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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:30:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By @realwar: Apple just laid off 600+ people from their CA location. More coming..  Attached File "Lost $4 Billion" - $.99 Cents Stores Close 371 Locations Nationwide Due To Crime & Inflation |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:53:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't see an issue? The rear door emergency manual door opener is just bad. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 9:59:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Releasing the new Model 3 and it not being eligible for the tax credit has to be a significant contributor to their demand issues. Maybe not. Model 3 sales may not be high regardless of the tax credit that should be ended for all EVs. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:02:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be interesting to watch smaller EV manufacturers, like Rivian and Lucid. Rivian is eliminating a shift. Evidently EV's are no longer a "growth" business. I keep reading that but would like to see consumer sales data to support it. Note that EVs produced but sitting on lots awaiting purchase should not be counted in end user sales figures. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:07:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A motor and transmission in a $60k Sprinter would be somewhere around $50k. As in more than the car is worth the day you drive it off the lot. An engine and transmission hasn't been $5k since 1979 or so. Vehicles are disposable after warranty. ICE/EV/diesel/poptart powered. Buy, warranty, sell. If it has value at the end, good. Maybe it doesn't. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Releasing the new Model 3 and it not being eligible for the tax credit has to be a significant contributor to their demand issues. Yep, that was pants on head retarded. Not having the Model Y Juniper ready to go was also an amazingly retarded move. Elon could cut the price of FSD (in half) and it would still be Way The F overpriced... |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:36:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s about 14,000 people. That’s a big layoff. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:40:40 AM EDT
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But I was told the economy is strong and everything is fine.
Run bull, run! |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:40:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryTesla dealer lots... They sell direct in Texas - there are no cars for sale at the dealer lots, ever. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:43:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to be interesting to watch smaller EV manufacturers, like Rivian and Lucid. Rivian is eliminating a shift. Evidently EV's are no longer a "growth" business. Rivian lost a hilarious amount of money in their last quarterly announcement. Like 4 billion...lol |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 10:55:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gee, didn't see competition coming. They’ve been ramping for YEARS. Cyber truck assembly line just started delivering. Optimal time to trim the fat |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:08:45 AM EDT
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Well, look who's posting about Tesla! Will this thread make it over three years like the last one did? Any day now!!
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:11:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Depends on the compensation package. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Crazy. I admire Elon, but sure wouldn't want to work for him. In Any capacity. Depends on the compensation package. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:18:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apple just laid off 600+ people from their CA location. More coming.. Tons of companies have been doing layoffs for the past 6-8 months. The media isn't talking about it much. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:18:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep reading that but would like to see consumer sales data to support it. Note that EVs produced but sitting on lots awaiting purchase should not be counted in end user sales figures. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's going to be interesting to watch smaller EV manufacturers, like Rivian and Lucid. Rivian is eliminating a shift. Evidently EV's are no longer a "growth" business. I keep reading that but would like to see consumer sales data to support it. Note that EVs produced but sitting on lots awaiting purchase should not be counted in end user sales figures.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:20:48 AM EDT
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Verizon is laying off a ton of people and moving their jobs to Ireland. Where are the articles and memes about that? Ahh yes, that's right their CEO is on the board of blackrock so we can't talk about that.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:21:19 AM EDT
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Ok, Tesla did halt Cybertruck deliveries for a week yesterday - missed that news. But halting delivery does not equal halting production.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:23:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a a battery reference? Sounds like a terminal reference to a highly charged situation. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:26:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Jobs ads actually state that salaried positions are expected to work late nights, weekends and holidays. In addition to your 9-5. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Crazy. I admire Elon, but sure wouldn't want to work for him. In Any capacity. Depends on the compensation package. That’s a fair and needed warning for a certain type of applicant which companies like Tesla and SpaceX tend to attract. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 11:33:23 AM EDT
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With Tesla there is plenty of demands to share the pain, sacrifice, change the world etc.. Rubber meets road and they are just like any other corporation, probably worse.
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:30:02 PM EDT
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Tesla has great deals on leased vehicles for employees. Tesla subsidizes about half the monthly lease payment on a ~36 month lease.
When an employee is terminated, Tesla's subsidy ends, and the employee is on the hook for the full lease payment.  'I have bills, I have a life' | Tesla workers left shocked after sudden layoffs at Austin factory |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:34:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, that was pants on head retarded. Not having the Model Y Juniper ready to go was also an amazingly retarded move. Elon could cut the price of FSD (in half) and it would still be Way The F overpriced... That just happened last week, at least for the subscription model....$199 / month to $99 / month. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:36:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla has great deals on leased vehicles for employees. Tesla subsidizes about half the monthly lease payment on a ~36 month lease. When an employee is terminated, Tesla's subsidy ends, and the employee is on the hook for the full lease payment.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2aLeoZlsbYHow is that news? It's a perk of employment....it's provided to employees....it's not surprising that someone who doesn't understand that is no longer employed. |
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Posted: 4/16/2024 12:39:47 PM EDT
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The whole EV thing has run its course for now, and it actually ran a lot longer because of .gov subsidies and mandates.
Made quite a few people wealthier along the way thanks to FJB spending a Trillion fucking dollars on the EV/green energy shell game. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 7:46:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What once was Positive is now Negative A shocking situation, to be sure. |
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Posted: 4/29/2024 12:37:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/29/2024 4:07:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just did Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This should be good for Tesla stock. Time to buy Just did Well I paid $165 for it on the 15th and watched it drop to 140 the next week and then it hit $195 today and I had to bail. Prob miss a $300 run as it will prob be $500 by mid summer but hey, 30 points and 18% isn’t bad for two weeks. I just regret not doubling down at 145. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:03:09 AM EDT
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Additional layoffs announced.
Their entire Supercharger team (500 employees) is being laid off. Most of their New Vehicles team is being laid off. https://electrek.co/2024/04/29/tesla-conducting-more-layoffs-including-entire-supercharger-team/ |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:09:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole EV thing has run its course for now, and it actually ran a lot longer because of .gov subsidies and mandates. Made quite a few people wealthier along the way thanks to FJB spending a Trillion fucking dollars on the EV/green energy shell game. It's good tech and worth of being developed, but at a natural rate instead of prematurely rammed down our throats by a moronic government. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 11:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well I paid $165 for it on the 15th and watched it drop to 140 the next week and then it hit $195 today and I had to bail. Prob miss a $300 run as it will prob be $500 by mid summer but hey, 30 points and 18% isn’t bad for two weeks. I just regret not doubling down at 145. and it's down $12 from where i sold yesterday. should i FO again? or too soon? ugh |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:08:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A motor and transmission in a $60k Sprinter would be somewhere around $50k. As in more than the car is worth the day you drive it off the lot. An engine and transmission hasn't been $5k since 1979 or so. Vehicles are disposable after warranty. ICE/EV/diesel/poptart powered. Buy, warranty, sell. If it has value at the end, good. Maybe it doesn't. There is easily 100% markup in that number. Is that dealer labor at $300/hr or something? A reman 3.0 sprinter diesel is 10K and 15 hours to R&R. So at $150/hour your 12ish for a new engine. If you are buying Mercedes crate motors you're getting fucked. I mean if you own a Mercedes you're getting fucked but I digress... |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 12:36:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole EV thing has run its course for now, and it actually ran a lot longer because of .gov subsidies and mandates. Made quite a few people wealthier along the way thanks to FJB spending a Trillion fucking dollars on the EV/green energy shell game. where would it be without gov subsidies and mandates? Meaning there is a lot more baked into the cost of a Tesla than the sticker price. |
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Posted: 4/30/2024 6:19:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's bug fuck nuts. There is easily 100% markup in that number. Is that dealer labor at $300/hr or something? A reman 3.0 sprinter diesel is 10K and 15 hours to R&R. So at $150/hour your 12ish for a new engine. If you are buying Mercedes crate motors you're getting fucked. I mean if you own a Mercedes you're getting fucked but I digress... Diesel tech labor rate at the stealership is $285 an hour where I live. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 9:05:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Diesel tech labor rate at the stealership is $285 an hour where I live. Is that just diesel stuff or is that shop rate for everything? Diesels aren't any more difficult to work on that gas engines. Hell I'd rather work on a diesel. Merc is fucking someone hard and dry. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 4:22:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok...still. Is that just diesel stuff or is that shop rate for everything? Diesels aren't any more difficult to work on that gas engines. Hell I'd rather work on a diesel. Merc is fucking someone hard and dry. Just diesel. I can't remember what the gas labor rate is, but I know it's a bit cheaper than the diesel guys. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:06:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:12:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Gee, didn't see competition coming. They are trying to help their competition with open patents among other moves. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:26:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla products are selling fine. They are a niche item and will never be the universal mainstream vehicle...but in their area, they are ideal to the limits of current tech. They are 4.2% of the US car market. More market share than Subaru. |
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Posted: 5/6/2024 12:34:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok...still. Is that just diesel stuff or is that shop rate for everything? Diesels aren't any more difficult to work on that gas engines. Hell I'd rather work on a diesel. Merc is fucking someone hard and dry. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Diesel tech labor rate at the stealership is $285 an hour where I live. Is that just diesel stuff or is that shop rate for everything? Diesels aren't any more difficult to work on that gas engines. Hell I'd rather work on a diesel. Merc is fucking someone hard and dry. P20ee/207f what’s your first move |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:11:04 PM EDT
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Now in the 4th week of job cuts. So many managers have been fired - Elon Musk now has 35 people reporting to him.
https://www.businessinsider.com/more-tesla-layoffs-workers-post-2024-5 |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:15:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: P20ee/207f what's your first move Shitty DEF is a thing so are bad sensors. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:19:11 PM EDT
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Whelp on the Civil Construction side the chopped about 55 employees but they had way too many that we dealt with. Overall construction of the new Data Facilites and manufacturing buildings is full steam.
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:21:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Tesla deliveries for the past ~18 months are flat. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126713/temp_jpg-3189455.JPG Thanks. That is excellent data. Does your source allow going back perhaps another three years? Maybe the "growth spurt" has reached an equilibrium point. In other words, they are at their long-term sales point until subsidies end and US regulations forcing EVs end. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:31:05 PM EDT
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Elon's got a marketing problem, Tesla is now the left's Bud light.
Laugh at them, but from a business perspective people who think climate change is a big issue are an important segment of the EV market, while Elon has become a conservative activist online, so now they are not going to buy his cars I own a Tesla, I like the convenience of charging it in my garage, and I like the acceleration and honestly I like the tech based concepts (bit of a nerd). But I can't see how Tesla is going to survive by alienating its customers. CEO's should probably try and stay out of politics and just focus on delivering products people want. |
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Posted: 5/7/2024 2:35:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Elon's got a marketing problem, Tesla is now the left's Bud light. Laugh at them, but from a business perspective people who think climate change is a big issue are an important segment of the EV market, while Elon has become a conservative activist online, so now they are not going to buy his cars I own a Tesla, I like the convenience of charging it in my garage, and I like the acceleration and honestly I like the tech based concepts (bit of a nerd). But I can't see how Tesla is going to survive by alienating its customers. CEO's should probably try and stay out of politics and just focus on delivering products people want. |
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