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Posted: 2/8/2021 5:32:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just purchased a Glock 43Xmos and want to get a red dot for it , are the Trijicon’s worth the coin looking at $500/600 depending on the model , I work close to B&H photo and checked out the RMRcc 3.25 MOA dot that they have in stock they can get any Trijicon sight within two days as they have a warehouse in NJ , any advise would be greatly appreciated fairly new to target shooting with hand guns . yes theyre worth it. dont cheap out and get a sig or holosun |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 5:33:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just purchased a Glock 43Xmos and want to get a red dot for it , are the Trijicon’s worth the coin looking at $500/600 depending on the model , I work close to B&H photo and checked out the RMRcc 3.25 MOA dot that they have in stock they can get any Trijicon sight within two days as they have a warehouse in NJ , any advise would be greatly appreciated fairly new to target shooting with hand guns . A 43x is on my short list for when stuff becomes available again. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 5:42:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went to Trijicons first SHOT show seminar for the RMR. I used one they loaned me for a year. Some of the problems I experienced, like the dot blinking under recoil, they have solved. They solve the issue with water on the emitter yet? Blowing rain off your red dot sights emitter is not part of a normal draw stroke. Why is it raining in your pants? |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 5:44:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it raining in your pants? Its sweat from going up 3 steps because they had no ramp for his mobility scooter |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 5:52:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: yes theyre worth it. dont cheap out and get a sig or holosun Right, unless, you know, you want reticle options, or waterproof housing, or titanium alloy housing, or easy battery change. Recent thread: Take a look at the new Holosun HS507C-X2 ACSS Vulcan pistol RDS!!! |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:14:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, unless, you know, you want reticle options, or waterproof housing, or titanium alloy housing, or easy battery change. Recent thread: Take a look at the new Holosun HS507C-X2 ACSS Vulcan pistol RDS!!! reticle options are largely a gimmick, 3 moa dot works. waterproof housing....so you have personally had a trijicon fail due to water damage? titanium housing....lol..... battery change yeah...trijicon needs to figure out how to fix that because it sucks to remove the optic to change the battery. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:17:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why is it raining in your pants? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I went to Trijicons first SHOT show seminar for the RMR. I used one they loaned me for a year. Some of the problems I experienced, like the dot blinking under recoil, they have solved. They solve the issue with water on the emitter yet? Blowing rain off your red dot sights emitter is not part of a normal draw stroke. Why is it raining in your pants? I've found that any time that I'd have to blow water out of my red dot I'd also have issues with water on the irons. IE, a shitload of water that's in everything and generally making my day suck. I've blown plenty of water out of iron sights while shooting in heavy rain. No biggie. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:18:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Right, unless, you know, you want reticle options, or waterproof housing, or titanium alloy housing, or easy battery change. Recent thread: Take a look at the new Holosun HS507C-X2 ACSS Vulcan pistol RDS!!! Lol GD talks big about China bad, but gobble up every made in china thing they can even when other options exust. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:24:37 PM EST
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1. I don't think I want one tucked into my waistband.
2. I would think that RDS would be difficult to ensure you can set brightness for all conditions, meaning that some times of day would be either too bright to see the dot or too dark to see the target. 3. I've never needed an RDS at pistol engagement ranges before to hit minute of shit bird. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:46:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: reticle options are largely a gimmick, 3 moa dot works. waterproof housing....so you have personally had a trijicon fail due to water damage? titanium housing....lol..... battery change yeah...trijicon needs to figure out how to fix that because it sucks to remove the optic to change the battery. 1. Not everyone has your eyes, or mine, for that matter. 2. I have never been struck by lightning. However, I would hesitate before accepting an invitation to play a round of golf during a thunderstorm. If I can have IP67 without a cost penalty, why would I not want that peace of mind? 3. Stronger than aluminum alloy, without the weight penalty of steel. If Trijicon ever produces an RMR model with a Ti housing, the hosannahs sung will shake the dust off the rafters at SHOT. Since it's Holosun, lol. 4. Triji doesn't need to "figure out" anything, except how to not be hide-bound by their original design. There are other battery access methods, besides the side-loading tray Holosun uses. But, "good 'nuff". In general, more options are better, at least from my perspective. I'll give Trijicon this: they're not afraid to file lawsuits . |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:48:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol GD talks big about China bad, but gobble up every made in china thing they can even when other options exust. I, too, prefer to signal my virtue by purchasing inferior products. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 6:56:42 PM EST
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I had both Holosun 507C and a RMR type 2. Sold the RMR.
Other then the drop test onto concrete multiple times from shoulder height (something I’ll never do, only judging sage dynamics), the RMR did nothing better and was beat in every category in my subjective opinion. If you’re gonna argue the shoulder height drop test is important but waterproofness isn’t, I disagree. I’m more likely to shoot in rain than to drop it directly on the optic on concrete multiple times. If Holosun made a SRO style optic, I wouldnt hesitate selling the SRO as well. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:03:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, that makes more sense. 20' would be about the outside limit for point shooting. So what did you think of Cowan's report? My pistol instructor also mentioned that the "average self-defense shooting" distance thing came from a report citing incidences where an officer was killed, and not necessarily representative of self-defense shootings or prescriptive for training. He spent a career in a counterterrorism unit so he seemed to know his stuff. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:06:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what did you think of Cowan's report? My pistol instructor also mentioned that the "average self-defense shooting" distance thing came from a report citing incidences where an officer was killed, and not necessarily representative of self-defense shootings or prescriptive for training. He spent a career in a counterterrorism unit so he seemed to know his stuff. I have not had the chance to read it yet. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:20:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: reticle options are largely a gimmick, 3 moa dot works. waterproof housing....so you have personally had a trijicon fail due to water damage? titanium housing....lol..... battery change yeah...trijicon needs to figure out how to fix that because it sucks to remove the optic to change the battery. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Right, unless, you know, you want reticle options, or waterproof housing, or titanium alloy housing, or easy battery change. Recent thread: Take a look at the new Holosun HS507C-X2 ACSS Vulcan pistol RDS!!! reticle options are largely a gimmick, 3 moa dot works. waterproof housing....so you have personally had a trijicon fail due to water damage? titanium housing....lol..... battery change yeah...trijicon needs to figure out how to fix that because it sucks to remove the optic to change the battery. Ive had a rmr become completely unusable in the rain. The water on the emitter and fogged lense made even using buis through the lense impossible. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 7:33:04 PM EST
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Quoted: Your gun, your business. But it seems everyone is adding more attachments to their ccw. Admittedly, I did add night sights but that did not affect the bulk. I also understand the red dots on AR's. I'm not getting the red dots on CCW's. Did I miss the memo? It seems like optics on a CCW adds bulk like a light. Handguns suck. Pistol rounds are not very effective fight stoppers. Since carrying around a rifle all day in not practical though, I carry a handgun instead. Since I am forced to carry a handgun and handguns suck, I’m going to leverage every advantage I can to make a handgun suck less. This means an upgraded trigger, match barrel, beveled and flared magwell, aggressive grip texture, extended controls, Surefire X300U-B, Trijicon RMR, and a 20 round magazine with 23 round magazines as back ups. With a proper belt, quality holster, I can carry AIWB comfortably all day. I wear a Blue Alpha Gear low profile inner belt or a Hanks gun belt paired with a phlster floodlight holster.  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:20:13 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Handguns suck. Pistol rounds are not very effective fight stoppers. Since carrying around a rifle all day in not practical though, I carry a handgun instead. Since I am forced to carry a handgun and handguns suck, I’m going to leverage every advantage I can to make a handgun suck less. This means an upgraded trigger, match barrel, beveled and flared magwell, aggressive grip texture, extended controls, Surefire X300U-B, Trijicon RMR, and a 20 round magazine with 23 round magazines as back ups. With a proper belt, quality holster, I can carry AIWB comfortably all day. I wear a Blue Alpha Gear low profile inner belt or a Hanks gun belt paired with a phlster floodlight holster. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/04126507-8A5A-4F9F-B255-049CF4B85736_jpe-1816856.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/0C37FA8B-0FFD-44DD-B55A-872F20297954_jpe-1816861.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/5862C0DF-3E2E-44B4-BC5F-971457E79736_jpe-1816862.JPG LOL looks like you carry it alot. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:27:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL looks like you carry it alot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Handguns suck. Pistol rounds are not very effective fight stoppers. Since carrying around a rifle all day in not practical though, I carry a handgun instead. Since I am forced to carry a handgun and handguns suck, I’m going to leverage every advantage I can to make a handgun suck less. This means an upgraded trigger, match barrel, beveled and flared magwell, aggressive grip texture, extended controls, Surefire X300U-B, Trijicon RMR, and a 20 round magazine with 23 round magazines as back ups. With a proper belt, quality holster, I can carry AIWB comfortably all day. I wear a Blue Alpha Gear low profile inner belt or a Hanks gun belt paired with a phlster floodlight holster. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/04126507-8A5A-4F9F-B255-049CF4B85736_jpe-1816856.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/0C37FA8B-0FFD-44DD-B55A-872F20297954_jpe-1816861.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73787/5862C0DF-3E2E-44B4-BC5F-971457E79736_jpe-1816862.JPG LOL looks like you carry it alot. @jagleaso LOL ASSumptions by you. It was recently refinished in Cerakote Elite Fed brown. Prior to the refinish.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:36:26 PM EST
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was your pristine knife refinished too?
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:39:11 PM EST
[#20]
Looks like I'm going to go with the Trijicon RMRCC red dot 6.5 MOA but its currently back ordered
and won't be available till April anyone have one ? it's waterproof and lifetime warranty $569 from B and H photo . |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:40:44 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: was your pristine knife refinished too? It was a new knife. Not sure what point you’re trying to make other that being a troll. Just because something looks new doesn’t mean it’s not used. I’m not a broke bitch, when something gets worn out it gets refinished or replaced. Since you’re so caught up on wear, note the wear on the streamlight micro that I EDC.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:41:27 PM EST
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL looks like you carry it alot. Are our handguns supposed to look like they've been tossed down the driveway? My Roland has thousands of rounds through it, I clean it but it's still only barely worn. *shrug*  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:41:49 PM EST
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Hah, relax man. I'm just giving you a hard time. You don't need to prove anything to internet trolls.
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:44:07 PM EST
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It’s funny because we had these same arguments years ago about red dots on AR’s. Everything a red dot does for you on a fighting rifle, it does for you on a fighting handgun.
And yet still people are saying the exact same things they did to promote sticking with irons only on rifles. I’ve been using one on duty for three years now. The single biggest advantage it gives me is target focus through the entirety of the engagement process. Follow that closely by precision you can’t achieve with irons and it’s definitely worth putting the training in to get up to speed with one. Do you NEED one? No. Are they a force multiplier? Absolutely. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:50:35 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks like I'm going to go with the Trijicon RMRCC red dot 6.5 MOA but its currently back ordered and won't be available till April anyone have one ? it's waterproof and lifetime warranty $569 from B and H photo . I have a CC out with a 365 slide getting milled. My plan is to carry a 365 with a standard slide, RMRcc paired with an XL grip, Surefire XSC. 13 rounds from the draw and 15 round back up mags. The heat in the summer makes this a little more easy to carry. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 9:56:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s funny because we had these same arguments years ago about red dots on AR’s. Everything a red dot does for you on a fighting rifle, it does for you on a fighting handgun. And yet still people are saying the exact same things they did to promote sticking with irons only on rifles. I’ve been using one on duty for three years now. The single biggest advantage it gives me is target focus through the entirety of the engagement process. Follow that closely by precision you can’t achieve with irons and it’s definitely worth putting the training in to get up to speed with one. Do you NEED one? No. Are they a force multiplier? Absolutely. I think a lot of people try to justify not spending the money by doing mental gymnastics trying to convince themselves that iron sights are better because etc. Red dots are a huge force multiplier. I’m faster and more accurate than I was with irons. The red dot also forced me to maintain consistency. You have to have consistency through your draw stroke, presentation and trigger press. If you don’t, it is easy to lose the dot. Once you build up that muscle memory though you are faster and far more accurate. University study red dots vs iron sights on handguns https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2011_Norwich_Study_RMRvIronSights.pdf |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:09:34 PM EST
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I took a free 1 day class with Vortex late last year in there indoor training center. It was an 8 hr Pistol class.
I took my Gen 3 G19 with the Holosun red dot I picked up earlier. I did not have a holster, so they burrowed me one. The class was great in that they focused on fundementals of draw and grip and sight alignment and trigger control. They had several timed drills along with accuracy drllls. Using that red dot , I could really see a huge difference in my shooting. My speed was as good as it always was and my accuracy was much improved. As I get older, focusing on the front ight is getting harder... Having a RDS is changing that. and unlike many who are always on the hunt for the perfect round dot.... I've never seen a perfectly round dot....and I'm fine with that, as I've cracked the code on the red dot a long time ago... It's a simple reference point to where you want the rd to go... it never had to be perfectly round to work, and you never had to laser focus on the dot. You simply look thru the dot to the target and when the red dot like reference point is where you want a rd to go, you press the trigger. It's no different for a pistol anymore then a rifle. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:26:19 PM EST
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I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police departments, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore.
If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:28:02 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police department, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore. If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:46:42 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think a lot of people try to justify not spending the money by doing mental gymnastics trying to convince themselves that iron sights are better because etc. Red dots are a huge force multiplier. I'm faster and more accurate than I was with irons. The red dot also forced me to maintain consistency. You have to have consistency through your draw stroke, presentation and trigger press. If you don't, it is easy to lose the dot. Once you build up that muscle memory though you are faster and far more accurate. University study red dots vs iron sights on handguns https://soldiersystems.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/2011_Norwich_Study_RMRvIronSights.pdf I can't say I disagree. I tried the rds early on,early 2000s on a gun too big for my hands, with no irons and a Burris fast fire. I understand. I had no feel for if I was properly gripping the gun to point properly, no sights to find the grip that was right and only a Finicky dot I took forever to find. Not a great first experience and I was open to the idea, looking for every advantage. At that time it didn't feel like an advantage but a detriment so I can kinda understand. Everyone has to find their own way, I broke down when a platform was presented that I was comfortable with ready to accept rds. My sight, or fine focus, was leaving me at arms length and the rds offered an advantage. Took a second to work out deficiencies with my presentation but not long as there wasn't much of one. I'm good now and groups that had widened and times that had grown have now shrank back to near my younger more proficient years. Just need more practice now as always. No one knows everything and no one is beyond improvement. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:53:12 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police departments, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore. If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it. IMO, a RDS is not a crutch. A visible laser is. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:56:50 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s funny because we had these same arguments years ago about red dots on AR’s. Everything a red dot does for you on a fighting rifle, it does for you on a fighting handgun. And yet still people are saying the exact same things they did to promote sticking with irons only on rifles. I’ve been using one on duty for three years now. The single biggest advantage it gives me is target focus through the entirety of the engagement process. Follow that closely by precision you can’t achieve with irons and it’s definitely worth putting the training in to get up to speed with one. Do you NEED one? No. Are they a force multiplier? Absolutely.  |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:58:02 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO, a RDS is not a crutch. A visible laser is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police departments, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore. If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it. IMO, a RDS is not a crutch. A visible laser is.  
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Posted: 2/8/2021 10:58:12 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: IMO, a RDS is not a crutch. A visible laser is. As far as a laser, I hate them on working guns, but they are awesome for training. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 11:04:05 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police departments, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore. If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 11:04:46 PM EST
[#36]
Back when I carried a j frame as a BUG they had CT laser grips. The way I saw it, if I’m grabbing my BUG I’m probably already fucked, I may not even be able to get the gun up for a true sight picture. I want every advantage I can leverage. So tritium front sights, CT laser grips, and Apex trigger jobs were standard on my 342Ti and 340 M&P. I don’t want to fight fair ever.
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Posted: 2/8/2021 11:06:58 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Back when I carried a j frame as a BUG they had CT laser grips. The way I saw it, if I'm grabbing my BUG I'm probably already fucked, I may not even be able to get the gun up for a true sight picture. I want every advantage I can leverage. So tritium front sights, CT laser grips, and Apex trigger jobs were standard on my 342Ti and 340 M&P. I don't want to fight fair ever. |
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Posted: 2/8/2021 11:43:24 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't like it, I think its a crutch, but then I've shot more rounds than most medium sized police departments, so sight picture and trigger control just aren't really a thing anymore. If it helps you, and you have a back up in case the cute little doodad fails, I say go for it. Weird flex but OK. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:07:39 AM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You might be right.. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE RDS on rifles. I just don't know how functional it would be on a pistol for me. I'll try it one of these years when my buddies and I can afford to shoot again. As far as a laser, I hate them on working guns, but they are awesome for training. I have a lot of questions about your derp. Are you shooting more than... whatever... or are you not shooting at all? Is any of this massive amount of shooting done on timed drills? How in the hell are you using a laser for training? Never seen an visible light aiming laser used in that capacity no what you really expect to do with it. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:13:18 AM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I took a free 1 day class with Vortex late last year in there indoor training center. It was an 8 hr Pistol class. I took my Gen 3 G19 with the Holosun red dot I picked up earlier. I did not have a holster, so they burrowed me one. The class was great in that they focused on fundementals of draw and grip and sight alignment and trigger control. They had several timed drills along with accuracy drllls. Using that red dot , I could really see a huge difference in my shooting. My speed was as good as it always was and my accuracy was much improved. As I get older, focusing on the front ight is getting harder... Having a RDS is changing that. and unlike many who are always on the hunt for the perfect round dot.... I've never seen a perfectly round dot....and I'm fine with that, as I've cracked the code on the red dot a long time ago... It's a simple reference point to where you want the rd to go... it never had to be perfectly round to work, and you never had to laser focus on the dot. You simply look thru the dot to the target and when the red dot like reference point is where you want a rd to go, you press the trigger. It's no different for a pistol anymore then a rifle. Thank you for posting this! The tiny amount of time that I've looked through red dots pushed me away from them. I also don't have great vision and am nowhere near a high level pistol shooter (training and practice are needed). I'm going to give them another shot, on a rifle first since I have at least a small idea how to shoot a rifle. If I don't get an MOS Glock this year I guess the next question is which of my 2 Glocks should I get milled? -gen 4 17, reliable so far -gen 4 22 with a conversion barrel, haven't shot it yet The 22 would seem to be a more versatile option. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:15:00 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a lot of questions about your derp. Are you shooting more than... whatever... or are you not shooting at all? Is any of this massive amount of shooting done on timed drills? How in the hell are you using a laser for training? Never seen an visible light aiming laser used in that capacity no what you really expect to do with it. 
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:22:36 AM EST
[#42]
I'm going to get one and see how I like it.
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:30:24 AM EST
[#43]
I AIWB a hellcat with RD and weapon light. 0 issues. I will never again EDC a firearm without a RD.
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:41:19 AM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know, you've talked about presentation. In regards to handguns with rds. You could work on your presentation for selling your viewpoint because it's off. I agree with you mostly but your presentation is so off I wanna smack you by reflex when I read your posts because you're degrading, insulting and you come off as a know it all. I realize there's more to you and you have experience. Just work on your presentation and you'll gain more converts. Ok |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 12:53:39 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You know, you've talked about presentation. In regards to handguns with rds. You could work on your presentation for selling your viewpoint because it's off. I agree with you mostly but your presentation is so off I wanna smack you by reflex when I read your posts because you're degrading, insulting and you come off as a know it all. I realize there's more to you and you have experience. Just work on your presentation and you'll gain more converts. Ok |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 3:54:11 AM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to get one and see how I like it. Same. Bought a Brownells RMR-cut Glock slide, now just need the RDS. If I like it, I might get 'em for all my Glocks, as funds allow. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 5:41:21 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ive had a rmr become completely unusable in the rain. The water on the emitter and fogged lense made even using buis through the lense impossible. This. Not to mention the number of RMR's I've seen shit the bed. As much as I hate to say this, the Holosun optics are jumping past everyone else in the market. I know of a couple of large agencies that would be adopting their enclosed emitter optic right now if they had a US manufactured version. I'm particularly fond of the green reticle optics because they work much better with my vision issues. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 5:56:20 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You have a good message. Your presentation Is off. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You know, you've talked about presentation. In regards to handguns with rds. You could work on your presentation for selling your viewpoint because it's off. I agree with you mostly but your presentation is so off I wanna smack you by reflex when I read your posts because you're degrading, insulting and you come off as a know it all. I realize there's more to you and you have experience. Just work on your presentation and you'll gain more converts. Ok Very well put. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 6:29:59 AM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I tried it but it wasn't for me and my needs. |
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Posted: 2/9/2021 6:37:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Not to mention the number of RMR's I've seen shit the bed. As much as I hate to say this, the Holosun optics are jumping past everyone else in the market. I know of a couple of large agencies that would be adopting their enclosed emitter optic right now if they had a US manufactured version. I'm particularly fond of the green reticle optics because they work much better with my vision issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ive had a rmr become completely unusable in the rain. The water on the emitter and fogged lense made even using buis through the lense impossible. This. Not to mention the number of RMR's I've seen shit the bed. As much as I hate to say this, the Holosun optics are jumping past everyone else in the market. I know of a couple of large agencies that would be adopting their enclosed emitter optic right now if they had a US manufactured version. I'm particularly fond of the green reticle optics because they work much better with my vision issues. Still made in China. For that reason alone I’m skipping them. Also their emitter is open like that on the RMR making it just as susceptible to the same failures. The RMR is a great optic. That said Trijicon really needs to come out with a closed optic. |
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