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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:18:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chili = bean soup Chili con carne = bean soup with meat. Either way, beans are there … Nah, bro. I like beans in my chili, but bean soup is something else, and it is also friggin' wonderful. It's what you use your hambone for, after Christmas. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:20:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chili should be a seamless experience, every bite a homage to its rich heritage. Beans are the speed bumps on the road to flavor town. Why would anyone willingly choose a bumpy ride? My chili has so much fucking flavor in it, that the beans absorb the flavor and there is still plenty to spare. That's why it takes two days to cook. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:23:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I made this chart eons ago, and most of the people in this thread seem to follow the pattern... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/38579/11120.JPG It looks like you did some of your research for this in San Francisco bath houses. With that bit of context, it makes perfect sense why they wouldn't want to be eating beans. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:23:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beans belong in chili. Spoken like a true poor. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:25:38 AM EDT
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There’s a historian that says that even the Chili Queens used beans occasionally.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:27:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beans are disgusting filler for poors who can't afford a true all meat chili. The same goes for rice, etc. You may ADD beans TO chili, but beans do not MAKE chili, chili. now... /thread. On a side note, the habits I formed when I was broke as fuck, made me the man I am today. They are good habits to have, even though it's good to splurge now and then. My chili has beans. It also has ground venison, to help fill the spaces between chunks of venison backstrap, because I like venison with my venison. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:33:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another argument in favor of Texas: The powdered spice most people call chili is primarily made from peppers in Texas. They certainly weren't grown in Pennsylvania, Illinois, or some of the other states that blanch at the idea of spice. Ergo: Chili is a Texas dish. Q.E.D. The twenty pepper plants I have growing in my garden disagree. You may have heard of these things called gardens, filled with green things. You start off with rich soil (yes, I know, another foreign concept to a Texan). Then you add water. Water is this wet substance that is also rare in many parts of Texas, except for when you get hurricanes. Then you add sun, something that you have too much of (except for when you don't, and half of your state is freezing to death, in what we called "shorts and t shirt weather" up here). |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:35:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There’s a historian that says that even the Chili Queens used beans occasionally. Reason # 87 why you should NEVER piss off your cook ... ... They would spit in the bowl or worse yet add BEANS to your chili!  Bigger_Hammer 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 11:43:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t even get Tex to admit that chili is actually Mexican and not cowboy. I think it's more Texican than anything else. Texican is what Rooster Cogburn (John Wayne) called LaBoeuf (Glen Campbell). Which makes this the perfect place to insert an appropriate quote about Texans, by Rooster Cogburn (John Wayne). Mattie Ross: That tastes like iron. LaBoeuf: You're lucky to be where water's so handy. I've seen the time I've drank out of a filthy hoofprint - and was glad to get it. Rooster Cogburn: If ever I meet one of you Texas waddies who ain't drunk water from a hoofprint, I think I'll... I'll shake their hand or buy 'em a Daniel Webster cigar. Rooster Cogburn: How long you boys down there been mounted on sheep? I know this hurts, my brothers from Texas. Breathe deeply. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:47:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You said annal hehe 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:49:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t even get Tex to admit that chili is actually Mexican and not cowboy. It’s not Mexican, it’s Spanish. Developed from a stew Spanish settlers cooked. If it was Mexican it likely would’ve been all beans, lol. It also featured more game meats than livestock, venison being more popular. So beef would’ve been a “when available” ingredient. Maybe more common to cowboys on cattle drives than the average settler, but cowboys ate alot of beans too. Have to remember that cows were the rancher’s commodity, not the drover’s. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:58:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Texas.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 12:59:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the Yankee heathen. Beans do NOT belong in chili Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Beans belong in chili. Says the Yankee heathen. Beans do NOT belong in chili The whole damn kitchen goes into chili! 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:01:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole damn kitchen goes into chili! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Beans belong in chili. Says the Yankee heathen. Beans do NOT belong in chili The whole damn kitchen goes into chili! |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:16:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can almost guarantee that the original "chili" made by the so called Chili Queens in San Antonio area very likely had beans. At least some had beans. . Unlikely. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 1:18:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can’t even get Tex to admit that chili is actually Mexican and not cowboy. Of course not because even Mexico agrees its not their dish. And it was a "city" dish before cowboys had anything to do with it. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 4:10:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just because y'all decided that goulash should be called chili don't make it so. It'll be cold day in hell that I take culinary advice about chili from Maryland and Ohio. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 4:50:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll be cold day in hell that I take culinary advice about chili from Maryland and Ohio. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just because y'all decided that goulash should be called chili don't make it so. It'll be cold day in hell that I take culinary advice about chili from Maryland and Ohio. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:23:14 PM EDT
[#19]
Chili con carne, from advertisements and cookbooks, 1940 to 1965.
All beans. Sure there’s a few old cookbooks with Texas / no-bean recipes, but the vast majority of your parents and grandparents were eating chili with beans, unless they were from some very specific regions of the southwest.  Don’t get me wrong I’m not defending either method, I LOVE me a bowl of Texas red with some crazy spice, but I also cook up a pot of midwestern “bean soup” style every once in a while because it’s what I grew up on. Either way, it never tops rice or spaghetti… fuck that haha! |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:25:33 PM EDT
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This is why I make and eat chile colorado. The rest of you can argue with the northerners about whatever bullshit mix you're all working on
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:32:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If your chili makes a good condiment for a hot dog, you made your chili wrong. Here's a hint: There's no ground meat. This. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:33:53 PM EDT
[#22]
I eat whatever tastes good.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:36:21 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Says the Yankee heathen. Beans do NOT belong in chili This, though I do like Italian sausage and Pineapple on my pizza from time to time. 
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:37:54 PM EDT
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Pineapple on pizza is delicious but needs to be small pieces.
Chili doesnt come from texas but i do enjoy a texas red. Probably one of the best chili dishes out there. The yankee bean soup still has a place... It has some nostalgia for me. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:43:22 PM EDT
[#25]
Again?
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:47:13 PM EDT
[#26]
FPNI.
I like the textural difference, and the flavor. Plus it adds protein, fiber and nutrients. For pregnant women, beans are high in folate, thought to prevent neural tube defects. What better vehicle than chili? Add in calcium, magnesium, phosphorous and potassium, not to mention zinc, copper, manganese, selenium, and vitamins B1, B6, E, and K... Good stuff. It makes chili not just beef soup. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:47:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Beans in chili, the rest is spaghetti sauce If you think chili without beans is ground beef with tomato, basil, and oregano, you're doing it wrong. Really wrong. The saddest part is that if you actually had real chili, you would never want that bean soup garbage again. You just don't know what you're missing. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:49:27 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah, bro. I like beans in my chili, but bean soup is something else, and it is also friggin' wonderful. It's what you use your hambone for, after Christmas. This is true. Love some ham and bean soup. Not chili. Split pea is good too, the cousin to bean soup. Heck, I’ll even do lentils… |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:50:23 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Chili con carne, from advertisements and cookbooks, 1940 to 1965. All beans. Sure there’s a few old cookbooks with Texas / no-bean recipes, but the vast majority of your parents and grandparents were eating chili with beans, unless they were from some very specific regions of the southwest. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/390x254q90/r/923/ogqQMP.jpg Don’t get me wrong I’m not defending either method, I LOVE me a bowl of Texas red with some crazy spice, but I also cook up a pot of midwestern “bean soup” style every once in a while because it’s what I grew up on. Either way, it never tops rice or spaghetti… fuck that haha! The majority of Americans allegedly vote for Democrats, too. It doesn't make them right. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:55:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This, though I do like Italian sausage and Pineapple on my pizza from time to time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Says the Yankee heathen. Beans do NOT belong in chili This, though I do like Italian sausage and Pineapple on my pizza from time to time. You’re a Yankee that knows chili, but you lost me on the pizza… |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 5:59:45 PM EDT
[#31]
Remember, chili aficionados, stand your ground and let the world know that chili's glory should not be overshadowed!
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Posted: 8/19/2023 6:16:01 PM EDT
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Biden puts beans in his chili, so I can see why America is going down the drain, people here are just like Biden.
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Posted: 8/19/2023 7:53:29 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s not Mexican, it’s Spanish. Developed from a stew Spanish settlers cooked. If it was Mexican it likely would’ve been all beans, lol. Mexican food is just a mixture of who has been there, who was trading there, and what ingredients were available. Just like anywhere else in the world. I’ve always known no beans chili as chili colorado. I grew up eating it from a Mexican restaurant. |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:31:00 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is true. Love some ham and bean soup. Not chili. Split pea is good too, the cousin to bean soup. Heck, I’ll even do lentils… In northeast Ohio in the fall, the trees are spectacular, such that they had (and I think still have) a thing on weekends, called "The Fall Foliage Tour." One of the stops was the Chatham Apple Butter Festival, where you could get apple butter, apple cider and incredible ham and bean soup. I'll never forget as a little kid being amazed by what had to be a 50 gallon pot of bean soup, with a guy stirring it with a giant, two-handed spoon of some type. I remember asking my dad, "Dad! Is he stirring that soup with a canoe paddle?" |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:46:58 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t put beans in my chili. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Not rating this thread until the Ohio guys chime in. @TheWhitePill I don’t put beans in my chili.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/19/2023 10:52:51 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI. I like the textural difference, and the flavor. Plus it adds protein, fiber and nutrients. For pregnant women, beans are high in folate, thought to prevent neural tube defects. What better vehicle than chili? Add in calcium, magnesium, phosphorous and potassium, not to mention zinc, copper, manganese, selenium, and vitamins B1, B6, E, and K... Good stuff. It makes chili not just beef soup.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:19:03 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FPNI. I like the textural difference, and the flavor. Plus it adds protein, fiber and nutrients. For pregnant women, beans are high in folate, thought to prevent neural tube defects. What better vehicle than chili? Add in calcium, magnesium, phosphorous and potassium, not to mention zinc, copper, manganese, selenium, and vitamins B1, B6, E, and K... Good stuff. It makes chili not just beef soup. Does this look like beef soup?  This is beef soup with beans:  |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:21:16 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I made chili yesterday. No fucking beans, they just displace where more meat, onions, and jalape os could be. 
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:28:29 AM EDT
[#39]
It's not chili with out the beans
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:32:34 AM EDT
[#40]
Another "stop liking what I don't (or do) like" thread.
Ford vs chevy, 45acp vs 9mm, and the lists go on and on. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:36:48 AM EDT
[#41]
I’m sure the first guy to invent a peanut butter sandwich would cry sacrilege at those putting jelly in his creation.
That doesn’t mean it’s not an improvement. You Texans may have invented chili, but us yanks perfected it, with beans. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#42]
Sometimes I’ll put 45acp or occasionally 9mm in my chili.
But NEVER BEANS 
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:49:16 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure the first guy to invent a peanut butter sandwich would cry sacrilege at those putting jelly in his creation. That doesn't mean it's not an improvement. You Texans may have invented chili, but us yanks perfected it, with beans. It would then be called a peanut butter AND jelly sandwich - not a peanut butter sandwich. Beaners can't meme. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:51:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It would then be called a peanut butter AND jelly sandwich - not a peanut butter sandwich. Beaners can't meme. Lol, touché. I brought chili into the office last winter. Two Texans stationed with me, they both loved my chili, but refused to call it chili. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:52:14 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You Texans may have invented chili, but us yanks perfected it, with beans. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 10:58:47 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m sure the first guy to invent a peanut butter sandwich would cry sacrilege at those putting jelly in his creation. That doesn’t mean it’s not an improvement. You Texans may have invented chili, but us yanks perfected it, with beans.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 11:00:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Beans do not improve or perfect anything. They are cheap filler used in a slumgullion that you yanks have decided should be called chili. The reality is that your so called chili shares more in common with goulash than it does chili. The addition of chili powder to your dish of Eastern European descent does not warrant a new name, and it has little to nothing in common with actual chili. I’ve been stationed in Texas, had “authentic” chili prepared by Texans. I still prefer beans in my chili. It just isn’t chili without beans. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 11:08:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chili doesn't have tomatoes or any tomato products either. A greater sin of chili made of a tomato base than beans. At least the poors have an excuse. The ignorant do not. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 11:08:59 AM EDT
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Wtf is is so hard to understand. Beans are filler. Filler is used to stretch dishes to feed more people.
Do you make your dish with no filler and feed 40 people or add filler and feed 120. Completely up to you. I know if I was in a chow line id rather have chili with beans than a bowl of air. |
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Posted: 8/20/2023 11:21:37 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why I make and eat chile colorado. The rest of you can argue with the northerners about whatever bullshit mix you're all working on They would just use green tomatoes and tofu if they did. Otherwise it would just be guacamole soup.
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