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Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:05:51 PM EDT
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Rule 1- never lead
Rule 2- use Waze
Rule 3- 9 over will rarely get a cop's attention

Some places like the 10 over in town, but you hit the highway and 10 over is probably still ok. Traffic guys here use 15 as their line to stop and cite. I wouldn't stop until it was 20 over and I had no problem staying awake with it.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:11:24 PM EDT
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V1 Gen2 and JBV1 app for the win.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:16:17 PM EDT
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Laughs in Lidatek.

Jay
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Laughs in Lidatek.

Jay
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Actually about to be one^. Got class for cert tomorrow
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:16:56 PM EDT
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Rule 1- never lead
Rule 2- use Waze
Rule 3- 9 over will rarely get a cop's attention

Some places like the 10 over in town, but you hit the highway and 10 over is probably still ok. Traffic guys here use 15 as their line to stop and cite. I wouldn't stop until it was 20 over and I had no problem staying awake with it.
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Rule #1 amazes me on any highway.

Nearly every day on the highway.. Yes please pass me, you are now the HVT, when my detectors flips out I'd love to flash my lights as I slow down, but you'd probably road rage if you don't get pulled over first.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:18:00 PM EDT
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I use the Redline 360 in conjuction with Wayze.  Really only a couple benefits over the Uniden R8, the crowdsourced GPS and the radar detector shielding (can't be detected by a radar detector detector).

The crowdsourced GPS alterts is really nice.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:24:18 PM EDT
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In WA cops cant give chase so speeders simply speed up.

I've seen maybe a dozen highway patrol since 2020. Its like they just gave up.
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Things have changed, lots of state patrol on I5 since Sept/Oct of last year. Hell, I've seen more local PD in my AO in the last 2 weeks than I've seen in 2-3 years.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:33:56 PM EDT
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They aren't the miracle people are making them out to be. On the interstate is about the only useful place. If you are on a curvy road they will get you with instant on.
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Good thing no one made them out to be a miracle in this thread.

I find them useful everywhere, hence the point of this thread. The R8 can detect around curves, through the woods, etc.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:34:27 PM EDT
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My R8 is invisible to them.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:46:55 PM EDT
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Rule 1- never lead
Rule 2- use Waze
Rule 3- 9 over will rarely get a cop's attention

Some places like the 10 over in town, but you hit the highway and 10 over is probably still ok. Traffic guys here use 15 as their line to stop and cite. I wouldn't stop until it was 20 over and I had no problem staying awake with it.
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People bitch about GA but cops rarely look at you hard till you're going 14+, 11-12 over rarely gets any attention. This is largely because there are no points till 15 over and locals can't even enforce less than 10 over outside of school or work zones.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:47:20 PM EDT
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Hahahahaha
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Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:57:14 PM EDT
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Ah, sovereign citizen, this guy.

Am I being detained?

I am traveling!

I have my license right here that I drew with my crayon.

I dont need a license plate when I travel!

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I’m an adult, I don’t need a speed limit sign to tell me what’s safe. I also treat red lights as stop signs when I can safely see traffic from all directions and no cars are coming. Free will

Ah, sovereign citizen, this guy.

Am I being detained?

I am traveling!

I have my license right here that I drew with my crayon.

I dont need a license plate when I travel!

??

Nope. I pay my taxes, vote, etc. I don’t think I’m above the law, just not gonna live my life like a robot. If I’m caught speeding, I’ll get a ticket & pay it. That’s life, every decision is a calculated risk.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 4:58:22 PM EDT
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So?
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 5:05:51 PM EDT
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if you just drive the speed limit, you wouldn't need one. And we'd all be safer.
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Ok dad...
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 5:33:12 PM EDT
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Easily defeated with beam spliters.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 5:34:59 PM EDT
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Ah, sovereign citizen, this guy.

Am I being detained?

I am traveling!

I have my license right here that I drew with my crayon.

I dont need a license plate when I travel!

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Haha.... just like all those illegals they're letting in. They have to follow all that bullshit too right?? haha.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 6:10:49 PM EDT
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I love mine, eBay had a smoking deal on them a few months ago. Just under $600 plus tax, same deal is going on now for Presidents day. 20% off


ETA: Use code: PRESIDENT20 $559.20 plus tax
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Thanks been looking to get one since I got a citation doing 64mph in a 45mph zone at 3:30am back in December. Ticket cost me $140....Amazon is $651 for delivery by 11am but I can wait for $51 saved
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 6:12:12 PM EDT
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Thanks been looking to get one since I got a citation doing 64mph in a 45mph zone at 3:30am back in December. Ticket cost me $140....Amazon is $651 for delivery by 11am but I can wait for $51 saved
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I got mine in 2 days when I ordered.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 6:44:20 PM EDT
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They aren’t the miracle people are making them out to be. On the interstate is about the only useful place. If you are on a curvy road they will get you with instant on.
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So, so wrong.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 7:06:41 PM EDT
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So, so wrong.
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So, so wrong.


Not if they're running a $69 Cobra they got from walmart 15 years ago lol.
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 7:27:58 PM EDT
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They aren’t the miracle people are making them out to be.
On the interstate is about the only useful place.
If you are on a curvy road they will get you with instant on.
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You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

Jay
Link Posted: 2/19/2024 7:57:32 PM EDT
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You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

Jay
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This. There's game changing shit coming.




On the topic of what he said, here's my V1G2 detecting down a hill around a curve through the woods with the cop off axis to the road. Sure it didn't give me 2 miles, but enough to lift off and brake if needed.

"Freeway only" is false.


Link Posted: 2/20/2024 10:28:15 AM EDT
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One technique that I use a lot but I haven't seen mentioned yet....scanning the road as far ahead of you that you can,
and looking for brake lights.

As soon as they spot a police car on the side of the road, people will hit their brakes, even if they're NOT speeding.
Gives a good warning in advance that traffic enforcement is ahead....simple but surprisingly effective.

Question for those that know.... is "K" band obsolete? Everyone in my area seems to run "Ka" band.....
"K" band is mainly collision avoidance systems.

Do radar guns normally have the ability to switch from "K" to "Ka" bands or is it one or the other?

Does using "K" or "Ka" band give better results?

Thanks,
AoD
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 10:33:29 AM EDT
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It's truly wonderful. Annoying that this "free state" let's all cops roll like this, but wonderful that we have the tech to defeat them.
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I love my rural county.  The Sheriff Department doesn’t do ‘road enforcement’ and the TN Highway Patrol doesn’t do secondary roads.  Don’t be an idiot and you won’t have a problem.

Link Posted: 2/20/2024 10:44:28 AM EDT
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I drive the speed limit, but I also carry lots of guns to deal with all the assholes that threaten me because of it. However, I am not a left lane camper because I never drive on any roads with left lanes.

Link Posted: 2/20/2024 10:53:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:01:34 AM EDT
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I drive the speed limit, but I also carry lots of guns to deal with all the assholes that threaten me because of it. However, I am not a left lane camper because I never drive on any roads with left lanes.





Just down the road from my house we had a UGA employee on the way home shoot up some chicks car because she was tailgating him for going slow and passed him in a passing zone. Guess he showed her.

ETA: Holly shit, I just looked to dude up and his house is about 100 yards from where I'm sitting.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:10:51 AM EDT
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Just down the road from my house we had a UGA employee on the way home shoot up some chicks car because she was tailgating him for going slow and passed him in a passing zone. Guess he showed her.

ETA: Holly shit, I just looked to dude up and his house is about 100 yards from where I'm sitting.
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I guess the moral of the story was, don't be a tailgating asshole
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:12:58 AM EDT
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I drive the speed limit, but I also carry lots of guns to deal with all the assholes that threaten me because of it. However, I am not a left lane camper because I never drive on any roads with left lanes.



No shit, huh?
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:21:31 AM EDT
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Love my R8.

For the nimrods that say waze supersedes radar detectors....you're ignorant. I ran both at the same time. My R8 proved twice reliable as waze, at least out in NV.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:23:09 AM EDT
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I guess the moral of the story was, don't be a tailgating asshole
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Just down the road from my house we had a UGA employee on the way home shoot up some chicks car because she was tailgating him for going slow and passed him in a passing zone. Guess he showed her.

ETA: Holly shit, I just looked to dude up and his house is about 100 yards from where I'm sitting.


I guess the moral of the story was, don't be a tailgating asshole


Yeah, because that totally justifies shooting someone's car.


GD keep GDing.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 11:52:13 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:03:49 PM EDT
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LOL “I shot him because he was tailgating!”

Good luck in court with that one.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:05:40 PM EDT
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One technique that I use a lot but I haven't seen mentioned yet....scanning the road as far ahead of you that you can,
and looking for brake lights.

As soon as they spot a police car on the side of the road, people will hit their brakes, even if they're NOT speeding.
Gives a good warning in advance that traffic enforcement is ahead....simple but surprisingly effective.

Question for those that know.... is "K" band obsolete? Everyone in my area seems to run "Ka" band.....
"K" band is mainly collision avoidance systems.

Do radar guns normally have the ability to switch from "K" to "Ka" bands or is it one or the other?

Does using "K" or "Ka" band give better results?

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Mostly K band is false alarms in my area, but every now and then I’ll get one that seems to be a police car.  I have one area in my normal travels where a KA is false, but normally it’s patrol cars.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:14:37 PM EDT
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LOL “I shot him because he was tailgating!”

Good luck in court with that one.
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Yeah, no kidding. That's crazy, I would hope that guy is sitting in prison somewhere. I assume he did not kill the girl?
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:33:59 PM EDT
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At $700 it would be cheaper to pay speeding tickets.

I just keep it around 15mph over the limit and I haven’t had a speeding tickets in 20 years or so.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:40:51 PM EDT
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You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

Jay
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They aren't the miracle people are making them out to be.
On the interstate is about the only useful place.
If you are on a curvy road they will get you with instant on.

You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

Jay
I read somewhere the mfg of Spectre and closed shop....so no more updates or new units
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:43:22 PM EDT
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R4 here which is non-directional R8.  I have used it all over Texas with great success.  On the interstates I can pick up KA DPS like 2-3 miles out easy.

I am now "lazy" and only scan KA since 99.9% of radar in Texas is that.  Keep the detector super quiet until there is something real.

I am a beta tester for V1Driver app which works very nice.
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Yeah, no kidding. That's crazy, I would hope that guy is sitting in prison somewhere. I assume he did not kill the girl?
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LOL “I shot him because he was tailgating!”

Good luck in court with that one.


Yeah, no kidding. That's crazy, I would hope that guy is sitting in prison somewhere. I assume he did not kill the girl?


No, just shot the car. Only caught an agg assault charge but there are no details on his status. Guess I could look him up to see if he's incarcerated.

https://accesswdun.com/article/2020/12/965859/uga-employee-charged-with-firing-shot-that-struck-toccoa-womans-car-dec-11
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 12:45:25 PM EDT
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if you just drive the speed limit, you wouldn't need one. And we'd all be safer.

I'm an adult, I don't need a speed limit sign to tell me what's safe. I also treat red lights as stop signs when I can safely see traffic from all directions and no cars are coming. Free will

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Glad I'm not the only one.
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You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

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@AZCOP
I don't know that I want to drop close to $700 BUT this is a palatable price point if its a good detector... any additional thoughts / feedback on it?
refurb'd DS-1
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I don't know that I want to drop close to $700 BUT this is a palatable price point if its a good detector... any additional thoughts / feedback on it?
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It's a very good price for a refurbished DS-1, but for 50 bucks more, you can get a NIB unit.
FWIW, I paid 400 for each of our DS-1's.

If you get one, be sure to go to the firmware updates page.
Also, if you're confused by all the settings and modes, I'll try and help you out with that.

There are some things you can outright shut off.
Others you can change to 99.9 percent eliminate the Lane Change and Collision Avoidance Systems falsing of other vehicles, and the traffic flow RADAR's in some areas.  
Set up correctly, it is a very quiet unit.

Jay
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While that’s true of the radar detector detector itself the undercover traffic units can spot a detector mounted to the windscreen or dashboard .  I don’t know if they will pull you over or just radio ahead to a marked unit  .
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Unlikely if it's well mounted. I use these, https://www.ebay.com/itm/115528562536, to tuck the detector up as high as possible and you have to walk right up on the car to even see it's there. No way you'd see it heading down the road.
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You forgot about hills.

Curves and Hills became a non issue in the early 80's, when manufacturers (Escort and Whistler Q1000 being the first) started using super heterodyne in their detectors.

Super Heterodyne is no longer used. Modern detectors are now passive, with hardly any emissions given off, which is a big f*ck you to 'Spectre' units.
Which is ironic, because Spectre RDD's give off more emissions than mobile RADAR units.

Radenso has already worked Spectre RDD emissions into Theia.
If only Radenso would release Theia into the wild.

Jay


This. There's game changing shit coming.



I'm still rocking a Beltronics STI
But it works, I know how it works, and I know it's limitations so I stick with it.

I'm hoping I don't get tired of moving it between vehicles till the new shit is out.
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 2:19:48 PM EDT
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Had one in college 30 years ago, don't see the need. On the highway you can safely do 75 with nobody bothering you so long as you're not being reckless weaving in and out, cutting people off, or riding somebody's tail aggressively. Waze gives me a pretty good heads-up. Haven't ever had a speeding ticket in 35+ years driving.

Those units look (1) pretty expensive, and (2) a target for thieves. Do you take it down all the time or do thieves just not care any longer?
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[Double tap....
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Unlikely if it's well mounted. I use these, https://www.ebay.com/itm/115528562536, to tuck the detector up as high as possible and you have to walk right up on the car to even see it's there. No way you'd see it heading down the road.
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Looks nice...is it double sided tape....and does it stick directly to the glass? Could it be removed at some point if needed?

Thanks,
AoD
Link Posted: 2/20/2024 2:35:13 PM EDT
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V1 gang. Worth every penny and has saved my bacon multiple times.
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Unlikely if it's well mounted. I use these, https://www.ebay.com/itm/115528562536, to tuck the detector up as high as possible and you have to walk right up on the car to even see it's there. No way you'd see it heading down the road.
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While that’s true of the radar detector detector itself the undercover traffic units can spot a detector mounted to the windscreen or dashboard .  I don’t know if they will pull you over or just radio ahead to a marked unit  .


Unlikely if it's well mounted. I use these, https://www.ebay.com/itm/115528562536, to tuck the detector up as high as possible and you have to walk right up on the car to even see it's there. No way you'd see it heading down the road.


I ran a V1 in my  mustang behind a 5 percent (non metallic) tint eyebrow and hard wired it through a mirror tap.  There was no way to see the detector's  silhouette in front or behind.  Only the red letter display could be seen with the key on from behind.


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Looks nice...is it double sided tape....and does it stick directly to the glass? Could it be removed at some point if needed?

Thanks,
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Unlikely if it's well mounted. I use these,

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, to tuck the detector up as high as possible and you have to walk right up on the car to even see it's there. No way you'd see it heading down the road.



Looks nice...is it double sided tape....and does it stick directly to the glass? Could it be removed at some point if needed?

Thanks,
AoD

Yes, double sided tape. Tab is bendable to make detector level. I use those on all the vehicles I use the detector in. Mounted as high up as possible, behind the frits if they're there, basically touching the headliner. No outline or visible cords with mirror tap and best location since it gives good positioning at the high point out the front and back.
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