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Posted: 8/6/2022 2:42:19 PM EDT
Since nitrogen fertilizers are now an enemy of the planet according to liberals and the World Economic Forum, here's a good documentary about the chemist who created them

The Man Who Killed Millions and Saved Billions

Link Posted: 8/6/2022 2:43:48 PM EDT
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When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy.


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Fertilizers aren't chemicals?
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 3:18:15 PM EDT
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When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy.


Fertilizers aren't chemicals?

I think it’s more of an “ATM Machine” thing.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:00:28 PM EDT
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More accurate to call it synthetic fertilizer.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:03:16 PM EDT
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Pretty much everything is a chemical.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:08:31 PM EDT
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Like water.

Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle
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Like water.
Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle
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Like water.
Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle
Scare term.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:11:10 PM EDT
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Can't I just bury dead fish next to my plants?
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:12:44 PM EDT
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Yeah, it’s not rocket science
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:15:47 PM EDT
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I keep plowing money into nitrogen fertilizer companies, WEF be damned. Food makes the world happier than owning nothing.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:18:49 PM EDT
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Like water.

Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle
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Pretty much everything is a chemical.

Like water.

Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle

You mean the industrial solvent Dihydrogen Monoxide, right?

That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:19:51 PM EDT
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Needed to be said.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:22:31 PM EDT
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That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:33:54 PM EDT
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More accurate to call it synthetic fertilizer.

That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer.


I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving.

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Nothing synthetic about it. 100% natural. I have produced 100's of thousands of tons of DAP.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:37:37 PM EDT
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I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving.

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Same.
It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:37:51 PM EDT
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Alcohol is synthetic chemical water
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:43:40 PM EDT
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It's so weird.

One Nazi made it possible to feed the world.

Another Nazi made it possible to leave the world (on rockets).


Weird.

But Hitler made a hippie car, so...boom!...negates the fuck out of all of that.

Fookin' Nazis.


Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:44:02 PM EDT
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Fascinating
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:45:04 PM EDT
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Saying 'chemical fertilizer' designates that it is not a natural fertilizer such as guano.  Before the Haber process there was a massive industry in mining guano from tropical islands as that was about the best source
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:53:17 PM EDT
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Technically you are correct, but the world chemical has been corrupted to mean dangerous poisonous or flat out bad in many ways. When in reality these "chemical fertilizers" are the foundation of feeding the entire globe.

How about the term modern fertilizer
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 4:59:12 PM EDT
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Without Haber Germany war effort would of fell apart way earlier for lack of explosives in WW1. He was very loyal to Germany not putting up with any insult to Germany greatness. Lot of suspicions about his death. Hitler comes to power then Haber has a very well timed heart attack. Could of been a incredible ace in Germany hand but Haber was Jewish.
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That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death.
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Considering the dew points most of the summer in the midwest I'm about to agree with you
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:01:21 PM EDT
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Fertilizers aren't chemicals?


I like to say that nuclear aircraft carriers are all natural.

It is true.

And I'll stand by that statement.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:02:18 PM EDT
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You mean the industrial solvent Dihydrogen Monoxide, right?

That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death.
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Pretty much everything is a chemical.

Like water.

Chemical fertilizer = assault rifle

You mean the industrial solvent Dihydrogen Monoxide, right?

That stuff is dangerous. Colorless, odorless, tasteless, and inhalation can cause death.
We need to ban this dangerous chemical NOW!
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:06:45 PM EDT
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Hell, with all the fertilizer in the water ways, lakes, and oceans you should be able to just water your plants.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:13:25 PM EDT
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They mined phosphate rock and ground into a powder and used that for phosphorous until they realized that
it would be more soluble when reacted with sulfuric acid and then realized they could react phosphoric acid and
ground phosphate rock and make GTSP  Later they realized i would be complete when they reacted the phosphoric
acid with anhydrous ammonia to make MAP and DAP
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:16:07 PM EDT
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A story driven by an agenda for synthetic meats and bug paste.

They don't vilify Einstein in the same way, convincing America to enter into the arms race to build the first atomic bomb.

I don't think many people get to the end of their life and not have something they wish they hadn't done. We often say the difference between a hero and a villain is the winner who writes the history book. Would he be portrayed as such if he was British or American?

But fertilizer is bad. Get rid of it and embrace the fallacy that we can grow enough food in our backyards to sustain ourselves.

Might had been able to make that turn 50 years ago, but you're a long way from convincing the current generation to leave easy air conditioned jobs and go toil in the dirt.

Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:23:16 PM EDT
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They mined phosphate rock and ground into a powder and used that for phosphorous until they realized that
it would be more soluble when reacted with sulfuric acid and then realized they could react phosphoric acid and
ground phosphate rock and make GTSP  Later they realized i would be complete when they reacted the phosphoric
acid with anhydrous ammonia to make MAP and DAP
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Don't forget APP for us liquid fans
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:33:30 PM EDT
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“Saved billions” to… die of something else?
Or even just saved parents who had more offspring who then were beyond the (newly expanded) capacity of the land.
I haven’t really sat down and done the math, but I wonder.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:36:00 PM EDT
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Here's a guy that fed millions, despite opposition and even sabotage by the authorities.
Yet most people have never heard of him.

Norman Borlaug
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 5:58:05 PM EDT
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Assault fertilizer is white supremacy.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:02:51 PM EDT
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For your backyard garden, yes.  Works great.

If you're trying to economically grow 1,000 acres of wheat it's kind of difficult.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:03:43 PM EDT
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Here's a guy that fed millions, despite opposition and even sabotage by the authorities.
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Norman Borlaug
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Borlaug in next on the list. Don't think they'll let that one slide. Especially once they figure out he did a lot of his work while in Texas.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:07:28 PM EDT
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A story driven by an agenda for synthetic meats and bug paste.

They don't vilify Einstein in the same way, convincing America to enter into the arms race to build the first atomic bomb.

I don't think many people get to the end of their life and not have something they wish they hadn't done. We often say the difference between a hero and a villain is the winner who writes the history book. Would he be portrayed as such if he was British or American?

But fertilizer is bad. Get rid of it and embrace the fallacy that we can grow enough food in our backyards to sustain ourselves.

Might had been able to make that turn 50 years ago, but you're a long way from convincing the current generation to leave easy air conditioned jobs and go toil in the dirt.

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There are lots of youtube videos with younger people quitting their rat race jobs to start permaculture, small scale farming, etc due to the enjoyment and rewarding nature of that work. They create content on YouTube so that helps their incomes, but it is definitely a trend to a certain degree.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:10:40 PM EDT
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It's so weird.

One Nazi made it possible to feed the world.

Another Nazi made it possible to leave the world (on rockets).


Weird.

But Hitler made a hippie car, so...boom!...negates the fuck out of all of that.

Fookin' Nazis.


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Are you saying Fritz Haber was a National Socialist or is this a reference to someone else?
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Norman Borlaug
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Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:14:47 PM EDT
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Black Fertilizer Matters


Its actually a thing using humic acids.  Humic acid act like a glue in the soil keeping fertilizer where they are needed and prevent leaching.  They also turn everything black.
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:18:37 PM EDT
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It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact.
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I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving.


Same.
It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact.


Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers arent all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What?
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:25:27 PM EDT
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Nothing synthetic about it. 100% natural. I have produced 100's of thousands of tons of DAP.
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Nothing synthetic about it. 100% natural. I have produced 100's of thousands of tons of DAP.



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More accurate to call it synthetic fertilizer.

That’s like calling it chemical fertilizer.


Where do you harvest it in the wild?
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:25:59 PM EDT
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It's funny how the last few years seem to have taken notes from The Last Centurion.
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Phosphate rock is mined in Central FL, ammonia is pulled from natural gas. Pot ash is mined. That is pulling it out from the
wild as you can get.
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You down with APP?
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McVeigh...
Link Posted: 8/6/2022 6:30:44 PM EDT
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I think it’s more of an “ATM Machine” thing.
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When people repeat the words "chemical fertilizer" they are repeating idiocy.


Fertilizers aren't chemicals?

I think it’s more of an “ATM Machine” thing.


That would be a killer EDM band name.
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Southwest already did, that's why were purging Mead.
For the children.
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Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers aren't all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What?
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I call it the stuff that pays my bills, and keeps the rest of the world from starving.


Same.
It seems that people have heard that “fertilizer is made from oil!” so often that they think it’s a fact.


Wait. People think that? I mean, I know fertilizers aren't all made of chicken or cow shit....but oil? What?

Chemical plants react natural gas and water to produce the hydrogen to needed to feed into the Haber-Bosh process to produce ammonia. So no, oil isn't used but natural gas from the oil fields is used.
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Phosphate rock is mined in Central FL, ammonia is pulled from natural gas. Pot ash is mined. That is pulling it out from the
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No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild.
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Guano mines. Used to be common all over the equatorial islands

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guano
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No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild.
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Phosphate rock is mined in Central FL, ammonia is pulled from natural gas. Pot ash is mined. That is pulling it out from the
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No, I didn’t ask where you get the materials to synthesize nitrogen fertilizer from. I asked where you harvest nitrogen fertilizer in the wild.

N comes from the air.  Banditman has moved on to P and K which is mined from the earth.  Then there is S which actually kind of is a product of oil production or by product from sour gas.

Then there is melorganite, that is human shit.
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