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Posted: 12/8/2015 12:07:43 AM EST
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Any wolverines going to the citrus bowl?
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Posted: 12/8/2015 12:22:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand they made a huge mistake. That's why I said something needs to be done. What I don't agree with is your form of "capital punishment" Your even wanting to fire the entire crew. People make mistakes. Have you ever made a mistake at work? Did you get fired? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The line in Vegas was NC +5 The refs couldn't "afford" to let NC get the ball back  Maybe the refs won enough money to retire then because the ACC crew that blew this call should be fired and never allowed to ref another game Mistakes happen and the game moves a lot faster in real time on the field than it does on TV. Maybe there needs to be replay on penalties that involve a possible possession change and / or score. I don't want to see the game get bogged down with a ton of replays but there needs to be something done about penalities that can change the outcome of a game significantly like a turnover or score. This game and the Miami / Duke game come to mind where a reviewable penalty would have changed the outcome of 1 game for sure and possibly another. One was on a change of possession penalty and the other a possible penalty on a touchdown. Both major game changers. I know how fast the game is and seeing and making calls in real time but on this play, a kickoff, the ref looking straight down the line and the Tarheel players being not even close to the line? no not on this play was the call so close that it could go either way So one team stayed in the playoff and another team lost their shot at getting into the playoff because of the refs fuck up on a play that wasn't even close to being offside I understand they made a huge mistake. That's why I said something needs to be done. What I don't agree with is your form of "capital punishment" Your even wanting to fire the entire crew. People make mistakes. Have you ever made a mistake at work? Did you get fired? Ok, just kill err I mean fire the responsible ref or at least suspend him for 75 years If this call wouldn't have made a difference in teams being in or out of the playoff then ok nobody gets kil..er fired but this may have been the difference in one team being booted and another team getting in the playoffs I am sure Stanford wishes this dope of a ref didn't lose his eyesight for a second or two and give N.C. a chance to tie the game and possibly win in OT We will never know now what could have happened, I realize this but that offside call wasn't even close to being offside but it's over now all N.C. and Stanford can say now is "What if" |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 5:53:36 AM EST
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I'm just saying that y'all may look back on CMR's recruits with envy 3 or so seasons down the road. I think most Georgia fans were more than willing to assume that risk just to get Richt out of Athens. Goff and Donnan were also great recruiters, but it never really translated to on the field results...kind of like we have seen with Richt over the last decade. Do I think Smart is the perfect hire? Probably not the perfect hire, but I think he is pretty close....and I really don't believe the other options were necessarily any better. I know Fuentes seems to be the popular choice, but is he really a better candidate than Smart? I believe Smart can come in and do very well recruiting. He still has ties with Saban, played college ball at Georgia, and is probably a more well-known name than Fuentes. Of course, there is still no guarantee...but I believe he can breathe new life into the program. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 8:18:57 AM EST
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Ok, just kill err I mean fire the responsible ref or at least suspend him for 75 years
If this call wouldn't have made a difference in teams being in or out of the playoff then ok nobody gets kil..er fired but this may have been the difference in one team being booted and another team getting in the playoffs I am sure Stanford wishes this dope of a ref didn't lose his eyesight for a second or two and give N.C. a chance to tie the game and possibly win in OT We will never know now what could have happened, I realize this but that offside call wasn't even close to being offside but it's over now all N.C. and Stanford can say now is "What if" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Maybe the refs won enough money to retire then because the ACC crew that blew this call should be fired and never allowed to ref another game Mistakes happen and the game moves a lot faster in real time on the field than it does on TV. Maybe there needs to be replay on penalties that involve a possible possession change and / or score. I don't want to see the game get bogged down with a ton of replays but there needs to be something done about penalities that can change the outcome of a game significantly like a turnover or score. This game and the Miami / Duke game come to mind where a reviewable penalty would have changed the outcome of 1 game for sure and possibly another. One was on a change of possession penalty and the other a possible penalty on a touchdown. Both major game changers. I know how fast the game is and seeing and making calls in real time but on this play, a kickoff, the ref looking straight down the line and the Tarheel players being not even close to the line? no not on this play was the call so close that it could go either way So one team stayed in the playoff and another team lost their shot at getting into the playoff because of the refs fuck up on a play that wasn't even close to being offside I understand they made a huge mistake. That's why I said something needs to be done. What I don't agree with is your form of "capital punishment" Your even wanting to fire the entire crew. People make mistakes. Have you ever made a mistake at work? Did you get fired? Ok, just kill err I mean fire the responsible ref or at least suspend him for 75 years
If this call wouldn't have made a difference in teams being in or out of the playoff then ok nobody gets kil..er fired but this may have been the difference in one team being booted and another team getting in the playoffs I am sure Stanford wishes this dope of a ref didn't lose his eyesight for a second or two and give N.C. a chance to tie the game and possibly win in OT We will never know now what could have happened, I realize this but that offside call wasn't even close to being offside but it's over now all N.C. and Stanford can say now is "What if" I'm not disagreeing. The penalty was HUGE. It could even be said it had National Championship implications. Multiple TV angles and instant replay have created their own monster. These same calls were occurring for decades with no knowledge or repercussions. That's not saying it doesnt need to be fixed, it does but it needs to be only in game changing situations like change of possession and scores. Anything more and the game will become bogged down with replay after replay. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 9:27:36 AM EST
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Any wolverines going to the citrus bowl? Well, hopefully the team shows up...
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Posted: 12/8/2015 9:59:40 AM EST
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Peach Bowl will definitely be a bore, I expect a lot of empty seats • Houston already had trouble putting fans in its stands even with a 12-1 team • Its hard for FSU fans to get excited about this match up • Noon kickoff on NYE 
Tickets on Stubhub have already dropped to $19 It might not have packed seat, but I fully expect UH to give y'all one hell of a game. It wouldn't surprise me at all for them to cover and even win. I love noon kickoffs on NYE. It lets you watch your game and not miss the actual meaningful games later that evening. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 10:00:28 AM EST
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I'm not disagreeing. The penalty was HUGE. It could even be said it had National Championship implications. Multiple TV angles and instant replay have created their own monster. These same calls were occurring for decades with no knowledge or repercussions. That's not saying it doesnt need to be fixed, it does but it needs to be only in game changing situations like change of possession and scores. Anything more and the game will become bogged down with replay after replay. I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 10:37:06 AM EST
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I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not disagreeing. The penalty was HUGE. It could even be said it had National Championship implications. Multiple TV angles and instant replay have created their own monster. These same calls were occurring for decades with no knowledge or repercussions. That's not saying it doesnt need to be fixed, it does but it needs to be only in game changing situations like change of possession and scores. Anything more and the game will become bogged down with replay after replay. I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. Well dam you're taking that loss well. I had you figured for a padded cell and suicide watch right now.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 11:47:20 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think most Georgia fans were more than willing to assume that risk just to get Richt out of Athens. Goff and Donnan were also great recruiters, but it never really translated to on the field results...kind of like we have seen with Richt over the last decade. Do I think Smart is the perfect hire? Probably not the perfect hire, but I think he is pretty close....and I really don't believe the other options were necessarily any better. I know Fuentes seems to be the popular choice, but is he really a better candidate than Smart? I believe Smart can come in and do very well recruiting. He still has ties with Saban, played college ball at Georgia, and is probably a more well-known name than Fuentes. Of course, there is still no guarantee...but I believe he can breathe new life into the program. Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm just saying that y'all may look back on CMR's recruits with envy 3 or so seasons down the road. I think most Georgia fans were more than willing to assume that risk just to get Richt out of Athens. Goff and Donnan were also great recruiters, but it never really translated to on the field results...kind of like we have seen with Richt over the last decade. Do I think Smart is the perfect hire? Probably not the perfect hire, but I think he is pretty close....and I really don't believe the other options were necessarily any better. I know Fuentes seems to be the popular choice, but is he really a better candidate than Smart? I believe Smart can come in and do very well recruiting. He still has ties with Saban, played college ball at Georgia, and is probably a more well-known name than Fuentes. Of course, there is still no guarantee...but I believe he can breathe new life into the program. Here in Athens I'm not running into too many folks that are that upset Richt got fired. Most folks loved him but knew he wasn't doing a great job. I haven't talked to anyone around here that thinks Smart is a bad hire. He was a great recruiter at Bama, I'm not sure why he couldn't be at Georgia. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 11:57:13 AM EST
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IMO Georgia is taking a bit of a risk with the Smart hire. Definitely not saying it's a bad one, just a risky one.
In terms of no head coaching experience, FSU struck gold and got lucky with Fisher. Then a couple years later UF tries the same thing with Muschamp but that fails. Hard to know exactly what you're getting but it is definitely an exciting time after a long run with a coach that had gone stale. I tend to think he'll be successful there but that is a big stage for your first real gig. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 1:21:29 PM EST
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Posted: 12/8/2015 1:42:37 PM EST
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IMO Georgia is taking a bit of a risk with the Smart hire. Definitely not saying it's a bad one, just a risky one. In terms of no head coaching experience, FSU struck gold and got lucky with Fisher. Then a couple years later UF tries the same thing with Muschamp but that fails. Hard to know exactly what you're getting but it is definitely an exciting time after a long run with a coach that had gone stale. I tend to think he'll be successful there but that is a big stage for your first real gig. Every coaching hire comes with a risk. Staying with CMR was a greater risk. For Georgia, hiring Coach Smart was the choice with least amount of risk. The depth of CMR's last few recruiting class was lacking on the O/D lines. Georgia wasn't keeping and developing the number of players needed to stay competitive with the better teams in SEC. Good recruiting classes mean nothing if those are enough of those recruits are starting/playing with your program within 2 years. Monk |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 1:47:17 PM EST
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The Baylor Rule. ouch. http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Big-12-announces-new-non-conference-scheduling-requirement-41853682 Shall we call the "Play No more than one FCS team" the UNC rule? 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 1:53:28 PM EST
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Every coaching hire comes with a risk. Staying with CMR was a greater risk. For Georgia, hiring Coach Smart was the choice with least amount of risk. The depth of CMR's last few recruiting class was lacking on the O/D lines. Georgia wasn't keeping and developing the number of players needed to stay competitive with the better teams in SEC. Good recruiting classes mean nothing if those are enough of those recruits are starting/playing with your program within 2 years. Monk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IMO Georgia is taking a bit of a risk with the Smart hire. Definitely not saying it's a bad one, just a risky one. In terms of no head coaching experience, FSU struck gold and got lucky with Fisher. Then a couple years later UF tries the same thing with Muschamp but that fails. Hard to know exactly what you're getting but it is definitely an exciting time after a long run with a coach that had gone stale. I tend to think he'll be successful there but that is a big stage for your first real gig. Every coaching hire comes with a risk. Staying with CMR was a greater risk. For Georgia, hiring Coach Smart was the choice with least amount of risk. The depth of CMR's last few recruiting class was lacking on the O/D lines. Georgia wasn't keeping and developing the number of players needed to stay competitive with the better teams in SEC. Good recruiting classes mean nothing if those are enough of those recruits are starting/playing with your program within 2 years. Monk Totally agree, any new coach comes with risk and with Georgia specifically, it was definitely time to move on. Hell I think CMR is a good coach and I've always been a fan of his but even Miami is taking a risk hiring him so it really is across the board. I think the pieces are there for Smart to do well in the East so I'm really looking forward to seeing what happens with him. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 1:54:34 PM EST
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Peach Bowl will definitely be a bore, I expect a lot of empty seats • Houston already had trouble putting fans in its stands even with a 12-1 team • Its hard for FSU fans to get excited about this match up • Noon kickoff on NYE
Tickets on Stubhub have already dropped to $19 But but but....Houston is 12-2 against FSU all time..... Yeah, that was from the 60's. This game is a definate "fuck you FSU" from the powers that be. $20 for a top 6 bowl game. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:23:12 PM EST
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Shall we call the "Play No more than one FCS team" the UNC rule?
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The Baylor Rule. ouch. http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Big-12-announces-new-non-conference-scheduling-requirement-41853682 Shall we call the "Play No more than one FCS team" the UNC rule?
Monk We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL. 
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:29:27 PM EST
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We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
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The Baylor Rule. ouch. http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Big-12-announces-new-non-conference-scheduling-requirement-41853682 Shall we call the "Play No more than one FCS team" the UNC rule?
Monk We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
Well you kinda have to include the season opener don't you?
3? Really? Dam.
Don't even consider being ranked anywhere above 15-20 at any time. And that's if your undefeated late in the year. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:35:13 PM EST
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SNIP We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
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That game should be a fun game to watch. Your match ups against the Citadel and James Madison Dukes not so much. At least the ACC has winning record against FCS teams* Monk |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:39:06 PM EST
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That game should be a fun game to watch. Your match ups against the Citadel and James Madison Dukes not so much. At least the ACC has winning record against FCS teams* Monk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SNIP We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
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That game should be a fun game to watch. Your match ups against the Citadel and James Madison Dukes not so much. At least the ACC has winning record against FCS teams* Monk Yeah, already planning for that one. We had a great trip the last time we were down playing LSU, and I'm betting this trip will be no different (other than getting a W over UGA). 
Word around the campfire is we're trying to buy our way out of an FCS game and schedule an even worse FBS team. I hope we can dump the Citadel game and pick up someone local. Stupid, but whatever.... |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:40:59 PM EST
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Well you kinda have to include the season opener don't you?
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Don't even consider being ranked anywhere above 15-20 at any time. And that's if your undefeated late in the year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Baylor Rule. ouch. http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Big-12-announces-new-non-conference-scheduling-requirement-41853682 Shall we call the "Play No more than one FCS team" the UNC rule?
Monk We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
Well you kinda have to include the season opener don't you?
3? Really? Dam.
Don't even consider being ranked anywhere above 15-20 at any time. And that's if your undefeated late in the year. I mean it IS Georgia, so I guess so.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:51:44 PM EST
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SNIP I mean it IS Georgia, so I guess so.
On the bright side losing your first game to Georgia versus South Carolina will help your strength of schedule. Assuming your Heels can beat the other Bulldogs, The Citadel, on your schedule. Monk |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 2:55:20 PM EST
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On the bright side losing your first game to Georgia versus South Carolina will help your strength of schedule. Assuming your Heels can beat the other Bulldogs, The Citadel, on your schedule. Monk Quote HistoryQuoted:
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SNIP I mean it IS Georgia, so I guess so.
On the bright side losing your first game to Georgia versus South Carolina will help your strength of schedule. Assuming your Heels can beat the other Bulldogs, The Citadel, on your schedule. Monk Don't you have a new coach to fire for not winning enough games yet?
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Posted: 12/8/2015 4:52:05 PM EST
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I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not disagreeing. The penalty was HUGE. It could even be said it had National Championship implications. Multiple TV angles and instant replay have created their own monster. These same calls were occurring for decades with no knowledge or repercussions. That's not saying it doesnt need to be fixed, it does but it needs to be only in game changing situations like change of possession and scores. Anything more and the game will become bogged down with replay after replay. I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. Motherfucking this right here. The head of officiating in the SEC is an alumni and has direct and many ties with one of the school in the conference. There have been acouple of statistical analysis done. Across coaching changes, home/away, and over a substantial timeframe. The results being that is should be statistically impossible for certain schools to get as few or as many calls as they get. This has led to several movements/efforts to oust the current SEC officiating head for corruption. Speaking with the many Noles I know at work, apparently it is a very similar situation in the ACC. Officiating needs to be done by a third party entity with zero organizational ties; which is held accountable for shit like the miami-circus pass game or the phantom offside BS with UNC. Yall remember the incident 2(?) years ago, with ASU/Wisconsin? How after their BS call, the refs just walked off the field? Nothing was done about it. It's bullshit and it needs to end. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 4:55:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Baylor Rule. ouch. http://texas.247sports.com/Bolt/Big-12-announces-new-non-conference-scheduling-requirement-41853682 Very much needed. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 6:03:37 PM EST
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TEN GAMES THAT ARE MUST-SEE TV
1. Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic (Alabama vs. Michigan State, Dec. 31 in Arlington, Texas): Alabama is the only team to get invited back to the playoffs, and it’s hoping for a better showing vs. the Big Ten this time around. 2. Capital One Orange Bowl (Clemson vs. Oklahoma, Dec. 31 in Miami Gardens, Fla.): Clemson is No. 1 in the country, and an underdog is this playoff game. This should be a shootout. It’s the best QB vs. QB matchup of all the bowls. 3. Battle Frog Fiesta Bowl (Notre Dame vs. Ohio State, Jan. 1 in Glendale, Ariz.): Both teams thought they were going to be in the playoffs a few weeks ago but came up short. This should be a great game, provided the motivation is there on both sides. 4. Rose Bowl by Northwestern Mutual (Iowa vs. Stanford, Jan. 1 in Pasadena, Calif.): Iowa came so close to completing an unbeaten season, losing the Big Ten title on a late score by Michigan State. The Rose Bowl is a nice consolation prize, and this is a great matchup. 5. Allstate Sugar Bowl (Ole Miss vs. Oklahoma State, Jan. 1 in New Orleans): First team to 50 wins? This could be the highest-scoring game of them all, especially if Chad Kelly goes nuts early for Ole Miss. 6. Russell Athletic Bowl (North Carolina vs. Baylor, Dec. 29 in Orlando): Carolina has had a magical season and they hung tough with No. 1 Clemson. Baylor had title aspirations, but then ran out of quarterbacks, literally. Someone will be healthy by the end of the month. 7. Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl (Florida State vs. Houston, Dec. 31 in Atlanta): FSU’s non-descript season still ends in a New Year’s Six bowl. Tom Herman has done great things in his first year at Houston, so the Noles need to be on upset alert. 8. Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl (BYU vs. Utah, Dec. 19 in Las Vegas, Nev.): The “Holy War” rivalry dates back to 1896 but the annual regular season battle went away last year. It’s great it’s being played again in a bowl game, even in Sin City. 9. Outback Bowl (Tennessee vs. Northwestern, Jan. 1 in Tampa): Tennessee has won five in a row, but the Wildcats are tough. The Vols want to carry a lot of momentum into 2016, so a win here is a must. 10. Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl (Florida vs. Michigan, Jan. 1 in Orlando): It’s a classic matchup of great programs, so let’s hope the Florida offense decides to show up. It’s the first bowl game for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan, and he’s expecting better than the Citrus Bowl in the years ahead. TEN GAMES THAT WILL HOLD YOUR INTEREST 11. Valero Alamo Bowl (TCU vs. Oregon, Jan. 2 in San Antonio, Texas): Two exciting offenses that know how to play well in bowl games. Both expected better this year, but this matchup will provide a quality win for somebody. 12. Miami Beach Bowl (South Florida vs. Western Kentucky, Dec. 21 in Miami): South Florida has been one of the hottest teams in the country the last half of the season and Western has a great offense. This is a great matchup for early in the bowl season. 13. Camping World Independence Bowl (Virginia Tech vs. Tulsa, Dec. 26 in Shreveport, La.): It’s Frank Beamer’s final game as coach of the Hokies, and he’s had an incredible career. Can’t see him going out without a victory. 14. AutoZone Liberty Bowl (Arkansas vs. Kansas State, Jan. 2 in Memphis, Tenn.): The Razorbacks have been a lot of fun the last half of the season and look for QB Brandon Allen to have a nice send-off. 15. Belk Bowl (Mississippi State vs. N.C. State, Dec. 30 in Charlotte, N.C.): This is a nice QB matchup with Dak Prescott and former Florida Gator Jacoby Brissett. College football is going to miss Dak Prescott. He’s been a heck of a player to watch all these years. 16. Franklin American Mortgate Music City Bowl (Texas A&M vs. Louisville, Dec. 30 in Nashville, Tenn.): This will be a good test for A&M to see if they can get their offense going. Louisville (7-5) has won five of its last six, but the Cards do give up some points. 17. National University Holiday Bowl (Wisconsin vs. USC, Dec. 30 in San Diego): Two high-profile programs prefer Pasadena to San Diego, but they’ll take it. Clay Helton has shed the interim label at USC, and this is his first chance for a signature win in a bowl game. 18. TaxSlayer Bowl (Georgia vs. Penn State, Jan. 2 in Jacksonville, Fla.): Penn State coach James Franklin is very familiar with the Bulldogs from his days at Vanderbilt. It’s a time of transition for Georgia, but a win still means a 10-win season, which is always nice. 19. AdvoCare V100 Texas Bowl (LSU vs. Texas Tech, Dec. 29 in Houston): Leonard Fournette is going to have a field day against the weak Texas Tech defense. 20. Birmingham Bowl (Auburn vs. Memphis, Dec. 30 in Birmingham, Ala.): Auburn needs a win to have a winning season, but it’s going to be really tough to get it with Memphis. TEN GAMES THAT HAVE ARE WORTH A PEEK 21. Marmot Boca Raton Bowl (Temple vs. Toledo, Dec. 22 in Boca Raton, Fla.): These two mid-majors made some noise this year. Temple beat Penn State and Memphis and scared the heck out of Notre Dame as an unbeaten. Toledo beat Arkansas in September. 22. New Era Pinstripe Bowl (Indiana vs. Duke, Dec. 26 in New York): Two iconic basketball schools playing a football game in an iconic baseball stadium. Only in bowl season. 23.Foster Farms Bowl (Nebraska vs. UCLA, Dec. 26 in Santa Clara, Calif.): Nebraska is one of those 5-7 teams that’s lucky to be playing in a bowl game and look out for them making the most of it. 24. R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl (Louisiana Tech vs. Arkansas State, Dec. 19 in New Orleans): Former Florida QB Jeff Driskell has had a big year for Louisiana Tech. He’s thrown for 3,575 yards and 24 touchdowns. And the Gators have QB problems. Imagine that. 25. Military Bowl (Pittsburgh vs. Navy, Dec. 28 in Annapolis, Md.): It’s the final game for Keenan Reynolds, who’s had a memorable career as QB for the Midshipmen. He’s sure to get a rousing send-off. 26. Hyundai Sun Bowl (Miami vs. Washington State, Dec. 26 in El Paso, Texas): The last game for the Hurricanes before former Georgia coach Mark Richt starts patrolling the sidelines. Mike Leach has Wazzou playing well. 27. Zaxby’s Heart of Dallas Bowl (Washington vs. Southern Miss, Dec. 26 in Dallas): Southern Miss has made a great comeback after going 0-12 and 1-11 in back-to-back years in 2012 and 2013. To win nine games this year and make a bowl game, now that’s a turnaround. 28. Lockheed Martin Armed Forces Bowl (Air Force vs. California, Dec. 29 in Fort Worth, Texas): One last look at Cal QB Jared Goff before he heads off to the first round of the NFL draft. 29. Quick Lane Bowl (Minnesota vs. Central Michigan, Dec. 28 in Detroit): The Gophers snuck into bowl season with a 5-7 record, so those extra practices are going to come in handy. 30. Motel 6 Cactus Bowl (West Virginia vs. Arizona State, Jan. 2 in Phoenix): Two teams with disappointing seasons try to make up for it one last time. TEN GAMES THAT ARE TEN TOO MANY 31. St. Petersburg Bowl (Marshall vs. Connecticut, Dec. 26 in St. Petersburg, Fla.): UConn hasn’t been bowling since 2010, so they’re sure to enjoy this trip to Tropicana Field. The basketball team won an NCAA title in the same building in 1999. 32. Hawaii Bowl (Cincinnati vs. San Diego State, Dec. 24 in Honolulu): Gunner Kiel has had an interesting college career, with all the flirtations with Notre Dame and LSU and Indiana before finally settling in at Cincinnati. The QB has a big arm and he’s had some big games for the Bearcats. 33. San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl (Boise State vs. Northern Illinois, Dec. 23 in San Diego): The trip to San Diego out of the cold will be nice for both schools. 34. GoDaddy Bowl (Georgia Southern vs. Bowling Green, Dec. 23 in Mobile, Ala.): Georgia Southern is used to playing late in the year from all their FCS playoff runs. Now, they go bowling. 35. Popeyes Bahamas Bowl (Middle Tennessee vs. Western Michigan, Dec. 24 in Nassau, Bahamas): Who cares about X’s and the O’s. It’s the Bahamas! 36. Gilman New Mexico Bowl (Arizona vs. New Mexico, Dec. 19 in Albuquerque, N.M): Rich Rodriguez was being looked at to coach elsewhere, but he’s saying he wants to stick around Arizona. Winning a bowl game might be a spark. 37. Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl (Nevada vs. Colorado State, Dec. 29 in Tucson, Ariz.): Jim McElwain’s old school, Colorado State, keeps winning even after he’s gone. 38. Raycom Media Camellia Bowl (Ohio vs. Appalachian State, Dec. 19 in Montgomery, Ala.): App State, like Georgia Southern, is used to playoff runs this time of year. Welcome to bowl season. 39. Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (Akron vs. Utah State, Dec. 22 in Boise, Idaho): In the cold. On the blue turf. No big story lines. 40. AutoNation Cure Bowl (Georgia State vs. San Jose State, Dec. 19 in Orlando): Georgia State became eligible and San Jose State got a pass after going 5-7 and is playing in a game 2,848 miles from home. Will there be more than 500 San Jose fans there? |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:03:24 PM EST
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Monk We play three next year if you include the season opener in ATL.
Well you kinda have to include the season opener don't you?
3? Really? Dam.
Don't even consider being ranked anywhere above 15-20 at any time. And that's if your undefeated late in the year. I mean it IS Georgia, so I guess so.
Oh shit that's even worse. Don't count on even being in the Top 25 then.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:06:25 PM EST
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South Carolina: We'll be competing for the SEC this next season
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:14:33 PM EST
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Alright Michigan fans, here's the deal.
Gators win, this is your avatar for a month 
Michigan wins, this will be my avatar for a month. 
I wont be a dick about it either. Just change it and roll. I know I used the opportunity last year to act like a Seminole when I had the Seminole avatar... but common, who wouldnt want to poke at the Noles abit.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:28:32 PM EST
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IMO Georgia is taking a bit of a risk with the Smart hire. Definitely not saying it's a bad one, just a risky one. In terms of no head coaching experience, FSU struck gold and got lucky with Fisher. Then a couple years later UF tries the same thing with Muschamp but that fails. Hard to know exactly what you're getting but it is definitely an exciting time after a long run with a coach that had gone stale. I tend to think he'll be successful there but that is a big stage for your first real gig. Uga made the best hire they could have. Saban, Meyer, and Jimbo ain't coming, and he's the next best thing imo. While I'm being truthful, he went to the only school I didn't want him to go to. It's the only school we prob can't pull him from in a few years when the master retires. It's home to him. I'm still holding out that the administration there will screw it up enough that he might. 
He is a boss in Georgia recruiting, that won't be a problem. My honest opinion of Richt....his teams are soft. He had elite talent, a solid balanced offense (when he had a decent qb), and seemed to run a relatively clean program. They just weren't mean. Kirby's team will be mean. I can guarantee you there won't be any faggy team celebrations that draw a penalty either. I like Mac at uf, but I'm a defensive guy, I wanted smart in 2040 when saban retires.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:32:15 PM EST
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:35:02 PM EST
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Motherfucking this right here. The head of officiating in the SEC is an alumni and has direct and many ties with one of the school in the conference. There have been acouple of statistical analysis done. Across coaching changes, home/away, and over a substantial timeframe. The results being that is should be statistically impossible for certain schools to get as few or as many calls as they get. This has led to several movements/efforts to oust the current SEC officiating head for corruption. Speaking with the many Noles I know at work, apparently it is a very similar situation in the ACC. Officiating needs to be done by a third party entity with zero organizational ties; which is held accountable for shit like the miami-circus pass game or the phantom offside BS with UNC. Yall remember the incident 2(?) years ago, with ASU/Wisconsin? How after their BS call, the refs just walked off the field? Nothing was done about it. It's bullshit and it needs to end. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not disagreeing. The penalty was HUGE. It could even be said it had National Championship implications. Multiple TV angles and instant replay have created their own monster. These same calls were occurring for decades with no knowledge or repercussions. That's not saying it doesnt need to be fixed, it does but it needs to be only in game changing situations like change of possession and scores. Anything more and the game will become bogged down with replay after replay. I agree 100%. Games are running absurdly long as it is. What does and MUST be addressed is the conference offices (ok, "office"....I'm looking at you, ACC) having one set of rules for some teams and a different set of rules for another. Look at the ACC's response to the dook-Miami fiasco versus their response to this blown call. They were quick to come out with a tortured response to defend a call that was different from what was called on the field when Switzer was flagged for the ridiculous "invalid fair catch signal" that simply wasn't. They suspended Shak Rashad a couple of years ago after running into a dook player when coming onto the field, but are silent after Dadi Nicolas hits Ron Cherry. What everyone saw Saturday is exactly the shit that I've seen for five years now, and it's not exclusive to UNC. ACC officiating is atrocious, and at best, the league office simply doesn't care and at worst, actually condones it. I'm fine with what went down Saturday. If we had a QB that could throw it in the ocean we're not in that position to begin with. We didn't, and we were, so it's our fault for not taking care of business earlier. Clemson is a damn good team and that blown call shouldn't take ANYTHING away from their win. They whipped our ass. Motherfucking this right here. The head of officiating in the SEC is an alumni and has direct and many ties with one of the school in the conference. There have been acouple of statistical analysis done. Across coaching changes, home/away, and over a substantial timeframe. The results being that is should be statistically impossible for certain schools to get as few or as many calls as they get. This has led to several movements/efforts to oust the current SEC officiating head for corruption. Speaking with the many Noles I know at work, apparently it is a very similar situation in the ACC. Officiating needs to be done by a third party entity with zero organizational ties; which is held accountable for shit like the miami-circus pass game or the phantom offside BS with UNC. Yall remember the incident 2(?) years ago, with ASU/Wisconsin? How after their BS call, the refs just walked off the field? Nothing was done about it. It's bullshit and it needs to end. That's the most barner bullshit I've ever read. You sure you pull for the right team? Disclaimer: bamaflinger doesn't give a shit where you are from, or what shade of brown your balls are.
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:46:47 PM EST
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That's the most barner bullshit I've ever read. You sure you pull for the right team? Disclaimer: bamaflinger doesn't give a shit where you are from, or what shade of brown your balls are. So you dont think officiating should be performed by an impartial third party. Got it. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 7:49:24 PM EST
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That's the most barner bullshit I've ever read. You sure you pull for the right team? Disclaimer: bamaflinger doesn't give a shit where you are from, or what shade of brown your balls are. So you dont think officiating should be performed by an impartial third party. Got it. Muschampveinyface.gif
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Posted: 12/8/2015 8:12:43 PM EST
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Here is just one, of but many studies, that back up what I have said. Link
It's a macro level analysis of population trend corollaries, cross correlated with external population trend corollaries. Using a singular bias indicator (no need for PCA decomposition if using one comparator) shows clear biasing trends within and external to the population sets. Yeah... that's some real barner shit. Overwhelming empirical evidence just means I hate baby jesus and kick puppies. |
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Posted: 12/8/2015 8:25:24 PM EST
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Posted: 12/8/2015 8:44:20 PM EST
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Let's be honest it's going to be a real shitshow.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:06:22 AM EST
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I skipped a few pages, is there an official bowl pickem going yet?
If not I can start one. I think the winner should get a football icon until the next one. Make it happen Site Staff! |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:15:59 AM EST
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No QB, no problem! https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/23/63/ed/2363ed70694ade540af6a590d8271c0f.jpg Let's be honest it's going to be a real shitshow. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:25:40 AM EST
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HoustonHusker Pick'em is a go.
I propose an avatar bet, where all who enter sport the winner's team avatar for one month after the contest is concluded. Please set your entry name on espn.com to match your screen name here to make things easy (your espn account can be different, but you can name your entry after the user name you use here). The pick'em will be confidence point based, so don't forget to set that. It will also be locked, so have your picks set up before the first game of the bowl season (I think that's like 10 days out). Group is: HoustonHusker Pick'em Password: 87 http://games.espn.go.com/college-bowl-mania/2015/en/group?groupID=98899 |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:45:33 AM EST
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I've never done one before. How does it work?
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:01:47 AM EST
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I've never done one before. How does it work? You pick the team that you expect to win in each matchup and rate them based on your "confidence" in the pick. Basically you are betting points on each matchup, so you want to bet more points on the ones you are more confident about. 1 point will be your least confident pick, and 42 will be your most confident pick. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:04:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HoustonHusker Pick'em is a go. I propose an avatar bet, where all who enter sport the winner's team avatar for one month after the contest is concluded. Please set your entry name on espn.com to match your screen name here to make things easy (your espn account can be different, but you can name your entry after the user name you use here). The pick'em will be confidence point based, so don't forget to set that. It will also be locked, so have your picks set up before the first game of the bowl season (I think that's like 10 days out). Group is: HoustonHusker Pick'em Password: 87 http://games.espn.go.com/college-bowl-mania/2015/en/group?groupID=98899 |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 12:29:04 PM EST
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Which one of you signed up as "espn76593858"?
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Posted: 12/9/2015 12:39:13 PM EST
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Posted: 12/9/2015 12:58:44 PM EST
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As was shared in the press box following the ACC Football Championship Game, by NCAA rule, offside on a kickoff is not a reviewable play.
It was also shared that offside on an onside kickoff is officiated differently than offside on a regular kickoff. As it relates to an onside kick, the 35-yard line is treated as a plane, in the same way the goal line is treated as a plane. If any part of a player on the kicking team breaks that plane prior to the ball being kicked, it is offside. With a regular kickoff, offside is not called unless a player has a foot down beyond the 35 yard line when the ball is kicked. We also confirmed that mechanically, the officials were in the correct position and from that position, the official saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked. Our office continues to strive to be the best, and that includes the officiating programs. We appreciate your support of the ACC and our Football Championship Game. Sincerely, Amy AMY YAKOLA Senior Associate Commissioner & Chief of External Affairs [email protected] 
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Posted: 12/9/2015 1:19:35 PM EST
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As was shared in the press box following the ACC Football Championship Game, by NCAA rule, offside on a kickoff is not a reviewable play.
It was also shared that offside on an onside kickoff is officiated differently than offside on a regular kickoff. As it relates to an onside kick, the 35-yard line is treated as a plane, in the same way the goal line is treated as a plane. If any part of a player on the kicking team breaks that plane prior to the ball being kicked, it is offside. With a regular kickoff, offside is not called unless a player has a foot down beyond the 35 yard line when the ball is kicked. We also confirmed that mechanically, the officials were in the correct position and from that position, the official saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked. Our office continues to strive to be the best, and that includes the officiating programs. We appreciate your support of the ACC and our Football Championship Game. Sincerely, Amy AMY YAKOLA Senior Associate Commissioner & Chief of External Affairs [email protected]
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Posted: 12/9/2015 1:22:08 PM EST
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As was shared in the press box following the ACC Football Championship Game, by NCAA rule, offside on a kickoff is not a reviewable play.
It was also shared that offside on an onside kickoff is officiated differently than offside on a regular kickoff. As it relates to an onside kick, the 35-yard line is treated as a plane, in the same way the goal line is treated as a plane. If any part of a player on the kicking team breaks that plane prior to the ball being kicked, it is offside. With a regular kickoff, offside is not called unless a player has a foot down beyond the 35 yard line when the ball is kicked. We also confirmed that mechanically, the officials were in the correct position and from that position, the official saw a member of the kicking team break the plane before the ball was kicked. Our office continues to strive to be the best, and that includes the officiating programs. We appreciate your support of the ACC and our Football Championship Game. Sincerely, Amy AMY YAKOLA Senior Associate Commissioner & Chief of External Affairs [email protected]
ACC officiating has and continues to be garbage. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 2:24:56 PM EST
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Sonny Cumbie turned down $4 million as the head OC at UT.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 4:41:47 PM EST
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Posted: 12/9/2015 4:48:01 PM EST
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Sonny Cumbie turned down $4 million as the head OC at UT.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/09/sonny-cumbie-turns-down-texas-oc-job-will-remain-at-tcu/ Understandable not wanting what could be a 1 year job. TCU also has a vey good chance to be a Playoff contender next year with the amount of talent they have returning. |
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