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Link Posted: 12/12/2014 8:13:47 PM EDT
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First the dragon, and now THIS?
Oh man... I am in heaven!
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:20:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Update 12/16

Ok, here is my mess up.   You can see way too much "white" where I rubbed it off with sandpaper.   It's just not the look I was going for this time.

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Here it is after I went back and darkened up those areas just a bit.   It's not quite this dark, as it was still wet, but darker than the previous photo.
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This is after going back over the cracks again and darkening them up to enhance them just a bit.   It looks lighter than the last photo, but it's just the way the camera picked up the light.  This is now done, and I need to get started on the texture of the wall base next.  
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Link Posted: 12/16/2014 11:41:43 AM EDT
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Well that was fun.  I just pulled a coyote skin out of our 55gal tumbler that is about 1/3 full of corn meal.    The tumbler barrel is on its side with a door/hatch.    I had the door open and was getting ready to put the skin back in for another hr, when all of the sudden, the damn thing turned on.


The switch is on the bottom, and I wasn't any where near it....fuck, about 5 gal worth of corn meal just spilled all over the floor, as the hatch was still open.   Luckily, it didn't tear the skin, as it was half in and half out when it started up.  

fucking aliens.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:10:42 PM EDT
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fucking aliens teenagers.
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FIFY.  Can't wait to see that on YouTube from the hidden camera in your classroom.  
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:18:42 PM EDT
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FIFY.  Can't wait to see that on YouTube from the hidden camera in your classroom.  
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fucking aliens teenagers.


FIFY.  Can't wait to see that on YouTube from the hidden camera in your classroom.  

That would be funny as hell to watch.   I wish there had been students there to see it and video it.    At least I could have gotten help cleaning that mess up.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 1:19:06 PM EDT
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get the custodian to replace the switch (see what I did there...)
lots of switches arent really all that well sealed and when they get crud in them either fail to make contact or fail to switch off
bet its full of corn meal

Link Posted: 12/16/2014 2:37:15 PM EDT
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get the custodian to replace the switch (see what I did there...)
lots of switches arent really all that well sealed and when they get crud in them either fail to make contact or fail to switch off
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Well that was fun.  


get the custodian to replace the switch (see what I did there...)
lots of switches arent really all that well sealed and when they get crud in them either fail to make contact or fail to switch off
bet its full of corn meal


funny thing.....his brother donated the unit to us, as he decided he didn't need it.   His brother is an amateur taxidermist.    It was a very generous donation.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 4:57:55 PM EDT
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I'd love to see some of his stuffed armatures.  
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 6:08:42 PM EDT
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I'd love to see some of his stuffed armatures.  
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I'd love to see some of his stuffed armatures.  

LOL.....got to love auto correct sometimes.
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 6:10:05 PM EDT
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I'd love to see some of his stuffed armatures.  

LOL.....got to love auto correct sometimes.


Texting my girlfriend it often suggests striptease.  
Link Posted: 12/16/2014 6:49:10 PM EDT
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Well that was fun.  I just pulled a coyote skin out of our 55gal tumbler that is about 1/3 full of corn meal.    The tumbler barrel is on its side with a door/hatch.    I had the door open and was getting ready to put the skin back in for another hr, when all of the sudden, the damn thing turned on.


The switch is on the bottom, and I wasn't any where near it....fuck, about 5 gal worth of corn meal just spilled all over the floor, as the hatch was still open.   Luckily, it didn't tear the skin, as it was half in and half out when it started up.  

fucking aliens.
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Can never trust a yote!
Link Posted: 12/19/2014 1:26:32 AM EDT
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Update 12/18

More rock texture today, but not much.   It was just too busy to get much done.
ETD : I have having a hell of a time coping url with my new tablet.
This is just after applying the rock mix.   It's wet and rough.    
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After it dries a bit, I can go back and smooth out the texture to the more smooth feel that I want.   I can also add cracks, and clean crisp edges in some area.
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Link Posted: 1/5/2015 10:53:45 PM EDT
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Update 1/5
I was way too lazy over the break, and my 10 month old GSD pup wanted too much of my time, so I never made it in to work on this project.

Today I again started adding more texture to the base.  I'm renewed in creating more details, so that's probably a good thing.  I was trying to get more small protrusions.  I like what is happening, but I think I need to work on not making them too much the same, or splitting them all the same.

Tomorrow, I'll get more done.
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Link Posted: 1/6/2015 1:17:56 PM EDT
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Thread hijack here.  I stumbled as I was splitting the belly skin on my wife's 10 point buck she shot on Sunday and split the hide all the way through the chest to the neck/chest intersection.  I have been told this hide is no unusable for a mount.  is this true it's an old buck and his face is all scared up I don't want to use another hide.

Eta going for a shoulder mount on this one
Link Posted: 1/6/2015 1:26:13 PM EDT
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Thread hijack here.  I stumbled as I was splitting the belly skin on my wife's 10 point buck she shot on Sunday and split the hide all the way through the chest to the neck/chest intersection.  I have been told this hide is no unusable for a mount.  is this true it's an old buck and his face is all scared up I don't want to use another hide.

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Hide can still be used if you have a good taxidermist, just be aware that you'll have a visible seam they'll have to close. The guy I use gets stuff like that all the time.
Link Posted: 1/6/2015 1:30:54 PM EDT
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Hide can still be used if you have a good taxidermist, just be aware that you'll have a visible seam they'll have to close. The guy I use gets stuff like that all the time.
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Thread hijack here.  I stumbled as I was splitting the belly skin on my wife's 10 point buck she shot on Sunday and split the hide all the way through the chest to the neck/chest intersection.  I have been told this hide is no unusable for a mount.  is this true it's an old buck and his face is all scared up I don't want to use another hide.

Eta going for a shoulder mount on this one

Hide can still be used if you have a good taxidermist, just be aware that you'll have a visible seam they'll have to close. The guy I use gets stuff like that all the time.


Yup, and if the taxidermist is worth anything, the seam is usually not visible.   It depends a lot on the thickness of the cape hair.    Early capes from Aug.-Sept will be more difficult to hide the seam.   If the hair is cut along with the cape along the cut, it's more work.   All the cape with cut hair will have to be removed, then sewn back together to keep it from showing.    

We get more spots on capes where the skinner accidentally runs the knife across a patch of hair, and cuts it.    It all has to be removed, just like the burned hair from the bullet entrance/exit.      I'll show how to do that later when I actually get started on the cape of this moose.
Link Posted: 1/6/2015 2:06:42 PM EDT
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It's cut in a straight line down the center from the Inside.  Nice clean cut, I just went on auto pilot.  I skin 100-1 no mount vs mount.   Ok thanks for the info, now I just have to find a good taxidermist.
Link Posted: 1/6/2015 2:35:43 PM EDT
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It really shouldn't be that bad.  I've had students fix antelope and mule deer cut that way, but their hides and capes are pretty thick during hunting season.   It was not visible on any of them, except one that was a pretty poor student.  
Link Posted: 1/6/2015 2:50:07 PM EDT
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It really shouldn't be that bad.  I've had students fix antelope and mule deer cut that way, but their hides and capes are pretty thick during hunting season.   It was not visible on any of them, except one that was a pretty poor student.  
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It's cut in a straight line down the center from the Inside.  Nice clean cut, I just went on auto pilot.  I skin 100-1 no mount vs mount.   Ok thanks for the info, now I just have to find a good taxidermist.

It really shouldn't be that bad.  I've had students fix antelope and mule deer cut that way, but their hides and capes are pretty thick during hunting season.   It was not visible on any of them, except one that was a pretty poor student.  

I am considering doing the mount myself but not sure if I want to invest the time.  I have never done it but I have tanned hides and skinned lots of animals and even fish for mounts.
Link Posted: 1/7/2015 11:47:55 AM EDT
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Update 1/7

Finally got all the rock work done...at least for now.    Later today, I'll get some paint on some of it.    Getting closer to the actual "taxidermy" work.

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Link Posted: 1/7/2015 1:22:53 PM EDT
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I can't wait for the motion-sensor pivot servos
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 11:46:05 AM EDT
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Update 1/9

Finally, I'm finished with the rock painting.     That was a lot of real-estate to paint.  I can finally get started with the actual mount now.    First up will be getting the horns mounted to the form.    Not sure I'll have time to do that today, but for sure on Monday.

20150109_082448 by guns762, on Flickr" />

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Link Posted: 1/9/2015 12:12:36 PM EDT
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You make some nice looking rocks. Crazy the amount of time can be put into those.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 12:20:58 PM EDT
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Nice Art!  Love this project!  Looking forward to seeing the final result!
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 12:34:07 PM EDT
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Yeah, or you can just buy some premade.....LOL....     What fun would that be, though.  
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 8:10:28 PM EDT
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Continued Update 1/9
I got lucky and got the antlers mounted this afternoon.  I'll post more tonight after I take my babe out for dinner.  

Here is how I started, drawing out part of the eye that I need to remove.  This allows me to match up the skull orbital to the foam.  If you don't do this, it's tough to get the right angle on the skull cap, and also the correct distance from the eyes to the horn burr.  More later.
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Link Posted: 1/9/2015 9:31:45 PM EDT
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Back from dinner....

So, once I had the form cut, I started fitting the skull plate to it.

20150109_095524 by guns762, on Flickr" />

Here you can see how the eye orbit matches the form, once enough is sliced off the bottom and front of the skull cap.

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Checking for fit from the front.

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Link Posted: 1/9/2015 10:13:33 PM EDT
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So once I'm sure of the correct fit of the skull cap, I drilled four holes; two in front, two in back.
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Then I screwed the cap down to the form.  I checked carefully on the sides to make sure the ends of the optical orbits line up with the form.
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With the skull cap secured, I added bondo around the cap to glue it down and keep it from coming loose.
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Link Posted: 1/9/2015 11:12:19 PM EDT
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Looking good, I like the way the antlers look turned down at that angle. Almost looks like it'll turn into a feeding or drinking  mount.
Link Posted: 1/9/2015 11:34:50 PM EDT
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hopefully, something like that.      I've got an idea, we will see if I can pull it off.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 1:16:21 PM EDT
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More coming today.    It's final's week so I've been busy trying to get all my students portfolios turned in.      I'm prepping for putting the cape on early next week.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 1:43:08 PM EDT
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hopefully, something like that.      I've got an idea, we will see if I can pull it off.


If you're going to make it a fountain, you need a Belgian Peeing Boy on top of those rocks.  
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 3:19:32 PM EDT
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Update 1/14

I applied plaster to the skull cap to start smoothing out and blending the surface to the form.
20150113_092827 by guns762, on Flickr" />

After some filing off of some of the rough edges, I reapplied more plaster and smoothed it out with wet fingers.   Once that was dry, I filed it again rasp to get the contours even.
20150114_071257 by guns762, on Flickr" />

With that all finished, I started working on the eye.   The whole needs to be big enough for the glass eye to fit easily.
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It's important to be careful with the eyes, as they break rather easily if they are dropped.   That sucks when they are a special size like these.  These are just white tail eyes, but in a huge size.   We normally have 32mm on hand, but these are 36mm.    
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 3:30:35 PM EDT
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Continued update 1/14

With the eye sockets all done, I opened up the mouth.   This allows the lip skin to be pushed into the gap.  It's more open at the corners where there will be more material.
Notice the saw blade doing up, and not directly in.    This gives the bottom jaw more strength, and keeps it from being pried open by the skin as it dries.   Not that that has ever happened to me.

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The nose is next.   It needs to be opened up a bit and detailed for the skin to go over the insides of the nostrils.   I used some close up pictures for referencs.  As long as they are both the same, i'll be ok.  
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I started with a cut up under the nose, as I could see in the references.
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I opened up the left side of it with the larger bit, then evened out the edges.
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Finally, I opened up the tear ducts with the saw blade, so I will be able to tuck them in.
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 4:00:18 PM EDT
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MOAR!!!!
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 9:54:08 PM EDT
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These are the best threads on ARFCOM!
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 12:16:17 PM EDT
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I'm sorry to say that my schedule over this last week was all full, and I was not able to set aside time to work on the moose at all.  The next week should allow me time to get this thing going again.

I offer reparations of some students projects in progress.

A wolf rug; the finishing work on the mouth and nose was getting done today.  
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A bobcat going together today.   Hopefully it isn't a total failure.  
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The ear of the bobcat.  We already have a little slipping on the inside, which isn't totally unusual, but frustrating to fix.
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The bobcat form, with a new nose, and a few inches added to the length.
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Link Posted: 1/22/2015 3:14:55 PM EDT
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Mmm Wheat Thins and SoBe
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 3:22:37 PM EDT
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More bobcat.    

The legs of this poor cat are really skinny, as he was left in a trap for quite some time.    This was given to us by the G&F.    We had to lengthen the legs a bit, and thin out the form a lot.    

The students are sewing up the paws and front legs right now, stuffing clay into the feet, and using extra foam and wire for more length.    When they get all four legs sewn up, they will then sew up the belly.

We used a rug cut on this one, as we expected to have some problems with the size, and how skinny this was.    It's not very fun or quick sewing up each leg and the belly.  So far, it seems to be going well, but slow.  

I told them, if this turns out any where close to the "Haaaayyyyyy!!" bobcat, they are both dead to me.  
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The hide is wet when we put it on the form, so it stretches, and it's easier to sew around than fluffy hair.   Right now, he looks like a drowned rat.     His super skinny legs look worse with the large paws.   I have to keep reminding the boys, it's going to look ok, when it drys out.  
Hopefully, I'm right.
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Link Posted: 1/22/2015 3:26:55 PM EDT
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That bobcat looks pretty dead
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Holy smokes I want a rug like that! I wonder if I can pop a coyote and do that myself.
Link Posted: 1/22/2015 3:45:53 PM EDT
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I am sure it will probably look a lot different when it is done, but right now,

this picture









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this picture

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looks a lot like this guy.

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Yes it does.
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I am sure it will probably look a lot different when it is done, but right now,

this picture
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looks a lot like this guy.
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Hayyyy
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I told my students you posted the "Haaaaaayyy" picture, and the response was, "Bastards".  
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They didn't get it all sewn up today.   Tomorrow they should finish, and start tucking the face, getting it blown out and ready for drying.
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Link Posted: 1/22/2015 8:13:56 PM EDT
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I told my students you posted the "Haaaaaayyy" picture, and the response was, "Bastards".  

Link Posted: 1/23/2015 9:31:29 PM EDT
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They got it all blown out today and the face set.  I know in the picture the eyes look off, but its the angle.  They look pretty decent in person.  

It was not a fun day, as the hair slipped on a few spots, and this poor cat did not fit the form well, as it was emaciated, from being left in a trap.  It's probably why we were having problems with the hair slipping.   The only serious problem area is not visible unless you dig through a bunch of surrounding hair.  

Once this dries, they will hit the details.  The nose will obviously get painted.  
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Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:14:25 PM EDT
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All things considered, the bobcat's not looking too bad. I've seen worse-what I've seen from one local taxidermist is especially disappointing.
Link Posted: 1/23/2015 11:19:31 PM EDT
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Great job Pokey.   Looking good.
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