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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:40:33 PM EDT
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And? What's your solution? Taking some people's stuff at the end of a gun barrel and giving to someone else because their challenges are like totally so hard? Just because the challenges are different doesn't mean that you get to use government to take other people's stuff. Or do you want the government to centrally plan the economy and run all of the businesses and everyone get's paid the same and only has to work a couple of days a week? Equally shared misery? Is that the ticket? I'm genuinely curious what you think should be done to minimize the iniquity inherent in the system. As always I vote for getting rid of at least 50% of the government every year until we find an equilibrium point, but, short of bloodshed that ain't going to happen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. Work hard and don't have kids right away. This isn't hard. And maybe also actually listen to another persons opinion that you disagree with without screeching like you were in fire. It doesn't matter anymore anyway, no one can stop what's coming. What's your solution? Taking some people's stuff at the end of a gun barrel and giving to someone else because their challenges are like totally so hard? Just because the challenges are different doesn't mean that you get to use government to take other people's stuff. Or do you want the government to centrally plan the economy and run all of the businesses and everyone get's paid the same and only has to work a couple of days a week? Equally shared misery? Is that the ticket? I'm genuinely curious what you think should be done to minimize the iniquity inherent in the system. As always I vote for getting rid of at least 50% of the government every year until we find an equilibrium point, but, short of bloodshed that ain't going to happen. The time to stop socialism peacefully is in the early stages, not the endgame when half the population is already in love with it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:41:47 PM EDT
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The first thing that disappears from democratic socialism is democracy. Basically, if you are dependent, you have no leverage anymore. The biggest deterrent to tyranny is a large, thriving middle class with enough independent income to tell would be tyrants to fuck right off. This is why Democrats don’t want MAGA. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:44:09 PM EDT
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lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Young people get behind it because they dont have any earning power yet. As people age and their net worth increases, they dont like the idea of forcibly having their wealth taken away and given to others. That said, socialism on some levels is nearly mandatory to maintain a first world society now. Fire and school tax for instance. College was cheaper compared to annual income. Cars were cheaper compared to annual income. Much better jobs with benefits out of HS. Way less nanny state crap to deal with. Way less SSDI, Medicare, Medicaid population to deal with. Pre 1968 immigration laws were much better for the country. Similar era state government bodies could be much more republican like. No drowning in AA/PC BS. Interest rates were horrible. Very little of the instant gratification credit card life style. Home size, number of cars, frequency of eating out, etc. were much more modest. Gas prices were nuts for a while. A HS diploma, let alone college degree, had not become the pencil drill participation award many of them are now. They had some things that were way better, But they also maintained a much more modest standard of living. Dinky little homes with few, small rooms, single car, 13 inch b&w TV with 3 VHF and 2 UHF channels, one bathroom, no credit card, 8-16% mortgage rates, it was huge news when car loan rates went from like 18 to 11 percent, very expensive long distance calling, a much cruder medical capability with an average life expectancy about a decade shorter, the percentage of people taking cruises, expensive vacations, etc. way lower, much more expensive air travel, going out to eat was a special occasion, a movie was something you want to a couple of times a year, there were no home surround sound, three bathroom, great room, AC, etc. I’m not going to defend how the Boomer generation changes this country, Or deny beneficial job opportunities, benefits, etc. But they did grow up and come to age with much, much lower standards of living and expectations. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:45:30 PM EDT
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Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. This is behavior of the previous generation. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:50:40 PM EDT
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Boomers only had 1 tv and it was black and white and lasted 25 years kiddo. When it went down you had to go get new vacuum tubes and replace them your self. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:50:56 PM EDT
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H1-B et al. Is just plain madness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The economic vampirism from boomers and their brat kids caused this. Also, the southern invasion has devastated lower middle class wages. Couple that with the fact boomers and their brats destroyed our schools we have a perfect storm. And they will end up with a lot of family here that need dialysis, chemotherapy,etc. On the other end of immigrant labor, It’s like the ag businesses, lawn services, and chicken plants that think they are saving a ton, and the buyers liking the low prices, but getting local school, rescue,police, medical services crushed and it is actually costing us far more. The cheaper than American engineer or MD will cost far more in the long run. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:55:04 PM EDT
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Boomers only had 1 tv and it was black and white and lasted 25 years kiddo. When it went down you had to go get new vacuum tubes and replace them your self. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:58:33 PM EDT
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You’re describing Boomers parents. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. In the 70s I remember when my grandparents put a bathroom in their house. I grew up rural, everyone self employed logging, construction, etc. poverty/working poor. I left for the Army in 86 without ever have had AC, microwave, VCR, etc. Maybe of say, 100 families I knew, there were a dozen that were not in the same boat. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 6:59:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:00:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:08:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:08:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:09:25 PM EDT
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Then why the fuck is he allowed here? There is one thing for being for diversity of thought which is healthy. Quite another to advocate for a system that is in direct conflict with the constitution and has killed hundreds of millions of people and impoverished millions more. Fucking trash that that shit is allowed. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:09:35 PM EDT
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Seems like a staged video.
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:11:44 PM EDT
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I had Boomer parents. That’s how I grew up. In the 70s I remember when my grandparents put a bathroom in their house. I grew up rural, everyone self employed logging, construction, etc. poverty/working poor. I left for the Army in 86 without ever have had AC, microwave, VCR, etc. Maybe of say, 100 families I knew, there were a dozen that were not in the same boat. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: lol ok. Yeah, the Boomers didn't have it all the great because they couldn't afford to buy their 4th TV and their savings actually made money.... That really puts it into perspective. I love when kids try to tell people how life was before they were born to people who lived at that time. lol They had 1 car usually used. If dad had the car mom and kids had to take a bus. Hey kiddo! did every one come into school on snowy rainy days wearing plastic bread wrappers with rubber bands around their shoes to keep them dry. Boomers had savings because they put money in the bank and did not spend more then they made. They didn't have cable tv if it wasn't in the budget. They only went out to eat on special occasions. In the 70s I remember when my grandparents put a bathroom in their house. I grew up rural, everyone self employed logging, construction, etc. poverty/working poor. I left for the Army in 86 without ever have had AC, microwave, VCR, etc. Maybe of say, 100 families I knew, there were a dozen that were not in the same boat. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:12:10 PM EDT
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever. "your side" he says... 
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:17:24 PM EDT
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Ultimately, socialism is the notion that prosperity is possible without toil. That you can do nothing productive and still have the comforts of life that require work.
It's nonsense. People who believe in nonsense are NOT SANE. Socialists are not sane. If a socialist is living in comfort, someone else who works and earns is paying for it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:21:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: " I bought my house at 24 with just muh factory job I started working at right out of high school. But you kids are spoiled with your $100/month smartphone." Quote HistoryQuoted: " I bought my house at 24 with just muh factory job I started working at right out of high school. But you kids are spoiled with your $100/month smartphone." Quoted: " I bought my house at 24 with just muh factory job I started working at right out of high school. But you kids are spoiled with your $100/month smartphone." It wasn't a big nice house, but it served me well while I lived there, then later as a rental for a few years. Quoted:
here's the thing, Boomer's were able to support a family and have a home on one income. Growing up in the 70's and 80's, very few of my friends and family had working mothers. Starting in the 90's though (coincidentally enough, around the time that wage stagnation started) more and more of the moms had to go to work. It's been building for GenX'ers and now for Millennials. Stagnant real wages, lots more competition for jobs from working women (out of necessity, not just from choice), and now the flood of legal and illegal immigrants, all combine to make things a real shit show |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:29:12 PM EDT
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Ultimately, socialism is the notion that prosperity is possible without toil. That you can do nothing productive and still have the comforts of life that require work. It's nonsense. People who believe in nonsense are NOT SANE. Socialists are not sane. If a socialist is living in comfort, someone else who works and earns is paying for it. 
Hell, they can scab off their parent's insurance till they are 26....How fucked in the head is that? 
I swear about the only ones of their age group that would make it through some cataclysmic event would be ghetto goblins and Hispanics. The rest would shit their skinny jeans. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 7:44:29 PM EDT
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If there aren’t decent job opportunities in your area or if housing costs are sky high, move. People used to move around to follow their dreams.
Now they sit in their high priced shithole cities bitching about not being able to get a decent job while sponging off their parents. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 8:07:17 PM EDT
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Well, sorry you grew up in Deliverance but you were in the very small minor at that time. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/13/2019 8:28:28 PM EDT
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All they really know is their lives suck and they don’t understand why because they’ve been taught lies their whole life. Leftism has created the mess but in school and media they were taught leftism is infallible so all they can think of to do is double down. Basing your worldview around everything being easy for the boomers (which it was) is tremendously myopic, since the generation before the boomers were living in shantytowns and 1/3 of the country was wandering aimlessly looking for food. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 9:21:16 PM EDT
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they bought into the "you need a collage degree to succeed" ( or be wealthy ) so they go hundreds of thousands in debt to pay for a degree in "fine arts" and graduate only to get a minimum wage job.
Of course they want your money, or course they want socialism. They were sold a bill of goods and now that payment is due they're fucked. Trades are a solid payback. I've never NEEDED and artist or an athlete or entertainer or social activist any time I've been in need. I have needed a mechanic, a plumber, a doctor, a carpenter, veterinarian, farmer etc. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 9:53:57 PM EDT
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Stop bringing facts. Millennials feel they have it tougher than any other generation and that is the important thing. It’s their truth. Those before and after them? Bullsheeeeeeeeit. My fiancee and I are both 23, and we easily have a six-figure household income. Thing is, we work physical jobs that require getting covered in mud, grease, and hydraulic fluid, as well as relatively long hours. There is a fuckton of opportunity nowadays if you're willing to get your hands dirty. If you aren't, that's your own damn problem. Lots of folks older than us with their heads up their asses complaining because they live beyond their means and believe that they're entitled to the world for simply existing. I've already got over a year's worth of expenses saved. We live well below our means, drive older trucks, and spend frugally. I'm in the very, very early stages of building my own business. If all goes well, I'd like to be self-employed by 30, and I've got a plan to do so. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 9:56:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is this strawman always used? I've literally never seen it. Then refute it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 9:59:40 PM EDT
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The economic vampirism from boomers and their brat kids caused this. Also, the southern invasion has devastated lower middle class wages. Couple that with the fact boomers and their brats destroyed our schools we have a perfect storm. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:00:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I suggest admitting the truth. Millennials had to pass more gates, make fewer mistakes, and work harder than boomers to earn the same outcomes in a given age bracket. A little recognition goes a long way towards reconciliation. Ignorant bootstrap proverbs like "just walk in and shake their hand" are the one of the strongest emotional arguments for socialism, and most of them come from the right. Oh woe is me, I have it so hard. Less lamenting your lot in life, blaming others, engaging in the grass is greener on the other side thought, and more working and self development would also to a long way. If you don't have marketable skills, you failed to make wise choices. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:04:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:17:53 PM EDT
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Explain why you think millennials don’t have equal opportunity. Put the why into a very blanket statement. Every generation has faced its challenges. I’d love to know what non self induced challenges millennials have that are so much more than other generations. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. My dad had two master degrees and retired a full colonel. He did fine. A patriot until the day he died. I went to the Army. Did my time and got out. Learned how to install security systems for Brinks Home Security. Stayed for eight years. Took a promotion, learned some more and became a branch manager. Started my own company in 2008. I now own and operate a multi-million dollar company. I'm on my fourth vacation of the year so far as I type this. I'm 48. I did this by myself. No helping hands. No business loans. No debt. And don't get me started on taxes. I have 22 and 23 year old kids who work with me making high 90's with NOTHING BUT A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. They don't sit around complaining and crying and sucking mom's tit. They know where the mission is EVERY DAY and they go get it. I'd love for you to meet Brandon. I hired him away from Sams Club pushing carts making $8.00 and hour in 2015. He's 23 now. He will clear $100K this year. Just bought his first new truck. Has a four bedroom house. Has a wife who stays home. One kid. One on the way. Just bought a HK45 Tactical. Just bought an ACR. He works hard and he's rewarded for it because he brings value to the company. He doesn't make excuses like you. So...you are full of shit. The opportunity is there if you want to accept the challenge. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:26:17 PM EDT
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Straw Man. Then refute it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:31:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. That is pure bullshit you are spewing. There is the same amount of opportunity in America right now as when I graduated high school, my dad graduated high school, my grandfather graduated...oh wait he didn't. He left in 8th grade and worked for GM building tank engines. Then started his own business as a mechanic. Became a millionaire. My dad had two master degrees and retired a full colonel. He did fine. A patriot until the day he died. I went to the Army. Did my time and got out. Learned how to install security systems for Brinks Home Security. Stayed for eight years. Took a promotion, learned some more and became a branch manager. Started my own company in 2008. I now own and operate a multi-million dollar company. I'm on my fourth vacation of the year so far as I type this. I'm 48. I did this by myself. No helping hands. No business loans. No debt. And don't get me started on taxes. I have 22 and 23 year old kids who work with me making high 90's with NOTHING BUT A HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION. They don't sit around complaining and crying and sucking mom's tit. They know where the mission is EVERY DAY and they go get it. I'd love for you to meet Brandon. I hired him away from Sams Club pushing carts making $8.00 and hour in 2015. He's 23 now. He will clear $100K this year. Just bought his first new truck. Has a four bedroom house. Has a wife who stays home. One kid. One on the way. Just bought a HK45 Tactical. Just bought an ACR. He works hard and he's rewarded for it because he brings value to the company. He doesn't make excuses like you. So...you are full of shit. The opportunity is there if you want to accept the challenge. Anyway. 
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:35:08 PM EDT
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You’re describing Boomers parents. My father a ww2 vet. My brother a baby boomer Vietnam vet. Me an 80's gen x Breakfast club Metal head. My uncles and aunts were ww2 vets and rosy the riveter. Their kids "my close cousins were both boomer and gen x. I am a witness to the past and present and lived it. The trades are easier to get into now then they were in the 80's and 90's. You get a livable wage starting in the trades now. In the 90's you started at min wage and worked your way up to poverty for the first 10 years. We are paying idiots 30 dollars an hour now who refuse t learn and quit when the summer heat hits lol. I will guarantee you my brother the boomer lives a more modest life then 90% of Millennial's. To many of you guys are getting brain washed by far left propaganda. I got news for you. The greatest generation had it harder then the boomers, the boomers had it harder then gen x. Gen x had it harder then millennial's. Millennials's have it harder then what ever the label after them is. Life in America now is so easy on kids they are not even in the same realm of reality. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Refute that I've never something... Ok. There I just did it A straw man argument is one so lightly constructed, or hollow, that it is simple to refute. So refute my easily refutable statement. Simply saying "thats a straw man argument" with no refutation of the statement is the equivalent of simply saying, "No it isn't". Fact is, you can't refute it, so you evade it by sidestepping. Thereby solidifying my original statement. Q.E.D. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:43:31 PM EDT
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:51:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30-year-old boomers had vacuum tube B/W TV's in the 80's? My brother the "boomer" teacher lived in a small apartment with a room mate with a small black and white tv. He got his 1st house "mortgage" at around 35 years old with his wife. He drove a Chevy chevette and tithe 10% to his Church. Instead of buying to much house and car they saved and put there kids through collage. Growing up my nephew wanted a Super Nintendo. He had to by it himself with money from mowing grass and odd jobs. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:52:18 PM EDT
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:55:53 PM EDT
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Education inflation, jobs require higher levels of education for the same level of advancement, and education costs far outstripped wage growth. More competition for jobs and housing than when older generations came up due to immigration. Everything is SJWed to shit so you can lose your job for even a minor transgression. Three off the top of my head. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had Boomer parents. That’s how I grew up. In the 70s I remember when my grandparents put a bathroom in their house. I grew up rural, everyone self employed logging, construction, etc. poverty/working poor. I left for the Army in 86 without ever have had AC, microwave, VCR, etc. Maybe of say, 100 families I knew, there were a dozen that were not in the same boat. When I got my house in 96 it was my first time living in central air lol. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 10:59:37 PM EDT
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100% of my friends believe universal basic income is the only way forward. These are all young professionals in their early 30s earning $80,000+ per year. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, sorry you grew up in Deliverance but you were in the very small minor at that time. I guess if normal life in the 70's and 80's seem like "Deliverance" to you then that in it self proves how easy things are for kids now. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:09:11 PM EDT
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Is this copy pasta? Anyway. Government doesn't subsidize six-figure loans for Legos. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:11:42 PM EDT
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100% of my friends believe universal basic income is the only way forward. These are all young professionals in their early 30s earning $80,000+ per year.  The Internationale The US is perceived as an enemy of global socialism. Destroying this country advances their agenda, the ultimate act of sticking it to the man. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:12:43 PM EDT
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Young people get behind it because they dont have any earning power yet. As people age and their net worth increases, they dont like the idea of forcibly having their wealth taken away and given to others. That said, socialism on some levels is nearly mandatory to maintain a first world society now. Fire and school tax for instance. My oldest daughter, who leans left, is working out her budget for buying her first place and she's realizing how much she will have to pay in property taxes, etc. I just smile as she realizes how much of her money she doesn't get to keep anymore as she earns more. I just think this is natural. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:14:07 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of it also is that Boomers and early Gen-Xer's *DID* have a much easier path to the middle class. There is plenty of money to be made with skills or ambition. An enterprising 20 year old could make six figures doing lawn care. I don't understand people whining about how easy the old timers had it. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:15:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this copy pasta? Anyway. https://cdn.howmuch.net/articles/price-changes-in-usa-in-past-20-years-947e.jpg Hourly wages should be the X axis point as it is the standard. Taking a flat number with no expectation of inflation is just silly. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:16:44 PM EDT
[#47]
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It is not like your side has been offering them anything but "nose to the grindstone" mantra for ever. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:18:23 PM EDT
[#48]
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If there aren’t decent job opportunities in your area or if housing costs are sky high, move. People used to move around to follow their dreams. Now they sit in their high priced shithole cities bitching about not being able to get a decent job while sponging off their parents. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:23:49 PM EDT
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What pisses me off the most about that crap is the "problems with capitalism" they cite are actually the result of Govt/socialistic meddling with the market.
Health care is a mess BECAUSE of govt intervention. You can't wave a wand and make that go away without some serious dislocation for a lot of people. The free market would solve most issues if the govt would get out of the way. |
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Posted: 6/13/2019 11:27:29 PM EDT
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Wow, that was super funny, it had me laughing hysterically the whole time omg dude. I wish I was that cool.
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