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Link Posted: 4/27/2019 1:25:39 PM EDT
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Its called ad hominen, a logical fallacy.

Everything Warner says is true, so you have to call him a bigot.  They can't refute the facts.

Should we not be bigoted against a religion founded by a slave owning rapist and mass murderer that founded a religion that continues those actions today?
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 1:40:49 PM EDT
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This fucking bigot again.
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The truth hurts, doesn't it?
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:06:21 PM EDT
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The Crusades were a defensive operation.
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That is not what we've been told in school and through the media since i can remember.

Kind of strange, isn't it.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:12:46 PM EDT
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Let me help you out.
Religion is a plague on Earth ! Founded by people looking for control.
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Islam is a plague on the earth, founded upon lies by satan.

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Religion is a plague on Earth ! Founded by people looking for control.
M'lady.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:14:14 PM EDT
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what happened to the drive by liberals?

I thought they were going to tear apart "that bigots" argument rather than just drop a logical phallacy and go off and post on Reddit how they made a stand against islamaphobia.

very sad.  Low energy.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:19:57 PM EDT
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what happened to the drive by liberals?

I thought they were going to tear apart "that bigots" argument rather than just drop a logical phallacy and go off and post on Reddit how they made a stand against islamaphobia.

very sad.  Low energy.
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Just as well, I’ve grown tired of debating them. You gather sources, type out a long post addressing their fallacies, only to me met with a comment about a typo in your post or a version of “yeah but”.

It’s a waste of time.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:28:11 PM EDT
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That is not what we've been told in school and through the media since i can remember.

Kind of strange, isn't it.
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That is not what we've been told in school and through the media since i can remember.

Kind of strange, isn't it.
The legacy of Runciman.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:32:12 PM EDT
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what happened to the drive by liberals?

I thought they were going to tear apart "that bigots" argument rather than just drop a logical phallacy and go off and post on Reddit how they made a stand against islamaphobia.

very sad.  Low energy.
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That's usually all 2minkey does. Drive-by shitpost then disappear. I was actually shocked he came back to defend his position in the Armenian genocide thread.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:33:13 PM EDT
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That's usually all 2minkey does. Drive-by shitpost then disappear. I was actually shocked he came back to defend his position in the Armenian genocide thread.
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I missed that one.  Some people did something?

Or did he simply say the Armenians deserved it for the crusades?
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:34:00 PM EDT
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what happened to the drive by liberals?

I thought they were going to tear apart "that bigots" argument rather than just drop a logical phallacy and go off and post on Reddit how they made a stand against islamaphobia.

very sad.  Low energy.
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I have invited 2Minky to engage in a discussion, informed by actual scholarship and well-informed familiarity with the sources and the historiography, but, alas, I don't believe I'll get any such thing.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:35:39 PM EDT
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Fuck islam. muhammad was a pedophile.
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The left love them both.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:39:40 PM EDT
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Baloney

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Irony fail?

Or ironic?
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:53:27 PM EDT
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I missed that one.  Some people did something?

Or did he simply say the Armenians deserved it for the crusades?
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That's usually all 2minkey does. Drive-by shitpost then disappear. I was actually shocked he came back to defend his position in the Armenian genocide thread.
I missed that one.  Some people did something?

Or did he simply say the Armenians deserved it for the crusades?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Armenian-Genocide-Remembrance-Day-Revisiting-Islam-s-Greatest-Slaughter-of-Christians/5-2214283/
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:54:56 PM EDT
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I missed that one.  Some people did something?

Or did he simply say the Armenians deserved it for the crusades?
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That's usually all 2minkey does. Drive-by shitpost then disappear. I was actually shocked he came back to defend his position in the Armenian genocide thread.
I missed that one.  Some people did something?

Or did he simply say the Armenians deserved it for the crusades?
The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 2:57:12 PM EDT
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:08:18 PM EDT
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No, it was sacked by Goths who entered through the Salarian gate after it had been opened from the inside by a collaboration of servants and disgruntled citizens, according to Gibbon.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:09:33 PM EDT
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
The city core, no.  The outskirts of the city were raided, and two basilicas were sacked.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:10:35 PM EDT
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No, it was sacked by Goths who entered through the Salarian gate after it had been opened from the inside by a collaboration of servants and disgruntled citizens, according to Gibbon.
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
No, it was sacked by Goths who entered through the Salarian gate after it had been opened from the inside by a collaboration of servants and disgruntled citizens, according to Gibbon.
846, not 410.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Muslims have Sharia law

Atheists have socialism.

Christians have, well freedom.

Which religion seeks ultimate control?
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Don't forget, Islam is a theology.

It's not just going to Mosque on Fridays and that's it.  It's complete control on every level.

There's no such thing as "peaceful quiet Muslims that just want to live alone".  That's just a trope to dupe stupid westerners into letting them have full reign.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:15:51 PM EDT
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Episode 1127 - Muhammad in His Own Words
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:19:19 PM EDT
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The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
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muslim nationalists?

Or did they just want to be "pure"?

Why didn't they embrace diversity?  But muy golden age of islam...
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:19:51 PM EDT
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
No, it was sacked by Goths who entered through the Salarian gate after it had been opened from the inside by a collaboration of servants and disgruntled citizens, according to Gibbon.
It was sacked several times. Just never by a Muslim Army.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:25:37 PM EDT
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It was sacked several times. Just never by a Muslim Army.
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Rome was never sacked by a Muslim army.
No, it was sacked by Goths who entered through the Salarian gate after it had been opened from the inside by a collaboration of servants and disgruntled citizens, according to Gibbon.
It was sacked several times. Just never by a Muslim Army.
As I pointed out above, raided and two basilicas sacked in 846.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:28:18 PM EDT
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Started 400 years too late, and so lacking in focus; they often were detrimental to the people they were claiming to help.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:34:02 PM EDT
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Except when it came to massacring the Cathars.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:37:27 PM EDT
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I am supposedly a direct descendant of John of Brienne and King Fulk V.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:38:50 PM EDT
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Great videos. I was a kid when the 9/11 attacks happened but remember it vividly. Knew nothing about Islam until I started reading more in highschool. The Crusades were barely mentioned in class. I remember arguing with classmates that the ONLY way to honestly follow Islamic doctrine was to be a jihad. Classmates thought I was crazy but I stand by that view. Maybe I'm just an islamophobe? My opinion of Islam did change when Muslims in my scout troop were arrested for terrorist plots.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:41:45 PM EDT
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TAG
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 3:46:57 PM EDT
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Fuck islam. muhammad was a pedophile.
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Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:00:02 PM EDT
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846, not 410.
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Oh.  Ok.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:08:29 PM EDT
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I’m noticing a lot of pro-islam posts in GD lately.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:14:51 PM EDT
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It is probably just John Brennan’s shill accounts now that muh russia investigation is over and he is bored
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:19:35 PM EDT
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I have invited 2Minky to engage in a discussion, informed by actual scholarship and well-informed familiarity with the sources and the historiography, but, alas, I don't believe I'll get any such thing.
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What, specifically, would you like to discuss?

If it is going to be some ideological wank about how bad (insert name of cultural other) is, I don’t give a fuck.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:21:41 PM EDT
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The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
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Wow, you actually got some shit right. But of course calling the turks nationalist makes one a holocaust denier, according to boy genius in the other thread.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 4:37:12 PM EDT
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You think the Pope today is bad. 1600 years ago they were 1600 times worse.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 5:36:39 PM EDT
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Saw a documentary on one of the channels this week where they basically said that. It was a History program. Nothing like rewriting history.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 5:40:25 PM EDT
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Bill Warner's videos should be part of the curriculum at every university
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I have his entire collected works. They can be had on his site for around 200 bucks. Well worth the read.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 5:55:03 PM EDT
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The victims of the crusades were the Jews, not the Muslims.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:07:46 PM EDT
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Its called ad hominen, a logical fallacy.

Everything Warner says is true, so you have to call him a bigot.  They can't refute the facts.

Should we not be bigoted against a religion founded by a slave owning rapist and mass murderer that founded a religion that continues those actions today?
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Yall want to explain what you mean ?
Its called ad hominen, a logical fallacy.

Everything Warner says is true, so you have to call him a bigot.  They can't refute the facts.

Should we not be bigoted against a religion founded by a slave owning rapist and mass murderer that founded a religion that continues those actions today?
I have yet to see a “Dr. Bill” Warner video that wasn’t occasional kernels of truth wrapped in burrito coverings of cherry-picked events, outrageously wrong statements, weak contextual understanding, and overall shit-poor agenda-driven polemic “research.” I’d sooner rely on a Michael Moore documentary to understand something.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:11:45 PM EDT
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Wow, you actually got some shit right. But of course calling the turks nationalist makes one a holocaust denier, according to boy genius in the other thread.
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The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
Wow, you actually got some shit right. But of course calling the turks nationalist makes one a holocaust denier, according to boy genius in the other thread.
Lots of countries have a strong sense of nationalism yet don't go around committing genocide. But I know your kind likes to demonize that word as much as possible.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:12:32 PM EDT
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muslim nationalists?

Or did they just want to be "pure"?

Why didn't they embrace diversity?  But muy golden age of islam...
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The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
muslim nationalists?

Or did they just want to be "pure"?

Why didn't they embrace diversity?  But muy golden age of islam...
Turkish Nationalists.

They weren't content with just being Seljuks. Or Ottomans. apparently. The Pashas were going all Leftist constitution secular on their way to the etat socialist statism, as a governing device, because of elitist Turks going to the Western universities loving on the Marxism. Then. I guess.

They went all French Revolution with it. It was making everyone Turkish instead of French. A diversity from within. Not without. They embraced diversity as long as it wasn't anything not Turkish Islamic. Coming to diversity instead of being accepting of others.

Ottomanization. Turkification. And had it had no relation to the Seljuk domination and subjugation of Anatolia (and thereby the Armenians) in the 11th century a.d..

Or the continual dhimming of them up to the death march in 1915-16. Islamic Turkey had nothing to do with the genocide of Christian Armenians. They are saying...
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:16:20 PM EDT
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Started 400 years too late, and so lacking in focus; they often were detrimental to the people they were claiming to help.
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Started 400 years too late, and so lacking in focus; they often were detrimental to the people they were claiming to help.
Bows and arrows have a deleterious effect on heavy-armoured horse in-your-face fighters at a distance. Apparently, it was a continuous problem for Christians for many centuries.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:19:55 PM EDT
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Yep, in Islam, you have to add everything up.

(you must have meant 'submission')

My opinion is, after having looked into the history of Islam, its prophet, its texts, its structure and history, after reading about its expansion and brutal subjugation and forced conversion... well, it's not a good religion. It's not good for the West. It's not good for us here. It DOES and WILL compete with and attempt to dominate, destroy, overthrow and replace our civilization.  Note I said "civilization", because Islam is much more than some way to get on your knees and pray to some god. It's a civilization.

And we in the West are shockingly ignorant of it.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:24:27 PM EDT
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Wow, you actually got some shit right. But of course calling the turks nationalist makes one a holocaust denier, according to boy genius in the other thread.
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The Turks were 'nationalist' and did it for 'nationalist' reasons instead of doing it for Sharia reasons. Which makes them white Nationalists I guess. Had nothing to do with Islam. Because Young Turks. Which makes Cenk Uygur a white Nationalist.
Wow, you actually got some shit right. But of course calling the turks nationalist makes one a holocaust denier, according to boy genius in the other thread.
Sometimes my deciphering has adequate proximity to the meanings extolled by the messenger. Not that I agree with it or think it is anything more than a revisionism to give excuse...
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:26:31 PM EDT
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What, specifically, would you like to discuss?

If it is going to be some ideological wank about how bad (insert name of cultural other) is, I don't give a fuck.
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I have invited 2Minky to engage in a discussion, informed by actual scholarship and well-informed familiarity with the sources and the historiography, but, alas, I don't believe I'll get any such thing.
What, specifically, would you like to discuss?

If it is going to be some ideological wank about how bad (insert name of cultural other) is, I don't give a fuck.
I asked you (which you should have seen) what your general take on the crusades is. Just a basic question, as I'm interested in what understanding you bring to this, and what what portion of the historiography and/or popular press/media presentations have formed your opinions.
Link Posted: 4/27/2019 6:26:38 PM EDT
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I have yet to see a “Dr. Bill” Warner video that wasn’t occasional kernels of truth wrapped in burrito coverings of cherry-picked events, outrageously wrong statements, weak contextual understanding, and overall shit-poor agenda-driven polemic “research.” I’d sooner rely on a Michael Moore documentary to understand something.
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Here is the opportunity to knock it out of the park.

I'm all ears.
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Yep, in Islam, you have to add everything up.

(you must have meant 'submission')

My opinion is, after having looked into the history of Islam, its prophet, its texts, its structure and history, after reading about its expansion and brutal subjugation and forced conversion... well, it's not a good religion. It's not good for the West. It's not good for us here. It DOES and WILL compete with and attempt to dominate, destroy, overthrow and replace our civilization.  Note I said "civilization", because Islam is much more than some way to get on your knees and pray to some god. It's a civilization.

And we in the West are shockingly ignorant of it.
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Yep, in Islam, you have to add everything up.

(you must have meant 'submission')

My opinion is, after having looked into the history of Islam, its prophet, its texts, its structure and history, after reading about its expansion and brutal subjugation and forced conversion... well, it's not a good religion. It's not good for the West. It's not good for us here. It DOES and WILL compete with and attempt to dominate, destroy, overthrow and replace our civilization.  Note I said "civilization", because Islam is much more than some way to get on your knees and pray to some god. It's a civilization.

And we in the West are shockingly ignorant of it.
Spot on. It's a political construct.
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Lots of countries have a strong sense of nationalism yet don't go around committing genocide. But I know your kind likes to demonize that word as much as possible.
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Jeez, could you snivel any more?
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Spot on. It's a political construct.
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Islam means summation.
Yep, in Islam, you have to add everything up.

(you must have meant 'submission')

My opinion is, after having looked into the history of Islam, its prophet, its texts, its structure and history, after reading about its expansion and brutal subjugation and forced conversion... well, it's not a good religion. It's not good for the West. It's not good for us here. It DOES and WILL compete with and attempt to dominate, destroy, overthrow and replace our civilization.  Note I said "civilization", because Islam is much more than some way to get on your knees and pray to some god. It's a civilization.

And we in the West are shockingly ignorant of it.
Spot on. It's a political construct.
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