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Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:39:16 PM EST
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And see, therein lies the problem.  It's hard to enjoy and explore such an interesting part of American history where there is such polar extremes in outsider attitude.  Go up the holler to explore and you could be invited for snack of home cooked cornbread.   Or a bullet.  The problem is that it is impossible to tell how welcome you are in an area until it's too late.  It's impossible for an outsider to know before hand which hollers are off limits.

It's a shame, I love Appalachian lore.  I read the Foxfire volumes cover to cover dozens of times, and done a few trips to hike the area.  Beautiful place, some wonderful people.  I'd love to live there one day, but the threat of crime that comes with rampant drug abuse and general hostility of outsiders keeps me nervous.  I dont know if investing my retirement wealth into an area that may socially reject me as an outsider is wise.
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They are very unlikely to shoot you if you move in.
If they don't want you there they will just steal everything and burn you out.

ETA: I suppose you could stop and ask the Sheriff. They would know which holler was which.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 7:56:46 PM EST
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They are very unlikely to shoot you if you move in.
If they don't want you there they will just steal everything and burn you out.
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Sounds like such a welcoming culture.

I'm getting the impression that the only people who can make Appalachia work for them is if their family was firmly established there for generations.  This is not unique to eastern kentucky.

I have a sizeable amount of funds that I was planning to use to purchase a modest acreage in western montana, a spec on the map outside of Red Lodge.  Rented a cabin for a month so I could get the lay of the land and read the community a bit before purchasing.  Glad I didn't buy it.  The people were very "clannish".  Rarely spoke, smiled or waved.   Always caught the vibe that they were "sizing up" the outsider, and just caught the feeling that I wasn't welcome.

Being in the .mil for decades, I've grown used to moving around.  Still though, it's hard to be the outsider, always being judged with suspicion.  I just want to establish roots in a welcoming community.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:04:59 PM EST
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And see, therein lies the problem.  It's hard to enjoy and explore such an interesting part of American history where there is such polar extremes in outsider attitude.  Go up the holler to explore and you could be invited for snack of home cooked cornbread.   Or a bullet.  The problem is that it is impossible to tell how welcome you are in an area until it's too late.  It's impossible for an outsider to know before hand which hollers are off limits.

It's a shame, I love Appalachian lore.  I read the Foxfire volumes cover to cover dozens of times, and done a few trips to hike the area.  Beautiful place, some wonderful people.  I'd love to live there one day, but the threat of crime that comes with rampant drug abuse and general hostility of outsiders keeps me nervous.  I dont know if investing my retirement wealth into an area that may socially reject me as an outsider is wise.
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Most people in Appalachia will not have any problem with you as long as you are nice and understand things may be done a little diffrent here. We are a clanish, and are suspicious of outsiders. That's the way it has always been. Most are just hard working people and want to live their life. I know millionaires and people who don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but both would give you the shirt off of their backs.

Poverty is a problem here, and that does cause some problems. The median income of my county is about $28,000. There are drug problems and petty crimes. Murders and stuff like that don't happen a lot here.

I would not live anywhere but in the holler I live in. I have a good job,a farm, and can't see another house from mine. You don't have the amenities a city offers here, but I can hunt, fish,and shoot all I want.
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:25:55 PM EST
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Says the guy too chickenshit to list his home state on a website?

Bwaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa

We are the place all of our out of state friends and relatives come to in order to get away from it and have a relaxing weekend with family and friends.
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"Don't go in","some people go in and don't come back out","multiple generations of families in a remote area","cops don't go in those areas"..What is a person who never been to those areas supposed to think ? Im sure there are plenty of heartwarming stories from St Louis MO as well..

I'll tell you what ,YOU go driving in one of these remote hollows in WV for a weekend getaway with your family and then come back here and tell us all about your glorious vacation lol
Says the guy too chickenshit to list his home state on a website?

Bwaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaa

We are the place all of our out of state friends and relatives come to in order to get away from it and have a relaxing weekend with family and friends.
I have no idea the logic you are applying,but what does me not listing my home state have to do with anything ?

So these hollows are completely safe for an outsider to visit ?

People are saying don't make a wrong turn etc...They are wrong ?

Honestly,I could see myself getting lost out there in that beautiful country on my dirt bike,but according to some people I could also wind up dead lol
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:33:21 PM EST
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How is this not completely obvious?
Link Posted: 2/26/2019 8:34:26 PM EST
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I have no idea the logic you are applying,but what does me not listing my home state have to do with anything ?

So these hollows are completely safe for an outsider to visit ?

People are saying don't make a wrong turn etc...They are wrong ?

Honestly,I could see myself getting lost out there in that beautiful country on my dirt bike,but according to some people I could also wind up dead lol
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You will be fine as long as you are on roads that go somewhere.
It's the dead end hollows that are populated by one family or so that can be an issue. They often consider it a private lane.
No reason to be there unless you have business with them, or you are gonna steal from them, or you work for law enforcement.
So if they know you don't have business with them, they can be pretty unwelcoming.
Link Posted: 2/27/2019 12:15:57 AM EST
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I'd sure like to know how many "possum hollows" there are in WV. Hundreds, I bet.
That's what they said ours was called, but no map had a name for it.
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When I do a Google search using "Possum Hollow" This is the main one that pops up.
Link Posted: 2/27/2019 4:20:54 AM EST
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Sounds like such a welcoming culture.

I'm getting the impression that the only people who can make Appalachia work for them is if their family was firmly established there for generations.  This is not unique to eastern kentucky.

I have a sizeable amount of funds that I was planning to use to purchase a modest acreage in western montana, a spec on the map outside of Red Lodge.  Rented a cabin for a month so I could get the lay of the land and read the community a bit before purchasing.  Glad I didn't buy it.  The people were very "clannish".  Rarely spoke, smiled or waved.   Always caught the vibe that they were "sizing up" the outsider, and just caught the feeling that I wasn't welcome.

Being in the .mil for decades, I've grown used to moving around.  Still though, it's hard to be the outsider, always being judged with suspicion.  I just want to establish roots in a welcoming community.
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They are very unlikely to shoot you if you move in.
If they don't want you there they will just steal everything and burn you out.
Sounds like such a welcoming culture.

I'm getting the impression that the only people who can make Appalachia work for them is if their family was firmly established there for generations.  This is not unique to eastern kentucky.

I have a sizeable amount of funds that I was planning to use to purchase a modest acreage in western montana, a spec on the map outside of Red Lodge.  Rented a cabin for a month so I could get the lay of the land and read the community a bit before purchasing.  Glad I didn't buy it.  The people were very "clannish".  Rarely spoke, smiled or waved.   Always caught the vibe that they were "sizing up" the outsider, and just caught the feeling that I wasn't welcome.

Being in the .mil for decades, I've grown used to moving around.  Still though, it's hard to be the outsider, always being judged with suspicion.  I just want to establish roots in a welcoming community.
Do you have California plates?
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