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Posted: 4/4/2024 12:22:03 PM EDT
We have two teasers so far:





Based on the Taco, we know this will be on the new TNGA platform, and it'll have the 2.4L turbo, most likely with a hybrid option.

How will this split the market with the new Land Cruiser we're getting? Good question. It has to be cheaper, and that might be a tight squeeze with the LC starting at $55k.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2025-toyota-4runner-keeps-drop-down-back-glass-hybrid-power-teased

Also, if you want to be the original owner of a pre-ban model, this is your last call.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 1:01:54 PM EDT
[#1]
I've been tracking this a bit...apparently it will be the new Tacoma with a back on it (mechanically)
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:02:39 PM EDT
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The 4Runner and Tacoma have been closely related for much of their existence. The 3rd gen Tacoma was a divergence, but now the pendulum is going back the other direction.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:04:44 PM EDT
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Rear window goes down, it's the only thing that matters.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:05:10 PM EDT
[#4]
I will forever miss my '03 4Runner Limited, 4.7 V8, had it 17 years
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:05:46 PM EDT
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Toyota is moving everything to the tgna-f platform, so there will be quite the bit of similarities between all of their framed vehicles. More so than we've seen over the past few years, at least.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:11:07 PM EDT
[#6]
I have been waiting for this literally for 10 years! Bought my 2015 Limited back then after realizing Toyota was nowhere new close to a redesign.

My 2015 is still in excellent shape so I don't need a replacement but I will look closely at the new model for a potential future purchase. Although now I am old enough I will be looking at the new Lexus GX too.

And agreed, way to go Toyota on keeping a roll down window!
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:14:21 PM EDT
[#7]
I haven't been able to wear my 1987 4Runner out yet.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:14:21 PM EDT
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Mine gets used almost daily from April to October.

The trick is to only open it 4" or so and close it above 50 MPH so you don't get the interior extremely dusty in a single drive.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:16:54 PM EDT
[#9]
That’s a two door.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:18:02 PM EDT
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Glad this is out, MANY will be relieved.

Especially after the GX 550 debuted with the horribly disappointing rear glass on opening struts.

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@mblades !!

Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:18:53 PM EDT
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Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:19:27 PM EDT
[#12]
Not a fan of the huge tablet display.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:21:59 PM EDT
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Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?
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That’s a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?


Not much depth on the interior. Could be a long lens causing compression.

There is also a snorkel, fwiw.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:22:19 PM EDT
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If it’s based on the Tacoma, any chance of there being a manual transmission available?
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:22:41 PM EDT
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That giant screen sucks.

Please no fucking tiny engines with turbos or hybrid bullshit.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:23:35 PM EDT
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That giant screen sucks.

Please no fucking tiny engines with turbos or hybrid bullshit.
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Sorry you're getting both.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:25:51 PM EDT
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:25:54 PM EDT
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Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?
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That's a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?

Two door could be available if assembled at  >TMMGT< in Mexico, with Tacomas. No chicken tax.

But muh "J" VIN

Really you want Tahara and not that shit Hino factory at Hamura but nobody even realized


Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:29:23 PM EDT
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Not much depth on the interior. Could be a long lens causing compression.

There is also a snorkel, fwiw.
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That’s a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?


Not much depth on the interior. Could be a long lens causing compression.

There is also a snorkel, fwiw.


I didn't catch the snorkel.

Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:32:31 PM EDT
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I bet there is already rust around that rear garnish.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:32:32 PM EDT
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I didn't catch the snorkel.

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That's a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?


Not much depth on the interior. Could be a long lens causing compression.

There is also a snorkel, fwiw.


I didn't catch the snorkel.


Did you catch the license plate?

Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:33:23 PM EDT
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Glad this is out, MANY will be relieved.

Especially after the GX 550 debuted with the horribly disappointing rear glass on opening struts.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_7560_jpeg-3177927.JPG

@mblades !!

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Rear window goes down, it's the only thing that matters.


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Glad this is out, MANY will be relieved.

Especially after the GX 550 debuted with the horribly disappointing rear glass on opening struts.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_7560_jpeg-3177927.JPG

@mblades !!


Old GX was quite similar.  
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:34:56 PM EDT
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Roll down rear window
Bigger screen is nice if the upgraded map software is worth it
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:35:03 PM EDT
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Two door could be available if assembled at  >TMMGT< in Mexico, with Tacomas. No chicken tax.

But muh "J" VIN

Really you want Tahara and not that shit Hino factory at Hamura but nobody even realized


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That's a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?

Two door could be available if assembled at  >TMMGT< in Mexico, with Tacomas. No chicken tax.

But muh "J" VIN

Really you want Tahara and not that shit Hino factory at Hamura but nobody even realized




I think production location and price are the two biggest questions.

We (most likely) know all the architectural stuff, and we have a pretty good idea what it will look like.

The LC starts at $55k, and the base model includes full time 4WD with center and rear lockers.

The 5th gen 4Runner tops out at $55k with the TRD Pro, the Limited behind that at $50k, and the ORP at $47k.

A generation change often comes with a big price increase, especially when there's so much new tech.

Unless they manage to keep the pricing very similar, there's going to be overlap with the LC.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:35:39 PM EDT
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Two door could be available if assembled at  >TMMGT< in Mexico, with Tacomas. No chicken tax.

But muh "J" VIN

Really you want Tahara and not that shit Hino factory at Hamura but nobody even realized


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Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:37:08 PM EDT
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2.4 turbo won’t be able to tow shit besides a bass boat.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:40:00 PM EDT
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Sorry you're getting both.
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That giant screen sucks.

Please no fucking tiny engines with turbos or hybrid bullshit.


Sorry you're getting both.


Electric hybrid I'd bet in the Pro model at least.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:40:34 PM EDT
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Did you catch the license plate?

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That's a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?


Not much depth on the interior. Could be a long lens causing compression.

There is also a snorkel, fwiw.


I didn't catch the snorkel.


Did you catch the license plate?



I did not.

I also don't know what it means.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:41:39 PM EDT
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Roll down rear window https://media.tenor.com/bm8Q6yAlsPsAAAAj/verified.gif
Bigger screen is nice if the upgraded map software is worth it https://media.tenor.com/bm8Q6yAlsPsAAAAj/verified.gif
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Apple Car Play/Android Auto is the near permanent answer to this problem.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:43:51 PM EDT
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That is all the current engine is good for too.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:46:13 PM EDT
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The anemic V6 cannot tow much more. I had a 99 limited that got horrible fuel mileage and was weak as hell. That was my one complaint of that truck. I’d love to have another clean 3rd gen.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:46:55 PM EDT
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Apparently, most of the midsize truck class didn't get that memo.

Ranger: 2.3
Colorado/Canyon: 2.7
Tacoma: 2.4
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:47:43 PM EDT
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The TRD-Pro always comes in the cutest colors.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:51:42 PM EDT
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Magnuson can fix that 6
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:52:25 PM EDT
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I think production location and price are the two biggest questions.

We (most likely) know all the architectural stuff, and we have a pretty good idea what it will look like.

The LC starts at $55k, and the base model includes full time 4WD with center and rear lockers.

The 5th gen 4Runner tops out at $55k with the TRD Pro, the Limited behind that at $50k, and the ORP at $47k.

A generation change often comes with a big price increase, especially when there's so much new tech.

Unless they manage to keep the pricing very similar, there's going to be overlap with the LC.
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That's a two door.


Interesting theory.

No back seat is visible, but it could be folded down.

There's an OS handle visible on the passenger side, but I can't distinguish if it's on the A pillar or B pillar.

What are you keying in on?

Two door could be available if assembled at  >TMMGT< in Mexico, with Tacomas. No chicken tax.

But muh "J" VIN

Really you want Tahara and not that shit Hino factory at Hamura but nobody even realized




I think production location and price are the two biggest questions.

We (most likely) know all the architectural stuff, and we have a pretty good idea what it will look like.

The LC starts at $55k, and the base model includes full time 4WD with center and rear lockers.

The 5th gen 4Runner tops out at $55k with the TRD Pro, the Limited behind that at $50k, and the ORP at $47k.

A generation change often comes with a big price increase, especially when there's so much new tech.

Unless they manage to keep the pricing very similar, there's going to be overlap with the LC.

It's GA-F and T24A and i-FORCE MAX (I h8 mfg labeling anymore). Price - I go entry at SR5 trim, base between $42-$44k. Purely WAG. Crossover at the top with LC 250.

The question is the designation, which I'm unable to answer. Nor confirm production facility. But that will be known soon enough.

There won't be any 2TR or 1GD like the Prado and LC 250 tho. Manual? Ayada has it right.




Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:54:29 PM EDT
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We still have our 06 Sport.  Lifted and and TRD rims.  120k on it and its a beast in the winter
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 2:54:43 PM EDT
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I cant afford these things any more

Last truck I bought was a 2019 Tundra Pro for 43,000

Now they are 80 to 100,000 for one
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I did not.

I also don't know what it means.
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The few who do are laughing at us

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Recall this. It's probably similar. I h8 Easter Eggs too


Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:01:52 PM EDT
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I haven't played around with it too much but the newer Toyota software is decent enough, they've certainly taken some lessons from their older attempts.

And when it doesn't work, like you said there are options to solve it. Unless you are buying a Chevy.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:03:24 PM EDT
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These have been out a bit -  weren't mules and probably tell us some things as well. Maybe.  


Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:03:29 PM EDT
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If you know, you know
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:07:54 PM EDT
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My 97 has 250k miles on it and still runs like a champ. No leaks or oil burning and the compression is still 90% of what a new 5vzfe engine spec is.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:13:20 PM EDT
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We gave our 2004 4Runner to my wife's nephew 9 years ago and it's still going strong.
I was thinking about upgrading my 2016 V6 Accord to the next gen 4Runner, but I think I'll pass.
A 2.4L turbo?
Nah.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:14:46 PM EDT
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We gave our 2004 4Runner to my wife's nephew 9 years ago and it's still going strong.
I was thinking about upgrading my 2016 V6 Accord to the next gen 4Runner, but I think I'll pass.
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Nah.
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You've still got a year to pick up a 4.0, and if your heart is stuck on wanting old school NA goodness time isn't exactly on your hands.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:14:49 PM EDT
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I have a 2010 4Runner with 205K. I've become a real believer.

Can't wait to get another. I have faith they won't screw anything up.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:16:19 PM EDT
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Looks like Cavalry Blue. Had the 2018 but sold it during Covid.
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Rear window goes down, it's the only thing that matters.


/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/this-gif-793.gif

Glad this is out, MANY will be relieved.

Especially after the GX 550 debuted with the horribly disappointing rear glass on opening struts.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/14291/IMG_7560_jpeg-3177927.JPG

@mblades !!


Old GX was quite similar.  

Yea. J150 was side hinged tho. Overhead hinge gave an opportunity - but it's a world model so. . . Least J250 still has great access


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Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:18:54 PM EDT
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I wish we got the 2.8 turbo the new 70's are getting.

All reviews show better towing than the 4.5L V8 in their market.
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:21:43 PM EDT
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Nice. I'm loving my 2020 4Runner. Could maybe see trading the wife's 2012 IS250 in for one of these if the Hybrid MPG is good enough to give me the excuse to do it
Link Posted: 4/4/2024 3:21:57 PM EDT
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It's likely their 'Heritage Blue' color that they've been throwing out, a bit more faded than Calvary.
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