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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:37:14 AM EDT
Civilians must prepare for all-out war with Russia in the next 20 years, a top Nato military official has warned.
While armed forces are primed for the outbreak of war, private citizens need to be ready for a conflict that would require wholesale change in their lives, Adml Rob Bauer said on Thursday. Large numbers of civilians will need to be mobilised in case of the outbreak of war and governments should put in place systems to manage the process, Adml Bauer told reporters after a meeting of Nato defence chiefs in Brussels. "We have to realise it's not a given that we are in peace. And that's why we [Nato forces] are preparing for a conflict with Russia. "But the discussion is much wider. It is also the industrial base and also the people that have to understand they play a role." Adml Bauer, a Dutch naval officer who is chairman of Nato's Military Committee, praised Sweden for asking all of its citizens to brace for war ahead of the country formally joining the alliance. Stockholm's move, announced earlier this month, has led to a surge in volunteers for the country's civil defence organisation and a spike in sales of torches and battery-powered radios. moar  |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:38:25 AM EDT
[#1]
20 years, huh? Going out on a limb with that prediction.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:39:10 AM EDT
[#2]
All out, as opposed to the proxy war the feds are currently in, eh...
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:40:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 years, huh? Going out on a limb with that prediction. Exactly. Isn't that the entire premise of NATA's existance? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:40:54 AM EDT
[#4]
Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No.
All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:41:05 AM EDT
[#5]
If they say 20 I’m thinking 2-4.
Eta: better go chop some wood. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:41:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 years, huh? Going out on a limb with that prediction. This. Yawn. Whatever. Give me a break 20 years. Whatever. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:42:35 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 years, huh? Going out on a limb with that prediction. I think that NATO should start it. In Africa. On foot. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:42:43 AM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? 
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:43:13 AM EDT
[#9]
Maybe by then Europe will have rebuilt what they gave away to Ukraine and be able to field a single functional US division's worth of combat power.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:44:57 AM EDT
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Wasn't Fridays article within 5 years ? Tomorrow's article will say by May. They have to gin support to keep the machine running. Too many jobs and too many livelihoods depends on making war.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:52:06 AM EDT
[#11]
The Election pandemic will make it all irrelevant.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:54:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: Civilians must prepare for all-out war with Russia in the next 20 years, They said that almost 80 years ago. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 10:55:36 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:00:40 AM EDT
[#14]
 .We’ve been hearing that for decades…several decades.What’s two more decades? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:02:56 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? They always deflect from China and throw Russia in our faces like a big distracting flag. Did the same with Trump. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:04:16 AM EDT
[#16]
The kids of those third world invaders they have living there will not want to fight the white European's war. Neither will the children of our third world invaders.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:06:54 AM EDT
[#17]
I’m not really concerned about Russia. I mean they can’t even take over Ukraine and just lost a main battle tank to a 25mm chain gun.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:10:40 AM EDT
[#18]
Seems like they have done their best to provoke a war with Russia over the last 3 years....
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:13:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryStockholm's move, announced earlier this month, has led to a surge in volunteers for the country's civil defence organisation and a spike in sales of torches and battery-powered radios. Flashlights and battery powered radios. No guns though. Not anything that might actually do any good. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:15:53 AM EDT
[#20]
I too can make predictions! Some time in the next 50 years a war will be fought in the middle east.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:16:15 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The kids of those third world invaders they have living there will not want to fight the white European's war. Neither will the children of our third world invaders. Exactly. Epsecially if Russia is still on friendly terms with the middle east at the time. More likely to see intifadas all over europe athe start of hostilities. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:16:49 AM EDT
[#22]
Not interested in trench warfare for me or mine just to enable elite d measuring and profiteering. Go find other cannon fodder.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:17:07 AM EDT
[#23]
Russia, who can’t overrun Ukraine, is going to steamroll Europe?
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:18:07 AM EDT
[#24]
You know what they say about predictions in GD..
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:21:06 AM EDT
[#25]
20 years? Try 20 months.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:27:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Even if NATO has to start it.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:29:11 AM EDT
[#27]
When does runaway climate doom start? Only one of those things will matter. Which should we prep for?
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:29:16 AM EDT
[#28]
20 years. I thought it was imminent. I’m going back to sleep
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:31:00 AM EDT
[#29]
Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:31:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WWIII will be a welcome distraction from the economic collapse in merica. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:32:22 AM EDT
[#31]
Nothing will happen till they disarm the civilians, then the conflict will be with the UN.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:33:02 AM EDT
[#32]
How far will the globalist go...to establish their world government...?
Or to keep Trump out of the WH. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:33:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman. Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:35:26 AM EDT
[#34]
They arent investing in materials of war like they think this is true.
Fuck them, let the soviets have them next time. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:36:36 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman. Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:37:21 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, no. China? Yes. Russia? No. All that said, the warmongers and globalists sure are beating that war drum, arent they?!? |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:41:44 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Isn't that the entire premise of NATA's existance? unless he's talking about street to street fighting or rationing not sure why citizens are to get prepared |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 11:47:44 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude. We can't even stomp Iran's toadies. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman. Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:18:38 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Russia can't beat fucking Ukraine. Putin is NOT going to attack any NATO country. They need to find a new/better/realistic Boogeyman. Now would be a good time for us to go stomp Russia. Problem solved. Our military is currently under strength, it's overcommitted, and it's run by incompetents. Fighting Russia, in Russia, would be a bloodbath for us. We could stomp any country on the planet. All we lack is the will to do it. IF we are willing to almost double the current size of our military; IF we are willing to cut social programs, or raise taxes, or both, to fund that build up; IF we are willing to radically change our industrial policies in order to supply that build up; and IF we are willing to reinstate the draft in order to man that build up. So IF we are willing to do all that THEN we will be back at the point we were post-Desert Storm as the World's Only Superpower. But given current political realities, that is even less likely than the US Marines re-taking Crimea. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:21:21 PM EDT
[#40]
Western financial collapse coming up! They always hide it with war.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:23:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. Epsecially if Russia is still on friendly terms with the middle east at the time. More likely to see intifadas all over europe athe start of hostilities. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The kids of those third world invaders they have living there will not want to fight the white European's war. Neither will the children of our third world invaders. Exactly. Epsecially if Russia is still on friendly terms with the middle east at the time. More likely to see intifadas all over europe athe start of hostilities. Europe has a long and colorful history of getting tired of and subsequently pogromming people from that part of the world. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:24:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Western financial collapse coming up! They always hide it with war. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:31:32 PM EDT
[#43]
Just like the book
 Red Storm Rising: Chapter 35 Time On Target |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:32:04 PM EDT
[#44]
The Russians themselves have clearly and repeatedly stated that they intend to attack other European countries, some of which are NATO members.
The danger is almost certainly sooner rather than later. If Ukraine falls, Russia can roll right over any number of her neighbors with little or no opposition. They will absolutely impress former Ukrainian soldiers into the newly expanded Russian Army to do so. So, "Fuck Ukraine" right?! |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:33:52 PM EDT
[#45]
Come on, global warming will kill us all in the next... lol
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:37:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The kids of those third world invaders they have living there will not want to fight the white European's war. Neither will the children of our third world invaders. They won't have a choice. |
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:37:30 PM EDT
[#47]
That's a better time horizon than I'd expect.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:42:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Fucking yawn
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:43:38 PM EDT
[#49]
send the trannies and females first.
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Posted: 1/21/2024 12:44:59 PM EDT
[#50]
Atlantic Council and Center for a New American Security would love it.
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