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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:33:19 AM EST
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2024 is further away from 1980 than 1980 is from 1941
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:36:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As you get older you become more comfortable with greater spands of time. I was born 20 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor and World War II and it seemed like another world. We're 20 years after the attacks of September 11th and they seem like they happened mere months ago. Very true. I remember being floored reading the Civil War vets protested WWI. Now I don't feel like the Civil War was that long ago...  I remember asking my Dad how long ago WWII was when I was a kid and he said 30 years. Man that was ancient history to me then... |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:38:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People normally don't live to be one hundred. My dad was 92, and less than three months from 93. I tend to use 100 as the benchmark.  If he had been less hard headed about Dr.'s he could have added a few more years to his score.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:45:14 AM EST
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My parents were in elementary school when WW1 began and lived to see the twin towers collapse.
Mother realized what was happening, but Dad was oblivious and asked me if WW3 had started. She passed shortly afterwards; he, in '04. I was born about a year before the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and 12 before our town finally got a (barely) usable TV signal. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:45:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It also only works if Grandma is squeezing out babies at 80-100 years old instead of 20-30. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: People normally don't live to be one hundred. It also only works if Grandma is squeezing out babies at 80-100 years old instead of 20-30. No. 80 year old man can knock up a 20yr old. Also, main premise is 3 people. Not direct parent-child. Im pretty sure I explolictly said 5 levels of kids between a person beinf 16 and hitting 80 |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:48:14 AM EST
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There's video on youtube of a man who witnessed the assassination of Abraham Lincoln....being interviewed on a television show.
I've looked into the eyes of a woman who saw, first hand, Adolf Hitler. I've looked into the eyes of a man who saw, first hand, Hiroshima immediately after the bomb, less than a week after the war was over. My grandfather talked about talking to his grandfather, who immigrated from England in 1866. Less than 20 years from the end of WWII to the a12 Oxcart/SR71 Blackbird. The moon landing was only 9 years old when I was born. Time is a very funny thing when you think about it. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:48:59 AM EST
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My Great Grandpa was born in 1899, and I still have his 1911 that he carried in the war. He passed in his 70's but his wife, born in 1901 lived to 98.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:54:14 AM EST
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My dad was three weeks short of his 93rd birthday.
A friend's grandmother was living with them, in her 90s. Mentally sharp but physically, well, old. I went over to my friend's house often, and once when he wasn't home she invited me in for coffee. We chatted for a while, and after that I made a point to spend time with her, as she had some great stories. Her family came across the Oregon trail in wagons, headed to California. Cholera hit the wagon train somewhere around what is now the Oregon border, and most of the people she was traveling with died, including the rest of her family. She thinks she was about five years old. The next train along picked up the survivors, as was the custom, and one family adopted this little girl. The stories she told... Indians, tornados, campfire cooking, people dying of snake bite, disease, injuries that are all survivable now. And cooking- she told me doughnuts made with bear fat were amazing, and one day I learned she was right. She went from horseback and wagon train to the moon landing. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:54:27 AM EST
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OP if you want to blow your mind, look up President Tyler's 95 year-old grandson.
John Tyler, 1790-1862 Lyon Tyler, 1853-1935 Harrison Tyler, 1928-present |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:58:11 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Generations are only like 20-30 years. Fertility range is only like 30 years (15-45). The most productive ranges are like 15-65 years. Even life expectancy has abut doubled ove the time period Why would you use 80 as the average life span that also includes the socially useless childhood and elderly ranges? OP’s premise is weak. My thoughts as well. Better to think in *generations*. Which is roughly each 25 years. So, 250 years is 10 generations. That's not young at all. That's a LOT of historical and personal knowledge gapped and lost to time. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 9:58:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OP if you want to blow your mind, look up President Tyler's 95 year-old grandson. John Tyler, 1790-1862 Lyon Tyler, 1853-1935 Harrison Tyler, 1928-present Came to post this! Incredible! |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:04:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've looked into the eyes of a woman who saw, first hand, Adolf Hitler... I've heard him on Dad's shortwave radio, also Horst Wessel Lied and Liliburlero. The radio. It's been restored and plays beautifully.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:05:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My grandpa was born in 1911, died in 2013. He as into aviation. Born a few years after the Wright Brothers flight he watched in fascination how aircraft evolved. Shit, I can say the same thing about what I’ve seen with electronics in my lifetime. I’m only 47. When my Dad was a youngster if you wanted to learn how to fly an airplane you found someone who knew how to fly an airplane and usually paid, or worked for them, in return for them teaching you how to fly. There were no such things as ground schools, flight tests, nor a pilot or a flight instructor's license. Much consternation erupted among pilots after the depression era CAA (Civil Aeronautics Authority) was enacted and pilots were required to obtain licenses issued from the government. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:35:30 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My grandpa was born in 1911, died in 2013. He as into aviation. Born a few years after the Wright Brothers flight he watched in fascination how aircraft evolved. Shit, I can say the same thing about what I’ve seen with electronics in my lifetime. I’m only 47. I had a discussion yesterday there are people in my office that did not know what a pager/ Beeper was or life before TSA. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:37:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My parents were in elementary school when WW1 began and lived to see the twin towers collapse. Mother realized what was happening, but Dad was oblivious and asked me if WW3 had started. She passed shortly afterwards; he, in '04. I was born about a year before the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor and 12 before our town finally got a (barely) usable TV signal. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:39:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My dad was three weeks short of his 93rd birthday. A friend's grandmother was living with them, in her 90s. Mentally sharp but physically, well, old. I went over to my friend's house often, and once when he wasn't home she invited me in for coffee. We chatted for a while, and after that I made a point to spend time with her, as she had some great stories. Her family came across the Oregon trail in wagons, headed to California. Cholera hit the wagon train somewhere around what is now the Oregon border, and most of the people she was traveling with died, including the rest of her family. She thinks she was about five years old. The next train along picked up the survivors, as was the custom, and one family adopted this little girl. The stories she told... Indians, tornados, campfire cooking, people dying of snake bite, disease, injuries that are all survivable now. And cooking- she told me doughnuts made with bear fat were amazing, and one day I learned she was right. She went from horseback and wagon train to the moon landing. That's why I love talking to octogenarians and older. This lady's story probably is the best so far. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 10:40:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Forget it, he's rolling. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:23:55 AM EST
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Some would argue a generation is only 30 - 40 productive years. Before and after, you're either coming or going.
The 20 year old WWII surplus I bought in the 60's is now listed on eBay as "vintage" with asking prices to match. We thought it was neat to take WWII era c rations camping. Who knew back then canned food had a one year expiration date?
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:35:20 AM EST
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I did meet a dude last year whose grandfather was in the civil war. Crazy right? His grandfather had his dad in his seventies and then his dad did the same with him. However, that is some crazy circumstances and probably exceptional in its occurrence.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:38:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. 80 year old man can knock up a 20yr old. Also, main premise is 3 people. Not direct parent-child. Im pretty sure I explolictly said 5 levels of kids between a person beinf 16 and hitting 80 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-person-receive-civil-war-pension-dies-180975049/  Attached File Attached File Attached FileImagine fighting in the civil war and then living through WW1 and WW2 and into the 1950s. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:47:53 AM EST
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We have a neighbor (Bob) who is 97. He served in the navy during WWII. His father was just a boy during the Civil War who tended gardens and ran teams of oxen for farmer's wives while the men were fighting in the war. Bob's dad never married during adulthood. When he was an old man, Bob's dad got into an argument with a neighbor who said something like he was glad the bloodline would end with him (Bob's dad). Well, Bob's dad found himself a younger woman to marry and they had a child...Bob.
So, I can talk to a guy right now whose father was alive during the Civil War and hear stories about life during the Civil War. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 11:58:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As you get older you become more comfortable with greater spands of time. I was born 20 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor and World War II and it seemed like another world. We're 20 years after the attacks of September 11th and they seem like they happened mere months ago.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:01:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many more dogs will you have before you die? None. Losing the first two was hard enough, I'm not voluntarily going through that ever again. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:49:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did meet a dude last year whose grandfather was in the civil war. Crazy right? His grandfather had his dad in his seventies and then his dad did the same with him. However, that is some crazy circumstances and probably exceptional in its occurrence. Quote HistoryQuoted: I did meet a dude last year whose grandfather was in the civil war. Crazy right? His grandfather had his dad in his seventies and then his dad did the same with him. However, that is some crazy circumstances and probably exceptional in its occurrence. Quoted: Quoted: No. 80 year old man can knock up a 20yr old. Also, main premise is 3 people. Not direct parent-child. Im pretty sure I explolictly said 5 levels of kids between a person beinf 16 and hitting 80 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/last-person-receive-civil-war-pension-dies-180975049/ https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/war1_JPG-3313926.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/war_JPG-3313927.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/435611/war2_JPG-3313928.JPG Imagine fighting in the civil war and then living through WW1 and WW2 and into the 1950s. Amazing and goes to what I was saying |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 12:51:20 PM EST
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My penis is 16 inches long. I'm measuring from the back of my ass crack.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:02:37 PM EST
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Joe Biden
Keith Richards Mick Jagger Paul McCartney Robert De Niro My Dad All ^ are 80+ years old. That list includes at least 1 non lefty. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:03:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My penis is 16 inches long. I'm measuring from the back of my ass crack. Ah, the 'pecker method 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:10:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As you get older you become more comfortable with greater spands of time. I was born 20 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor and World War II and it seemed like another world. We're 20 years after the attacks of September 11th and they seem like they happened mere months ago. I enlisted into the USN to fight the Russians in a big navy war. Reagan was president. My neices had no idea what Desert Storm was until I went apeshit and made them watch a documentary with me. My Grandmother was born in 1910. Before the Titanic. She was in college when Wyatt Earp died. She told stories of making bathtub gin with my grandfather and having big parties during prohibition. To me, that is like ancient Roman times, but it wasn't. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:16:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My penis is 16 inches long. I'm measuring from the back of my ass crack. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:17:30 PM EST
[#30]
My ancestors were in British America since 1608, the last arrived in 1767 (and fought in the Revolution). The United States may have begun with independence but America is much older.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:18:08 PM EST
[#31]
Outstanding topic OP!
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:34:51 PM EST
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If you look at us as a species, it’s even more mindboggling that we used the same stone tools for a million years but went from the Model T to landing on the moon in 50.
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:40:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you look at us as a species, it’s even more mindboggling that we used the same stone tools for a million years but went from the Model T to landing on the moon in 50. More and more I believe civilization has risen and collapsed many times in the past. We are a species with amnesia. Just imagine if all the information stored in computers was lost overnight. That could set us back a century possibly. There isn't that much being put in more durable mediums like print anymore. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:41:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Outstanding topic OP! Quote HistoryQuoted: Outstanding topic OP! Thank you. Quoted: My ancestors were in British America since 1608, the last arrived in 1767 (and fought in the Revolution). The United States may have begun with independence but America is much older. Agreed. Hence I said U.S. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:42:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Life expectancy in 1775 was only around 35. In 1810 it was only around 40. In 1850 it was still only around 40. In 1890 it was around 45 years. In 1935 it was around 65 years. That brings us to 2000 where average life expectancy was around 77 years old. Now, in 2024, it is around 80. That’s 6 generations (or persons as OP says). You could probably find 3 people in their 80’s over the 250 years, but the average age is a better indicator of the number of generations that have passed. We are still a very young nation. By comparison, the Roman Empire was around for 2000 years. lol |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:43:30 PM EST
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This is a very col post...thank OP!
Im 63 yo. I knew people born in the 1860's they knew people from the 1700's. I knew dozens of people from the 1800's. I lost my last grandmother 3 years ago.... her mother didnt die until 2000......born 1899 and her older brother was at the funeral born 1897. It was their parents that I knew from the 1860's. A couple of my uncles that I grew up with were in the trenches during WW!. Maybe I love history because it feels alive to me. Fascinating to think about these timelines 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:43:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: More and more I believe civilization has risen and collapsed many times in the past. We are a species with amnesia. Just imagine if all the information stored in computers was lost overnight. That could set us back a century possibly. There isn't that much being put in more durable mediums like print anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you look at us as a species, it’s even more mindboggling that we used the same stone tools for a million years but went from the Model T to landing on the moon in 50. More and more I believe civilization has risen and collapsed many times in the past. We are a species with amnesia. Just imagine if all the information stored in computers was lost overnight. That could set us back a century possibly. There isn't that much being put in more durable mediums like print anymore. Why I collect books and laminated versions of information if I can. Microfilm is best. I have books on microbiology and culture prep from the 1800s, medical school textbooks from the 1930s, and even a hymnal from 1773. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 1:54:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2024 is further away from 1980 than 1980 is from 1941 I was born in 1961(age 62 now) when tanks were facing each other at Checkpoint Charlie. A person who was 62 when I was born would have been born in 1899. I heard a live interview back in the 1970s with a woman who witnessed the Northfield raid by the James/Younger gang. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:11:33 PM EST
[#39]
A few more than 3, at least on my Dads side. Colonel John Kelly daughter in the Revolutionary War, whilst John Kelly Robinson daughter in the Civil War. Alfred McEwen is my great grandfather, and someone hand wrote this on one of his wedding invitations. Alfred’s father, John McEwen, built the Wigwam that Lincoln gave a speech on in 1860.
My Mom, who was born in 1935, walked in American Legion parades in the late 30s/early 40s in DC with Civil War vets. 
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:14:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As you get older you become more comfortable with greater spands of time. I was born 20 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor and World War II and it seemed like another world. We're 20 years after the attacks of September 11th and they seem like they happened mere months ago. As our turds get closer to the center of the flush. The faster things move |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:15:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Life expectancy in 1775 was only around 35. In 1810 it was only around 40. In 1850 it was still only around 40. In 1890 it was around 45 years. In 1935 it was around 65 years. That brings us to 2000 where average life expectancy was around 77 years old. Now, in 2024, it is around 80. That’s 6 generations (or persons as OP says). You could probably find 3 people in their 80’s over the 250 years, but the average age is a better indicator of the number of generations that have passed. We are still a very young nation. By comparison, the Roman Empire was around for 2000 years. Life expectancy doesn’t work like you think it works |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:21:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Life expectancy doesn’t work like you think it works Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Life expectancy in 1775 was only around 35. In 1810 it was only around 40. In 1850 it was still only around 40. In 1890 it was around 45 years. In 1935 it was around 65 years. That brings us to 2000 where average life expectancy was around 77 years old. Now, in 2024, it is around 80. That’s 6 generations (or persons as OP says). You could probably find 3 people in their 80’s over the 250 years, but the average age is a better indicator of the number of generations that have passed. We are still a very young nation. By comparison, the Roman Empire was around for 2000 years. Life expectancy doesn’t work like you think it works Please proceed. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:23:54 PM EST
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Thread is about the significance of the passage of time. Just with higher IQs than the democratic presidential candidate
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:27:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2024 is further away from 1980 than 1980 is from 1941 The Berlin Wall has been down longer than it was up. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:27:45 PM EST
[#45]
To put it into more perspective. Wyatt Earp was still living when my Father was born in 1926. My Father met a living Civil War veteran when he was a little kid and grew up to fight in WWII as a Tailgunner on a B24 crew. My father was born in a house that had no electricity and no running water but in his lifetime would watch men walking on the Moon on his TV. He even had a g-mail account.
United States history is actually a very short frame of time. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:28:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Please proceed. Infant/child death skews the numbers big time. In the past way more infants and children died driving the numbers down. Much like getting a zero on a test in school made it a bitch to get your grade back up...
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:30:20 PM EST
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https://www.tiktok.com/@thagigglebox/video/7308565067895737631
Joe Rogan's joke about this from 2018. Starts at 0:55. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:33:54 PM EST
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If you want to really blow your mind, count the decades you have lived in.
I am 45, and I was born in 1979. So I've been alive in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, and 2020s. 6 separate decades. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:35:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My grandpa was born in 1911, died in 2013. He as into aviation. Born a few years after the Wright Brothers flight he watched in fascination how aircraft evolved. Shit, I can say the same thing about what I’ve seen with electronics in my lifetime. I’m only 47. My grandmother was alive when the Wright brothers flew, and when Armstrong stepped on the moon. |
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Posted: 9/5/2024 2:45:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember my grandmother, telling me stories that her grandfather had told her. Her grandfather had lost his leg in the Civil War as a very young man. That always brought it home to me how close the Civil War was to us in time. They brought home his leg? |
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