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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:48:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
???? I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? Texas Tech is an underdog worth rooting for. Not sure how underdog we are in the new Big 12. Lots of noise about utahs attitude towards Big 12 and byu stuff but I visit Utah for work regularly so taking in a game out there sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I can hit rhe natural history museum at UU again dinosaurs are cool |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:59:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas Tech is an underdog worth rooting for. Not sure how underdog we are in the new Big 12. Lots of noise about utahs attitude towards Big 12 and byu stuff but I visit Utah for work regularly so taking in a game out there sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I can hit rhe natural history museum at UU again dinosaurs are cool Be sure to check out the PAC12 display there. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:59:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be sure to check out the PAC12 display there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Texas Tech is an underdog worth rooting for. Not sure how underdog we are in the new Big 12. Lots of noise about utahs attitude towards Big 12 and byu stuff but I visit Utah for work regularly so taking in a game out there sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I can hit rhe natural history museum at UU again dinosaurs are cool Be sure to check out the PAC12 display there. oof.gif |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 9:04:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
???? I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? TCU. maybe less so since they did so well last year, but i've pulled for them ever since seeing them get screwed over in favor of baylor when the SWC died and Big12 was formed. they got kicked to lesser conference status, played well, got back into P5. underdog story. F baylor |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 9:15:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be sure to check out the PAC12 display there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Texas Tech is an underdog worth rooting for. Not sure how underdog we are in the new Big 12. Lots of noise about utahs attitude towards Big 12 and byu stuff but I visit Utah for work regularly so taking in a game out there sounds like a lot of fun. Maybe I can hit rhe natural history museum at UU again dinosaurs are cool Be sure to check out the PAC12 display there. 
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Posted: 8/5/2023 9:17:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TCU. maybe less so since they did so well last year, but i've pulled for them ever since seeing them get screwed over in favor of baylor when the SWC died and Big12 was formed. they got kicked to lesser conference status, played well, got back into P5. underdog story. F baylor Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
???? I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? TCU. maybe less so since they did so well last year, but i've pulled for them ever since seeing them get screwed over in favor of baylor when the SWC died and Big12 was formed. they got kicked to lesser conference status, played well, got back into P5. underdog story. F baylor Tcu ain't no prize either. It ain't really a school for locals. Baylor can fuck right off too.  I think there might be once tcu fan/alumni I've ever seen in here. And I've only met a couple. Ft worth = Texas Tech alumni |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 11:01:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound?  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 11:24:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I agree. Also sad is making changes to a historic conference in such a manner that old rivalries become unrecognizable. We go from playing LSU (56), Ole Miss (46) & Miss St (95) yearly to playing them occasionally. At least we will now get to play some of our other rivals occasionally ... Tennessee (54) & Florida (84). I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. And I hate this for all the non-football sports this is affecting. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. 
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Posted: 8/5/2023 11:28:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree. Also sad is making changes to a historic conference in such a manner that old rivalries become unrecognizable. We go from playing LSU (56), Ole Miss (46) & Miss St (95) yearly to playing them occasionally. At least we will now get to play some of our other rivals occasionally ... Tennessee (54) & Florida (84). I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. +1. Many of the top college players nowadays would get laughed at if they applied to colleges without athletic talent. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:17:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TCU. maybe less so since they did so well last year, but i've pulled for them ever since seeing them get screwed over in favor of baylor when the SWC died and Big12 was formed. they got kicked to lesser conference status, played well, got back into P5. underdog story. F baylor Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
???? I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? TCU. maybe less so since they did so well last year, but i've pulled for them ever since seeing them get screwed over in favor of baylor when the SWC died and Big12 was formed. they got kicked to lesser conference status, played well, got back into P5. underdog story. F baylor Hard feelings over their shenanigans when A&M was headed to the SEC? |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:18:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Duke......  NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY pulls for Doooke (Fuck Dooke) They and Minnesota are on the official ban list. Monk |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:18:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. And I hate this for all the non-football sports this is affecting. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. You are spot on. I’d rather see kids who wanted to attend the school and suck at football on the field than a bunch of mercenaries who dont give a shit where they are or anything beyond checking the box to go to the NFL. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. And I hate this for all the non-football sports this is affecting. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I agree. Also sad is making changes to a historic conference in such a manner that old rivalries become unrecognizable. We go from playing LSU (56), Ole Miss (46) & Miss St (95) yearly to playing them occasionally. At least we will now get to play some of our other rivals occasionally ... Tennessee (54) & Florida (84). I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. And I hate this for all the non-football sports this is affecting. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. Boomers are the wisest folks on this board and forum so that’s a good thing. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:28:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tech's mascot has guns so everyone here not already tied to a B12 school should root for them. The hand sign is also a gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/A293341D-4C18-416F-9327-ED07CD7244E3_jpe-2908982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/9D14A4A8-A6ED-408D-8262-9B382A62B4EE_jpe-2908985.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted:
I need a couple of B12 team to root for. How does Utah and TT sound? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/A293341D-4C18-416F-9327-ED07CD7244E3_jpe-2908982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/9D14A4A8-A6ED-408D-8262-9B382A62B4EE_jpe-2908985.JPG Guns Up > Pistols firing They shoot blanks at games too |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 12:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: +1. Many of the top college players nowadays would get laughed at if they applied to colleges without athletic talent. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I agree. Also sad is making changes to a historic conference in such a manner that old rivalries become unrecognizable. We go from playing LSU (56), Ole Miss (46) & Miss St (95) yearly to playing them occasionally. At least we will now get to play some of our other rivals occasionally ... Tennessee (54) & Florida (84). I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. +1. Many of the top college players nowadays would get laughed at if they applied to colleges without athletic talent. thats been true since at least the 80s. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 1:38:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tech's mascot has guns so everyone here not already tied to a B12 school should root for them. The hand sign is also a gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/A293341D-4C18-416F-9327-ED07CD7244E3_jpe-2908982.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/86713/9D14A4A8-A6ED-408D-8262-9B382A62B4EE_jpe-2908985.JPG My niece starts her freshman year at Texas Tech this fall. I feel honor bound to cheer for them l. #GunsUp My nephew will be a junior at TAMU. I guess I should pull for them in the West as well. Monk |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 2:59:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 3:57:29 PM EDT
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What has WV done to deserve "Big Brother" status?? |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 3:58:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What has WV done to deserve "Big Brother" status?? Not sucked |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 3:59:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sucked Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What has WV done to deserve "Big Brother" status?? Not sucked Well Arizona has sucked enough for every other team in that "division" Lol |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not sucked You mean like not completely sucked?? Because they have certainly kinda-sorta sucked a lot lately. Id swap them with K-state. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:02:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean like not completely sucked?? Because they have certainly kinda-sorta sucked a lot lately. Id swap them with K-state. K State blew their load last year and need to wait another 5 before having good team. They are bargain Iowa |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:13:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:27:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:28:55 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62443/F2txmlfWAAAVF4D_jpeg-2909360.JPG 100mil more then the next school? 
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Posted: 8/5/2023 4:30:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 100mil more then the next school? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62443/F2txmlfWAAAVF4D_jpeg-2909360.JPG 100mil more then the next school? Cal and SDSU are in trouble |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:00:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:33:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:34:07 PM EDT
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Relegation would have worked in the old BCS conferences |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:38:38 PM EDT
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Quote History"G5 needs to plan to not be invited to the new CFP format in a few years when it gets redone. Now's a good time to start working on your own championship structure. We suggest starting here: https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2020-01-11/fcs-championship-everything-you-need-know#:~:text=The%20tournament%20progresses%20in%20a%20single-elimination%20bracket.%20Of,that%20culminate%20with%20a%20championship%20in%20Frisco%2C%20TX" Signed, SEC, Big10, Big12* *some ACC member institutions will be going with you |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:41:41 PM EDT
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https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62443/F2txmlfWAAAVF4D_jpeg-2909360.JPG Good. Fuck Cal. God damn commies. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck Cal. God damn commies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62443/F2txmlfWAAAVF4D_jpeg-2909360.JPG Good. Fuck Cal. God damn commies.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 6:43:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good. Fuck Cal. God damn commies. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/62443/F2txmlfWAAAVF4D_jpeg-2909360.JPG Good. Fuck Cal. God damn commies. Feds will bail them out |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 7:12:10 PM EDT
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 Attached FileDon’t know how to link twitter, so a screenshot. Don’t know if this is remotely true. If it has legs to it, possible split of the ACC between SEC and the BIG, while the Big12 gets the leftovers. 
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Posted: 8/5/2023 7:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/412301/IMG_3043_png-2909548.JPG Don’t know how to link twitter, so a screenshot. Don’t know if this is remotely true. If it has legs to it, possible split of the ACC between SEC and the BIG, while the Big12 gets the leftovers. Power 3 might include most of power 5 |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 7:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Power 3 might include most of power 5 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/412301/IMG_3043_png-2909548.JPG Don't know how to link twitter, so a screenshot. Don't know if this is remotely true. If it has legs to it, possible split of the ACC between SEC and the BIG, while the Big12 gets the leftovers. Power 3 might include most of power 5 |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 7:48:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At this point, just put them all together and set up division of North, South, and Other. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/412301/IMG_3043_png-2909548.JPG Don't know how to link twitter, so a screenshot. Don't know if this is remotely true. If it has legs to it, possible split of the ACC between SEC and the BIG, while the Big12 gets the leftovers. Power 3 might include most of power 5 Yankees vs everyone else |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:00:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What has WV done to deserve "Big Brother" status?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted:
What has WV done to deserve "Big Brother" status?? They burn a mean couch and know how to party |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:42:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven’t really heard anyone anywhere actually celebrating what’s happened. I just hope someone (NCAA?) steps up and formulates a plan for the other sports to stay more regionalized. Football can afford this for the most part. But the other sports cannot. The real tragedy would be seeing schools losing other sports over this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I thought the Pac 12 was full of weak teams? How will they do well in a Power 3 conference? The last year of Pac-12 football could be one of the most exciting competitive seasons in any conference ever. The top half of the conference is just loaded for bear. I’m absolutely broken hearted over the demise of the conference. It’s as big of a blot on the sport as has ever happened. The next era of CFB is just not going to be the same. The death of the only major league west of the Rockies should not be celebrated. I haven’t really heard anyone anywhere actually celebrating what’s happened. I just hope someone (NCAA?) steps up and formulates a plan for the other sports to stay more regionalized. Football can afford this for the most part. But the other sports cannot. The real tragedy would be seeing schools losing other sports over this. The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 8:51:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I thought the Pac 12 was full of weak teams? How will they do well in a Power 3 conference? The last year of Pac-12 football could be one of the most exciting competitive seasons in any conference ever. The top half of the conference is just loaded for bear. I’m absolutely broken hearted over the demise of the conference. It’s as big of a blot on the sport as has ever happened. The next era of CFB is just not going to be the same. The death of the only major league west of the Rockies should not be celebrated. I haven’t really heard anyone anywhere actually celebrating what’s happened. I just hope someone (NCAA?) steps up and formulates a plan for the other sports to stay more regionalized. Football can afford this for the most part. But the other sports cannot. The real tragedy would be seeing schools losing other sports over this. The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. Pretty much.....if the other sports had to exist on their own fundraising efforts they would fail miserably |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:11:10 PM EDT
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I feel bad for the non football athletes at UW, UO, USC, and UCLA.
Their plans are wrecked.  Attached FileMonk |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel bad for the non football athletes at UW, UO, USC, and UCLA. Their plans are wrecked. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/20230805_220627_jpg-2909812.JPG Monk Meh. I loved going to other campuses all over the place. A 4hr bus ride to somewhere "close" is now a 3 hr flight to somewhere far away. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:25:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thats been true since at least the 80s. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I agree. Also sad is making changes to a historic conference in such a manner that old rivalries become unrecognizable. We go from playing LSU (56), Ole Miss (46) & Miss St (95) yearly to playing them occasionally. At least we will now get to play some of our other rivals occasionally ... Tennessee (54) & Florida (84). I’m with you. As much as it would hurt my team’s performance, I am thinking I’d prefer to allow minor league/NFL draft out of high school and have college teams trend truly back to college-attending athletes. I hate how everything has become flashy and money focused vs traditional rivalries between schools. I’m not a fan of NFL football for these reasons, and I’m worried that the game is becoming less about college and more about being a minor league. I’m too young to be talking like a boomer. +1. Many of the top college players nowadays would get laughed at if they applied to colleges without athletic talent. thats been true since at least the 80s. No doubt. Gotten progressively worse as time’s gone on. |
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Posted: 8/5/2023 10:45:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. I loved going to other campuses all over the place. A 4hr bus ride to somewhere "close" is now a 3 hr flight to somewhere far away. But did you have to travel 5+ hours to visit Rutgers, NJ in January. Monk |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 1:00:31 AM EDT
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Anyone else think this round of realignment will end in congressional hearings? Cal and Stanford have a lot of powerful alumni that are getting calls about being left out in the cold.
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Posted: 8/6/2023 5:17:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I thought the Pac 12 was full of weak teams? How will they do well in a Power 3 conference? The last year of Pac-12 football could be one of the most exciting competitive seasons in any conference ever. The top half of the conference is just loaded for bear. I’m absolutely broken hearted over the demise of the conference. It’s as big of a blot on the sport as has ever happened. The next era of CFB is just not going to be the same. The death of the only major league west of the Rockies should not be celebrated. I haven’t really heard anyone anywhere actually celebrating what’s happened. I just hope someone (NCAA?) steps up and formulates a plan for the other sports to stay more regionalized. Football can afford this for the most part. But the other sports cannot. The real tragedy would be seeing schools losing other sports over this. The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. I know that but I’m not sure that’s always the case. That’s why I’ve always been hesitant about the major programs cutting the cupcake games out. Those games fund almost the complete athletic budget for some small schools. And I’m not sure it’s always the case 100% of the time. I think LSU football announced a few years ago they were keeping their football money separated. I’m sure that’s rare though. Maybe I’m wrong here also? The biggest question is how many of these schools make enough money thru football to cover the increased expenses? Take UCF for example. While their revenue increased going to the Big12, their expenses increased dramatically also. Will the increase in revenue cover the increase for ALL of the sports? Or will the football team use up most of that for increased travel expenses, facility upgrades and the volleyball team eventually get cut because it’s expenses increased dramatically also (without a revenue increase) and are now creating a deficit? |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 5:21:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. I loved going to other campuses all over the place. A 4hr bus ride to somewhere "close" is now a 3 hr flight to somewhere far away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I feel bad for the non football athletes at UW, UO, USC, and UCLA. Their plans are wrecked. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/58532/20230805_220627_jpg-2909812.JPG Monk Meh. I loved going to other campuses all over the place. A 4hr bus ride to somewhere "close" is now a 3 hr flight to somewhere far away. Concern is; can those other sports afford it? Will football be able and willing to pay for those increases? |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 5:22:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else think this round of realignment will end in congressional hearings? Cal and Stanford have a lot of powerful alumni that are getting calls about being left out in the cold. That’s all we need is the federal government thinking they can fix things. They screw up everything they touch. |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 8:46:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know that but I’m not sure that’s always the case. That’s why I’ve always been hesitant about the major programs cutting the cupcake games out. Those games fund almost the complete athletic budget for some small schools. And I’m not sure it’s always the case 100% of the time. I think LSU football announced a few years ago they were keeping their football money separated. I’m sure that’s rare though. Maybe I’m wrong here also? The biggest question is how many of these schools make enough money thru football to cover the increased expenses? Take UCF for example. While their revenue increased going to the Big12, their expenses increased dramatically also. Will the increase in revenue cover the increase for ALL of the sports? Or will the football team use up most of that for increased travel expenses, facility upgrades and the volleyball team eventually get cut because it’s expenses increased dramatically also (without a revenue increase) and are now creating a deficit? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I thought the Pac 12 was full of weak teams? How will they do well in a Power 3 conference? The last year of Pac-12 football could be one of the most exciting competitive seasons in any conference ever. The top half of the conference is just loaded for bear. I’m absolutely broken hearted over the demise of the conference. It’s as big of a blot on the sport as has ever happened. The next era of CFB is just not going to be the same. The death of the only major league west of the Rockies should not be celebrated. I haven’t really heard anyone anywhere actually celebrating what’s happened. I just hope someone (NCAA?) steps up and formulates a plan for the other sports to stay more regionalized. Football can afford this for the most part. But the other sports cannot. The real tragedy would be seeing schools losing other sports over this. The $$ football generates is WHY this is happening. It funds EVERYTHING else. I know that but I’m not sure that’s always the case. That’s why I’ve always been hesitant about the major programs cutting the cupcake games out. Those games fund almost the complete athletic budget for some small schools. And I’m not sure it’s always the case 100% of the time. I think LSU football announced a few years ago they were keeping their football money separated. I’m sure that’s rare though. Maybe I’m wrong here also? The biggest question is how many of these schools make enough money thru football to cover the increased expenses? Take UCF for example. While their revenue increased going to the Big12, their expenses increased dramatically also. Will the increase in revenue cover the increase for ALL of the sports? Or will the football team use up most of that for increased travel expenses, facility upgrades and the volleyball team eventually get cut because it’s expenses increased dramatically also (without a revenue increase) and are now creating a deficit? Guess what? There weren’t very many collegiate athletic departments nation wide operating with a surplus. UCF debt services around $7MM/year already with a yearly income of around $9MM/year from their current conference. (Per an article on LinkedIn) https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/chasing-athletics-success-backs-ucf-students-costs-scott-hirko-ph-d- The new BigXii contract was supposed to be $380 MM/season (it may have increased, I’m not sure). Split evenly 16 ways (which according to this thread the former G5 teams apparently won’t get, clearly Texas’ fault), that’s $24MM/team. https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34910144/big-12-nears-six-year-228b-tv-extension-deal-espn-fox |
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Posted: 8/6/2023 9:18:44 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else think this round of realignment will end in congressional hearings? Cal and Stanford have a lot of powerful alumni that are getting calls about being left out in the cold. It kept Baylor from being left out of Big 12 back in 96, not sure what Feds could do without giving them a ton of even more unnecessary power |
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