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Posted: 8/2/2012 2:08:01 PM EDT
Is this true in your neck of the woods?
Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? |
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In Florida, the Sheriff can only be arrested by the Governor or his
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? Anyone can arrest a Sheriff in Texas..... |
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Quoted: Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? Baloney |
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Quoted: The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? |
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The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? Who knows.... |
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The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? Probably a mix of urban legend and Soverign Citizens talking points, like their "fringed flag" babble |
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county |
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence |
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I can tell you that is not true in my state. Sheriff got booked in his own jail (while being head man) by TBI. Now he never spent time in a cell, but he was booked then when back to his office.
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? Feds would book in their own facility and go to fed court. Why would they need a coroner to do the arrest/booking? maybe you mean it's an autopsy |
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? That would only apply to arrests for state law violations. State law can not prohibit the federal government from enforcing federal law. |
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In Connecticut we have no Sherriff's or coroners. In fact, we have no county government whatsoever.
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence What if he resists arrest by arresting you back. |
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In Florida, the Sheriff can only be arrested by the Governor or his designee (usually being either the Attorney General or FDLE Commissioner). Any state (as opposed to local) LEO is a "designee" of the Governor. Nonetheless, I find it hard to believe that if a local LEO pulled over a sheriff for DUI and he was drunk as a skunk, there would be any legal impediment to arresting him. |
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Can't any police officer arrest him if he violates the law?
You know, like everyone else? |
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The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? Who knows.... WI State Constitution has a provision that specifically empowers the coroner with arrest authority over the Sheriff. It doesn't say that the Coroner is the ONLY one that can arrest the Sheriff. I think the idea is that the Sheriff runs the jail. New arrests arrive at the jail. In a crooked system the Sheriff would simply release himself from the jail. To prevent that they gave the Coroner overriding authority. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence What if he resists arrest by arresting you back. Oh... Then it is ON FUCKING ON! |
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Actually in South Carolina the coroner is the one to arrest the sheriff.
SECTION 23-15-120. Coroner to serve or execute process on sheriff in certain circumstances.
If the sheriff shall be a party plaintiff or defendant in any judicial process, execution, warrant, summons or notice to be served or executed within his county, the coroner shall serve or execute such process, execution, warrant, summons or notice. In the discharge of such duties he shall incur such liabilities as would by law attach to their performance by the sheriff himself. HISTORY: 1962 Code Section 53-205; 1952 Code Section 53-205; 1942 Code Sections 3477, 3566; 1932 Code Sections 3477, 3566; Civ. C. '22 Sections 2026, 2111; Civ. C. '12 Sections 1140, 1290; Civ. C. '02 Sections 824, 892; G. S. 646, 712; R. S. 707, 763; 1785 (7) 215; 1839 (11) 78. Link |
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence What if he resists arrest by arresting you back. Then you'd have no choice but to double-dog arrest him... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? Probably a mix of urban legend and Soverign Citizens talking points, like their "fringed flag" babble Coroners do have some unique powers that can exceed those that the sheriff has, at least in some states. The feds can arrest anyone they want, obviously. I have no idea of that's true in NewYoristan.
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. So where does this misnomer come from? Is it old English law or written and challenged in state constitutions? Who knows.... WI State Constitution has a provision that specifically empowers the coroner with arrest authority over the Sheriff. It doesn't say that the Coroner is the ONLY one that can arrest the Sheriff. I think the idea is that the Sheriff runs the jail. New arrests arrive at the jail. In a crooked system the Sheriff would simply release himself from the jail. To prevent that they gave the Coroner overriding authority. Yup. It also prevents the sheriff from killing people without investigations. It's actually a pretty good checks and balances thing, though not terribly relevant in the age of the FBI, etc. |
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence What if he resists arrest by arresting you back. Then you'd have no choice but to double-dog arrest him... Awww snap! |
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In Arizona, the Sheriff can ask the feds to leave his county if he so desires. The Sheriff is the Chief Executive Law Enforcement Officer in the county. Period.
See Sheriff Lonny Mack and the Brady Bill.
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I can tell you that is not true in my state. Sheriff got booked in his own jail (while being head man) by TBI. Now he never spent time in a cell, but he was booked then when back to his office. LOL the infamous (here in Hamilton County) Billy Long. See the newly elected Sheriff made a deal with some cocaine traffickers to cut him in on the deal and he would look the other way. Unfortunately, one was working for the TBI. Woopsie! He's in jail now but yep - our sheriff was arrested and put in his own jail. |
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in my county it's the Head Constable. I work for the Sheriffs Office.
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In Arizona, the Sheriff can ask the feds to leave his county if he so desires. The Sheriff is the Chief Executive Law Enforcement Officer in the county. Period. See Sheriff Lonny Mack and the Brady Bill. Yeah im doubting that. |
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years ago our sheriff was killed in a gunfight (he instantly killed the man that shot him). the coroner was then sheriff until a special election was called. in a small county the sheriff is the highest elected official.
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Feds can arrest a sheriff. However locally on the coroner is the only local LE that can arrest the sheriff.
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Is that really how it works in Hooterville? Do they still use transactional immunity in New York? |
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? You think the Feds need anyone's permission to arrest some damn sheriff? |
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In Connecticut we have no Sherriff's or coroners. In fact, we have no county government whatsoever. And the rest of the story........................... |
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In Arizona, the Sheriff can ask the feds to leave his county if he so desires. The Sheriff is the Chief Executive Law Enforcement Officer in the county. Period. See Sheriff Lonny Mack and the Brady Bill. He is the chief STATE LEO. He can ask the Feds to leave until he turns blue, all they are gonna do is laugh at his dumb ass or bust him even. |
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? This. When our sitting sherrif died several years ago, the coroner was the acting head of county LE until the County Board made an interim appointment. Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking?
That would only apply to arrests for state law violations. State law can not prohibit the federal government from enforcing federal law. Also true. Feds don't charge you for Ordinance (local) or Statute (state) violations, but under violation of US Code (Federal law) |
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Is this true in your neck of the woods? Any cases of crooked sheriffs getting busted by the feds, but the feds needing a coroner to do the actual arrest/booking? You think the Feds need anyone's permission to arrest some damn sheriff? I just love it when the sheriff tells the feds to GTFO of his county though! Sheriff Who Challenged Feds for Amish Raw Dairy Farmer Receives Award for “Meritorious Valor”; CA Sheriff Vows to Protect Herdshares "According to Richard Mack, the former Arizona sheriff who organized the event, “This is about America. It is about whether we are going to preserve our Constitution.” In describing the inaugural sheriffs convention, he added, “It is not a call to arms, or violence, or insurrection. There is nothing subversive here. Quite the opposite.” He noted that the sheriffs in attendance “swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights…They are untouchables. You cannot violate the Bill of Rights.” Sheriffs, he said, “are sworn Constitutional guards. We are the executors of the law. The supreme law is the Constitution. We interpose on behalf of people.” |
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Feds can arrest a sheriff. However locally on the coroner is the only local LE that can arrest the sheriff. Same here. |
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IIRC, didn't the Posse Comitatus group think that the County Sheriff was the highest legitimate authority in the land?
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Quoted: The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. Only if they do it under a gold-fringed flag. |
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IIRC, didn't the Posse Comitatus group think that the County Sheriff was the highest legitimate authority in the land? As it should be because he is elected by the people! |
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Obviously the feds can come in any time. Here, this only applies to LEOs residing inside the county. For example, the sheriff gets a DUI from a city cop, the coroner has to go down and sign the warrant. The city cop can detain, handcuff, and take to jail... cut the coroner has to sign the warrant that actually places him under arrest.
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Quoted: Actually, in my academy classes the exact wording was and still is: Chief Executive Law Enforcement Officer of the county.He is the chief STATE LEO. He can ask the Feds to leave until he turns blue, all they are gonna do is laugh at his dumb ass or bust him even. Probably explains why I get calls all the time from all the fed agencies reporting their operations and locations, every night. This is Arizona and we have Sheriff Joe.
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The Feds can arrest any Sheriff in the country. Only if they do it under a gold-fringed flag. "I ask humbly for Remedy" |
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a sheriff can arrest the president if he breaks the law in his county And Joe Blow citizen can arrest the county Sheriff for a felony or offense against public order committed in his presence +1 and This to boot. |
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