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Posted: 11/19/2023 9:48:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never thought a $90 pocket light would be able to do this I remember when I got a Surefire 6P and thought it was blinding ?? https://us.olicdn.com/image/7-7cpq4r.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp https://us.olicdn.com/image/3-wjt5uq.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp That...is crazy. 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 10:44:35 AM EDT
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Glad others thought of 4sevens as a great light company a few years ago. I had bought a number of there units and all still work but have definitely been surpassed. Thought I was imagining them as a tier 1 edc brand. Lol
Last I remember them saying they were doing was Bluetooth Controllable/ programmable lights. Then the next year at shot show nothing just same ole stuff. The following year the same thing. After that I wrote them off as a dead brand. I need a new edc light. Got a new Olight IE3eos from the IV8888 shoot. Hate the color but so far been impressed with it for the size. It’s somewhat satisfied my search but not what I was looking for. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 10:49:54 AM EDT
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I clicked this thread thinking it was about the auto blow. I'll see myself out
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Posted: 11/19/2023 10:52:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember the old generator powered headlights for bicycles back in the day? I would have killed for a modern LED.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/559744/bicycle_headlight_generator_jpg-3032627.JPG Only worked well downhill with a tailwind. I recall it being a better brake than a light.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 11:19:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: $60 on ebay https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/yYEAAOSwMP1lJEJR/s-l1600.jpg Here's a similar sized multifunction CR123A tailcap button Nitecore for $40 new (I use one as a WML) ebay link https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/pzAAAOSwPipj3Ykt/s-l960.jpg Thank you for the eBay link, though $60 is a tad more than I’m willing to pay. I pocket carried that little CR2 light for many years. I bought the larger CR123 light, but that light was just large enough that it was annoying as a pocket carry light. That little CR2 light disappeared in my pocket. My late father-in-law used to always carry a crappy AA light with him. This was in the day before every cell phone had a light. I asked him why he carried that light. His reply was that he was in the restroom at work when the building lost power. He said it was damn tough to wipe one’s ass in complete darkness. That’s when I started carrying a light daily. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 11:26:24 AM EDT
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And yet with all the great advancements in flashlight technology...The Streamlight Microstreams and its anemic 40 lumens is still raved and recommended here...
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Posted: 11/19/2023 11:47:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy new lights. It's not that much money and whatever you are using sounds like junk That’s what OP was saying. And that you don’t need to spend as much now |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 12:23:38 PM EDT
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Surefire 9xx with Malkoff Devices heads.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 12:48:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet with all the great advancements in flashlight technology...The Streamlight Microstreams and its anemic 40 lumens is still raved and recommended here... The usb micro streams are 250 lumens, I believe, and the macrostream is 500 lumens. Pretty respectable. You’re right about the standard AAA one, though. I think there’s even a thread currently running here, where you can get them for like $12 on Amazon. I’ll pass on the 45 lumens. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:07:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I still got two Surefire 9Ps. Never been opened. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I carried a 4sevens Quark for 10+ years. Fantastic light, and it was so ahead of its time it was still relevant when I retired it. I stumbled across this brand a few years ago, and my god they joy - its the 4sevens Quark (exact UI and form factor) but now with modern LED's and takes 18650's in addition to 2xCR123. Best EDC light on the market in my book. https://www.eagtac.com/product/d25lc2-clicky-mkii/ https://www.eagtac.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/d25lc2rcmkii_product_details_-1.jpg |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:15:15 PM EDT
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I’m sticking with my ancient HID flashlights. I prefer the lightning in a bottle created by tens of thousands of volts, arcing across platinum electrodes, creating a glorious, shimmering plasma.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:19:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My main use of lights is a pocket light that I can clip on my hat at work. I work on elevators with aging eyes. I need all the light I can get. and I REQUIRE a reverse pocket clip which almost no one makes anymore. I am using a slew of discontinued O-light S2 batons and one new s3 but the S3 has uber agressive texture under the pocket clip that has destroyed my hat bill in less than a month. I dont understand why reverse pocket clips are so hard to find. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I carried a 4sevens Quark for 10+ years. Fantastic light, and it was so ahead of its time it was still relevant when I retired it. I stumbled across this brand a few years ago, and my god they joy - its the 4sevens Quark (exact UI and form factor) but now with modern LED's and takes 18650's in addition to 2xCR123. Best EDC light on the market in my book. https://www.eagtac.com/product/d25lc2-clicky-mkii/ https://www.eagtac.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/d25lc2rcmkii_product_details_-1.jpg The Streamlight Microstream and Macrostream both have hat clips.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:20:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A bunch of older 350 lumen TLR-1HLs and 300 lumen black diamond headlamps. Not great, not awesome. I just feel like every time l upgrade a year later the lumens on the new stuff is doubled. 350 lumens? What, are you a cave man with a torch? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:34:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw one of the old 6-D Maglites the other day, look how far we have come. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 1:41:48 PM EDT
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My surefire 300 will light up anything to the woodline in the back of the house. I have a 1,000 lum streamlight stinger that reaches to the barn and up to the old house. My maglite LEDs and 6P/G3s with makoff drop ins are my every day lights. Still got some older less bright flashlights and headlamps because when I work on something up close with my eyesight the way it is right now bright lights are too bright and I can't see good. I've even still got a M3 Tactical Illuminator on a glock.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:12:11 PM EDT
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For those who haven't run across this yet, TTC also tests lights:
 New Milwaukee & Harbor Freight Flashlights vs Streamlight, Nitecore, Coast Here's the link to the playlist of all his flashlight tests: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For those who haven't run across this yet, TTC also tests lights:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoU3jbPcADMHere's the link to the playlist of all his flashlight tests: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n It's crazy how fast the lumens drop during the runtime test. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:55:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a 4 Cell by the bed. I did switch out the bulb to LED . To the ops point....back in the early 90s my buddies and I would share one or two mag lights that we're candles compared to the cheapest Amazon lights today. We were still glad to have them. The cost to convert is worse than grabbing a olight archer or arkfeld to replace the old design. Flashlight tech is in a real good place with a lot of competition. Lots of choices. I just replaced an old stream light stylus pro that I thought was very handy until I used the microstream rechargeable. Half the size, rechargeable, lighter, just better. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 2:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's crazy how fast the lumens drop during the runtime test. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For those who haven't run across this yet, TTC also tests lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoU3jbPcADMHere's the link to the playlist of all his flashlight tests: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n It's crazy how fast the lumens drop during the runtime test. Yes. That's pretty common for those things. Heat protection / batt voltage drop, that sort of thing. I got one of these: https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/gen5x-18v-dual-power-light-cannon  Takes either the batts or 12v cig lighter plug in. Works really well, doesn't dim one bit, it just blinks the light at you when the batt is about to go out. Has a dial on the back that lets you turn the brightness down. I get about ~45m of use out of my 1.5 ah batts on full brightness. It does NOT like rain or wet though. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:01:45 PM EDT
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Don't mean to hijack here.
I have a Mag-Lite 2-D-cell & 5-D-cell lights, both with the "D" prefix S/N. Is it possible to convert them to LED & a rechargeable battery? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:02:22 PM EDT
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Flashlights over the last three decades are a great example of technologically driven deflation. Similar to TV's, cell phones and computers, their price has dropped dramatically while their performance has improved massively.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:21:16 PM EDT
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Sure have come a long way since 6v lanterns were the norm.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:34:56 PM EDT
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Here’s a couple of low cost LED lights I highly recommend.
The Sofirn IF23 flashlight and the Wurkkos HD15 headlamp.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 3:39:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My main use of lights is a pocket light that I can clip on my hat at work. I work on elevators with aging eyes. I need all the light I can get. and I REQUIRE a reverse pocket clip which almost no one makes anymore. I am using a slew of discontinued O-light S2 batons and one new s3 but the S3 has uber agressive texture under the pocket clip that has destroyed my hat bill in less than a month. I dont understand why reverse pocket clips are so hard to find. There are USB rechargeable cap lights on Amazon for $12. I use one daily when walking the dog. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 4:10:50 PM EDT
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I remember hanging out at CPF in the old days when all these LED lights started to emerge. Exciting times.
I'm not suggesting this is Tier 1 but my EDC light the last year has been a Lumintop Tool 2.0. It has been great. Small, multi-mode, comes with a rechargeable 14500 (with USB-C port) and runs on AA batteries also. Came with a hat clip and a couple other accessories for $20. I have a bunch of Fenix lights and they have been good for the most part. My nightstand light is a Fenix PD35 with 18650. For many years, I just used AA lights and Eneloops but I eventually moved on to 14500 and 18650 lights. The battery performance is way better than AA and I can recharge them with my cell phone charger which is basically always with me. Part of the advancement in flashlight tech is better batteries and buck-boost circuits in the lights instead of just connecting a bulb filament across raw battery terminals. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 4:37:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/19/2023 4:41:49 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Never thought a $90 pocket light would be able to do this I remember when I got a Surefire 6P and thought it was blinding https://us.olicdn.com/image/7-7cpq4r.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp https://us.olicdn.com/image/3-wjt5uq.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 4:43:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you gonna post the model? Or does every Olight do that? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Never thought a $90 pocket light would be able to do this I remember when I got a Surefire 6P and thought it was blinding https://us.olicdn.com/image/7-7cpq4r.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp https://us.olicdn.com/image/3-wjt5uq.jpg@600w_600h_90q.webp https://www.olightstore.com/seeker-4-pro-high-power-flashlight |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: this thing is still going strong: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/IMG_4967_jpeg-3033230.JPG but it’s been upgraded https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/IMG_4968_jpeg-3033219.JPG Ha ha ha. I’ve got its relative with an upgraded lamp and a remote switch on my Iraq clone M4:  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:19:55 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My main use of lights is a pocket light that I can clip on my hat at work. I work on elevators with aging eyes. I need all the light I can get. and I REQUIRE a reverse pocket clip which almost no one makes anymore. I am using a slew of discontinued O-light S2 batons and one new s3 but the S3 has uber agressive texture under the pocket clip that has destroyed my hat bill in less than a month. I dont understand why reverse pocket clips are so hard to find. ThruNite Archer Mini is the go to reverse pocket clip hat type light these days. USB C, 3" long, 18 or 400 lumens. 25 bucks on amazon. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:21:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My main use of lights is a pocket light that I can clip on my hat at work. I work on elevators with aging eyes. I need all the light I can get. and I REQUIRE a reverse pocket clip which almost no one makes anymore. I am using a slew of discontinued O-light S2 batons and one new s3 but the S3 has uber agressive texture under the pocket clip that has destroyed my hat bill in less than a month. I dont understand why reverse pocket clips are so hard to find. Fenix has many models with reversible clip. I’m pretty impressed with all the Fenix models that I have. @slappomatt |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:22:07 PM EDT
[#33]
What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights?
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:25:12 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I found 2 of my mag lights this week. I need to throw them away Somewhere I have a maglite with an LED conversion. I will say the batteries last forever. There are tons of smaller brighter lights though. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:43:10 PM EDT
[#35]
Well, sorry that Fleshlight conversions are still stuck in 1984
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:45:11 PM EDT
[#36]
Back in the day I was on Candlepowerforums.com as much as ARFCOM.
Years ago at work on an old job they called me Flashlight Mike. 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:51:05 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights? LEPs? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:52:24 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights? I have the first one Fenix sold and it has insane throw. The downside is the beam is pretty narrow and never really gets much wider. It's like a light saber that's a half mile long. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 5:59:19 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the first one Fenix sold and it has insane throw. The downside is the beam is pretty narrow and never really gets much wider. It's like a light saber that's a half mile long. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights? I have the first one Fenix sold and it has insane throw. The downside is the beam is pretty narrow and never really gets much wider. It's like a light saber that's a half mile long. The Fenix HT30R is a great light. I have it, and the Weltool W4 Pro, love em both. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:07:51 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LEPs are something else. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/84273/Screenshot_20231118-210717_png-3032652.JPG They sure as hell are. I have an HT30R, and the distance it throws is ridiculous considering its size. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:09:53 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And yet with all the great advancements in flashlight technology...The Streamlight Microstreams and its anemic 40 lumens is still raved and recommended here... |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:12:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Just bought an mch duty from cloud defensive. It’s amazing compared to the stuff i bought 10 years ago.
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:48:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: While light technology improvement has been impressive, I think we all can agree that the technological improvements to brussels sprouts over the last 20 years is the real accomplishment here. Kidding aside, I will say, the technology improvemetns have bene INSANE. Look at this shit: Green LED laser 500 lumen flashlight USB Lithium rechargeable built in battery. 2" long, 1" high $25 https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Se08EBAyL._AC_SL1500_.jpg I bought a pile of them and just leave them mounted on most gun's I have, that have a rail. It costs nothing. It weights nothing. It adds almost no bulk to most any rifle. $25, 500 lumen. (plus laser). There's several guys making various flavors of these to chose from, this is just one example. Just wow. @lazyengineer what brand is this combo? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:53:52 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @lazyengineer what brand is this combo? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: While light technology improvement has been impressive, I think we all can agree that the technological improvements to brussels sprouts over the last 20 years is the real accomplishment here. Kidding aside, I will say, the technology improvemetns have bene INSANE. Look at this shit: Green LED laser 500 lumen flashlight USB Lithium rechargeable built in battery. 2" long, 1" high $25 https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61Se08EBAyL._AC_SL1500_.jpg I bought a pile of them and just leave them mounted on most gun's I have, that have a rail. It costs nothing. It weights nothing. It adds almost no bulk to most any rifle. $25, 500 lumen. (plus laser). There's several guys making various flavors of these to chose from, this is just one example. Just wow. @lazyengineer what brand is this combo? Posted at bottom of page 1. It's Chinesium of course, but so far so good. Amd the "500" I apparently "450" in the actual texh details. I will say it's stupid bright for such a tiny light, and that number might even be true - maybe. It's way brighter than you will expect just looking at it, I'll say that. On board USB battery, which means more efficicient space usage battery density - but when it's dead, your done. And I can't say how long it's shelf life is on a charge. But again, on the cheap, it's $25. |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 6:55:56 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights? 0 flood and a hotspot that is about 3” across at 50 feet.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 7:26:16 PM EDT
[#46]
I need to upgrade my weapon lights….
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Posted: 11/19/2023 7:57:42 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The usb micro streams are 250 lumens, I believe, and the macrostream is 500 lumens. Pretty respectable. You’re right about the standard AAA one, though. I think there’s even a thread currently running here, where you can get them for like $12 on Amazon. I’ll pass on the 45 lumens. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And yet with all the great advancements in flashlight technology...The Streamlight Microstreams and its anemic 40 lumens is still raved and recommended here... The usb micro streams are 250 lumens, I believe, and the macrostream is 500 lumens. Pretty respectable. You’re right about the standard AAA one, though. I think there’s even a thread currently running here, where you can get them for like $12 on Amazon. I’ll pass on the 45 lumens. I just ordered another anemic 45 lumen Microstream... This one's for an experiment, though.  I found out that you can get 200+ lumens out of them by using a 10440 instead of AAA, which makes sense because that's basically what's in the 250 lumen USB version. Now I just need to find a reputable brand of battery. Everything on Amazon looks rather suspect. 
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Posted: 11/19/2023 7:58:56 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted: I remember the mid 2000’s reading here than anything above 100 lumens will blind you in a CQB scenario. Incandescent was still superior to LED. Now a $17 two pack of LED headlamps have 1200 lumens. The advancement of tech with flashlights is mind boggling. What was cutting edge 3-5 years ago is downright antiquated. All of my lights are old tech, but I feel like I’m wasting my money buying anything new because it will be out of date in a year or two. Anyone care to explain what the hell is going on in the flashlight world? Will we ever plateau? I’ve recently realized I need a few headlamps. What do you recommend? |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 8:04:42 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For those who haven't run across this yet, TTC also tests lights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoU3jbPcADMHere's the link to the playlist of all his flashlight tests: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYka5JBKPLHEfG1w1WC_bbN4vQglwyp5n I added a protac 2.0 to my list due to that video |
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Posted: 11/19/2023 8:06:05 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 0 flood and a hotspot that is about 3” across at 50 feet.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/154626/IMG_4483_jpeg-3033389.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What do you guys know about "laser" flashlights? 0 flood and a hotspot that is about 3” across at 50 feet.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/154626/IMG_4483_jpeg-3033389.JPG Early gen LED flashlights were like this. They've gone to a lot of trouble to get more flood out of the tech to fix it. Not a big fan personally of laser-focused lights; it's dark - how do I know where to point it? What else is around? LED is so potent, having a bit of dispersion is good, and you can afford it. |
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