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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:28:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They're not even hiding it. They're shoving our faces in it. Making an example out of Trump to warn off anyone else. Ffs Hillary is fundraising off this. It's full on banana republic. The people who hate Trump will live in the shadow of the castle too, with everyone else, if the democrats destroy the country. They won't be spared. As I like to say about the useful idiots, they won't be sitting in coffee shops all day writing bad socialist poetry once we're under communism. They are going to be with everyone else in the lithium mines. Won't they be surprised. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, it was. Just one of the many times in this thread he was dancing on the COC 6 line, but I just chuckled and thought "your real estate practice can't afford my hourly rate." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe as a lawyer, you should have looked at what they actually asked for? So you think that "including but not limited to" is basically an inconsequential boilerplate thing ? Based upon what I've read from you, you were probably a horse with blinders if you practiced law, and I hope for the publics sake that you were never a prosecutor. You certainly have a problem distinguishing truth from fiction. Oh, and BTW: I don't think your snotty paralegal comment earlier in this thread was aimed at me, but Mariner82. I went back through the whole thread to try and find what you were talking about. It wouldn't surprise me if you got those facts mixed up also. Yes, it was. Just one of the many times in this thread he was dancing on the COC 6 line, but I just chuckled and thought "your real estate practice can't afford my hourly rate." I saw someone say pretty much the same thing to him yesterday. He throws little childish jabs, and then bitches if you return the favor. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:34:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you read that post I added an apology... I do truly try and keep things civil and engage in insults only after they are directed at me. That's just an allegation by JW, no? They do not have the authority to designate security classifications. I have not read the entire case and perhaps missed something, but I would be surprised if it was not noted, Or, that the National Archives would not have asserted dominion over classified documents, which they did not. The case by JW was trying to get the National Archives to include those documents under their purview and take custody of them. A pretty long stretch in my view. As I said earlier and I will again make it clear that I am no clinton voter/defender But I will admit I thought his impeachment was just as wastefull as Trumps  |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:36:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:37:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That the Clinton tapes contained classified material? I haven't dug extensively (just an hour or so), but no one was calling bullshit that I've seen until they decided that the same standards don't apply to orange man. Based upon recent circumstances, it doesn't seem like they care at all until now. https://nypost.com/2023/01/12/wh-admits-more-classified-docs-found-in-bidens-delaware-garage/ Did they not know? JW argued that they were Presidential Records. If you are saying that you didn't mean to imply that the sock drawer tapes were just personal, and you were just quoting someone else who said it, then I apologize. Fair enough and we are now even. And yes, I was not taking a personal position on whether the tapes were personal or not, just summarizing the facts of the case, the arguments and judicial opinion. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:53:12 PM EDT
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 Trump Arrives at Hotel Ahead of Arraignment, Supporters Cheer and Confront Protester |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:55:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not exactly. Yes, our legal doctrine grants great authority to a sitting president. A sitting president has "virtually complete control" over his records during his time in office and enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents: "However even a sitting President must notify the NARA before disposing of records ... neither the Archivist nor Congress has the authority to veto the President's disposal decision." Please show me where that notification occurred. In any event, Trump is no longer president and that presidential authority has vanished. <snip> Also the PRA is pretty poorly written if the goal was to for NARA to keep everything. Even after such notification, the Archivist is under no obligation to actually take any Presidential Record, even if the President considers them to be crucial. That's one of the many "Mays." |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:59:05 PM EDT
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Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again.
Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:03:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. Which ones were charged before he left office? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:03:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYes, it was. Just one of the many times in this thread he was dancing on the COC 6 line, but I just chuckled and thought "your real estate practice can't afford my hourly rate." Your position is that it’s ok for you to throw insults but when they are returned in kind, it’s out of line? Maybe reading what you write is not your strength? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please show me where disposal occurred. The way I understand DOJ's argument, they're complaining Trump retained the documents. Just like every single President since 1787 has done. Except Lincoln, McKinley, FDR, and Kennedy, since they left office feet first. Also the PRA is pretty poorly written if the goal was to for NARA to keep everything. Even after such notification, the Archivist is under no obligation to actually take any Presidential Record, even if the President considers them to be crucial. That's one of the many "Mays." Yes, much legislation is written poorly. I was not suggesting he destroyed those documents. There has been no mention of their destruction of which I am aware Dispose can mean more than just destroy. If you have money at your disposal, you are not destroying that money. I may be mistaken, but I believe its meaning here was closer to a President deciding what the documents ultimate disposition would be. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:19:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:35:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, much legislation is written poorly. I was not suggesting he destroyed those documents. There has been no mention of their destruction of which I am aware Dispose can mean more than just destroy. If you have money at your disposal, you are not destroying that money. I may be mistaken, but I believe its meaning here was closer to a President deciding what the documents ultimate disposition would be. To me, that makes the entire PRA toothless and pointless, just an exercise in administrivia. Frankly not worth the brain cells so many people are devoting to it. But OTOH, I suppose it provides a good living to a few hundred lawyers, and hours of entertainment to us. I think the moral of the story is that The People should be a whole lot more picky about who we put in that chair, because the powers and privileges that go with it extend much further than anyone realizes. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:36:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. This isn’t about Trump no matter how obsessed you are with him. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 8:46:54 PM EDT
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Newmax was talking about current polls. Trump takes a double lead over DeSantis, now at 61%. Trump is polling higher with young conservatives than he did in 2016.
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:07:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes it addresses personal documents so it is easily distinguished... this sir is a case of first impression and if the facts are as alleged the JW case is actually irrelevant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Except the JW case is the only legal case that is even relevant in this context and is an apples to apples comparison due to the fact that both revolve around the authority of the President to designate and take materials with him when he leaves office. Yes it addresses personal documents so it is easily distinguished... this sir is a case of first impression and if the facts are as alleged the JW case is actually irrelevant. The case doesn't directly address personal documents past determining who gets to say whether a document is personal or not. JW argued that tapes were Presidential Records, subject to being turned over to NARA. NARA said that since the tapes were in the possession of Clinton, NARA assumed the tapes were personal documents and didn't need to be turned over to NARA. The court said the President, and only the President, determines if the material is a Presidential Record subject to being turned over to NARA, or if the material is personal and not subject to being turned over. At no point is it stated that the actual nature of the material, is material to the determination made by the President. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:27:40 PM EDT
[#17]
 Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump indictment sets ‘dangerous precedent’ | On Balance |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:38:17 PM EDT
[#18]
 "January 6 gonna look like a playground" - Supporters Gather as Trump Arrives for Indictment-Miami |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:38:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fydgo0VWwAEz2TH?format=jpg&name=900x900 And as the facts continue to be revealed we will see it’s more and more bullshit. There was no national security threat related to the presidential records Trump took to Mar a Lago, zero. However, there was a civil records dispute that was turned into a bogus criminal investigation. The entire thing is to distract from the real threat to national security, Biden and Co. Wray played into the process by delaying the 1023 while Jack “Ass” Smith put the finishing lies into the indictment. The indictment being released and the 1023 being viewed on the same day wasn’t coincidental. Twenty some pages of not seeing the forest for the trees. That and some narcissistic, patronizing and condescending nonsense from a few people. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:43:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which ones were charged before he left office? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. Which ones were charged before he left office? Is this being done again?  For the umpteenth time, a Presidential pardon can be issued at any time after the crime and, even before any charges are brought. Doesn't need to be directed against a specific person or crime either. https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK. So here again, we run up against Presidential prerogative. The PRA in one of it's few clear moments says that it's the President's decision as to what is a personal record and what is a Presidential record. Not the Archivist, not Congress, not the Courts, and certainly not the Permanent Bureaucracy, but the President. And it doesn't list any exclusions, i.e. "...except for National Defense Information." If Congress had wanted to exclude those things they could have put words to that effect in the PRA, although doing so would have been the Legislative Branch infringing on the Article II powers of the Executive, so it may not survive a court challenge. To me, that makes the entire PRA toothless and pointless, just an exercise in administrivia. Frankly not worth the brain cells so many people are devoting to it. But OTOH, I suppose it provides a good living to a few hundred lawyers, and hours of entertainment to us. I think the moral of the story is that The People should be a whole lot more picky about who we put in that chair, because the powers and privileges that go with it extend much further than anyone realizes. On this point we agree... I am a firm proponent of restrictions on presidential power. The problem, is we give the president broad discretion and immunity so that they are not mired down by political attacks, malicious prosecutions and litigation... |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:57:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this being done again? For the umpteenth time, a Presidential pardon can be issued at any time after the crime and, even before any charges are brought. Doesn't need to be directed against a specific person or crime either. https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion. Yep. He should have known they would be charged and could have issued the pardons before he left office. He left them to hang out to dry |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. He should have known they would be charged and could have issued the pardons before he left office. He left them to hang out to dry You are making the assumption that Trump cares. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:01:06 PM EDT
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Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance
Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance Donald Trump spent the day before his historic appearance in federal court scrambling to find a qualified Florida lawyer willing to join his defense team as he faces the Justice Department’s first prosecution of a former president. After touching down in Miami on Monday, Trump spent the afternoon interviewing prospective lawyers and meeting with his legal team, along with other top advisers, to discuss the case, in which he is accused of mishandling classified documents and obstructing the government’s efforts to retrieve them, according to people familiar with the sessions. Several prominent Florida attorneys declined to take Trump on as a client after two of the key lawyers handling the documents matter — Jim Trusty and John Rowley — resigned last week, according to people familiar with the matter. Seems like a thing you'da want to do a while ago. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:09:50 PM EDT
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 Supporters already gathering to show support for former President Trump at arraignment |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 10:47:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:24:55 PM EDT
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Greg Kelly shows how many documents the FBI seized compared to the pictures they put in the indictment.
 Greg Kelly: They're playing a game with us |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 3:57:20 AM EDT
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So the FBI and DOJ have had vast evidence of Biden crime family corruption for years, hid it, lied about it, and now have even gone so far as to edit and redact evidence against Biden out of an unclassifeid document before letting congress see it and some of you think this investigation into Trump is legit?
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Posted: 6/13/2023 7:14:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So the FBI and DOJ have had vast evidence of Biden crime family corruption for years, hid it, lied about it, and now have even gone so far as to edit and redact evidence against Biden out of an unclassifeid document before letting congress see it and some of you think this investigation into Trump is legit? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/bubbles_zps5bf5952f_GIF-110.gif I'm sure they realize most people see straight through what's really going on. They probably don't like that, but desperate times call for desperate measures. Their incumbent suffers from mid-stage dementia. He's a walking gaff machine who can't be brought out into public without being pumped with so many meds it's a wonder he survives it. It won't be much longer before they have to start using body doubles and deep fakes to get by. The WH is bringing back masks. Interesting timing. It would make using a body double easier, lol. Their VP is so unpopular that she's actually more so than her boss. She sounds like a complete idiot every time she opens her mouth. And those two are the best the DNC has. Two utter clowns who, with their ultra-corrupt handlers, have run the country straight into the ground. And in record time. The US is the laughing stock of the entire world. And it's getting worse every day. We're supposed to believe that same clown potato will be easily reelected, probably with over 100M "votes" in '24. It's laughable. No one buys it, at least no one with half a brain in their head. So yeah. They are desperate. And they reek of it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 7:26:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistorySo did they arrest that guy threatening to draw ??? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 7:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance Seems like a thing you'da want to do a while ago. Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance Trump scrambles to find lawyer on eve of first federal court appearance Donald Trump spent the day before his historic appearance in federal court scrambling to find a qualified Florida lawyer willing to join his defense team as he faces the Justice Department’s first prosecution of a former president. After touching down in Miami on Monday, Trump spent the afternoon interviewing prospective lawyers and meeting with his legal team, along with other top advisers, to discuss the case, in which he is accused of mishandling classified documents and obstructing the government’s efforts to retrieve them, according to people familiar with the sessions. Several prominent Florida attorneys declined to take Trump on as a client after two of the key lawyers handling the documents matter — Jim Trusty and John Rowley — resigned last week, according to people familiar with the matter. Seems like a thing you'da want to do a while ago. Word is they don't want to represent him... he has a reputation for throwing his attorneys under the bus at the drop of a hat... you know, like everyone else.. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 7:40:15 AM EDT
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He has to be in court at 3, but he will be taken into custody first, arrested, booked, fingerprinted before he sees judge so he will need counsel present for that first, right?
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Posted: 6/13/2023 8:43:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He has to be in court at 3, but he will be taken into custody first, arrested, booked, fingerprinted before he sees judge so he will need counsel present for that first, right? If he chooses. Yes. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 9:12:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. How do you pardon someone who hasn’t been convicted of a crime? I guess he could have started a new trend of “pre-pardoning”. How do I get on that list? You just never know when you’ll need it. He could issue these:  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 9:14:16 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Newmax was talking about current polls. Trump takes a double lead over DeSantis, now at 61%. Trump is polling higher with young conservatives than he did in 2016. People are slowly waking up to the corruption in our country. Slowly. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 9:22:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this being done again? For the umpteenth time, a Presidential pardon can be issued at any time after the crime and, even before any charges are brought. Doesn't need to be directed against a specific person or crime either. https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. Which ones were charged before he left office? Is this being done again? For the umpteenth time, a Presidential pardon can be issued at any time after the crime and, even before any charges are brought. Doesn't need to be directed against a specific person or crime either. https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion. Interesting Little known law, myself included. Has that ever been used? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 9:36:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting Little known law, myself included. Has that ever been used? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump should have known on January 6 it was either do or flee. They wouldn't let him just run again. Instead, he cowed out and didn't even pardon the people who showed up for him. Now we're supposed to be all upset for him? People spent years in jail for trespassing charges because he was too gutless to pardon them on his way out the door. Which ones were charged before he left office? Is this being done again? For the umpteenth time, a Presidential pardon can be issued at any time after the crime and, even before any charges are brought. Doesn't need to be directed against a specific person or crime either. https://www.heritage.org/report/the-presidents-broad-power-pardon-and-commute The scope of the pardon power remains quite broad, almost plenary. As Justice Stephen Field wrote in Ex parte Garland (1867), "If granted before conviction, it prevents any of the penalties and disabilities consequent upon conviction from attaching [thereto]; if granted after conviction, it removes the penalties and disabilities, and restores him to all his civil rights; it makes him, as it were, a new man, and gives him a new credit and capacity…. A pardon reaches both the punishment prescribed for the offence and the guilt of the offender…so that in the eye of the law the offender is as innocent as if he had never committed the offence." A pardon is valid whether accepted or not, because its purposes are primarily public. It is an official act. According to United States v. Klein (1871), Congress cannot limit the President's grant of an amnesty or pardon, but it can grant other or further amnesties itself. Though pardons have been litigated, the Court has consistently refused to limit the President's discretion. Interesting Little known law, myself included. Has that ever been used? Yes it has. Andrew Johnson pardoned all the Confederate soldiers and Carter pardoned all the Vietnam draft dodgers. In a more limited scope, Ford pardoned Nixon but for any and all crimes, unspecified. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:46:25 AM EDT
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Trump never dreamed he was going to lose in 2020. He thought he had it in the bag.
Then he dreamed of Mike Pence not certifying the election and Q to reveal himself as the savior of all mankind granting Trump unlimited power over the world. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 11:41:36 AM EDT
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Swamy said he will pardon Trump if he wins.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 11:56:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that defense typically fails. I'd be talking a plea deal before arguing selective prosecution... under federal law the standard is incredibly high. If you enjoy learning about the law read this treatise GOODBYE TO THE DEFENSE OF SELECTIVE PROSECUTION United States v. Armstrong, 116 S. Ct. 1480 (1996) Read this on the train this morning. Good read. Thanks. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 12:12:18 PM EDT
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Cops thought it was a bomb.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 12:40:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump never dreamed he was going to lose in 2020. He thought he had it in the bag. Then he dreamed of Mike Pence not certifying the election and Q to reveal himself as the savior of all mankind granting Trump unlimited power over the world. He was warned by Ken Paxton the Texas AG ahead of time exactly how they were going to steal the election. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 1:37:27 PM EDT
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Trump en route to the courthouse.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 1:40:42 PM EDT
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Flashback
 FLASHBACK: Joe Biden Says he will STOP Trump from Running Again?? |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 1:43:02 PM EDT
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Tv in break room has NBC on. They news people are giddy.
The democrats I work with are loving it. They think trump was selling govt secrets to Putin |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 1:48:39 PM EDT
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Quote History The come and take it 2A flags are peak mental gymnastic irony. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 1:59:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fydgo0VWwAEz2TH?format=jpg&name=900x900 That is all I have. This entire thing is clearly political persecution of an opposition opponent. Investigations and impeachments need to happen sooner rather than later. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 2:10:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you pardon someone who hasn’t been convicted of a crime? I guess he could have started a new trend of “pre-pardoning”. How do I get on that list? You just never know when you’ll need it. He could issue these: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/394844/846F361F-E070-4AD7-9A17-173CF432154A_jpe-2849913.JPG You should ask Gerald Ford, as he pardoned Nixon for crimes he was never convicted of or even charged with. |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 2:13:15 PM EDT
[#49]
We live in the most corrupt country in the world. For anybody too dumb to realize that you better start getting used to it.
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Posted: 6/13/2023 2:17:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We live in the most corrupt country in the world. For anybody too dumb to realize that you better start getting used to it. |
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