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Posted: 2/16/2020 9:49:43 AM EDT
Three growing kids. We already have 2 4WD vehicles and one AWD so we are thinking about buying something that's easier to get kids in/out of. Wouldn't hurt if it was also easy for grandparents to get in/out of, too.

We don't buy new cars. Probably never will. So we're looking for something, preferably under $20k, 2-5 years old. Needs sliding doors on both sides, leather seats, bluetooth.....don't care about drivetrain as long as it has a reputation for longevity.

Best option?
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 9:52:02 AM EDT
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AWD Sienna

Should be able to find a 2016-17 in that price range
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 9:52:14 AM EDT
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My apologies.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 9:58:44 AM EDT
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We love the two Odysseys we’ve had and you might find one 5 years old in your price range. We just picked up a 2018 Touring and it is very nice.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:22:24 AM EDT
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I rented a Pacifica once and it wasn't bad at all for a van.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:26:21 AM EDT
[#5]
AWD Sienna if it’s in the budget.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:28:47 AM EDT
[#6]
They are awesome!
Would have one now but it was not in the used car cards when I was looking to replace the old one.
I have a 13 and 16 year old, and would still be driving a mini van!
They rock.

Had an Odyssey (had 200K plaus on it when it died) - to me you either buy that or a Sienna as your only choices.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:31:16 AM EDT
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Three growing kids. We already have 2 4WD vehicles and one AWD so we are thinking about buying something that's easier to get kids in/out of. Wouldn't hurt if it was also easy for grandparents to get in/out of, too.

We don't buy new cars. Probably never will. So we're looking for something, preferably under $20k, 2-5 years old. Needs sliding doors on both sides, leather seats, bluetooth.....don't care about drivetrain as long as it has a reputation for longevity.

Best option?
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we have a 2014 Chrysler Town and Country Touring L (leather seats, heated captains chairs in the front and mid, tv screen flips down from the roof to play dvds, remote start all standard) bought it new with 7mi on it, 4 were my test drive, it now has almost 160k and knock on wood nothing but routine maintenance on it.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:31:22 AM EDT
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Honda Odyssey
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:32:33 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:32:48 AM EDT
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No experience with the AWD, but we've had FWD Siennas since 2005.  They rock.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:36:24 AM EDT
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Three growing kids. We already have 2 4WD vehicles and one AWD so we are thinking about buying something that's easier to get kids in/out of. Wouldn't hurt if it was also easy for grandparents to get in/out of, too.

We don't buy new cars. Probably never will. So we're looking for something, preferably under $20k, 2-5 years old. Needs sliding doors on both sides, leather seats, bluetooth.....don't care about drivetrain as long as it has a reputation for longevity.

Best option?
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We have owned two Chrysler Town and Country vans and have put a combined 400,000 miles on them.  Currently own a 2008 with 200,000 miles and have done nothing but battery, brakes and tires.  With your requirement of under $20,000 the Town and Country is hard to beat.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:36:44 AM EDT
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Toyota Sienna 4x4 lifted :SEMA Las Vegas
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:38:22 AM EDT
[#13]
I still have my 1994 Ford Aerostar......
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:39:00 AM EDT
[#14]
Odyssey.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:39:22 AM EDT
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I can't help out on the van you seek, but I will show this thread to my co worker who's on the fence about getting a vasectomy.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:41:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:45:37 AM EDT
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My wife has a 2011 Toyota Sienna AWD.

Because the AWD system takes up the space where the spare tire would normally be, the van comes equipped from the factory with run-flat tires.

Of course you can run normal tires but again .... you have no spare.

It's not a huge deal but run-flat tires tend to run well past $200 per tire ...and if one tire goes ... you only have two options because of the AWD system.

Option number one is you replace all four tires.

Option number two is you buy a brand new tire from Tire Rack and have them shave it down to match the tread depth remaining on the other three tires.

With children.... if you do not get the DVD Entertainment System.... you are doing it wrong.

That particular feature is an absolute must if you do not own a portable means of movie watching for the kids.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:47:40 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:48:51 AM EDT
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No experience with the AWD, but we've had FWD Siennas since 2005.  They rock.
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Sienna gets a vote from me.

They just last.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:49:51 AM EDT
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We just retired our Honda Odyssey.

AC and motor mount issues.  Repetitively.  Side door motor issues.

If I needed one today I would get the Toyota.  Honda, in my opinion, has had quality issues for a few years.

I just posted this in the Honda v. Traverse
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:50:05 AM EDT
[#21]
Odyssey or Sienna.  Both are good ones.  We've had both and we prefer the Odyssey.  We would probably still have the Sienna if it didn't get totaled by some guy running a stop sign.  Luckily the van did it's job and kept my wife and kids safe.  Just small glass cuts and my wife was sore for a couple weeks.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 10:54:14 AM EDT
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Grand caravan here. 100k from new and doing great. They are the most useful and safest vehicles on the road. I’ll probably get a Pacifica next time
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:05:50 AM EDT
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The Odyssey used to be the king of the hill of minivans.  These days, I think it is the Sienna.  American makes rust faster, but that might be a lower concern where OP is located.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:07:04 AM EDT
[#24]
Get the collision avoidance,  adaptive cruise control, lane keeping assist, etc. It makes road trips much less exhausting.

Kharn
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:19:17 AM EDT
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My wife loves her Sienna.  It has a spot for her purse and has been trouble-free.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:47:03 AM EDT
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They are no longer called "Minivans" now they are called "three row SUVs".
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:53:47 AM EDT
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we have a 2014 Chrysler Town and Country Touring L (leather seats, heated captains chairs in the front and mid, tv screen flips down from the roof to play dvds, remote start all standard) bought it new with 7mi on it, 4 were my test drive, it now has almost 160k and knock on wood nothing but routine maintenance on it.
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Same, except the motor started knocking at 97K.
Dodge gave me a reman motor, still running strong at 160K, damn near zero maintenance.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:56:45 AM EDT
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We're on our second Town and Country. First was a '96 purchased in 2000, the current one an '06 acquired in 2012'

They've both been very reliable, but on the newer one, the rear condenser has shit the bed twice now due to bad design.

My kids are grown now so I capped the front lines off, evacuated and recharged with Freon.

The stow and go seats are tits. I can fit a fuck ton of guns in that thing

The 96 went for 240 some odd thousand miles. This one has over 150K
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 11:58:58 AM EDT
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Nothing says bad ass like a middle aged father driving down the road in a mini van listening to Die MF Die in an Odyssey.

Ask me how I know...

They are perfect for what they are, tho, which is a family hauler. The sliding doors go perfectly with small kids and there is plenty of room to carry shit if you need to.

That being said, my wife has been eying some SUVs now and I don’t blame her. We will hold on to the van for a while longer, though.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:04:56 PM EDT
[#30]
We bought a 2017 Sienna LE in early January.

Bar none favorite vehicle we’ve ever owned. Overnight I turned into a minivan evangelist.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:11:52 PM EDT
[#31]
Odyssey or Sienna. Best choices.

VW has the Routan but stopped making in 2013. Nice but dated now.
Chryler is ALOT more cramped on inside for same exterior size. It's nice but just not as roomy.

Currently have AWD Sienna with all the extras. Nice ride.

There was a price difference between the Honda and Toyota new. A few $ with the Honda being more. Around here, it's slightly more popular. I just didn't like the styling inside quite as much. They were going to some sort of bastardized Star Trek Enterprise swooping dash crap that was ugly. Thus, Sienna it was. Replaced a Routan that saved wife and son from a t-bone that totaled it.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:13:43 PM EDT
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I have a 2006 Toyota Sienna, it's fucking incredible. Most reliable vehicle I've ever owned, although it's had some problems with the front wheel bearings. But that may be due to the fact that I drive the hell out of it and even use it to tow other cars despite being a FWD.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:14:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:14:46 PM EDT
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AWD Astro, best damn work van I've ever had. Fits plenty, comfortable ride, plenty of visibility, people drive safer around me because they think I'm a soccer mom...
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:17:11 PM EDT
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I have a 2014 VW Routan thats just a re-badged Chrysler. Great vehicle that covers all your wants OP.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:26:27 PM EDT
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Nothing says bad ass like a middle aged father driving down the road in a mini van listening to Die MF Die in an Odyssey.

Ask me how I know...

They are perfect for what they are, tho, which is a family hauler. The sliding doors go perfectly with small kids and there is plenty of room to carry shit if you need to.

That being said, my wife has been eying some SUVs now and I don’t blame her. We will hold on to the van for a while longer, though.
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Yep.  As much as I would want some sort of 4x4 pickup with mild lift etc, realistically a minivan fits my needs best.  Anything I would haul would need to be covered and/or secure.  With that, a minivan can carry a TON of stuff.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:27:23 PM EDT
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Had a Caravan and currently a Town and Country. Love 'em both. We ditched the Caravan after 200k miles and got the T&C, it has 115k miles with normal maintenance. About 15 years ownership between the two.

We're going to look a the Pacificas today at the auto show. Time for an upgrade.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:27:42 PM EDT
[#38]
This is what you seek!

Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:30:28 PM EDT
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I would buy another Chrysler Minivan in a heartbeat.
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Our 2016 just blew a transmission at 125k.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:32:24 PM EDT
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Had a Mazda 5. It will seat 6 and it zips along with its 4 banger. I took the 3 kids out to Yellowstone in that thing. Loaded the back to the ceiling and a rooftop luggage xcargo clan shell. Averaged 38mpg
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:32:45 PM EDT
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We always got minivans when we went TAD for dets and such. Loved doing donuts with both sliding doors open. Unbelievably spacious and practical. But still, it’s not worth the fact that you still drive a minivan, just screams “I gave up on life”.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:34:30 PM EDT
[#42]
How to minivan appropriately



Also, van is actually racing W2W in Austin at COTA today
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 12:52:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:06:36 PM EDT
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AWD Sienna

Should be able to find a 2016-17 in that price range
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Yup, we have a ‘15 and it’s solid. Hard to beat when you have multiple kids and they have activities/sports and friends.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:11:19 PM EDT
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Congrats on not letting the foolish soccer mom stigma get to you.  Minivans are a perfect vehicle for a lot of people.

We were just looking at the Pacifica and at the top trim level they are incredible.

Consumer Reports might be a good reference for used reliability reports
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:13:18 PM EDT
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The Pacifica has by far been the nicest one ive rented, but it has a contour in the floor,  that others dont, that really sucks to sleep on.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:15:18 PM EDT
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Congrats on not letting the foolish soccer mom stigma get to you.  Minivans are a perfect vehicle for a lot of people.

We were just looking at the Pacifica and at the top trim level they are incredible.

Consumer Reports might be a good reference for used reliability reports
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All the soccer moms drive crossovers now anyway.

I’ll get a minivan if available when I’m getting rentals  The flat fold seats in the middle are great for equipment.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:38:30 PM EDT
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Had a Caravan and currently a Town and Country. Love 'em both. We ditched the Caravan after 200k miles and got the T&C, it has 115k miles with normal maintenance. About 15 years ownership between the two.

We're going to look a the Pacificas today at the auto show. Time for an upgrade.
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Personally I prefer the Town and Country/Grand Caravan platform more than the Pacifica, imo they tried to go more “crossover” with the Pacifica, and it has the hump like a poster mentioned. They actually still make the TC/ Grand Caravan just in the 5th gen model (same as mine) under the dodge brand. Unless things change we will prob be due replacing ours in the next few years, and I will look hard at that one.
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:48:12 PM EDT
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Congrats on not letting the foolish soccer mom stigma get to you.  Minivans are a perfect vehicle for a lot of people.
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I'm with you.  Why are people worried about what others think?

I don't really give a shit what people think about what I drive. They didn't buy it, I did. Even now that my kids are grown
I still like my T & C. Hell you can lay sheets of ply in the back of it, and as I mentioned before, I can haul a shit load of guns in it
when doing the fun show circuit
Link Posted: 2/16/2020 1:49:34 PM EDT
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Minivans are underrated.

The average basic bitch suburban soccer mom drives a Yukon/Denali/Tahoe/Suburban these days.

So the stereotype minivans once had is gone in my mind.
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