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Link Posted: 3/13/2019 7:12:27 AM EDT
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The Democrats are taking advantage of the geographic proximity of Latin America to import left leaning voters.

It’s is a strategy of convenience for the left.

Race is mostly irrelevant beyond identity politics, but the left is using identity politics to drive their campaign.

They choose to use Latinos because they are the easiest and most efficient to import.

The end goal is absolute control of the United States.
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Non whites vote SUBSTANTIALLY more for democrats...…..that is why the democrats want to bring them in by the TENS OF MILLIONS...…….it is as simple as that.

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Link Posted: 3/13/2019 12:00:25 PM EDT
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@hauslp  Wait--you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?
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@hauslp  I couldn't care less about Texas latinos being smarter than California latinos.
Answer my question, it's either a yes or no.
“you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?“

You figure out how to magically get them to do all of that and then we’ll address your silly hypothetical.
You need to take a hard second look at your core beliefs, sport.  That "silly hypothetical" is pretty common.  
Not as common as leftists like to make it out to be. Most immigrants are on welfare and most immigrants vote for leftists, that’s the reality.

Even for the ones who aren’t sucking the taxpayer tit, if they vote for the left they’re still a net negative. They’re aiding in the slow death of the nation.

So until you figure out how to flip that reality around your question is a pie in the sky hypothetical.
I think the percentage of dumbass bigots that suck off this website's tit without supporting it is tad higher than that of immigrants sucking on the taxpayer tit.  
You can always tell the SJWs because simple statistics make them salty.
What statistics?
That immigrants utilize welfare services and vote for leftists at far higher rates than legacy Americans.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 12:36:48 PM EDT
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That's a stupid comment.  Grats for stupid comment.
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Seems as though people are worried about the 'browning' aspect, more than anything else.
That's a stupid comment.  Grats for stupid comment.
It’s not wrong though.  Sure, it’s intentionally a racially inflammatory comment, but at its core it’s correct.

Most of us do not enjoy seeing the “browning” of the US.  Why, because culture does have a racial component and “browning” will result in a changed culture.  Our culture and free society, based on Enlightenment ideals like rule of law, rights of the accused and protection of life, liberty and property is unique to those of European descent (mostly England, France, Germany and Scandinavia).

Personally, I feel my culture is the best and do not want to see it replaced.  Our ancestors created this awesome country, and we will just give it away?  Hell no.  I don’t need to virtue signal that “those Latinos are good people and could be natural conservatives, it’s the damn illegals”.  I don’t want any large voting blocks of any inferior culture - regardless of race - to take over my country.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 2:08:57 PM EDT
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Hispanics aren't especially different in this regard. You can say the same for Chinese or even Eastern Europeans. If enough immigrate in large enough numbers they won't assimilate quick enough, and they'll end up voting like they did at home. Which would mean the United States of China, or Russia, or Serbia, or Mexico.
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That’s true, but when the media keeps telling them, and other minority’s, white people/republicans hate them, they tend to go democrat
Yeah, but it's not just the media, and other minority's.  As exemplified by this thread, it is the white people/republicans who are openly saying they do not want them here.  What a great way to bring them into the fold!

Oh and yes, I am also a first generation Hispanic, NRA / SAF member, full on conservative.  But apparently it is MY culture that is destroying this country.  Riiiiiiiight.  Look in the mirror and then take a look at the SJW's and elitists who are trying to take your rights away while pack the schools with propaganda to indoctrinate your children, and you will notice they look exactly like you.
Illegals are a tool of the left there's no denying that, but in large part the problem is hispanics think they have a god given right to maintain their former culture, including their language, in their new homeland.  That's where they're wrong, hispanics/latinos central south Americans whatever need to assimilate or leave plain and simple.  Unfortunately modern society makes it far too easy to stay rooted in the homeland while living in another country.

Let's not forget until the 60's or 70's we have immigration quotas, thanks to Ted Kennedy, those are gone now too.
Hispanics aren't especially different in this regard. You can say the same for Chinese or even Eastern Europeans. If enough immigrate in large enough numbers they won't assimilate quick enough, and they'll end up voting like they did at home. Which would mean the United States of China, or Russia, or Serbia, or Mexico.
The point is in this case it is hipsanics that are the problem not anyone else.  We're allowing geography to dictate our immigration policy and that's just insane.  To fix it we're going to have to bar hispanics and deport a lot of them.  If we bordered eastern europe china russia or serbia I would say the same thing but we don't.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 2:15:45 PM EDT
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That immigrants utilize welfare services and vote for leftists at far higher rates than legacy Americans.
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@hauslp  Wait--you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?
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@hauslp  I couldn't care less about Texas latinos being smarter than California latinos.
Answer my question, it's either a yes or no.
“you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?“

You figure out how to magically get them to do all of that and then we’ll address your silly hypothetical.
You need to take a hard second look at your core beliefs, sport.  That "silly hypothetical" is pretty common.  
Not as common as leftists like to make it out to be. Most immigrants are on welfare and most immigrants vote for leftists, that’s the reality.

Even for the ones who aren’t sucking the taxpayer tit, if they vote for the left they’re still a net negative. They’re aiding in the slow death of the nation.

So until you figure out how to flip that reality around your question is a pie in the sky hypothetical.
I think the percentage of dumbass bigots that suck off this website's tit without supporting it is tad higher than that of immigrants sucking on the taxpayer tit.  
You can always tell the SJWs because simple statistics make them salty.
What statistics?
That immigrants utilize welfare services and vote for leftists at far higher rates than legacy Americans.
None of my family members that have moved here from Venezuela utilize welfare services or vote for leftists.  Neither my family members from Mexico.  Uncle Effy got his US citizenship after fighting in Korea, actually.  The one of the first Mexican families to hit Polk county, MO in the early '80s worked on a larger cattle operation and two of their kids went Army after graduation.  From my foxhole, your statistics are horse shit.  But even if I happen to live in a weird bubble of anomalous latino immigrants, I'd wager the rate of welfare services and lefty voting drop off with follow-on generations as they accumulate wealth and enter the middle class.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 2:28:22 PM EDT
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None of my family members that have moved here from Venezuela utilize welfare services or vote for leftists.  Neither my family members from Mexico.  Uncle Effy got his US citizenship after fighting in Korea, actually.  The one of the first Mexican families to hit Polk county, MO in the early '80s worked on a larger cattle operation and two of their kids went Army after graduation.  From my foxhole, your statistics are horse shit.  But even if I happen to live in a weird bubble of anomalous latino immigrants, I'd wager the rate of welfare services and lefty voting drop off with follow-on generations as they accumulate wealth and enter the middle class.
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@hauslp  Wait--you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/338306/IQ_png-874831.JPG
@hauslp  I couldn't care less about Texas latinos being smarter than California latinos.
Answer my question, it's either a yes or no.
“you're saying that if they come here legally,  desire to become citizens, do what it takes to become citizens, add to the country,  and are not a drain on the wealth of the country, they are going to destroy our society?“

You figure out how to magically get them to do all of that and then we’ll address your silly hypothetical.
You need to take a hard second look at your core beliefs, sport.  That "silly hypothetical" is pretty common.  
Not as common as leftists like to make it out to be. Most immigrants are on welfare and most immigrants vote for leftists, that’s the reality.

Even for the ones who aren’t sucking the taxpayer tit, if they vote for the left they’re still a net negative. They’re aiding in the slow death of the nation.

So until you figure out how to flip that reality around your question is a pie in the sky hypothetical.
I think the percentage of dumbass bigots that suck off this website's tit without supporting it is tad higher than that of immigrants sucking on the taxpayer tit.  
You can always tell the SJWs because simple statistics make them salty.
What statistics?
That immigrants utilize welfare services and vote for leftists at far higher rates than legacy Americans.
None of my family members that have moved here from Venezuela utilize welfare services or vote for leftists.  Neither my family members from Mexico.  Uncle Effy got his US citizenship after fighting in Korea, actually.  The one of the first Mexican families to hit Polk county, MO in the early '80s worked on a larger cattle operation and two of their kids went Army after graduation.  From my foxhole, your statistics are horse shit.  But even if I happen to live in a weird bubble of anomalous latino immigrants, I'd wager the rate of welfare services and lefty voting drop off with follow-on generations as they accumulate wealth and enter the middle class.
“I don’t like the data so I reject it.”

Your personal anecdotes are irrelevant, the numbers are what they are whether you like it or not.

Latinos vote for the left at rates of 2:1, in many cases the children of immigrants are actually MORE leftist than their parents.

Your positions are based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 7:19:51 PM EDT
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“I don’t like the data so I reject it.”
Your personal anecdotes are irrelevant, the numbers are what they are whether you like it or not.
Latinos vote for the left at rates of 2:1, in many cases the children of immigrants are actually MORE leftist than their parents.
Your positions are based on nothing more than wishful thinking.
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This. Anecdotes be damned, any non-Western or 3rd world immigrants vote overwhelmingly Left.
The Dems have known all along exactly what they were doing, and after half a century their plans are coming to fruition.
Like I said before, I don't know what we'll be in 50 years, but I do know what we won't be.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 7:37:29 PM EDT
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Yeah, but it's not just the media, and other minority's.  As exemplified by this thread, it is the white people/republicans who are openly saying they do not want them here.  What a great way to bring them into the fold!

Oh and yes, I am also a first generation Hispanic, NRA / SAF member, full on conservative.  But apparently it is MY culture that is destroying this country.  Riiiiiiiight.  Look in the mirror and then take a look at the SJW's and elitists who are trying to take your rights away while pack the schools with propaganda to indoctrinate your children, and you will notice they look exactly like you.
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That’s true, but when the media keeps telling them, and other minority’s, white people/republicans hate them, they tend to go democrat
Yeah, but it's not just the media, and other minority's.  As exemplified by this thread, it is the white people/republicans who are openly saying they do not want them here.  What a great way to bring them into the fold!

Oh and yes, I am also a first generation Hispanic, NRA / SAF member, full on conservative.  But apparently it is MY culture that is destroying this country.  Riiiiiiiight.  Look in the mirror and then take a look at the SJW's and elitists who are trying to take your rights away while pack the schools with propaganda to indoctrinate your children, and you will notice they look exactly like you.
Please.

The ones coming over the boarder illegally hate people that look like me before they ever get here and experience the mean old racist conservatives.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 7:45:40 PM EDT
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Non whites vote SUBSTANTIALLY more for democrats.....that is why the democrats want to bring them in by the TENS OF MILLIONS....it is as simple as that.

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The Democrats are taking advantage of the geographic proximity of Latin America to import left leaning voters.

It's is a strategy of convenience for the left.

Race is mostly irrelevant beyond identity politics, but the left is using identity politics to drive their campaign.

They choose to use Latinos because they are the easiest and most efficient to import.

The end goal is absolute control of the United States.
Non whites vote SUBSTANTIALLY more for democrats.....that is why the democrats want to bring them in by the TENS OF MILLIONS....it is as simple as that.

End of thread.
Fucking this

And it isn't skin color. It is culture.

Brown people have fucked up cultures in their home countries that almost always embrace socialism and/or authoritarianism.

Prove me the fuck wrong.

That doesn't mean brown people can't be GREAT Americans.   Many are.   But if you import a bunch from another country, most will vote D.
Link Posted: 3/13/2019 8:36:16 PM EDT
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What about the Dems who have families?

Do they not worry about the Cartel terror and kidnapping that will inevitably spread with immigrant invaders?
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The ones in power have the cash to leave whenever they want or need.

Those not in power, have bought into the message and think it can't happen to them,  and if it does, it was their fault anyhow.
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