are your average joe who's a little punk rock and is the life of the party?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:05:50 AM EST

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I just googled it. Unless there is more than one website out there using that name it's still up and running as a .org

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:07:10 AM EST

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I would laugh just as much if Storm Front got hacked.

I would be just as outraged if DU was shut down by their internet host.

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"DU got hacked, ha ha good riddance!"
"Stormfront got shut down by their service provider, it's an outrage"

I would laugh just as much if Storm Front got hacked.

I would be just as outraged if DU was shut down by their internet host.

Wait, so you laugh about criminal activity and then are outraged over perfectly legal actions?

Quite odd of you

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:07:16 AM EST

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I'm gonna laugh with irony when they get around to taking down ARFCOM, just like when they get to the US Presidents and War Memorial Statues.

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Maybe so, but we won't know it

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:08:40 AM EST

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During the Obama days, ARFCOM was listed as a "potential domestic terrorist" and watched heavily. This includes persons in positions and the most vocal folks. I spoke often to friends in the FBI and they confirmed. Nothing every happened, but to me, that is one step away from being raided/shut down. If Hillary had won, who knows where this place would be.

You can't give up on freedoms like the 1st or 2nd. Once the government begins to move in, they will not stop. This is a sad day for free speech and for the internet.

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I think it incredibly naive to not think Arf could be listed as a hate site of potential domestic terrorists under a Kamala Harris administration that makes Obama's look like the last bastion of freedom.

During the Obama days, ARFCOM was listed as a "potential domestic terrorist" and watched heavily. This includes persons in positions and the most vocal folks. I spoke often to friends in the FBI and they confirmed. Nothing every happened, but to me, that is one step away from being raided/shut down. If Hillary had won, who knows where this place would be.

You can't give up on freedoms like the 1st or 2nd. Once the government begins to move in, they will not stop. This is a sad day for free speech and for the internet.

Sad day indeed.

I'm blown away by the number of people in here cheering. One day they'll wake up to find Arfcom gone.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:08:53 AM EST

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I agree entirely. Hacking is a failure on our part as site owners. It will, or has, happened to most of us. That is recoverable and a bitch to clean up, but it's not scorched earth type shit. Shutting down a site like this, over emotions run amok, is an insult to everyone who has fought for our freedoms. I don't agree with either site above, but I do agree that they have the right to speak.

I will stand by this as well: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

If America can't find it's way back, we are in for one hell of a rough ride. It's just like we say here about gun rights, once we give them an inch, they will take a mile. This is why those old school "hunters" who said let them take our ARs were beaten back and put in their place. This is why we fought for the NRA to see us as equals. If we sit back and say "it's only a [blank] website" then we deserve what's coming our way.

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I would laugh just as much if Storm Front got hacked.

I would be just as outraged if DU was shut down by their internet host.

I agree entirely. Hacking is a failure on our part as site owners. It will, or has, happened to most of us. That is recoverable and a bitch to clean up, but it's not scorched earth type shit. Shutting down a site like this, over emotions run amok, is an insult to everyone who has fought for our freedoms. I don't agree with either site above, but I do agree that they have the right to speak.

I will stand by this as well: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

If America can't find it's way back, we are in for one hell of a rough ride. It's just like we say here about gun rights, once we give them an inch, they will take a mile. This is why those old school "hunters" who said let them take our ARs were beaten back and put in their place. This is why we fought for the NRA to see us as equals. If we sit back and say "it's only a [blank] website" then we deserve what's coming our way.

Better to stand up on your hind hooves and 'emthe horns in the dick than blindly catch the mallet at the trough When your flanks get chubby enough for the larder.

You know, The value of human life is getting lower by the day in this country.. Truth has no value at all.

Much of the cool stuff going on with guns is because of this site. You guys will catch a mallet if keep your eyes on the carrot. there are insidious forces at work , and it is in your din bearding itself with money maybe.

The world Has gone Quite mad. Treason and sedition nakedly on display and people just shuffle past it caught up in the 2017 East Coast American version of the big lie dialectic Goebbels harnessed to drive the german Men to their suicides and German women to rape by Stalins slave armies that used equipment made by American machines given by lend lease. The FDr administration had taken over all domestic production and had started the build up to war years in advance of pearl harbor. Quite mad.

At least you dont have this kind of problem.Tehee

I didn't give a fuck about stormfront when there was a stormfront so I have none now that there ain't one.

All Stormfront is is a heel for the left. I would not be surprised if many of its contributors are jews heeling against themselves to justify their status as a victim group of whites 70 years after America saved their asses and give them a bit of palestine. They get caught all of the time calling in bomb threats and shit on themselves.

how does a people that we saved from their own ethos get off with that BS.

The guy who made the Nazi Pepes that Hillary Clinton referred to in her Alt Right Speech was a Jewish troll from 4chan.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:09:45 AM EST

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People would be surprised at how big the Aryan Nation organization is and many of them are college-educated and 15% of them make six figures.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:10:05 AM EST

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I just googled it. Unless there is more than one website out there using that name it's still up and running as a .org

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Click on the link and then tell me it's still up and running.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:10:34 AM EST

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Again, It's not gone. I just googled it and unless there is more than one website forum using that name it's still up as a .org

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:11:30 AM EST

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It gives one less extreme thing for them to compare conservatives to.

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Oh wait... you're serious...

You falsely assume these people retain some semblance of sanity. It doesn't matter for shit what you are, what matters is what they think you are. And they think you're an evil, racist, imperialist, gay exterminating, nazi white man who hates the poor. Therefore you must be assimilated or killed in order to further the agenda of "equality" and "progress".

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:12:25 AM EST

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This was easy pickings, and just the first step.

We are all Nazis in the eyes of the leftists and don't you ever forget that.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:12:40 AM EST

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Again, It's not gone. I just googled it and unless there is more than one website forum using that name it's still up as a .org

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Did you click the Google link yet?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:12:47 AM EST

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I don't need to click on any other link. A simple Google search has it coming up as a full forum as a .org.

And yes, that forum is still up and running.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:14:09 AM EST

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Again, It's not gone. I just googled it and unless there is more than one website forum using that name it's still up as a .org

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EDIT: Nevermind, see other reply below.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:14:40 AM EST

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People would be surprised at how big the Aryan Nation organization is and many of them are college-educated and 15% of them make six figures.

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Lots of those alt righty tiki torch guys are white collar

People would be surprised at how big the Aryan Nation organization is and many of them are college-educated and 15% of them make six figures.

How big?

Is there a credible source for this or is it just some ADL/SPLC junk?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:15:51 AM EST

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I don't need to click on any other link. A simple Google search has it coming up as a full forum as a .org.

And yes, that forum is still up and running.

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Click on the link and then tell me it's still up and running.

I don't need to click on any other link. A simple Google search has it coming up as a full forum as a .org.

And yes, that forum is still up and running.

Did you actually click on it?!?!

If you had, you'd have realized it's down. Just because it shows up on googles search page doesn't mean it isn't down.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:16:26 AM EST

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They'll come for places like Breitbart next, and when all right wing news media is shut down they'll come for the forums. They'll come for places like this. Eventually. It will happen, just watch.

Freedom of speech as an ideal is fucking dead. Just disgusting.

WTF happened to people? Are they so eager to give away rights and freedoms for the sake of "security", "not offending others", and other such nonsense?

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Yep I've been saying for a long time they want to control what people say online. The Benghazi failed YouTube thing was an attempt to gain ground in the public opinion. The cyber bullying thing is another angle. Even Fox with their ISIS online radicalization narrative is another talking point. Seriously next terror attack listen to how many times they say something about online radicalization.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:17:26 AM EST

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How do you guys find out it was gone? I can't find anything about it by googling

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Tried to login to my, uhhh, "research" account. Yeah, that's the ticket. I go there to mock them for being the Leftists they are, just like I do at DU.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:17:31 AM EST

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Yes it is. You're on the wrong site.

All the info is right there in the OP. Not hard.

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WRONG! It's showing up just fine and it IS the same .org

Maybe your browser or Google is blocking it.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:18:07 AM EST

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And yes, that forum is still up and running.

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Click on the link and then tell me it's still up and running.

I don't need to click on any other link. A simple Google search has it coming up as a full forum as a .org.

And yes, that forum is still up and running.

Uh, no.

http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/stormfront.org.html

It's been down for over two days.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:18:27 AM EST

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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:19:01 AM EST

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I thought Jews were considered white? I'm not being a dick, seriously I thought this was all about skin color?

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KKK hates Jews and Catholics just as much as people of African descent.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:20:55 AM EST

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Did the government shut them down?

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Some people need to understand what ICANN and a near monoply of handful companies that are receiving large $$$$$ from various USG agencies and others means.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:21:49 AM EST

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LoL.

You could post this 10,000 times, and still certain people won't get it.

They didn't get it the first couple hundred times, and they won't get it now.

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in the last few years since I been here, you can see a big change and shift the left from a good handful of idiot's here.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:22:11 AM EST

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They used to pop up on gun searches. One of them wrote a book about building lowers out of oddball stuff like wood and brass

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Got it. I just figured out what stormfront actually is was. Yeah, buncha Nazi shit. My bad

They used to pop up on gun searches. One of them wrote a book about building lowers out of oddball stuff like wood and brass

Yep, I remember searching for AR shit years back (before joining this site) and clicking on links and being like

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But it's scary shit to have this concerted effort to shut them down. I guarantee in the right political climate this site will be on the chopping block some day, maybe sooner than later.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:23:46 AM EST

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It's coming up just fine on my smartphone as well.

Never been on that site before but it's not worth reading. back to the real storm.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:24:58 AM EST

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It's a theft issue, these private companies seized the domain so that it couldn't be rehosted elsewhere.

ICANN is refusing to allow it to be transferred. There are several registrar companies that would be willing to host it but ICANN won't allow it.

ICANN was handed a total monopoly by the US government under Obama, specifically so that it could engage in actions like this as an ostensibly "private" company.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:29:20 AM EST

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I'm gonna laugh with irony when they get around to taking down ARFCOM, just like when they get to the US Presidents and War Memorial Statues.

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I'm not going to laugh but I won't be shocked when it happens.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:29:47 AM EST

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It's coming up just fine on my smartphone as well.

Never been on that site before but it's not worth reading. back to the real storm.

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Posted: 8/26/2017 12:29:57 AM EST

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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.

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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.

Wrong.

The internet is the new meeting hall, the modern town square. There are too many people in too many places in a very much interconnected world for the internet to not be a protected speech platform.

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Quoted: Some people need to understand what ICANN and a near monoply of handful companies that are receiving large $ from various USG agencies and others means.

Monopolies are bad. IDGAF what the uber capitalists here say, this is the kind of shit that happens when you allow monopolies to run amok. When a few businesses control so much of the info stream they can easily hinder free speech. When you only see what a couple CEOs want you to see and have no other option that isn't free speech or freedom of information or freedom of commerce. It's corporations becoming the government. A tyrannical, oppressive, controlling government to be exact.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:30:58 AM EST

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OK. One more time for people who couldn't sit through the whole 4 minutes of a School House Rock animated short...

The 1st Amendment prevents the government from abridging your right to free speech.

There is no comparable protection in the private sector. A business can shut you down for whatever reason.

This has nothing to do with the 1st Amendment.

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This is true

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:30:59 AM EST

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It's a theft issue, these private companies seized the domain so that it couldn't be rehosted elsewhere.

ICANN is refusing to allow it to be transferred. There are several registrar companies that would be willing to host it but ICANN won't allow it.

ICANN was handed a total monopoly by the US government under Obama, specifically so that it could engage in actions like this as an ostensibly "private" company.

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Did the government shut them down?

If not, this isn't a Freedom of Speech issue.

Some of you need a fuckin' civics class.

It's a theft issue, these private companies seized the domain so that it couldn't be rehosted elsewhere.

ICANN is refusing to allow it to be transferred. There are several registrar companies that would be willing to host it but ICANN won't allow it.

ICANN was handed a total monopoly by the US government under Obama, specifically so that it could engage in actions like this as an ostensibly "private" company.

Fundamentally transforming the United States of America.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:31:29 AM EST

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Ar15.onion?

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Of course judging by the technical savy of most posters... it will be a lot less crowded, I'm sure SharBlu will still find its way in.

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I'm gonna laugh with irony when they get around to taking down ARFCOM, just like when they get to the US Presidents and War Memorial Statues.

You will not be laughing on Arfcom that if for sure.

Ar15.onion?

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Of course judging by the technical savy of most posters... it will be a lot less crowded, I'm sure SharBlu will still find its way in.

behind 7 proxy edgelord

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:31:52 AM EST

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How big?

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They had a documentary on it and seen it in Canada years back. I was surprised at the high rollers in the org. They been around since the 70's and you don't hear much about the group.

They are big in Canada too.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:32:17 AM EST

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I thought Jews were considered white? I'm not being a dick, seriously I thought this was all about skin color?

KKK hates Jews and Catholics just as much as people of African descent.

But they love single payer and devout Socialism. Ironic, eh?

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:33:40 AM EST

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It's coming up just fine on my smartphone as well.

Never been on that site before but it's not worth reading. back to the real storm.

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My old website I shut down two years ago still shows on a google search. It doesn't mean it's still there.

Stormfront is gone.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:35:34 AM EST

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Actually, some protections DO extend. Also, when a platform is an effective monopoly (like Google), they are held to different standards (think utility).I do agree with the post above that pointed out it is FAR better for them to be where we can see them. They are enemies every bit as much as socialists/ communists/ anarchists, and should be kept track of.

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That's a very socialist thing to say.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:35:54 AM EST

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My old website I shut down two years ago still shows on a google search. It doesn't mean it's still there.

Stormfront is gone.

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It's coming up just fine on my smartphone as well.

Never been on that site before but it's not worth reading. back to the real storm.

My old website I shut down two years ago still shows on a google search. It doesn't mean it's still there.

Stormfront is gone.

Don't bother, the dude doesn't get it. Some people still don't know how the internet works.

Posted: 8/26/2017 12:36:29 AM EST

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They'll come for places like Breitbart next, and when all right wing news media is shut down they'll come for the forums. They'll come for places like this. Eventually. It will happen, just watch.

Freedom of speech as an ideal is fucking dead. Just disgusting.

WTF happened to people? Are they so eager to give away rights and freedoms for the sake of "security", "not offending others", and other such nonsense?

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Fox has gone left.