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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:01:20 PM EST

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Your responses are a variation of your past ones in NRA threads. The wording might be changed, but the effect is the same.

I will give you that the vast majority of gun owners are lazy fucks. I'm not, I'm constantly on all of my state politicians, from the Gov on down as well as my Federal ones.

I belong to the Indiana State Rifle and Pistol Ass, who has been a very effective group.

So I do my part...I would like the group that have have a Lifetime membership with to do theirs in states like FL, where it's needed.

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How are they canned responses? I just typed that response up a moment ago. Like it or not the NRA is best out there now. I've encouraged people to join other organizations and show the NRA how things should be done, after all 95% of gun owners do not belong to any type of organization. It should be very easy to build up a new pro-gun organization, especially since you all claim the NRA is terrible at everything.

I don't care what national organization people join, just join one. Everyone should also belong to a state level organization. Gun owners need to get off their lazy butts and get more involved. Right now 5% of gun owners are carrying the water for the other 95%. That 5% isn't just the NRA that is all pro-gun organizations combined. Where are the other 95% of gun owners?

Your responses are a variation of your past ones in NRA threads. The wording might be changed, but the effect is the same.

I will give you that the vast majority of gun owners are lazy fucks. I'm not, I'm constantly on all of my state politicians, from the Gov on down as well as my Federal ones.

I belong to the Indiana State Rifle and Pistol Ass, who has been a very effective group.

So I do my part...I would like the group that have have a Lifetime membership with to do theirs in states like FL, where it's needed.

That is sadly the truth....

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:03:30 PM EST

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This is right before our Primary Elections. It can very much have an effect on the incumbents fighting for their seats in the Legislature.

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Honestly curious - when was the last time the NRA actually hosted a rally?

Why would they do that? Rally's are not effective and at best they are preaching to the choir. What changed after the April 14th pro-gun rally that every single state had? Nothing. Florida had one and it had a decent size crowd but still attracted less than 0.01% of gun owners...which is why they are not effective!

Politicians react to voters who support them or stop supporting them. There are lots of issues that can be dealt when and when one issue only brings out 0.001% of those involved in that issue...well the politicians tend not to care.

This is right before our Primary Elections. It can very much have an effect on the incumbents fighting for their seats in the Legislature.

It might have effect on how the candidates spin things. The pro-gun candidates should be begging to speak so that they can get their message out, especially if the incumbent was one that sold out gun owners recently.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:04:53 PM EST

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I totally agree with the NRA not being at the rally. Their presence would only be a lightening rod for the anti-gun crowd to move in and disrupt the event. The NRA does their work in the halls of Congress and in the courtroom, this is where they can do the most good. Its our job to be in the voting booth, working for pro-gun candidates and to be the face of the NRA in the communities.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:08:09 PM EST

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As a member for a period of time longer in my life than I haven't been one. I think Inhave the right to criticize them and expect better results afterthe continual failure that they have shown in FL.

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I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:19:11 PM EST

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I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

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As a member for a period of time longer in my life than I haven't been one. I think Inhave the right to criticize them and expect better results afterthe continual failure that they have shown in FL.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:20:44 PM EST

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NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

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Where was that from? Good on you, they need to know.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:21:47 PM EST

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NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

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As a member for a period of time longer in my life than I haven't been one. I think Inhave the right to criticize them and expect better results afterthe continual failure that they have shown in FL.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

Nice. Was that about a post here or about the articles you are writing?

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:25:41 PM EST

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NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

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As a member for a period of time longer in my life than I haven't been one. I think Inhave the right to criticize them and expect better results afterthe continual failure that they have shown in FL.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

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" . . . the truth that I continue to uncover."

You view yourself as a crusader. In actuality you are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. "Everyone but me SUCKS!!" is not a winning message. If you can't/won't work with others you will be 100% ineffective, while making your stand that the NRA is only ~80% effective and sucks because of it.

Your heart is in the right place--but your tactics are 180* out of phase.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:28:01 PM EST

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Senator Galvano (R) is the guythat authored the gun control bill that passed and was signed into law by Gov. Scott (R). He will be the Senate President this coming legislative session. That means he'll control where and what bills are heard and what committees that happen in along with the makeup of those committees.

We have a hard fight ahead of us with the GOPe.

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I guess it isn't Hammer time

Good Luck Fl. With the RINO's fucking you over, you gonna need it.

Senator Galvano (R) is the guythat authored the gun control bill that passed and was signed into law by Gov. Scott (R). He will be the Senate President this coming legislative session. That means he'll control where and what bills are heard and what committees that happen in along with the makeup of those committees.

We have a hard fight ahead of us with the GOPe.

I understand Broseph. Red Ralph's panties are so wet thinking of what he will get to sign when the commie's take Va's legislature in '19.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:29:50 PM EST

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Ah yes, lets not ever leave any opportunity to beat the dead horse and bash NRA.

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I don't agree that saying the "NRA not showing up" to what appears to be a significant pro gun rally is bashing them. He posted a list of speakers and before anyone could ask if the NRA is going to be there he answered them ahead of time.
This is the first I've heard of this rally and I live 6 hours away but if I by chance somehow manage to bring me and my family to this event and the NRA is not there then fuck the NRA. Seems reasonable.
I'm also going to purchase another Kel-Tec to support the company that is supporting Mark Keith Robinson besause regardless of anything the NRA does or doesn't do "I AM THE MAJORITY".

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:32:31 PM EST

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" . . . the truth that I continue to uncover."

You view yourself as a crusader. In actuality you are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. "Everyone but me SUCKS!!" is not a winning message. If you can't/won't work with others you will be 100% ineffective, while making your stand that the NRA is only ~80% effective and sucks because of it.

Your heart is in the right place--but your tactics are 180* out of phase.

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As a member for a period of time longer in my life than I haven't been one. I think Inhave the right to criticize them and expect better results afterthe continual failure that they have shown in FL.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that. What does ranting on the internet do to solve that though? Do you think the NRA reads your posts and will fire Marion because of it? No.

Florida gun owners need to join a Florida state organization and that state organization needs to demand the NRA's leadership's attention. Then they can make the case as a collective group of gun owners to the people who can actually make change happen.

NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

https://i.imgur.com/PLSNivF.jpg

" . . . the truth that I continue to uncover."

You view yourself as a crusader. In actuality you are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. "Everyone but me SUCKS!!" is not a winning message. If you can't/won't work with others you will be 100% ineffective, while making your stand that the NRA is only ~80% effective and sucks because of it.

Your heart is in the right place--but your tactics are 180* out of phase.

When Marion Hammer decides to act like Bama-Shooter's NRA Rep and not insult members. I'll change my tune. When they decide to stop endorsing gun grabbers. I'll change my tune.

Same with the GOP.

NRA is backing Cagle

At least President Trump sees the truth....

He endorsed Cagle's GOP Primary rival.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:35:47 PM EST

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I don't agree that saying the "NRA not showing up" to what appears to be a significant pro gun rally is bashing them. He posted a list of speakers and before anyone could ask if the NRA is going to be there he answered them ahead of time.
This is the first I've heard of this rally and I live 6 hours away but if I by chance somehow manage to bring me and my family to this event and the NRA is not there then fuck the NRA. Seems reasonable.
I'm also going to purchase another Kel-Tec to support the company that is supporting Mark Keith Robinson besause regardless of anything the NRA does or doesn't do "I AM THE MAJORITY".
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Ah yes, lets not ever leave any opportunity to beat the dead horse and bash NRA.

Honestly, you're tainting the 2a support and large gathering with infighting, bravo.

I don't agree that saying the "NRA not showing up" to what appears to be a significant pro gun rally is bashing them. He posted a list of speakers and before anyone could ask if the NRA is going to be there he answered them ahead of time.
This is the first I've heard of this rally and I live 6 hours away but if I by chance somehow manage to bring me and my family to this event and the NRA is not there then fuck the NRA. Seems reasonable.
I'm also going to purchase another Kel-Tec to support the company that is supporting Mark Keith Robinson besause regardless of anything the NRA does or doesn't do "I AM THE MAJORITY".
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337854/IMG_5559_JPG-515325.jpg

No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. Of course, we live in the age of emotions and feeling good, so have at it.

Let's try this--what benefit will there be from this, or any other, rally? What will it accomplish? What could the NRA accomplish by spending scarce funds to attend? Politicians 100% ignore this sort of thing (save for those running, and courting the "gun people" vote, and use it for a campaign event), so don't use that.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:45:08 PM EST

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THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING! THE RUSSIANS ARE COMING!

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:50:10 PM EST

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" . . . the truth that I continue to uncover."

You view yourself as a crusader. In actuality you are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. "Everyone but me SUCKS!!" is not a winning message. If you can't/won't work with others you will be 100% ineffective, while making your stand that the NRA is only ~80% effective and sucks because of it.

Your heart is in the right place--but your tactics are 180* out of phase.

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They only do bad things some of the time, so we should never call them out on anything is a terrible stance to take.

The apologists like you are why I've let my membership in the NRA lapse (not that they care). Attacking Miami in every NRA related thread, telling him he's not helping by fighting the fight that NRA refuses to do is sad.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:52:26 PM EST

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They only do bad things some of the time, so we should never call them out on anything is a terrible stance to take.

The apologists like you are why I've let my membership in the NRA lapse (not that they care). Attacking Miami in every NRA related thread, telling him he's not helping by fighting the fight that NRA refuses to do is sad.

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" . . . the truth that I continue to uncover."

You view yourself as a crusader. In actuality you are to gun rights what the Westboro Baptist Church is to Christianity. "Everyone but me SUCKS!!" is not a winning message. If you can't/won't work with others you will be 100% ineffective, while making your stand that the NRA is only ~80% effective and sucks because of it.

Your heart is in the right place--but your tactics are 180* out of phase.

They only do bad things some of the time, so we should never call them out on anything is a terrible stance to take.

The apologists like you are why I've let my membership in the NRA lapse (not that they care). Attacking Miami in every NRA related thread, telling him he's not helping by fighting the fight that NRA refuses to do is sad.

Well, as long as we have him as a one man army, and you as a quitter, we will surely win! Soldier on!

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:54:19 PM EST

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

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Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:54:22 PM EST

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Well, as long as we have him as a one man army, and you as a quitter, we will surely win! Soldier on!

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Posted: 7/19/2018 12:56:40 PM EST

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Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

Posted: 7/19/2018 12:59:00 PM EST

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No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. .

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Someone forgot to tell all the minorities and gays or the folks who got the bumb stocks banned that little tidbit.

If we bitch on here, we know about it, if we bitch on the street, everyone knows about it.

Miami,
Why Hickok? Didn’t he openly support the bump ban?

While reading this I was thinking they are still never getting another penny from me until they get their shit straight and then I remembered my Amazon was set up for them. I just changed it.

They get 50G a month from amazon alone.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:01:39 PM EST

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Someone forgot to tell all the minorities and gays or the folks who got the bumb stocks banned that little tidbit.

If we bitch on here, we know about it, if we bitch on the street, everyone knows about it.

Miami,
Why Hickok? Didn’t he openly support the bump ban?

While reading this I was thinking they are still never getting another penny from me until they get their shit straight and then I remembered my Amazon was set up for them. I just changed it.

They get 50G a month from amazon alone.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/738EBC36-6666-4FB2-9215-445199C7A920-612869.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/EAA0E436-74E7-4827-9831-338A19740540-612871.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/03401E88-1FE3-42AF-ADCE-9F7180D97F5C-612873.jpg

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No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. .

Someone forgot to tell all the minorities and gays or the folks who got the bumb stocks banned that little tidbit.

If we bitch on here, we know about it, if we bitch on the street, everyone knows about it.

Miami,
Why Hickok? Didn’t he openly support the bump ban?

While reading this I was thinking they are still never getting another penny from me until they get their shit straight and then I remembered my Amazon was set up for them. I just changed it.

They get 50G a month from amazon alone.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/738EBC36-6666-4FB2-9215-445199C7A920-612869.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/EAA0E436-74E7-4827-9831-338A19740540-612871.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32167/03401E88-1FE3-42AF-ADCE-9F7180D97F5C-612873.jpg

That'll teach 'em! Of course, I bet (without googling) you don't know what the NRA Foundation does. Hint: builds ranges, among other things.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:03:05 PM EST

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That'll teach 'em! Of course, I bet (without googling) you don't know what the NRA Foundation does. Hint: builds ranges, among other things.

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I thought it was the “legal branch” actually.

I switched it do it goes for scholarships for KIA spec ops kids.
I don’t feel bad about that.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:04:11 PM EST

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I hope y'all get a good turnout. Hopefully more gun owners will become more active in the movement.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:07:17 PM EST

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GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:09:21 PM EST

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No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. Of course, we live in the age of emotions and feeling good, so have at it.

Let's try this--what benefit will there be from this, or any other, rally? What will it accomplish? What could the NRA accomplish by spending scarce funds to attend? Politicians 100% ignore this sort of thing (save for those running, and courting the "gun people" vote, and use it for a campaign event), so don't use that.

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Ah yes, lets not ever leave any opportunity to beat the dead horse and bash NRA.

Honestly, you're tainting the 2a support and large gathering with infighting, bravo.

I don't agree that saying the "NRA not showing up" to what appears to be a significant pro gun rally is bashing them. He posted a list of speakers and before anyone could ask if the NRA is going to be there he answered them ahead of time.
This is the first I've heard of this rally and I live 6 hours away but if I by chance somehow manage to bring me and my family to this event and the NRA is not there then fuck the NRA. Seems reasonable.
I'm also going to purchase another Kel-Tec to support the company that is supporting Mark Keith Robinson besause regardless of anything the NRA does or doesn't do "I AM THE MAJORITY".
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/337854/IMG_5559_JPG-515325.jpg

No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. Of course, we live in the age of emotions and feeling good, so have at it.

Let's try this--what benefit will there be from this, or any other, rally? What will it accomplish? What could the NRA accomplish by spending scarce funds to attend? Politicians 100% ignore this sort of thing (save for those running, and courting the "gun people" vote, and use it for a campaign event), so don't use that.

I know right.... rallies and marches are just feel good nothing burger events right?

These guys just wasted their time.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:15:59 PM EST

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They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Link to your GOA thread please.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:17:55 PM EST

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No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. Of course, we live in the age of emotions and feeling good, so have at it.

Let's try this--what benefit will there be from this, or any other, rally? What will it accomplish? What could the NRA accomplish by spending scarce funds to attend? Politicians 100% ignore this sort of thing (save for those running, and courting the "gun people" vote, and use it for a campaign event), so don't use that.

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Meh. I'm on Miami's side. You don't know who it affects unless you're The Shadow, and you can see into their hearts and minds. Maybe 100% of politicians will completely disregard it. Maybe some will look at it and ask themselves if the people who attend this kind of thing aren't a voting block worth courting. Maybe there will be thousands of gun owners who read about the rally, or see it in the news media, and convince themselves that it's finally time they get up off their asses and work FOR something instead of being lazy fucks. Maybe there will be an anti-gun politician who sees the rally and puts some proposed legislation on the back burner for fear of alienating thousands of voters. You don't know. You're just speculating.

As for "why should the NRA spend scarce funds to attend"...

It's her Goddamn job! She gets paid over $300K per year, JUST to do shit like this. I swear, if I could make her salary for doing zero actual work, you're damn straight I'd find the time to go out and mingle with people once in a Goddamn while.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:19:45 PM EST

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Link to your GOA thread please.

There isn't one because I don't donate to them.

I'm a NRA LIFE MEMBER. I will criticize the NRA when they do stupid with my money. The GOA doesn't get donations from me. But I sure will look at them for being retards when they do stupid shit. My dollar is precious and few.... NRA, FL CARRY, SAF, and GOSA get my money.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:49:23 PM EST

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Hopefully there isn't a gun show in FL that day.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:51:19 PM EST

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There isn't one because I don't donate to them.

I'm a NRA LIFE MEMBER. I will criticize the NRA when they do stupid with my money. The GOA doesn't get donations from me. But I sure will look at them for being retards when they do stupid shit. My dollar is precious and few.... NRA, FL CARRY, SAF, and GOSA get my money.

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Link to your GOA thread please.

There isn't one because I don't donate to them.

I'm a NRA LIFE MEMBER. I will criticize the NRA when they do stupid with my money. The GOA doesn't get donations from me. But I sure will look at them for being retards when they do stupid shit. My dollar is precious and few.... NRA, FL CARRY, SAF, and GOSA get my money.

I'm not understanding here. You said you "go after" the GOA, then gave an example of something to go after--then you failed to go after them at all? Not even a thread on ARFCOM to "go after" them? That makes no sense.

You do every single thing you can to diminish the NRA, and even in this thread you got a guy to cease his NRA Foundation contributions through Amazon, even though that org has NOTHING to do with lobbying, etc. I guess mission accomplished.

Then you claim your real concern (carefully chosen word) is Marion Hammer. Has ONE person here defended her--ever? Ever?

Every post I've seen views her as a cancer within the org, and that is certainly my opinion. Yet your OP doesn't mention her at all, nor does the title. You are NOT "going after" her. I think you are blatantly disingenuous.

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:56:41 PM EST

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Honestly curious - when was the last time the NRA actually hosted a rally?

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A better question might be when was the last time that OP didn't create an evil NRA straw man to knock down.

Fortunately, it has no effect at all on reality; all attempts to degrade the NRA have failed and the membership keeps growing..

Posted: 7/19/2018 1:58:20 PM EST

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They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

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Wow.. that's a hell of a line up speaking.

I am a life member of the NRA, but more and more they have begun to piss me off.

Me and my wife's membership expired at the end of June, and 19 days later I'm still trying to convince myself to rejoin...

I've joined GOA and FPC as well.

GOA doesn't compromise, so we have nothing to worry about. Perhaps Miami_JBT will run for their board.

They aren't perfect and neither is NRA. When GOA fucks up I go after them. Larry Pratt was a fucking tool for being played by Ali G Sasha Cohen Disable Israeli Sniper Vet.

NRA plays a game of "WE'RE NUMBER ONE, SEND US MONEY" and the does nothing in FL. My main issue is Marion Hammer. She's NRA here in FL. But her ilk is elsewhere in the organization too and it needs a cleaning.

I want NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Every pro-gun organization plays the game of "they sky is falling send us money". When you are a one issue organization and people only care when they are in fear of losing something....the organization turns into a fear generator. Firearms Policy Coalition did a great job with their bump stock defense. I sent them money and signed up for their emails. Every single one of their email is fear and panic because the sky is falling and they need money.

I too want the NRA better, faster, tougher, and stronger.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:00:07 PM EST

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I know right.... rallies and marches are just feel good nothing burger events right?
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How many people did they have attend? 0.001% of the people that cared about this issue? If you can clog streets and shutdown business as usual in the surrounding area, then you get attention. If you have 200 people standing next to a building...they are not effective.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:03:03 PM EST

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I'm not understanding here. You said you "go after" the GOA, then gave an example of something to go after--then you failed to go after them at all? Not even a thread on ARFCOM to "go after" them? That makes no sense.

You do every single thing you can to diminish the NRA, and even in this thread you got a guy to cease his NRA Foundation contributions through Amazon, even though that org has NOTHING to do with lobbying, etc. I guess mission accomplished.

Then you claim your real concern (carefully chosen word) is Marion Hammer. Has ONE person here defended her--ever? Ever?

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He didn’t get me to do anything. I don’t think the fucking guy even likes me he never answers my questions.
We just agree on this and I made my own mind up after they started the bump stock shit here in FL.

All his thread did was remind me to check my amazon donations.
I put it to something I think will be a better use of my money.

I’m not fanatically anti NRA, I’m just done giving them money and support until they correct themselves.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:08:02 PM EST

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He didn’t get me to do anything. I don’t think the fucking guy even likes me he never answers my questions.
We just agree on this and I made my own mind up after they started the bump stock shit here in FL.

All his thread did was remind me to check my amazon donations.
I put it to something I think will be a better use of my money.

I’m not fanatically anti NRA, I’m just done giving them money and support until they correct themselves.

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I'm not understanding here. You said you "go after" the GOA, then gave an example of something to go after--then you failed to go after them at all? Not even a thread on ARFCOM to "go after" them? That makes no sense.

You do every single thing you can to diminish the NRA, and even in this thread you got a guy to cease his NRA Foundation contributions through Amazon, even though that org has NOTHING to do with lobbying, etc. I guess mission accomplished.

Then you claim your real concern (carefully chosen word) is Marion Hammer. Has ONE person here defended her--ever? Ever?

Every post I've seen views her as a cancer within the org, and that is certainly my opinion. Yet your OP doesn't mention her at all, nor does the title. You are NOT "going after" her. I think you are blatantly disingenuous.

He didn’t get me to do anything. I don’t think the fucking guy even likes me he never answers my questions.
We just agree on this and I made my own mind up after they started the bump stock shit here in FL.

All his thread did was remind me to check my amazon donations.
I put it to something I think will be a better use of my money.

I’m not fanatically anti NRA, I’m just done giving them money and support until they correct themselves.

Sounds like "mission accomplished" to me.

I do (sincerely) thank you for your past support.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:13:42 PM EST

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FWIW, the NRA Foundation funds the Junior program at our gun club.
Guns, ammo, shooting vests, mats, etc.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:15:25 PM EST

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Because they are weak and useless now.

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Posted: 7/19/2018 2:16:46 PM EST

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Sounds like "mission accomplished" to me.

I do (sincerely) thank you for your past support.

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Hopefully it works itself out, but for now I made a choice which I think is right for me.
You are on the other side of the fence from me, I don’t think you are a blind idiot or an enabler or whatever shit terms I could use against you because you don’t agree with me, or go full GD and accuse you of not supporting the children of heroic KIA of our nations best...
I just think we are two guys who made a choice that We disagree about.

It’s just freedom. It works both ways.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:18:15 PM EST

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Hopefully it works itself out, but for now I made a choice which I think is right for me.
You are on the other side of the fence from me, I don’t think you are a blind idiot or an enabler or whatever shit terms I could use against you because you don’t agree with me, or go full GD and accuse you of not supporting the children of heroic KIA of our nations best...
I just think we are two guys who made a choice that We disagree about.

It’s just freedom. It works both ways.

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Sounds like "mission accomplished" to me.

I do (sincerely) thank you for your past support.

Hopefully it works itself out, but for now I made a choice which I think is right for me.
You are on the other side of the fence from me, I don’t think you are a blind idiot or an enabler or whatever shit terms I could use against you because you don’t agree with me, or go full GD and accuse you of not supporting the children of heroic KIA of our nations best...
I just think we are two guys who made a choice that We disagree about.

It’s just freedom. It works both ways.

Posted: 7/19/2018 2:34:38 PM EST

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I'm a Life Member. The only way to change the operating principles of the NRA from what they are now into what we want them to be is to get pissed off enough that we vote the old guard out and vote in people who feel like we do. You got a problem with that?

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Posted: 7/19/2018 2:47:27 PM EST

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Sounds like "mission accomplished" to me.

I do (sincerely) thank you for your past support.

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I'm not understanding here. You said you "go after" the GOA, then gave an example of something to go after--then you failed to go after them at all? Not even a thread on ARFCOM to "go after" them? That makes no sense.

You do every single thing you can to diminish the NRA, and even in this thread you got a guy to cease his NRA Foundation contributions through Amazon, even though that org has NOTHING to do with lobbying, etc. I guess mission accomplished.

Then you claim your real concern (carefully chosen word) is Marion Hammer. Has ONE person here defended her--ever? Ever?

Every post I've seen views her as a cancer within the org, and that is certainly my opinion. Yet your OP doesn't mention her at all, nor does the title. You are NOT "going after" her. I think you are blatantly disingenuous.

He didn't get me to do anything. I don't think the fucking guy even likes me he never answers my questions.
We just agree on this and I made my own mind up after they started the bump stock shit here in FL.

All his thread did was remind me to check my amazon donations.
I put it to something I think will be a better use of my money.

I'm not fanatically anti NRA, I'm just done giving them money and support until they correct themselves.

Sounds like "mission accomplished" to me.

I do (sincerely) thank you for your past support.

I'm soooo anti NRA that I became a life member and my wife is one too now.

We even went to NRAAM again and wi be going next year.

We disagree on how to fix things. But we want to fix things.

I'm tired of being fucked over. Simple as that. Is my way brash? Yup. But with FL Politics. You have to be. Others states work differently. We are very much an Oligarchy and our system of government is much like a politburo.

Posted: 7/19/2018 3:15:41 PM EST

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No rally of any kind if "significant." It's feel-good nonsense, albeit harmless. Of course, we live in the age of emotions and feeling good, so have at it. We are both entitled to our own opinions and yours obviously differs greatly than mine regarding this.

Let's try this--what benefit will there be from this, or any other, rally? I have no idea. I attend rallies to support causes that I believe in. I have no involvement with those that promote or carry out rallies nor do I have any idea what their end goals are or what they intend on accomplishing. What will it accomplish? That seems a lot like your last question so see my previous response. What could the NRA accomplish by spending scarce funds to attend? Scarce funds? WHAT THE FUCK?! ARE YOU SERIOUS?! I do NOT claim to know what the NRA's annual budget looks like but I do know that their membership has increased dramatically since a horrific event that occurred at a high school IN FLORIDA, where this rally is set to take place I might add. I believe that it was reported that they set an NRA fundraising fucking record of 2.4 million dollars for the month of March alone! Obviously I'm not saying they could match the efforts made by firearms fucking juggernaut Kel-Tec but they could at least send somebody's ass to Tallassahee to speak into a microphone for 10 fucking minutes. I'm not even responding to anymore of your questions because that's about the dumbest shit I've read in a while. There I go, feeding the fucking troll again. Politicians 100% ignore this sort of thing (save for those running, and courting the "gun people" vote, and use it for a campaign event), so don't use that.

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Posted: 7/19/2018 3:50:47 PM EST

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I'm soooo anti NRA that I became a life member and my wife is one too now.

We even went to NRAAM again and wi be going next year.

We disagree on how to fix things. But we want to fix things.

I'm tired of being fucked over. Simple as that. Is my way brash? Yup. But with FL Politics. You have to be. Others states work differently. We are very much an Oligarchy and our system of government is much like a politburo.

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How about a little honesty here: your way is not "brash," your way is trash the NRA in post after post.
When you wished for a sniper rifle ban, were you telling the truth?

Posted: 7/19/2018 4:07:14 PM EST

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Funny and sad.

Posted: 7/19/2018 4:15:33 PM EST

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How about a little honesty here: your way is not "brash," your way is trash the NRA in post after post.
When you wished for a sniper rifle ban, were you telling the truth?

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I'm soooo anti NRA that I became a life member and my wife is one too now.

We even went to NRAAM again and wi be going next year.

We disagree on how to fix things. But we want to fix things.

I'm tired of being fucked over. Simple as that. Is my way brash? Yup. But with FL Politics. You have to be. Others states work differently. We are very much an Oligarchy and our system of government is much like a politburo.

How about a little honesty here: your way is not "brash," your way is trash the NRA in post after post.
When you wished for a sniper rifle ban, were you telling the truth?

Sniper rifle ban? WTF you talking about?

Posted: 7/19/2018 4:16:51 PM EST

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NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

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someone must have reported you, as the image has been removed

funny that

Posted: 7/19/2018 4:19:26 PM EST

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someone must have reported you, as the image has been removed

funny that

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NRA is aware of what I write and apparently are not pleased about the truth that I continue to uncover.

https://i.imgur.com/Amk6K9X.jpg

someone must have reported you, as the image has been removed

funny that

Strange

Posted: 7/19/2018 4:39:14 PM EST

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You realize the NRA is much larger than just politics right?

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You do realize that the only reason they are effective is due to their size and cash flow and the miss placed fear that liberals seem to have for the NRA. Don't get me wrong, I have a membership (not lifetime) and I do support them. And yes, they are the biggest pro gun group out there. But considering their size, I have seen very little action. Tons of facebook ads but little actual action from them. I will continue to support them because as long as they look like the big scary boogy man to the left, they will continue to be effective. Right now, perception from the left is all they have going for them.

Posted: 7/19/2018 5:08:02 PM EST

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Yet your OP doesn't mention her at all, nor does the title. You are NOT "going after" her. I think you are blatantly disingenuous.

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Pretty sure the OP wasn't intending to go after anyone. It was meant to advertise "The Big Pro Gun Rally" that mentioned no NRA rep would be there. Pretty sure it was the rest of the posters that asked why and thus here we are.

Posted: 7/19/2018 5:19:17 PM EST

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For the same reasons why they offer restrictions to law makers while sending out scary emails that restrictions are coming.

For the same reasons why they want to brag about a good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with a gun but they really don't want to be around that good guy.

Posted: 7/19/2018 5:46:53 PM EST

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I will be there again. most likely staying overnight this time, but I have days off to make it happen.

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