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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:38:04 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:39:01 PM EDT
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FFS.

I really mean it this time.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:39:22 PM EDT
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See I would, but I got my M4 Carbine stuck in a fishing net.

I still get a kick that they gave stickman his own sub forum after he left here all bent out of shape
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Well, this is going to sound like I'm being snarky, but I'm actually being serious.

They had run off so many SME's they were willing to give anyone with credentials a sub forum.

Just my humble opinion.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:39:47 PM EDT
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Free Sylvan
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:40:42 PM EDT
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We we haven't had one of these threads in almost 12-hours ....



I've been here 20-years, in the General Discussion for about 17-18 of those as moderator for a while and staff forever since.

What's not changed are the rules hear (much).

Users who think it's acceptable to violate rules 15 and 20 times have been around since the 1990's. They were just one or two years on the site when they got booted for failing to follow the community standards. Now it's THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT because it's now guys who have been here many many years and established themselves and made friends. They didn't think enough about the community nor their friends here to actually follow the rules. There might have been a 1-2% advance in the forum's rules (waiting for you to point out the egregious and heinous suppression of your ability to post here) in the last 20-years all due in reaction for something, shall we say, not good here?

In the close the 6000 or so reports I've handled the majority of them I've done NOTHING. The person reporting doesn't understand the conduct code nor the reasons behind the rules. Of the remaining minority of reports a majority of those get an edit and a poke i.e. [personal attack removed - Paul] which leaves that minority of a minority who get warnings.

A comment like "Fuck you Nic***83 and hope your mother fucking good-for-nothing, inbred family dies of painful cancer" is not going to get a simple edit and have a nice day. That's going to draw my attention and a well needed time-out.

So beyond giving knocks upside the head, being issued warnings, and timeouts we're out of tools. So if you've been knocked upside the head and continue to run your mouth you're going to find yourself awarded some warnings (which are a warning) and possibly some timeouts. Once you get a few of those and prove to us you don't care about our communities rules then you're in the >1% of people that earn a lock and that makes you a special kind of knucklehead. After the 4th or 50th time it's clear we're having difficulty communicating or you don't fucking care. We have run out of discipline at that point and either have to put up with the person's nonsense or not.

Normally we choose not to.

It seems what the majority of the 20-30 threads on this subject are asking for really is for the gentlemen's club to become more like a drunken locker room.

Go over there ---> and throw poop at each other, call each other names, insult family members, disrespect each other, get someone beat up or even shot ... and let the lawyers clean up your mess.

But count me out.

And I'm fine with that.
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And the warning you gave me falls under that?
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:41:37 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:42:28 PM EDT
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Funny how the Japanese men don't want to pound the pudding with these women, or at least pump them up
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:42:42 PM EDT
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For fuck's sake.

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This site is very quickly becoming a socialist gun website.
For fuck's sake.



And they said DK doesn’t have a sense of humor...

Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:42:53 PM EDT
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I am confused. Is this new site moderation a vast left wing or right wing conspiracy?
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Much like an elk, GD don’t know how many wings a penguin got.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:44:25 PM EDT
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See I would, but I got my M4 Carbine stuck in a fishing net.

I still get a kick that they gave stickman his own sub forum after he left here all bent out of shape
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I used to like Stickman. What happened?
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:45:29 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:46:50 PM EDT
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I used to like Stickman. What happened?
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See I would, but I got my M4 Carbine stuck in a fishing net.

I still get a kick that they gave stickman his own sub forum after he left here all bent out of shape
I used to like Stickman. What happened?
Him and Aimless got into it, Aimless provided facts so he got butthurt and left.

I think it was about being a site sponsor
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:47:26 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:47:57 PM EDT
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I still like it here but I also don’t post very much. GD is like /b/ without so many dick pics: if you can wade through all the bullshit there is great stuff to be seen on here.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:48:40 PM EDT
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If it's not thread topics, it's the death by a thousand cuts of our best members whose political ideologies don't fall in line with the Ministry of Truth's group think.

The recent passing of Bradders, has really brought home to me personally how many great members this site has driven away.

The pattern is clear and irrefutable, the pattern of banning only helps the leftist blue_troll agenda.

This site is very quickly becoming a socialist gun website.  That is something that I want nothing to do with.  I don't even consider myself a conservative, I just don't want to associate with socialists or socialist sympathizers.

I first discovered this site, in the early 2000s.  I read the content on here for 4-5 years before I even got an account to begin posting with.  I wasn't drawn to this site because of guns.  Frankly, unlike many here, firearms for me personally are a very small part of my life.

I was drawn to this website because of:

1)  The members and their amazing depth of knowledge, varying opinions and life experiences / advice.

2)  The free exchange and analysis of ideas, concepts and theories.

3)  The humor and banter that we once COULD have with each other.

4)  The sense of community we once had.  Let me explain this, there would be members calling each other some awful things online when they disagreed, but like the grown men we are, we would be over it 15 minutes later and helping each other with a build, or listening and advising each other about family or work problems.

It's a fact a life that men bond with each other through conflict.   Some of the members I like the most are guys I got into some really heated debates with.  Men lose their cool every once in a while during heated debates.  That's ok.  That's all part of the process.  We can't do this anymore because someone catches a banhammer in the bootyhole for something very benign and healthy.

The incremental censorship over the last 10-12 years has destroyed almost all of what makes ARFCOM, ARFCOM.

We need less rules not more.

Unless something massive is done to alter the course of this website, myself and a huge number of other members will be gone.

I will have nothing to do with a socialist gun website.  
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We're at a crises point here? Seriously?
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:49:09 PM EDT
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Indeed.

That said, I wonder how many of these threads we will have until staff and mods agree there is a problem, or Brownells wonders what they bought.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:50:10 PM EDT
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Conservative is relative. So, yes.
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Like those conservatives in China and the Soviet Union.
Conservative is relative. So, yes.
Neo-cons are consistent.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:50:17 PM EDT
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This is your real problem GD has gone downhill.

Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:50:25 PM EDT
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If he's gone can we use this thread for stuff like recipes?
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Russian Borscht Soup  

Ingredients600 grams beetroot grated
150 grams onion diced
250 grams carrot grated
500 grams cabbage shredded
600 grams potato diced
2 cloves garlic
2 tbsp tomato paste
2 tbsp vegetable oil
1 tbsp ground cumin
1 tsp cardamom
2 bay leaves
1 tsp thyme
1 tsp coriander dried
1 cube vegetable stock

Instructions
In a large pot, add water and let it boil. Then add half of the grated beetroot, cumin and cardamom and cook until beets become soft.
In a pan, add oil and cook onions until they're soft and translucent. Then add the garlic and cook for one more minute.
Add the grated carrot, and cook until the carrot is soft and tender.
Add the rest of the beetroot, followed by a 200 ml of either water or the beet soup that's being cooked in the pot. Add a vegetable stock cube to the liquid for extra flavour, along with the tomato paste. Cook the vegetables for a few minutes until the beets become soft.
At this point, you can remove the garlic cloves if you like. I usually just leave them.
Add the shredded cabbage to the pot, followed by the rest of the spices and let it cook until the cabbage becomes semi-tender. Then add the potatoes, and cook for 10 more minutes.
Finally, add the sauteed vegetables from the pan to the pot, cover the pot and cook until the potatoes are soft and tender.
Serve with a dollop of soy yogurt (you can use Smetana or sour cream if you don't follow a plant-based diet).
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:51:33 PM EDT
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I guess I am literally Stalin now.
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For fuck's sake.

Hey now, anything we don't agree with is the socialist boogeyman. Make your peace with it and move on.
I guess I am literally Stalin now.
I picture more of a smooth Elvis type than Stalin.



Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:51:37 PM EDT
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For fuck's sake.

Hey now, anything we don't agree with is the socialist boogeyman. Make your peace with it and move on.
I guess I am literally Stalin now.
I can’t believe I went shooting with Stalin
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:52:12 PM EDT
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And the warning you gave me falls under that?
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We we haven't had one of these threads in almost 12-hours ....



I've been here 20-years, in the General Discussion for about 17-18 of those as moderator for a while and staff forever since.

What's not changed are the rules hear (much).

Users who think it's acceptable to violate rules 15 and 20 times have been around since the 1990's. They were just one or two years on the site when they got booted for failing to follow the community standards. Now it's THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT because it's now guys who have been here many many years and established themselves and made friends. They didn't think enough about the community nor their friends here to actually follow the rules. There might have been a 1-2% advance in the forum's rules (waiting for you to point out the egregious and heinous suppression of your ability to post here) in the last 20-years all due in reaction for something, shall we say, not good here?

In the close the 6000 or so reports I've handled the majority of them I've done NOTHING. The person reporting doesn't understand the conduct code nor the reasons behind the rules. Of the remaining minority of reports a majority of those get an edit and a poke i.e. [personal attack removed - Paul] which leaves that minority of a minority who get warnings.

A comment like "Fuck you Nic***83 and hope your mother fucking good-for-nothing, inbred family dies of painful cancer" is not going to get a simple edit and have a nice day. That's going to draw my attention and a well needed time-out.

So beyond giving knocks upside the head, being issued warnings, and timeouts we're out of tools. So if you've been knocked upside the head and continue to run your mouth you're going to find yourself awarded some warnings (which are a warning) and possibly some timeouts. Once you get a few of those and prove to us you don't care about our communities rules then you're in the >1% of people that earn a lock and that makes you a special kind of knucklehead. After the 4th or 50th time it's clear we're having difficulty communicating or you don't fucking care. We have run out of discipline at that point and either have to put up with the person's nonsense or not.

Normally we choose not to.

It seems what the majority of the 20-30 threads on this subject are asking for really is for the gentlemen's club to become more like a drunken locker room.

Go over there ---> and throw poop at each other, call each other names, insult family members, disrespect each other, get someone beat up or even shot ... and let the lawyers clean up your mess.

But count me out.

And I'm fine with that.
And the warning you gave me falls under that?
Just 1 warning?  HA!
Let me tell you a story about a thread in GD way back when.....there were chicks everywhere, cleavage, wet t-shirts..the party was out of control.  Paul arrived and stacked the bodies like sandbags. I got 4 warnings in that 1 thread alone. Others got 2, many others 1.  It was a hell of a night.

Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:55:06 PM EDT
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God, I hope so.  

Lots of panties twisted and sandy vaginitis around here lately.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:56:29 PM EDT
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Funny.

Not you OP but folks who say "Free xyz"

What did he get banned for?

I don't  remember so it must have been a BS ban.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:57:34 PM EDT
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This post is getting a lot of ridicule but I tend to agree with it.  The keyword is “traditionally”, not “currently”.

There’s been an awful lot of censorship over the years in America because something was seen to be “sinful” or “indecent” by the “decent, god fearing, moral majority”(conservatives).  Edgy art, rude language, drug use, nudity or even just suggestive behavior, etc.  
The radical censorship efforts of the American left is a relatively new thing, at least on the mainstream scale that it’s currently happening on.  Go back a few decades and take a look at what kind of things were being censored in American culture, though.  
I’m not sticking up for the left in any way, shape, or form.  Their efforts at silencing any and all dissent are inexcusable.  But they’re not the only wannabe censors at work in America.  The sad truth is that the majority of Americans of all political stripes really don’t understand or like the First Amendment and would gleefully silence anyone that they disagree with if given the opportunity.  The left is just having better luck with it lately.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:58:15 PM EDT
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Quit being so sensitive, you sound like a socialist.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 6:59:13 PM EDT
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I think of that place an ARFCOM grave yard. Memorial to the tarded if you will.

They should probably find some better SME's.
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Again, I'm not  being a smartass.  Some members over there  admitted  of late  that it's kind of the "island of misfit toys" of people who left ARFcom.  I began to notice over the past couple  years that some members are more and more left-leaning.  I live in a blue state that is strong on the 2A, so I sort of recognized the "liberal on everything but guns" mentality that was starting to develop over there.

Full disclosure:  I used to love the place when I joined nine years ago and it was all about training, and serious equipment.

Now it's just crickets chirping on a good day, and trolls attacking members over the slightest thing.  I can't tell you how many threads get locked on a regular basis because the most innocuous thread turns into a shit storm of insults and unbridled incivility.  I just got sick of being the butt of a lot of it.  Add to that the mods who tell newbies "do a search before starting another thread" and then when they find an older thread and post to it as instructed, they're made fun of for "necroposting."  Well, you can't have it both ways and I said so publicly over there.  I almost think they don't want any new posts unless it's really something earth-shattering.  I just detect a desire not to have much new activity over there.  That part might be my imagination, but they sure don't encourage novice participation (this they have admitted).  Trouble is, you can't grow a website that way.

I probably should have left the place a few  years ago.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:02:13 PM EDT
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I can’t believe I went shooting with Stalin
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For fuck's sake.

Hey now, anything we don't agree with is the socialist boogeyman. Make your peace with it and move on.
I guess I am literally Stalin now.
I can’t believe I went shooting with Stalin
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:02:16 PM EDT
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Indeed.

That said, I wonder how many of these threads we will have until staff and mods agree there is a problem, or Brownells wonders what they bought.
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As long as the stock response is "Don't like it? Leave..." They won't get it...
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:02:53 PM EDT
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I joined and lurked for the knowledge of tech forums, I stayed for GD.
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This,

And I was lurking for years before I joined.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:03:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:04:23 PM EDT
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Free Gunwrtr.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:04:33 PM EDT
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What what? Socialist website? I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

As for censorship (which has nothing to do with socialism--again, I'm still trying to figure that one out), ARFCOM is quite possibly the LEAST censored hobby forum I've ever been a part of.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:05:01 PM EDT
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I For one welcome our new socialists overlords
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:06:05 PM EDT
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What what? Socialist website? I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

As for censorship (which has nothing to do with socialism--again, I'm still trying to figure that one out), ARFCOM is quite possibly the LEAST censored hobby forum I've ever been a part of.
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So you've been on a total of 1 forums.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:07:28 PM EDT
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For fuck's sake.

Hey now, anything we don't agree with is the socialist boogeyman. Make your peace with it and move on.
I guess I am literally Stalin now.
Why do you get to be Stalin? This is bullshit.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:08:13 PM EDT
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I love to watch cake decorating vids on YouTube, because I have a horrendous sweet tooth.

Here's a great one about H2 make cake flowers out of buttercream frosting.



Russian Ball Tip on a cake - How to use Russian Ball Tips
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:08:58 PM EDT
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If GD is a gentlemen’s  club where are the lap dances?
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:09:23 PM EDT
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Free Gunwrtr.
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Free Willy
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:11:24 PM EDT
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If GD is a gentlemen’s  club where are the lap dances?
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If the pictures are to be believed, don't skip leg day.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:12:35 PM EDT
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To be terribly clear, this is BS.  OP has, in the past several days been more than willing to accuse me of being a ROLCON for having a different, far less nationalist, view of conservatism from him here, announced that FDR engineered World War 2 here, and has a profile that quotes Enoch Powell’s infamous (and often regarded as blatantly racist) “Rivers of Blood” speech.  I post this not to break the rule against harassing another poster for past posts, but to bring up specifically and relevantly to this thread that OP is very willing to be exceedingly provocative, and is still posting here, unbanned and (so far as I know) unthreatened.  I have no idea what brought this on, but given the above, I have no clue how he thinks this place is turning into a socialist hellhole.  My $0.02, for what it’s worth.
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You like chicks with dicks?
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:15:52 PM EDT
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Damnit. Now it's all fucked up. This never would have happened on the old ARFCOM.
Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:16:14 PM EDT
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Zip it back up, we ain't going there!

Link Posted: 8/19/2019 7:17:37 PM EDT
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I thought we do these threads every Thursday, not  on Monday.
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