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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:11:44 AM EDT
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Charcuterie and patisserie shops.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:11:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The service is already shitty. I'd rather not pay extra for someone to do their job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why, because you want shitty service here in the States. It isn't paying someone extra to do their job, it is customary and understood that this part of the cost of dining out. You will pay for the cost of the labor one way or another. Eliminate tipping and have their employers pay them more will necessitate an increase in the cost of your food, and you will have no say in it. The servers will also have less motivation to please the diners, because they know how much is coming to them regardless of your dining experience. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:13:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Charcuterie and patisserie shops. 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:13:56 AM EDT
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Quoted: Whatta got? I realize "Europeans" is a pretty broad term. My call is "Holiday". IMO many of them know how to balance life and work. The ones I work with routinely disappear for one or two weeks at various times throughout the year. Their attitude seems to be that either their business colleagues can step in in their absence, or it can jolly well wait until they return. I rarely work with a European professional that has the "squirrel on crack" mindset that so many US professionals do. Not advocating being lazy, but damn, IMO we could learn a thing or two from them about this. Completely agree. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:15:40 AM EDT
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If you get shitty service leave a 0% tip. Tell the waiter or waitress that they sucked ass and tell the manager.
If I do happen to go to a crappy restaurant like Olive Garden I will talk to the hostess and let them know that I’d like to be seated with the best waiter or waitress. Very simple. Also remember that the EU charges a 20% VAT tax on most food items served in restaurants cafés, airports or takeout. Quote HistoryQuoted: Why, because you want shitty service here in the States. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I wish their culture of non-tipping would become more common here. Why, because you want shitty service here in the States. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:16:25 AM EDT
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Quoted: Whatta got? I realize "Europeans" is a pretty broad term. My call is "Holiday". IMO many of them know how to balance life and work. The ones I work with routinely disappear for one or two weeks at various times throughout the year. Their attitude seems to be that either their business colleagues can step in in their absence, or it can jolly well wait until they return. I rarely work with a European professional that has the "squirrel on crack" mindset that so many US professionals do. Not advocating being lazy, but damn, IMO we could learn a thing or two from them about this. Open your own business and you can give your employees all the 'Holiday' you want, it isn't the governments job to mandate shit like this. And if you fell 'like a victim', like the liberals want to sell to you, and you don't have enough 'Holiday' get a different fucking job with more 'Holiday' - its called FREEDOM on both sides of the equation, for Gods sake have some confidence in yourself and quit relying on others to 'fix it for you' |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:21:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The service is already shitty. I'd rather not pay extra for someone to do their job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why, because you want shitty service here in the States. try eating at better places. Or leave a bad tip and tell the manager why on your way out the door. If you don't tell the manager, the waitress will assume you're an asshole instead of taking the lesson that she should improve her service skills. However, if you do this, don't ever plan on eating there again; she'll get the line cooks and dishwashers to spit in your food next time. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Open your own business and you can give your employees all the 'Holiday' you want, it isn't the governments job to mandate shit like this. And if you fell 'like a victim', like the liberals want to sell to you, and you don't have enough 'Holiday' get a different fucking job with more 'Holiday' - its called FREEDOM on both sides of the equation, for Gods sake have some confidence in yourself and quit relying on others to 'fix it for you' Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whatta got? I realize "Europeans" is a pretty broad term. My call is "Holiday". IMO many of them know how to balance life and work. The ones I work with routinely disappear for one or two weeks at various times throughout the year. Their attitude seems to be that either their business colleagues can step in in their absence, or it can jolly well wait until they return. I rarely work with a European professional that has the "squirrel on crack" mindset that so many US professionals do. Not advocating being lazy, but damn, IMO we could learn a thing or two from them about this. Open your own business and you can give your employees all the 'Holiday' you want, it isn't the governments job to mandate shit like this. And if you fell 'like a victim', like the liberals want to sell to you, and you don't have enough 'Holiday' get a different fucking job with more 'Holiday' - its called FREEDOM on both sides of the equation, for Gods sake have some confidence in yourself and quit relying on others to 'fix it for you' show the class where he said "it's the government's job to mandate shit like this" in his post. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:37:58 AM EDT
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Walk places
Eat good food Not work much Wear nice clothing but not own a lot of it Drink wine Fuck European women That’s what I did when I was over there. Life was measured differently. Why work yourself to death doing something that doesn’t matter when you can wear one nice outfit and drink all day in a 3,000 year old castle while the hottest women you’ve seen in your life prance by? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:41:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walk places Eat good food Not work much Wear nice clothing but not own a lot of it Drink wine Fuck European women That's what I did when I was over there. Life was measured differently. Why work yourself to death doing something that doesn't matter when you can wear one nice outfit and drink all day in a 3,000 year old castle while the hottest women you've seen in your life prance by? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:42:18 AM EDT
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Scandinavian countries will show full frontal nudity on daytime TV and suntan topless in the local park and I'm OK with that.
Then again it is not littered with land whales from Walmart so scratch that... |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:42:24 AM EDT
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I like their equivalent of our " nutrition facts" label a bit better with the E codes.
The nationalized/government train systems don't suck. Amtrak is an embarrassment for a first world country. Either get the government out completely and let it die or fix it. Decent and commonly availible low alcohol beers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:43:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many EU countries treat firearm mufflers as inexpensive, unregulated over the counter safety accessories. Yep, what I came to post. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:55:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sweden & Norway, Czechoslovakia, the USSR, and a few other places all broke apart peacefully.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:56:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It isn't paying someone extra to do their job, it is customary and understood that this part of the cost of dining out. You will pay for the cost of the labor one way or another. Eliminate tipping and have their employers pay them more will necessitate an increase in the cost of your food, and you will have no say in it. The servers will also have less motivation to please the diners, because they know how much is coming to them regardless of your dining experience. Why does this only have to happen in the hospitality industry? You don't tip your mechanic, or landscape guy, or cashiers, or nurses, or the line cooks for that matter, yet they all must perform some kind of service for you which mustn't displease you. What's so special about pouring water in a glass that we need to provide the additional financial incentive? |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:57:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Walk places Eat good food Not work much Wear nice clothing but not own a lot of it Drink wine Fuck European women That's what I did when I was over there. Life was measured differently. Why work yourself to death doing something that doesn't matter when you can wear one nice outfit and drink all day in a 3,000 year old castle while the hottest women you've seen in your life prance by?  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 10:57:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't have a real military and make us pay for all of it. We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves. Holy shit. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, which is why I noted things are changing. When I was working overseas it was becoming more common to see fat ugly flight attendants as well, something you never used to see on KLM, Lufthansa, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Eat a much better diet and not be fat; even that's changing though unfortunately. Yep, which is why I noted things are changing. When I was working overseas it was becoming more common to see fat ugly flight attendants as well, something you never used to see on KLM, Lufthansa, etc. Don’t know where you guys have been in the UK, but where I live right now, our fatties would be considered “mildly chubby” in the US (I lived in California, not the fattest state by a long shot). It’s really hard to see +300 lbs whales on scooters at the local Tesco Superstore, here. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:06:55 AM EDT
[#19]
Traffic moves better . They rarely have the unskilled and uninsured driving. Harder driving test.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:06:57 AM EDT
[#20]
Women act and dress like women.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:11:07 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Better french fries I think the real difference is in Europe they are just fresher. Here most fries sit under a heat lamp because most fries are fast food items in America In Europe most fries are cooked to order in real restaurants. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:13:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Charcuterie and patisserie shops. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:13:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Prices on goods in shops - in UK the price displayed is inclusive of tax. Mostly - some exceptions. It is a small thing but noticeable. To me anyway. You know why we do it that way? It is so that you can plainly see how much the government is stealing from you. The other way round makes it easy for the government to do shit like charge 20% VAT taxes for the privilege of allowing you to spend the half of your money that they were kind enough to allow you to keep after income taxes. I know Europeans find it quirky, but they also seem to enjoy paying more taxes. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:14:43 AM EDT
[#24]
work life balance and actually taking time off
bidets displaying the actual price and having it include all taxes and fees getting another country to spend a ton of money on military stuff to protect us would be nice. im mixed on tipping, on one hand i like the idea of not tipping, on the other i dont want to wait 40 minutes for an appetizer because i happen to order right before their half hour break. edit and autobahns. our speed limits are pretty much universally 30-50+ mph too slow on major roads |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:15:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And Farmers Markets legal prostitution legal drogas quality construction of houses/buildings/structures tall dutch females  A little ride on my s1000rr after the winter! |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:16:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The nationalized/government train systems don't suck. They are subsidized heavily by the government. Anyone can make a train profitable with free government cheese. Trains are for freight Get in your car if you want to go somewhere. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:16:42 AM EDT
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Work to live
Food portions smaller= less fat people Pubs always in walking distance Lived in England, Scotland, and Netherlands briefly for work. Between the train system and a bike rental I had no need for a car. Train system would be cost intensive for all of the US, but the idea is appealing compared to congested road traffic |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:18:57 AM EDT
[#28]
Do things like have a North American Union like the European union?
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:22:18 AM EDT
[#29]
And they can keep their universal health care.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:26:00 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the real difference is in Europe they are just fresher. Here most fries sit under a heat lamp because most fries are fast food items in America In Europe most fries are cooked to order in real restaurants.  Why Belgium Has The World’s Best Fries | Food Secrets Ep. 2 |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:26:53 AM EDT
[#31]
Take the stairs.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:28:49 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Don't have a real military and make us pay for all of it. We don’t need a military to secure our capital from ourselves. 
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:33:12 AM EDT
[#33]
Well, the Germans certainly knew how to deal with communists in 1919...
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:34:33 AM EDT
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(info may be dated) 14 years in Europe total.
- When you buy a British lottery ticket, the tax is in the cost of the ticket. You win, you take home the entire jackpot, in cash, on a pallet if that's the way you want it. A guy did it that way while we were there. - Europeans on the whole dress much better than Americans. They're quiet a bit slimmer, as well, though that's probably changing. Getting off an aircraft in America was a rude shock...I'd never seen so many morbidly obese people in my life. - The attitude towards work is real. There were 16 nations represented on Geilenkirchen. Mid-July, the US and Canada ran the place, because everyone else was on holiday. Our NATO secretary told me she could identify Americans and Kanucks by the speed of their footfalls...we generally walk much faster (her desk was right at the entrance to the commanders office, at the end of a long hall). I watched her do it. Pretty impressive. - German work standards are very high. Damn near everything requires a certification, and for the most part shit gets fixed right the first time. Our Dutch movers considered themselves "professionals". They took out an upper story window, installed a mobile elevator and got stuff up on the second floor I wouldn't have believed. Clean, pressed overalls, on-time and sober. They don't pick up a couple of guys from the Lowes parking lot every morning. They were actually fairly impressed by how our stuff arrived (I tipped the Florida crew generously). The foreman told me "Please convey our best wishes and compliments to our American colleagues"...and he meant it. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:37:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the Germans certainly knew how to deal with communists in 1919... |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:38:32 AM EDT
[#36]
They are a lot better about limiting what you can put in a product that will be sold as "food" than we are.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:51:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Driving. I agree, but different for every country: Germany follow the law to the nth degree. Still many sections of the Autobahn with no speed limit. Italy every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost. 3 lane roads means 5 cars wide. Sidewalks aren't just for pedestrians. UK, Think LEFT, think Left, think LEFT. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:54:40 AM EDT
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They also are much more strict about cars on the road meeting minimum safety standards. You don't see any dip-shits careening down the road in cobbled together hoopties with bald tires, bouncing on the blown out shocks like they're in a boat, and a turn indicator hanging off the car by it's wiring.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 11:59:46 AM EDT
[#39]
If there's one thing I'm good at, it's taking PTO. Last job I was at, I worked long enough to get 6 weeks. And I took every minute of it. Luckily, I had a manager that understood the need for that, and we made sure others were around to cover for me when I was out.
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:02:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Lots of good suggestions here.
When I was in England I really dug the corner pub (sometimes every corner  ) thing. Locals pissing on about basically everything was entertaining to watch and seemed to create a real sense of community. Their way of not trying to legislate morality is probably better although it's hit and miss like everywhere else. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:02:09 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, what I came to post. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Many EU countries treat firearm mufflers as inexpensive, unregulated over the counter safety accessories. Yep, what I came to post. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:02:31 PM EDT
[#42]
They disappear from work for far longer that a week or two at a time, especially in France, where I have quite a bit of experience with them.
They also absolutely stop answering the phone/working exactly at 1700, or on weekends. This is great for them and everything, but it makes our business of servicing 24/7 european industrial operations more difficult. This is a big contrast with our US operations in which everyone hopes to not need to be bothered on their time off, but does not demand it because they understand the nature of the business. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:04:40 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They disappear from work for far longer that a week or two at a time, especially in France, where I have quite a bit of experience with them. They also absolutely stop answering the phone/working exactly at 1700, or on weekends. This is great for them and everything, but it makes our business of servicing 24/7 european industrial operations more difficult. This is a big contrast with our US operations in which everyone hopes to not need to be bothered on their time off, but does not demand it because they understand the nature of the business. We have the live to work. European cities are dead on Sundays compared to American ones. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:05:30 PM EDT
[#44]
Finland has lax suppressor laws, they sell them at checkout counters stacked like Kinder eggs.
Other than that Europe has jack shit to offer us. Only faggot shitbird scum like the dem left see anything to emulate. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:06:29 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Americans also tend to believe Effort = Work, and Motion = Progress. The mentality of "A job isn't worth doing unless you're grinding yourself into dust! Anyone who tries to do things more efficiently is just lazy!" is bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They do have that right. We are grind till there's nothing left Americans also tend to believe Effort = Work, and Motion = Progress. The mentality of "A job isn't worth doing unless you're grinding yourself into dust! Anyone who tries to do things more efficiently is just lazy!" is bullshit. I’ve worked with German, Swede, French, and British contractors at various times. The Germans seemed to take work very seriously, while drinking beer, and once work was done, no more mention of it. Swedes had a similar attitude. French seemed to build their work day around meal planning. I can’t remember what the Brits were like. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:07:08 PM EDT
[#46]
Personally I'm quite fond of their gun laws, would love to move to Europe just so I can own an AR-15 or AK
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:08:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The main difference is cooking the fries in beef tallow. McDonalds used to do this back in the day, but it's more expensive than ultra processed vegetable oils. Of course the flash frozen variety will never be as good as fresh.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW4dmXrrwIYQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the real difference is in Europe they are just fresher. Here most fries sit under a heat lamp because most fries are fast food items in America In Europe most fries are cooked to order in real restaurants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW4dmXrrwIYBut you are right. No American ones do. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:10:43 PM EDT
[#48]
OP likes NPR, and frequently starts sentences with "I heard on NPR".
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:11:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Charcuterie and patisserie shops. Americans don't need any more help being fat. |
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Posted: 3/13/2021 12:12:49 PM EDT
[#50]
Taking the European approach all depends on the execution. As the old joke goes,
Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organized by the Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the lover's Swiss, the police German and it's all organized by the Italians. |
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