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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:53:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s stopping half the forum from going to the border since it’s the most pressing issue facing America? Or China? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3594_png-3217181.JPG Actual budget https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3596_jpeg-3217180.JPGBudget according to the anti Ukraine crowd The Federal Government engaged in life ruination against us for defending our country from their treason. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 4:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You couldn't be more hopelessly wrong on your bogus assessment of urkraine. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian people their leaders foolishly trusted the USA and UK. All they had to do is look to the tract record of those countries. The USA is a shitty ally, south Vietnam a lost cause that we dumped billions of dollars into and 50 thousands lives lost? To what end? Afghanistan same thing, Iraq same thing? Never a clear purpose? Or was it just to enrich the Washington d.c. elite and the military industrial complex? How many times do they have to lie to you before you get it. Urkraine had a choice after the fall of the Soviet Union, trust the west, or give up it's nukes? They chose the west a big mistake. Then in February 2022 they had another choice, a negotiated settlement with the Russians and neutrality or trust the west. Again those choose the west. The west isn't what it was post war world ii. The west is overextended and nearing bankruptcy. Plus they gave there manufacturing away for climate change! They could have told the west to bud out and avoid this and negotiated their own way forward. Their leaders where more concerned with getting rich of western aid paid for on the west's credit card. Those Ukrainian's leaders chose money over the well being of their country again and again. In the end the west's goal is to destroy the Russian government so western corporations can exploit its resources. Putin is more interested in doing that himself without the help of the west. Couple that with NATO's systematically surrounding of Russia with NATO member countries and it's obvious what the west's goals are. You can kid yourself with phony patriotism that Russia is somehow a threat to the USA. But last I checked Russia isn't trying to recruit the USA's neighbors into a military alliance against the USA? This whole thing is a problem the west could have avoided by not rolling NATO countries right up to Russia's border. Look at some of the promises the west gave Russia after the cold war. It plays out very similar to what the USA did to native Americans in the west. That's the truth. You left out import tens of millions of hostile aliens to appease self hating idiots. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 5:00:58 PM EDT
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Europe should have gotten serious about defense a number of years back. Georgia was invaded by Russia. Then Ukraine. Europe largely sat still. There were minor increases in defense spending. Then Russia invaded more of Ukraine, and only now is Europe getting more serious. They should have been donating a lot more modern heavy equipment early on in the war.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 5:15:34 PM EDT
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Maybe real world affairs require a little higher pay grade than actor/comedian/bullshit artist.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:36:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went and didn’t get arrested. What gives? I even got paid. It’s pretty good money, too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3813_jpeg-3217266.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3726_jpeg-3217265.JPG There are constraints on doing that in Ukraine. They don’t allow people to simply fly in and go to the front. There is an entire vetting process. Let’s get this straight: you complain you can’t go to the border as joe private citizen and use force but want me to go join the AFU (the military)? You are free to join the Texas national guard or state guard and go to the border   “I did it when the state allowed me to do so, within very tightly controlled rules that ensured we could not do anything to achieve the desired outcome, therefore everything is fine”-Ukribro Prime |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:37:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, if you believe in objective truth. If a man sees a woman being raped, or a child being bullied, he should put a stop to it. Putin is the aggressor here against a smaller, weaker nation. It is objectively wrong. So, again, why haven’t you enlisted? Anyone else seeing this recurring trend of pro war people never go over and fight in the wars they support? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:41:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Willfully ignorant. Nope, worse, openly dishonest. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:42:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If only OUR taxes were higher  Ukrainians have my sympathy, so does Israel (seriously) but I no longer give a shit what is happening ANYWHERE else in the World while OUR Nation is bing invaded and OUR government is complicit in the takeover. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  The comedian who is making a clown out of Putin? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3594_png-3217444.JPG We need more social spending! The multiple trillion ain’t enough. Triple ss, Medicare, and all of that. The anti Ukraine aid crowd has stated in the past that socialist spending is okay because “it’s going to Americans”.  And keep Putin from achieving his war goals after 2 years and 816 days of war.  The school bond is 180ish million in a city of 6k people. But hey, feel free to bring things from other threads into here. Why not, it’s a tactic you people pull every time you start to lose. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe real world affairs require a little higher pay grade than actor/comedian/bullshit artist. Give me a break. We once elected Trump as President and the left continues to harp on him for being "inexperienced" and "unfit" for office. Zelenskyy isnt the cause of all this russian aggression but GD seems to think he is the problem. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:45:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When the USSR collapsed, Ukraine inherited a shitload of nukes, long range ballistic missiles, and strategic bombers. We forced them to give up those weapon systems because we only wanted to deal with one nuclear armed post-Soviet state. So yes, we are partly responsible for Ukraine's inability to deter a Russian invasion. Nope, I didn’t sign any agreement or give my word. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:48:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You know that real loud, wet, “gawk gawk gawk” sound a pornstar makes when she (or he, I want to make sure I don’t offend your tastes) is giving a real deep blowjob? That’s what this post sounds like. @Reekus, lol |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:48:56 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Europe should have gotten serious about defense a number of years back. Georgia was invaded by Russia. Then Ukraine. Europe largely sat still. There were minor increases in defense spending. Then Russia invaded more of Ukraine, and only now is Europe getting more serious. They should have been donating a lot more modern heavy equipment early on in the war. But Africans and Arabs need welfare! |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 6:53:15 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think I've ever heard of a more dependent country in history. Can you believe some country's actually had to make their own weapons and fight their own battles? really not a ukebro but im glad 1770s France spared some muskets |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:00:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Federal Government engaged in life ruination against us for defending our country from their treason. Quote HistoryQuoted: The Federal Government engaged in life ruination against us for defending our country from their treason. I haven't gotten a single charge over arresting folks. It's been 2 years. Got any idea when? Statute of limitations is coming up. Quoted: Nope, I didn’t sign any agreement or give my word. You did through your leadership at the time. Quoted: Give me a break. We once elected Trump as President and the left continues to harp on him for being "inexperienced" and "unfit" for office. Zelenskyy isnt the cause of all this russian aggression but GD seems to think he is the problem. In GD we blame the woman and the victim, not the aggressor. Quoted: Why not, it’s a tactic you people pull every time you start to lose. You mean make nuclear threats? "If Ukraine gets long range missiles..." Such as in 2023? It's been nearly a year since Storm shadow and SCALP-ERs arrived in Ukraine. Ain't squat been done about it since then. Russia lost a couple more warships, a lot more planes, some Awacs, and others. And most recently ATACMs have arrived and Belbek airfield in occupied Crimea was rocked causing the loss of several S400 launchers, radars, 500k liters of fuel, and some mig 31s and SU27s. Nothing has happened... Quoted: So, again, why haven’t you enlisted? Anyone else seeing this recurring trend of pro war people never go over and fight in the wars they support? Such as yourself having not been in the Russian army..? If you're going to demand others enlist in the Ukrainian army you're going to have to enlist in the Russian army by your own logic. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:03:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Did he admit they're gettin' their ass kicked?
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:13:20 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he admit they're gettin' their ass kicked? It's going to be hard to deny it when Kharkiv is getting pounded. They need to negotiate a peace. And stop killing Ukranians. Both sides. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:13:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Rest assured Joe Biden and the Zelenskyy have the American people’s best interests in their hearts while they smoke pole and sniff little girls.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:29:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you guys real comfortable in your armchair? Just checking; Are you finishing your beer? Or are you just pouring yourself some fresh coffee instead? lol Those Ukraines have been going thru a couple of years of hell. They will ultimately lose their nation because Putin sends out thousands of Russians to fight his war for him while all Ukraine can do is swat those roaches that keep running in. It's been a war of attrition that Ukraine can't win because Putin has nukes! Zelinsky has no choice but to accept Biden's bribery if he wants to live another day. When Biden and corrupt officials like the cartels say "take the money or else!" Zelinsky will take it! This keeps the war supplies coming too regardless what Zelinksky thinks or if he dislikes being compromised. Zelinsky is a marked man just like that Wagner commander that Putin killed was a marked man. When Ukraine has fallen, Zelinsky will have nowhere to hide. He will be hunted down and murdered. Consider yourselves fortunate your ass is here in the most powerful nation in the world. Why don't you stop mocking others who are less fortunate, lost everything, and are being raped! No, I'm not Ukraine blood or remotely related to that part of the world. I'm just not an insensitive asshole who laughs at the misery of others. Now ya'll carry on and finish your beer.... or coffee.  Literally none of that is of any concern to me. The US recklessly spending money it doesn’t have on other peoples wars driving up inflation and flirting with the idea of entering the war ourselves does concern me. When Ukraine falls that little dwarf will flee the country to somewhere nice with a pallet of US dollars to fund his exile in style. I’d prefer to see the Russians get him instead. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:37:50 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he admit they're gettin' their ass kicked? He doesn’t need to. The whole world knows it. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:45:06 PM EDT
[#21]
Fuck that stupid motherfucker. I want a refund. Fucking Grifter. Just like the career scum politicians here.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:46:59 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Europe should have gotten serious about defense a number of years back. Georgia was invaded by Russia. Then Ukraine. Europe largely sat still. There were minor increases in defense spending. Then Russia invaded more of Ukraine, and only now is Europe getting more serious. They should have been donating a lot more modern heavy equipment early on in the war. “Germany will become totally dependent on Russian energy if it does not immediately change course.”  Germany Reacts to Trump's UNGA Speech Trump: German pipeline deal with Russia is horrible  Trump: German pipeline deal with Russia is horrible |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:52:28 PM EDT
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Interesting that they are willing to point fingers at the west over Kharkiv, but none at their own people who took the money and ran instead of building their defensive lines.
Not only does it highlight the double standard regarding information, but it's hard to continuously argue a unified struggle for the survival of the country when stuff like this keeps happening. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 7:55:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @fadedsun Well we might have a fucking border wall. That's why Trump made one when he was president. We even had the Guard there too doing train searches and even less than what they are doing now. Not a peep.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:04:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The key lesson out of all this is never give up your nukes One take away from this is that nuclear weapons are going to become more common. And more likely to be used. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:14:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he admit they're gettin' their ass kicked? Ukraine is winning |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He doesn’t need to. The whole world knows it. Quote HistoryQuoted: He doesn’t need to. The whole world knows it. You might want to check in occupied Crimea right now. With the destruction of 2 S400 batteries, fuel depots, and Mig31 and Su27 interceptors at belbek there's several dozen Ukrainian OWAs heading to the region with explosions reported across the entire peninsula  a few minutes ago Russian sources reported this: Russian channels report that approximately 100-120 UAVs are currently on route to Russian-occupied Crimea, as well as the Russian regions Rostov and Krasnodar. Several explosions has already been heard in Crimea.   
Quoted: It's going to be hard to deny it when Kharkiv is getting pounded. They need to negotiate a peace. And stop killing Ukranians. Both sides. Over the last month dozens of Refineries in Russia have been getting pounded. Gazprom is posting a multi billion loss for the first time in decades. A gas station that is losing money and can't sell gas stays open for how long? The killing stops when Russia goes home. It can end at any time. Why doesn't Putin simply stop the war? See above |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:30:36 PM EDT
[#28]
Ah yes, a quick IO focused internet victory with little to no follow up on actual effects.
I was curious how long it would take for this to happen after the mobilization into Kharkiv. This whole war has been consistent with operations back and forth solely for attrition of news cycles geared against the easily influenced. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 8:47:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So, again, why haven’t you enlisted? Anyone else seeing this recurring trend of pro war people never go over and fight in the wars they support? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, if you believe in objective truth. If a man sees a woman being raped, or a child being bullied, he should put a stop to it. Putin is the aggressor here against a smaller, weaker nation. It is objectively wrong. So, again, why haven’t you enlisted? Anyone else seeing this recurring trend of pro war people never go over and fight in the wars they support? My money is more effective than my boots on the ground. There are more ways than one to contribute. The most noble of ideas mean nothing if they go unfunded and unrealized. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:36:36 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Your last paragraph is total bullshit. We helped instigate this war. It's a project we've been working on for years. Whatever, great powers play great power games. This is not new. It's fucked up, but not new. You need to wrap your head around the notion that we are using the Ukrainian people. It's is a cynical war designed to attrit Russia not save Ukraine. If Ukraine is destroyed and Russia is significantly weakened, the neocon/neolib factions of our government will call it a win. Everybody knows this. Only the very naive are still convinced that we are fighting the good fight. We aren't trying to win at all. We are trying to prolong the war. I'm all for killing Russians and keeping Ukraine free. I really wish we'd get serious about that. A loss in Ukraine may meet the goals of the neocons who aren't even the conservatives anymore. But it will gravely damage Ukraine and the US. The cheerleading for the war in our media is pure propaganda. Russian bot much? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:37:48 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When will you join the fight indeed. Go right ahead and buy a plane ticket to go. What is stopping you? I'm almost 70 and have cancer, how about you? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:41:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You couldn't be more hopelessly wrong on your bogus assessment of urkraine. Unfortunately for the Ukrainian people their leaders foolishly trusted the USA and UK. All they had to do is look to the tract record of those countries. The USA is a shitty ally, south Vietnam a lost cause that we dumped billions of dollars into and 50 thousands lives lost? To what end? Afghanistan same thing, Iraq same thing? Never a clear purpose? Or was it just to enrich the Washington d.c. elite and the military industrial complex? How many times do they have to lie to you before you get it. Urkraine had a choice after the fall of the Soviet Union, trust the west, or give up it's nukes? They chose the west a big mistake. Then in February 2022 they had another choice, a negotiated settlement with the Russians and neutrality or trust the west. Again those choose the west. The west isn't what it was post war world ii. The west is overextended and nearing bankruptcy. Plus they gave there manufacturing away for climate change! They could have told the west to bud out and avoid this and negotiated their own way forward. Their leaders where more concerned with getting rich of western aid paid for on the west's credit card. Those Ukrainian's leaders chose money over the well being of their country again and again. In the end the west's goal is to destroy the Russian government so western corporations can exploit its resources. Putin is more interested in doing that himself without the help of the west. Couple that with NATO's systematically surrounding of Russia with NATO member countries and it's obvious what the west's goals are. You can kid yourself with phony patriotism that Russia is somehow a threat to the USA. But last I checked Russia isn't trying to recruit the USA's neighbors into a military alliance against the USA? This whole thing is a problem the west could have avoided by not rolling NATO countries right up to Russia's border. Look at some of the promises the west gave Russia after the cold war. It plays out very similar to what the USA did to native Americans in the west. That's the truth. The truth you say? The truth is the USA and Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity if they would surrender their nuclear weapons after the Soviet Union collapsed. Russia lied. The question now, is are we going to lie. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:49:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The truth you say? The truth is the USA and Russia guaranteed Ukraine's territorial integrity if they would surrender their nuclear weapons after the Soviet Union collapsed. Russia lied. The question now, is are we going to lie. Ask an Indian. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:50:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Repeating the BS still. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Maybe they should not have run a CIA backed coup on the sitting president, then shell the Ukrainians who were upset about that. Lol. Repeating the BS still. Russian apologists on the dole...... The reason, the only reason, Russia invaded Ukraine, is because the Russian puppets that ruled Ukraine up until 2008 got thrown out of office. Decades of insidious work to undermine a neighboring democracy came crashing to the ground. The corruption, outright theft of Ukrainian resources, the open attacks on political dissent, culminating in the murder of many Ukrainian citizens that dared to challenge the status quo. Zelinsky has aggressively prosecuted corrupt members of his government and Russian spies. He could have just as easily swept it under the rug to pretend it didn't exist, or worse, participated in the graft himself. Anyone claiming he is corrupt, show me one piece of evidence. Just one! The Kremlin wouldn't be trying to kill him personally if he was playing ball with their oligarchs. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:52:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Zelenskyy continues to act like a woman. Blaming everyone else for his own problems lol
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:57:16 PM EDT
[#36]
Thirteener
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:59:03 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh geez. I can’t believe he missed his vacation in Spain. I feel so bad for him. Perhaps we could send our soldiers to the front line to help out since our money clearly hasn’t helped. Since Ukraine won’t draft 18 year old’s we should draft our 18 year old’s and get them on a place as quick as possible to kill Russians. This Ukraine needs to draft every available male. Why they haven't done so is a mystery. Just because it would be politically unpopular is irrelevant when you are at war. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 9:59:33 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What’s stopping half the forum from going to the border since it’s the most pressing issue facing America? Or China? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3594_png-3217181.JPG Actual budget https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/51435/IMG_3596_jpeg-3217180.JPGBudget according to the anti Ukraine crowd Still pushing that GDP nonsense I see. Ukraine National Government Debt reached 135,000,000,000 USD U.S. national debt 35,000,000,000,000. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:03:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: China could divest itself of the kinds of assets Russia needs and not significantly effect it's control over the SCS and adjacent lanes of approach. China doesn't really face much of a threat of armored land war anytime soon. They won't be sending carriers or Type 055s to go busting through the turkish straights...ever or sending DF-21/26. Those are the long sticks that defend china. Right? They are currently funding over a half-dozen rebel groups in Myanmar fighting their military junta government. If the rebels prevail, China will probably want a naval base on the Indian Ocean as recompense. They will have a land and sea link directly to that ocean. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:04:39 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Zelinsky has aggressively prosecuted corrupt members of his government and Russian spies. He could have just as easily swept it under the rug to pretend it didn't exist, or worse, participated in the graft himself. You mean like it's getting swept under the rug right now that the defenses that were supposed to be built forward of Kharkiv weren't and contractors stole all the money? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:06:38 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You left out the part about about democracy and how your guy (Zelensky) is 'protecting' all of that... :) Banning / imprisoning any and all opposition parties / suspending any sort of elections... That sort of 'democracy' protecting stuff...  Zelensky is a thug dictator installed by the west and certainly NOT 'kissing' any babies to keep his control on power there. I was supportive of Zelensky at the very beginning because he ran for election on a platform specifically calling for a peace deal with Russia. (funny how that shit changed isn't it) He would have NEVER got elected in the first place if the citizens knew up front where he was ultimately going to take them (he lied about the all of the Russia rapprochement stuff) and NOW that any and all public support has waned (in a big freakin way) he has pretty much made sure that their voices would be silenced. The average Ukrainian (not that you really care) has FAR LESS actual 'freedom' now than they had before Zelensky came along. (did not used to be restrictions on leaving the country, etc.) Military age males are rarely allowed to leave any country in a time of war. God, I wish people were smarter. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:08:47 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Protecting the US borders is actually one of the few original responsibilities of the US.gov. I don't think anyone would or should argue that fact. The two issues are not linked at the hip. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:13:56 PM EDT
[#43]
It would be interesting to know what exile plans Zelenskyy has and how much will be waiting in his bank account there.
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:17:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:20:53 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Military age males are rarely allowed to leave any country in a time of war. God, I wish people were smarter. A huge percentage of MAMs fled Ukraine almost immediately at the start and has been a steady hemorrhage since. Ukraine has been known for decades as a hub for aviation manufacturing and contracted flight facilitation, most of the pilots left just before Russia invaded. They also refuse to come back. Their own companies and officials have been embezzling cash nonstop, even for projects directly related to the war effort. Let's stop pretending Ukraine is a country facing an existential threat which has unified efforts and nationalistic goals. For the most part they aren't. The world is being sold a tale of disaster and destruction of the country as a whole yet they haven't found the will or desire to face that threat in a manner commensurate with the implications. Armies of old men barely held off the Russian onslaught with magazines full of western equipment, now the Russian army is significantly larger and those specific force-multiplying weapons are mostly gone. We haven't seen a major initiative from Ukraine to address any of this via recruiting much less the draft. There is a lot more going on here than what is being presented for narrative consumption via social media. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Worlds fault? No. Europe's fault? Most definitely. We were all naive. The collective west thought Russia would behave like any other civilized nation if we traded with them. What the west failed to realize, is that Russia is never satisfied. It's not enough to make handsome profits, if you can't also wield bone crushing influence over your trading partners, holding them hostage to your whims at any given moment. There is nothing so passive/aggressive as shutting off heating fuel in the winter. After the Soviet Union's collapse, all of Europe breathed a sigh of relief and happily allowed the USA to foot the bill for defense. We are the ones that let that happen. Why wouldn't they use their tax money for politically expedient purposes when we were willing to provide their defense? Defense at that time against an invisible enemy? We didn't put our foot down, didn't use soft power to demand financial participation, basically knuckling under to their short-sighted world view. Donald Trump's crass condemnation of NATO was brutally honest, something that nobody cares to hear. It's not like we don't share intelligence with our allies. NATO knew what we knew. We have "experts" right now that claim China won't attack Tawain, despite the fact that they have been sounding the alarm bells for years. China is watching and waiting for NATO supplies and unity to get stressed in this conflict, then they will strike Tawain with a vengeance. Seeing us weakened, over extended and a rising public disdain for the Ukraine conflict, they will strike when they see fit. Politicians are world class liars, except when it comes to war. If any nation is beating that drum, it's best to pay attention. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:31:11 PM EDT
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I'm curious about peoples thoughts on the end state of the war.
The main problem I see is Russia's economy is on a war footing and its unlikely they will be able to resume normality by energy exports to the EU for the foreseeable future, does Russia even stop at Ukraine? Its not in Russia's interest to stop either because rounding up an occupied population to shove on the new front line not only nets new lands, people, and assets, but also consolidates power in the occupied lands by removing potential resistance fighters. I see Georgia, and Moldova being easy to grab fruit. The Baltics likely become the red line. Problem is does anyone really think we are willing to risk one or more US cities for the Baltics? Especially if the right is saying no to the war. The problem I see is our asshole politicians let the war start. They got us stuck in this mess with no real way out but defeating Russia. Thoughts on how we end this most favorably to us? |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:31:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Zelensky: Once a comedian, always a comedian. Yep. Zelensky has bigger balls than anyone posting on this forum, myself included. He started off as an actor wanting to attack corruption in the country he loves. The corrupt did not appreciate that. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:34:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We pushed them into each other's arms. They were always in each other's arms. The only time they had a rocky patch is when Khruschev bad mouthed Joseph Stalin after his death. Comrades, first last and always. |
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Posted: 5/18/2024 10:35:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh geez. I can’t believe he missed his vacation in Spain. I feel so bad for him. Perhaps we could send our soldiers to the front line to help out since our money clearly hasn’t helped. Since Ukraine won’t draft 18 year old’s we should draft our 18 year old’s and get them on a place as quick as possible to kill Russians. Yeah my sympathy, what little I had is about gone |
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