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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:18:49 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:46:11 AM EST
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The flying boats of WWII did some amazing things.

They did CSAR before it was cool, and they did it usually unescorted.


Link Posted: 8/9/2021 1:23:41 AM EST
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Military Aviation Museum in Pungo Va Beach has one if you are ever in SE VA and want to check it out.  They try to keep all the airplanes in flying condition.  
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 1:34:24 AM EST
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That would be something
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 3:57:10 AM EST
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 6:41:51 AM EST
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I was in one two weeks ago at the Oshkosh airshow.
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I missed that one, but I did see the Piaggio.  
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:04:59 AM EST
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Journey To Royal is free for streaming on Amazon Prime, about a PBY rescue mission in the Pacific.

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Yep. I just watched that last night. Well worth the time.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:26:55 AM EST
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The Most Underrated US Combat Plane Of WW2
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:30:37 AM EST
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Last time I visited Whidbey Island to visit a friend working on the Prowlers up there, there was a PBY sitting on a hill on the way to the base beach. I wish I'd have had time to stop and look at it. I hope it isn't just going to be left there forever to rot away.
If I ran a Naval Air Station I'd send the new mechanics (and some of the new pilots to build a rapport with the mechanics who work on their birds) to work on that PBY to build comradery and educate them on their Naval history.
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The Catalina has been moved to the parking lot of the old Chevrolet Dealer.
The museum is across the street.

"New mechanics" have better things to do with taxpayer money than work on a privately owned aircraft.
Things like work on the aircraft they have been trained to work on.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:32:46 AM EST
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If it’s the one I’m thinking about it is under restoration to airworthiness again.
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The PBY at Whidbey will never fly again.
It's not even a "real" US military PBY.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:32:54 AM EST
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If I were to own an aircraft it would be a PBY
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:35:39 AM EST
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Whidbey had a PBY fly in for the 2009 POW/MIA ceremonies at the Sea Plane Base.

PBY Catalina, NAS Whidbey Seaplane Base


The nose gear didn't lower, so they had to push it out by hand and retry.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:44:47 AM EST
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The PBY that was at the Sea Plane base was transported by a commercial helo from the Skagit airport.
It sat up at the old headquarters building for a couple of years before the Military kicked all non-military entities off-base (Red Cross, Boy Scouts, DAV, County dog pound, County women's shelter, etc).
It was trucked to its current location on the old Chevrolet dealership lot across from the PBY Museum.

The PBY on display is not "owned" by the US Navy, they don't spend any money or resources on the project. z
The base is looking for someone to "donate" a static display PBY for the air park.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:53:12 AM EST
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NAVY BUNO 142362
Manufacturers Serial Number 369
Built as a Grumman UF-1G Albatross for the Coast Guard as 1292, diverted to the US Navy
To MASDC (the boneyard) as 1U0020 Sep 28, 1967.
To Allied Aircraft Sales Inc, Tucson AZ on behalf of Grumman Aerospace Corp, St Augustine FL Mar 4, 1981.
To N70252 Air Crane Inc, Opa Locka FL Jan 1989.  
To Island Flying Boats Inc, Miami FL Feb 1989.
To South Florida Aviation Investments, Opa Locka FL Mar 1993.
To Robert F. Carlson, Carson City NV Mar 25, 1998.
To Charles H. Hainline, Hammond OR Mar 29, 2004.
Restored to fly at Alamogordo NM.
To N2NA Charles H. Hainline, Hammond OR, reserved Mar 29, 2004, expired Apr 30, 2014.  
Purchased by Albatross Adventures LLC Feb 12, 2014 and has N1954Z on the tail, and flying at air shows.
For sale 2021.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 7:56:20 AM EST
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Dutch Harbor 1942, my grandfather on the right.
He was later a part of the Operation Deep Freeze Antarctic missions…he claimed because he was a good cold weather flyer.
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Was he part of Operation High Jump or Operation Deep Freeze?
What did he fly down there?
UF-1L Albatross
UC-1 / U-1B Otter
R4D / LC-47 / LC-117 Skytrain
R5D / C-54 Skymaster
P2V-2N / P2V-7LP / LP-2J Neptune
R7V-1 / C-121 Constellation
UV-1L / C-130BL / LC-130 Hercules
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 8:05:03 AM EST
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My uncle was a gunner on one.  His plane patrolled the Gulf of Mexico during WWII, so he never left home.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 8:44:36 AM EST
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Props to the pilots and crew who saved countless lives during ww2.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:07:11 AM EST
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The old PBY and the Grummans were some of my favorites. A Catalina would be a leisurely method of traveling. Convert it to turbines for added reliability and reseal the hull with 5200 when you refit it as a sky camper. Keep a single M2 for each of the blisters to keep the pirates at bay in more exotic locals.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:13:27 AM EST
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I would have loved to have a post war Flying Yacht conversion.


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If I were crazy wealthy and could have any planes I wanted, a luxury PBY would probably be the one getting the most use.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:22:22 AM EST
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Not great because of the cheap camera I had at the time but this was at the Great Georgia Airshow in 2006.

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I saw that same plane in Camden SC at an airshow around that time.  I was told that it has just been sold and was about to head to England (I think) to the new owner.

Dad flew in the Catalina one time and it crashed.  Thankfully he survived or I wouldn't be here today.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:29:49 AM EST
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My father was a radioman on a PBY during the Korean war.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:46:17 AM EST
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How dang expensive would it be to own a boatplane?
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 9:55:45 AM EST
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My grandfather was stationed on a seaplane tender. Most WWII grandfathers had great combat stories. My grandfather's stories involved a lot of incompetence. He used to joke that they were batting .500 for getting the boats and components aboard without smacking them into the side of the ship.

Link Posted: 8/9/2021 10:03:42 AM EST
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This is my desktop back ground.
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 10:21:32 AM EST
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How dang expensive would it be to own a boatplane?
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all the expenses of a plane and boat combined
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 10:25:06 AM EST
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This newly restored beauty was landed in my county during filming of some Nick Cage movie... They left the draincocks open and she promptly sank. Horrible. They still filmed some scenes.
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 10:26:44 AM EST
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all the expenses of a plane and boat combined
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So, maybe we can save some money by just restoring the “boat” part and then taxiing all around the lake?
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 11:44:30 AM EST
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So, maybe we can save some money by just restoring the "boat" part and then taxiing all around the lake?
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Hulls left over from the Lake Boga RAAF Flying Boat Repair Depot in Australia used locally for logging and houseboats
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:20:08 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:24:23 PM EST
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I knew there was one in Anchorage, I just thought it was private owned not in the Aviation Museum.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:28:26 PM EST
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I remember the Convair plant where those were built.  Just off I-5 in San Diego.

There's a picture of one of the two young lady sailors in the bubble on the Internet.  That's was referenced in OP's video.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:30:39 PM EST
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My grandfather flew PBY's out of Pensacola during WWII. He also spent that time being a flight instructor for Navy pilots at Pensacola when not
flying missions over the Gulf of Mexico U-Boat hunting.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:32:23 PM EST
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to downed fliers and floating sailors it was the most beautifully designed plane in history
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:32:45 PM EST
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My grandfather flew PBY's out of Pensacola during WWII. He also spent that time being a flight instructor for Navy pilots at Pensacola when not
flying missions over the Gulf of Mexico U-Boat hunting.
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We camp and boat often where the ramps and pads went into Perdido Bay from their training field.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:36:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:36:23 PM EST
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My grandfather flew the PBY as a Lieutenant in WWII.  

Sadly, he died when I was only 10 and we never spoke of his 30 years in the Air Force/Army Air Corps.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:39:54 PM EST
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Pima




Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:48:55 PM EST
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They're neat, and I honestly didn't realize until recently that all of the early ones didn't have landing gear, and had to be brought up a ramp on a dolly to get on land.

There's a good, $5 book on amazon that tells the story of a Navy Corpman that, due to some serious luck, winds up as a PBY gunner, then a PT boat gunner, then gets out of the Philipines ahead of the Japanese.  He talks about beaching the early ones on land, plus the very redneck fixes to get one with a giant hull hole out of Mindanao just ahead of the Japanese.


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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 12:55:21 PM EST
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What, if any, is the significance of clocking the propeller ?
I see some with one blade up, and others with one blade down.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 1:14:42 PM EST
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What, if any, is the significance of clocking the propeller ?
I see some with one blade up, and others with one blade down.
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Some engines require the prop to be parked in a specific position for storage, to close valves and open drains, etc. One blade will be marked differently from the others.

Kharn
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 1:18:14 PM EST
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Strawberry 5?
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Hell yeah!  I saw that movie in Sensurround.  The opening sequence with the B-25's of the Doolittle Raid about had my little kid ass jumping up and down in the aisle.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 2:02:42 PM EST
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But had really bad taste in cars apparently...........
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 2:31:45 PM EST
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How dang expensive would it be to own a boatplane?
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Breakout another 100K
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 2:39:35 PM EST
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There's a really well done cut away display of a PBY at the Naval Aviation Museum in NAS Pensacola.
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Ha. I was gonna post that  
Wife and I were there last month. Lunch at Mustin too.

If you look in google earth or even Apple Maps  in satellite view, you can see one  (I think it is is a PBY) on the ramp behind the museum awaiting restoration.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 2:45:09 PM EST
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Link Posted: 8/9/2021 3:01:03 PM EST
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The Canadians flew pby's out of Vancouver island for fire fighting and marine patrol unit a few years ago.  Amazing legacy.
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My father used to convert surplus "Canso's" into water bombers.
I used to hang out with him at the hangar on Saturdays , got a couple of rides in the blister from crews that were there to pick them up and do system checks before delivering them.
Fun times for a 10 year old kid !
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 3:44:50 PM EST
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Thanks for that video. I thouroughly enjoyed it.

I would love to fly on one of those. Heck, I would love to be able to afford to own one of those.

That would make an interesting way to go fishing!
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 3:46:47 PM EST
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Great documentary on Amazon. Unfortunately, it's not free on Prime

Return of the Catalina
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 4:30:09 PM EST
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Whenever I think of the PBY, it always reminds me of Steelyard Blues, a 1970s movie with Donald Sutherland and Peter Boyle.  It features a group of misfits trying to fix up an old PBY and fly away to escape the problems of society.  Some good PBY footage and a goofy plot.
Link Posted: 8/9/2021 4:49:48 PM EST
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Jacques Cousteau and the Cousteau Society had one for a while. Operated during the 1970s. The aircraft was a flying camera platform. The plane was lost in Portugal, 1979 resulting in the death of Jacques Cousteau's son Phillippe who was piloting the plane.  It crashed and broke up during a high speed run on the water.


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