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Posted: 1/6/2023 1:45:28 AM EST
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Why did I click on this thread? It looks very cool. Would be even better in retro colors.
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Posted: 1/6/2023 8:19:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But the Transalp has twice the HP of the DR, and would probably be a more capable "only" bike. I don't do serious dirt riding any more; gravel roads and a few fire roads are as rough as it gets. Ahhh... I didn't read that as a replacement for the DR. I thought it was a get both thing. I agree the Transalp is likely a very good do all bike and more capable than most would ever need. My other problem is I am a bit bipolar when it comes to bikes. On one hand I like them stripped down and basic. On the Other I like cruise control very much when slabbing it. Ride modes I don't pay a lot of attention to other than disabling ABS. Heated grips are an absolute must for me now but are easily added. I will also admit I like my TPMS on the Beemer. But then I get on the DR and I am like, screw that stuff, I dont need any of it (except heated grips), and that is true. I dont need any of it. I guess I can appreciate both worlds. But I cant help but feel we are losing something about mototrcycles as they become more and more complex. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 8:55:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahhh... I didn't read that as a replacement for the DR. I thought it was a get both thing. I agree the Transalp is likely a very good do all bike and more capable than most would ever need. My other problem is I am a bit bipolar when it comes to bikes. On one hand I like them stripped down and basic. On the Other I like cruise control very much when slabbing it. Ride modes I don't pay a lot of attention to other than disabling ABS. Heated grips are an absolute must for me now but are easily added. I will also admit I like my TPMS on the Beemer. But then I get on the DR and I am like, screw that stuff, I dont need any of it (except heated grips), and that is true. I dont need any of it. I guess I can appreciate both worlds. But I cant help but feel we are losing something about mototrcycles as they become more and more complex. I leave the TPMS readings up on my LCD at all times. VERY useful. On a backroads trip through PA, WV, and VA last summer, I picked up a giant pop rivet in my back tire and was able to see the pressure dropping before it became dangerous. Plugged it THREE times and as the first 2 plugs fails I was able to notice dropping pressure and pull over to pump up and continue, but ended up getting a new tire before the 3rd plug leaked, figuring it would. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:05:21 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I leave the TPMS readings up on my LCD at all times. VERY useful. On a backroads trip through PA, WV, and VA last summer, I picked up a giant pop rivet in my back tire and was able to see the pressure dropping before it became dangerous. Plugged it THREE times and as the first 2 plugs fails I was able to notice dropping pressure and pull over to pump up and continue, but ended up getting a new tire before the 3rd plug leaked, figuring it would. Agreed, its a nice warning system. Unfortunately I need to replace mine as they are becoming sporadic. But I got over six years out of them. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:09:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, its a nice warning system. Unfortunately I need to replace mine as they are becoming sporadic. But I got over six years out of them. I understand you can cut the rubber covering off and replace the watch style batteries then put new silicon on, thus saving $. Haven't done it yet myself but there are youtube videos on the process (of course). |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:16:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand you can cut the rubber covering off and replace the watch style batteries then put new silicon on, thus saving $. Haven't done it yet myself but there are youtube videos on the process (of course). That was going to be my first option as well. The worse that can happen is I fail and need to replace them which is where I am now anyway. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 8:30:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was going to be my first option as well. The worse that can happen is I fail and need to replace them which is where I am now anyway. Exactly. I would imagine that one could put the wheels near the bike with the replaced TPMS batteries and see if the bike picks up the sensors without having to mount the tires. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 8:32:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. I would imagine that one could put the wheels near the bike with the replaced TPMS batteries and see if the bike picks up the sensors without having to mount the tires. That’s what I am thinking. Spin them real fast and get them to activate. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 8:43:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s what I am thinking. Spin them real fast and get them to activate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Exactly. I would imagine that one could put the wheels near the bike with the replaced TPMS batteries and see if the bike picks up the sensors without having to mount the tires. That’s what I am thinking. Spin them real fast and get them to activate. I'd be interested to hear how that goes. Might need an electric drill with a wheel on it to spin the bike wheel fast enough. My bike is a 2013 and so far, the TPMS sensors have been solid, but sooner or later they will need attention. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:03:01 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ahhh... I didn't read that as a replacement for the DR. I thought it was a get both thing. I agree the Transalp is likely a very good do all bike and more capable than most would ever need. My other problem is I am a bit bipolar when it comes to bikes. On one hand I like them stripped down and basic. On the Other I like cruise control very much when slabbing it. Ride modes I don't pay a lot of attention to other than disabling ABS. Heated grips are an absolute must for me now but are easily added. I will also admit I like my TPMS on the Beemer. But then I get on the DR and I am like, screw that stuff, I dont need any of it (except heated grips), and that is true. I dont need any of it. I guess I can appreciate both worlds. But I cant help but feel we are losing something about mototrcycles as they become more and more complex. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: But the Transalp has twice the HP of the DR, and would probably be a more capable "only" bike. I don't do serious dirt riding any more; gravel roads and a few fire roads are as rough as it gets. Ahhh... I didn't read that as a replacement for the DR. I thought it was a get both thing. I agree the Transalp is likely a very good do all bike and more capable than most would ever need. My other problem is I am a bit bipolar when it comes to bikes. On one hand I like them stripped down and basic. On the Other I like cruise control very much when slabbing it. Ride modes I don't pay a lot of attention to other than disabling ABS. Heated grips are an absolute must for me now but are easily added. I will also admit I like my TPMS on the Beemer. But then I get on the DR and I am like, screw that stuff, I dont need any of it (except heated grips), and that is true. I dont need any of it. I guess I can appreciate both worlds. But I cant help but feel we are losing something about mototrcycles as they become more and more complex. The only new tech that excites me on bikes is the TFT display, so I don't have to wear glasses in order to see the analog gages. I have no use for ride modes. I hardly ever use the on board computer on my R9T Pure. None of that stuff is intuitive for me, and every second spent dealing with that stuff is time I'm not looking at the road and concentrating my riding. I hate the thought of buying a new bike and paying for a bunch of "rider aids" that I don't want. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:03:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd be interested to hear how that goes. Might need an electric drill with a wheel on it to spin the bike wheel fast enough. My bike is a 2013 and so far, the TPMS sensors have been solid, but sooner or later they will need attention. Seriously? From 2013? Mine come on after a few minutes, or sometimes not at all. Other times they come right on. I know it’s the batteries. |
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Posted: 1/6/2023 9:04:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only new tech that excites me on bikes is the TFT display, so I don't have to wear glasses in order to see the analog gages. I have no use for ride modes. I hardly ever use the on board computer on my R9T Pure. None of that stuff is intuitive for me, and every second spent dealing with that stuff is time I'm not looking at the road and concentrating my riding. I hate the thought of buying a new bike and paying for a bunch of "rider aids" that I don't want. Sometimes I put it in enduro in the dirt to kill the ABS. But usually I forget I have five modes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 7:29:59 AM EST
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Quoted: Seriously? From 2013? Mine come on after a few minutes, or sometimes not at all. Other times they come right on. I know it’s the batteries. Yes, the bike was purchased in May of 2013 and did not come with TPMS from the factory, but I added the factory system right away (had the dealer do it; that year MOA membership generated a purchase credit that I put toward this). AFAIK, the only thing that ever goes wrong with them is the batteries giving up. Quoted: Sometimes I put it in enduro in the dirt to kill the ABS. But usually I forget I have five modes. Mine stays in "Road" mode because I find "Dyna" to be a little too abrupt. If I end up on a particularly bad dirt road, I'll thumb it over to Enduro Pro for the duration. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 10:13:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, the bike was purchased in May of 2013 and did not come with TPMS from the factory, but I added the factory system right away (had the dealer do it; that year MOA membership generated a purchase credit that I put toward this). AFAIK, the only thing that ever goes wrong with them is the batteries giving up. Mine stays in "Road" mode because I find "Dyna" to be a little too abrupt. If I end up on a particularly bad dirt road, I'll thumb it over to Enduro Pro for the duration. Yep, road mode for me as well. Never dynamic or whatever the spirited mode is called. Sometimes after a couple of hours in the rain I remember there is a rain mode and will switch it to that, but often forget. I think I just put the Enduro Pro dongle in this past summer. I just never bothered before. All that tech and it almost feels like they never actually talk to the people who ride the bikes. Though in fairness I think it is really just marketing to have so many modes. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 10:56:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, road mode for me as well. Never dynamic or whatever the spirited mode is called. Sometimes after a couple of hours in the rain I remember there is a rain mode and will switch it to that, but often forget. I think I just put the Enduro Pro dongle in this past summer. I just never bothered before. All that tech and it almost feels like they never actually talk to the people who ride the bikes. Though in fairness I think it is really just marketing to have so many modes. I leave the Enduro Pro dongle in all the time. I should review all of the mode documentation to see why I might want to choose Enduro vs Enduro Pro, but but I figure I won't forget where I put it if it is always in. In the rain, I just ride gently, which I suppose simulates what rain mode does. I never even think to switch to it. This coming season I may try switching to it, just to see how it feels. |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 12:28:52 PM EST
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Here is a real ADV bike from today. The one I would take were I to leave in June to ride the breadth of this country and back.
It has two ride modes…on and off.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/7/2023 3:37:48 PM EST
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Lol at the number plate. Tell me you are an AR15COM’er without telling me you are an AR15COM’er.
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Posted: 1/8/2023 9:39:23 AM EST
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Posted: 1/8/2023 9:42:23 AM EST
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Posted: 1/8/2023 9:46:09 AM EST
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Posted: 1/8/2023 10:47:19 AM EST
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wow, the low-slung exhaust on that Transalp screams NO to me.. a huge target for damage. imho
but I'm biased My '14 GSA in Costa Ricagot me to South America and still a pleasure to ride 
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Posted: 1/8/2023 10:52:19 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow, the low-slung exhaust on that Transalp screams NO to me.. a huge target for damage. imho but I'm biased My '14 GSA in Costa Ricagot me to South America and still a pleasure to ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2369/IMG_20190518_142933-a-950042.jpg Loads up nice 
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:39:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Loads up nice she was a champ, and I really had too much shit. I was loaded for camping all the way down, but changed that plan a little too late  a dry and comfortable place to sleep and bathe was welcome at the end of each day. |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:48:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: she was a champ, and I really had too much shit. I was loaded for camping all the way down, but changed that plan a little too late a dry and comfortable place to sleep and bathe was welcome at the end of each day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Loads up nice she was a champ, and I really had too much shit. I was loaded for camping all the way down, but changed that plan a little too late a dry and comfortable place to sleep and bathe was welcome at the end of each day.
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:51:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wow, the low-slung exhaust on that Transalp screams NO to me.. a huge target for damage. imho but I'm biased My '14 GSA in Costa Ricagot me to South America and still a pleasure to ride https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/2369/IMG_20190518_142933-a-950042.jpg Lol… My first big trip, though Mexico and Central America…  Attached Filevs TAT trim…top box is a laptop for work.  Attached FileIt’s amazing how much you can cut out after a trip or two. Though when I return South if the border again it will still be with hard bags. But I might need to step down to the smaller Tusk Bags. |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:57:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol at the number plate. Tell me you are an AR15COM’er without telling me you are an AR15COM’er.  Attached File
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:57:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking at that. Nice to see some more middleweight ADV bikes. "middleweight" The fucking thing is 500 pounds. I dual sport a KTM 300. It's 226. |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 12:59:25 PM EST
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Posted: 1/8/2023 1:01:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "middleweight" The fucking thing is 500 pounds. I dual sport a KTM 300. It's 226. And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike. |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 1:01:53 PM EST
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Posted: 1/8/2023 1:16:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "middleweight" The fucking thing is 500 pounds. I dual sport a KTM 300. It's 226. And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike. The M249 is a light machine gun Average GDer "Light? That thing weighs 15lbs! My AR barely tips the scales at 6..." 
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Posted: 1/8/2023 4:52:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "middleweight" The fucking thing is 500 pounds. I dual sport a KTM 300. It's 226. And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike. Clearly the R1 is the correct choice. :) |
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Posted: 1/8/2023 7:35:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Bhart89 It is awesome getting out and hammock camping https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/341204/ResizerImage2661X3548_jpg-2665118.JPG I don’t know how you can deal with that stock saddle though. It broke my ass. |
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Posted: 1/9/2023 5:48:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t know how you can deal with that stock saddle though. It broke my ass. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @Bhart89 It is awesome getting out and hammock camping https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/341204/ResizerImage2661X3548_jpg-2665118.JPG I don’t know how you can deal with that stock saddle though. It broke my ass. It doesn't bother me for the distances I run it, the 1050 kills me though, I need to do something. |
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Posted: 1/9/2023 7:54:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't bother me for the distances I run it, the 1050 kills me though, I need to do something. I have a Sargent on my DR which is an all day, every day saddle. On the GSA it’s a Russel Day Long. Which is awesome and also an all day, every day saddle but looks like clown shoes. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 12:42:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: "middleweight" The fucking thing is 500 pounds. I dual sport a KTM 300. It's 226. And the key part of the statement is ADV. Dual sport = riding to the trail. ADV= riding days/weeks/years at a time across the world in real world conditions while living off your bike |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 1:00:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since selling my vstar1300 (first bike I ever really rode on - learned on small displacement bikes as a youth, but never rode on pavement with anything other than a small honda scooter until my late 30's when I bought the 1300 from a buddy), I've bounced around between wanting to replace it with a dual sport or an adv bike. Was pumped about the transalp announcement until I saw the price and the design details. For my use, I'm probably better off with a cb500x or even a versys 300. I don't want to do anything on the freeway. Really enjoy taking the backroads and running around places up at our cabin that I can't take an ATV/UTV. My advice is to shop around for a used dual sport in as reasonable a good condition at as good a price you can find. The best deals are obviously right now, but that will change soon. The beauty of these bikes is that unless you are just stupid up front you can almost always sell them at little or no loss. This willl give you a chance to get used to riding again and understanding just how great "smaller" bikes are. It will let you feel which way you need to go with the next bike with little financial risk. However, I will say, both bikes you mentioned would likely be a great choice. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 1:22:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My advice is to shop around for a used dual sport in as reasonable a good condition at as good a price you can find. The best deals are obviously right now, but that will change soon. The beauty of these bikes is that unless you are just stupid up front you can almost always sell them at little or no loss. This willl give you a chance to get used to riing again and understanding just how great "smaller" bikes are. It will let you feel which way you need to go with the next bike with little financial risk. However I will say, both bikes you mentioned would likely be a great choice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Since selling my vstar1300 (first bike I ever really rode on - learned on small displacement bikes as a youth, but never rode on pavement with anything other than a small honda scooter until my late 30's when I bought the 1300 from a buddy), I've bounced around between wanting to replace it with a dual sport or an adv bike. Was pumped about the transalp announcement until I saw the price and the design details. For my use, I'm probably better off with a cb500x or even a versys 300. I don't want to do anything on the freeway. Really enjoy taking the backroads and running around places up at our cabin that I can't take an ATV/UTV. My advice is to shop around for a used dual sport in as reasonable a good condition at as good a price you can find. The best deals are obviously right now, but that will change soon. The beauty of these bikes is that unless you are just stupid up front you can almost always sell them at little or no loss. This willl give you a chance to get used to riing again and understanding just how great "smaller" bikes are. It will let you feel which way you need to go with the next bike with little financial risk. However I will say, both bikes you mentioned would likely be a great choice. I thought you were out deer hunting
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Posted: 1/11/2023 1:26:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought you were out deer hunting Just got back from talking to the local auto body guy. Life goes on and ain't no one got time for dat. At least the oil for the Beemer arrived today so I can ride that again. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 1:35:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My advice is to shop around for a used dual sport in as reasonable a good condition at as good a price you can find. The best deals are obviously right now, but that will change soon. The beauty of these bikes is that unless you are just stupid up front you can almost always sell them at little or no loss. This willl give you a chance to get used to riding again and understanding just how great "smaller" bikes are. It will let you feel which way you need to go with the next bike with little financial risk. However, I will say, both bikes you mentioned would likely be a great choice. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 1:44:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was my inclination, but used bikes up here are stupid high price wise. Pretty much 4k for 20 year old thrashed smaller dual sports. KLR650 can be had a bit cheaper, but I'm leaning toward just getting something new and riding the heck out of it for several years. Nothing wrong with that either and the resell is still good. But inventory is still pretty thin I am hearing. I would consider the Honda 300 rally as well if highways are never or at least rarely a thing. But keep in mind that any of the 300s like the Honda or the Versys are definitely in a different class when it comes to power. The Versys will pull 100 but I guarantee it isn’t getting there fast. That is also empty and on the flat. But having said that, I don’t know if my DR650 can hit 100. But it definitely has more grunt for hauling stuff around. Fully loaded it will run 80 with no issues and still have some left. But a bike like the Transalp will eat that stuff up without flinching. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 2:06:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing wrong with that either and the resell is still good. But inventory is still pretty thin I am hearing. I would consider the Honda 300 rally as well if highways are never or at least rarely a thing. But keep in mind that any of the 300s like the Honda or the Versys are definitely in a different class when it comes to power. The Versys will pull 100 but I guarantee it isn't getting there fast. That is also empty and on the flat. But having said that, I don't know if my DR650 can hit 100. But it definitely has more grunt for hauling stuff around. Fully loaded it will run 80 with no issues and still have some left. But a bike like the Transalp will eat that stuff up without flinching. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 2:38:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the insight! I've been looking at the Rally 300 as well! My wife got a 2018 honda rebel 300 when we took our rider class and got endorsements. I've ridden that a bit since selling my 1300. I'm totally fine with it's limitations so I don't think I'd hate another 300 ish bike. Really Like the looks of the RE Himalayan, but not sure if I'd be happy with the build quality over the years like I would some of the other mentioned bikes. The Enfield is a really neat bike and I think it looks great. I also think it is capable. But it really is underpowered no matter what their fans may say. 25 HP and something like 430 pounds. But it also has pretty good torque at like 24 and that is at the crank. It will get you where you want to go. So why am I complaining? Well, my DR with a very little modification is probably right at 40hp and 35ft pounds….at 340 pounds or so. Almost 100 pounds lighter. But…having said that the Himalayan is a very likable bike and has real character. I would strongly recommend you ride one. But ride other bikes as well so you can really appreciate what is does well and what it doesn’t do well. Both are choosing good torque and low RPMs which I love. My BMW is pretty much the same way. Some bikes like the BMW 310 have to be wrung out at high rpm’s by design. I just don’t like that and particularly not on dirt where I am a poor rider. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 2:46:17 PM EST
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Posted: 1/11/2023 3:38:13 PM EST
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Quote History We bought the cheapest Rune on the internet |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 3:43:42 PM EST
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So they are basiclly bringing back the XL600V ?
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Posted: 1/11/2023 4:02:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they are basiclly bringing back the XL600V ? Correct, which is why they are calling it the Transalp. Albeit more displacement. The more I think about it the more I think it is a step in the right direction. A much more realistic ADV bike for the what people that actually ride them do with these bikes. It's impressive seeing the pros jump massive jumps with the latest bikes and do trials like stunts. But honestly when I am riding on some busted forest road or across an old rail road bed, I have never once thought about taking my fully loaded bike on my way to Georgia or wherever and going to look for some really sweet jumps. I still hate the exhaust though. |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 4:07:20 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they are basiclly bringing back the XL600V ? Now a juiced up parallel twin https://www.cycleworld.com/story/bikes/honda-xl750-transalp-first-look-2023/ |
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Posted: 1/11/2023 4:21:25 PM EST
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Any guesses when we will start to see this thing available?
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Posted: 1/11/2023 4:26:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any guesses when we will start to see this thing available? If this comes to the NA market, which is likely but yet to be confirmed, you likely wouldn't see it until 2024 at the earliest. |
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