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Posted: 8/16/2023 6:56:51 PM EDT
The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy   Afghanistan's most important agricultural product   repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light   as an important global counter-narcotics victory   must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally.
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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 6:58:24 PM EDT
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Taliban is better at the war on drugs
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:03:34 PM EDT
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Can't cultivate anything if they chop off your hands.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:05:44 PM EDT
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"... and that's a bad thing!"


Witness the logic of Globohomo and our establishment. There will never be an end to drugs. The Southern border will never be closed.

Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:07:52 PM EDT
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If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing.

Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.”
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:07:52 PM EDT
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They're just more committed to results.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:07:54 PM EDT
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Winning the War on Drugs is bad, because it puts the illegal drug industry out of business and that lowers GDP.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:09:22 PM EDT
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What's the CIA gonna do for money now?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:12:28 PM EDT
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They aren’t even trying to hide how fucked up it all is.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:12:53 PM EDT
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Winning the War on Drugs is bad, because it puts the illegal drug industry out of business and that lowers GDP and harms poor people, and impoverished minorities.
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That last part is important. For the progressives to rule, they need people to be poor enough to be dependent on government for their existence, but not so desperate that they start to blame the government for their problems. They also benefit from mass addiction to stupifying substances. They NEED those poppy fields. They just can’t say it out loud.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:15:43 PM EDT
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Sounds like a neocon wet dream.

Re-invade to reestablish production, then invade China to provide a market.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:19:51 PM EDT
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How're you going to stop them?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:22:03 PM EDT
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They can relax comfortably with the “profits” coming out of Ukraine.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:35:47 PM EDT
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If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing.

Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.”
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Poor people can always do something positive instead.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:36:17 PM EDT
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Sounds like a neocon wet dream.

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Refit those old Yankee Clippers of East Boston


Or maybe get Bush to give back that old 1082 King Air he got after Barry Seal's demise

In Lucius they trust
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:36:21 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:36:38 PM EDT
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Less heroin and more fentanyl.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:36:41 PM EDT
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Well, To Be fair, The Taliban does not profit from the war on drugs like American LEO does.  If they actually WON the war on drugs here in the US, entire industries would be out of business.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:37:15 PM EDT
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fuck Afghans economy.

i support the Taliban in banning that shit.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:39:56 PM EDT
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Less heroin and more fentanyl.
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Bingo

Chinese payback they have long memories for fueds
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:41:02 PM EDT
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Where does chinah get its opium to make fentanyl?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:41:45 PM EDT
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... Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. ...
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FFS...
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:44:03 PM EDT
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They already switched to fentanyl
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:45:39 PM EDT
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Bet they are tough on immigration too.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:45:56 PM EDT
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Have they eradicated anally gang-raping young boys?  Because I remember that being a thing with U.S. allies.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:46:41 PM EDT
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@Riter

Fentanyl is 100% synthetic.  Same as Demerol and Propoxyphene.

Morphine and Codeine are 100% natural and make up a percentage of opium.

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) is semi-synthetic.  Start with a natural opioid and modify it to be more potent.  Same as Dilauded, oxycodone, etc.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:47:33 PM EDT
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I believe they still call that thursay.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:49:39 PM EDT
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We still have that problem in the US but now were pushing it as a normal thing.

Why fix the problem when you can normalize it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:52:15 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:52:43 PM EDT
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Does the world even need that crop anymore?
Will there be any demand for it?
Aren't synthetic drugs taking over the pharma and recreational demand for opioids?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:53:29 PM EDT
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It's a bad thing because it proves we have not been serious on the war on drugs - we were not willing to chop a few hands off to win.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:54:09 PM EDT
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If poor people are making money at something, even if it’s illegal and harmful and generally considered “bad” by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing.

Having laws and standards of decency is racist. And classist. And all of the other “ists.”
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Drugs or terrorists because they’re too poor/dumb to do anything else.  

Either way it’s a shit sandwich.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:54:35 PM EDT
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I believe it is entirely synthetic.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:55:20 PM EDT
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Taliban v. Mexican Cartel
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:55:21 PM EDT
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Which is really weird, because we were definitely willing to look the other way while young Afghan boys were being gang-raped by our allies.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:58:31 PM EDT
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Does the world even need that crop anymore?
Will there be any demand for it?
Aren't synthetic drugs taking over the pharma and recreational demand for opioids?
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@Enzo300

Tradition and self-sufficiency will likely continue to drive opium production.  For Fentanyl, you need good chemists as it isn’t easy to manufacture.  If production in China stops or supply gets cut off, it’s good to have opium as a back-up.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 7:59:06 PM EDT
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it is, or at least most of it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:01:31 PM EDT
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Leftists love to use illegal drugs, they're so dumb they think it signals high intelligence.

So, of course Leftists cry when opium production goes down, because the price of heroin will go up.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:03:37 PM EDT
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@Enzo300

Tradition and self-sufficiency will likely continue to drive opium production.  For Fentanyl, you need good chemists as it isn’t easy to manufacture.  If production in China stops or supply gets cut off, it’s good to have opium as a back-up.
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Gotcha. Thanks for the answers, Doc.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:07:52 PM EDT
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"... and that's a bad thing!"


Witness the logic of Globohomo and our establishment. There will never be an end to drugs. The Southern border will never be closed.

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"Opiates are the opiate of the masses"
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:09:16 PM EDT
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I bet the CIA is pissed.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:10:57 PM EDT
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The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy   Afghanistan's most important agricultural product   repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light   as an important global counter-narcotics victory   must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally.
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https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world

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Lmao "United States Institute of Peace"

"The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures."

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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:11:05 PM EDT
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If we had nuked that country from the start none of this would be an issue.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:11:39 PM EDT
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Lmao "United States Institute of Peace"

"The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures."

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The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy   Afghanistan's most important agricultural product   repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light   as an important global counter-narcotics victory   must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally.


https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world



Lmao "United States Institute of Peace"

"The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures."

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Now THAT is a CIA front..
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:11:47 PM EDT
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Drugs or terrorists because they’re too poor/dumb to do anything else.  

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They simply have no other way to make a living.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:15:24 PM EDT
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More like complete ban except for Taliban owned fields and crops!

I like the word "Nearly" interjected in there lol
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:15:32 PM EDT
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Now THAT is a CIA front..
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The Taliban have done it again: implementing a nearly complete ban against cultivation of opium poppy   Afghanistan's most important agricultural product   repeating their similarly successful 2000-2001 prohibition on the crop. But the temptation to view the current ban in an overly positive light   as an important global counter-narcotics victory   must be avoided. This is particularly true given the state of Afghanistan's economy and the country's humanitarian situation. Indeed, the ban imposes huge economic and humanitarian costs on Afghans and it is likely to further stimulate an outflow of refugees. It may even result in internal challenges for the Taliban itself. And, in the long run, it will not have lasting counter-narcotics benefits within Afghanistan or globally.


https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/06/talibans-successful-opium-ban-bad-afghans-and-world



Lmao "United States Institute of Peace"

"The United States Institute of Peace (USIP) is an American federal institution tasked with promoting conflict resolution and prevention worldwide. It provides research, analysis, and training to individuals in diplomacy, mediation, and other peace-building measures."

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Now THAT is a CIA front..


Many such cases.

Like the NED.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:19:31 PM EDT
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This is only a bad thing because Western Politicians and Shadow Government agencies  can't profit off this like they can with Mexican drug cartels.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:19:45 PM EDT
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You mean they banned everyone from growing it, except themselves?
There is a difference between maintaining the Rule of Law and brutality.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:22:41 PM EDT
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They’re willing to do things we are not.
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