Ford extends U.S. production cuts as expected due to chip shortage

https://seekingalpha.com/news/3711551-ford-extends-us-production-cuts-as-expected-due-to-chip-shortage?mail_subject=f-ford-extends-u-s-production-cuts-as-expected-due-to-chip-shortage&utm_campaign=rta-stock-news&utm_content=link-3&utm_medium=email&utm_source=seeking_alpha

What do chip shortages have to do with soyboi's?

Muh 12" infotainment screen.

yep....and all the dumb shit no one asked for.

That's waht happens whan you let the marketing department make decisions and not the engineers.

The marketing department probably polled all Those soi bois in Dallas to see what they want in a truck

What did you expect? Ford’s got Obama’s buddy Bill Kennard on the BoD and the sustainability and innovation committee (he’s also on Dominion’s BoD and AT&T’s).

Um. Engineers are the worst at trying to add tech you don’t really need.

eggsactly

I am not talking about BMWs engineers here...I am talking about the good ole boys from Detroit. The ones that used to make stuff reliable

In before someone equates you pointing out many accessories are dumb to you wanting crank windows and an AM radio.

Well for one I don't need a dumb ass console shifter than can fold down and get stuck and render your truck inoperable....

Please explain what engineers would have done to prevent a global shortage? and infotainment has nothing to do with this either.

Nothing brings out the herp and derp here like auto threads.

Got a new truck waiting for me. Need the title on my current truck so i can sell it. Hoping the shortages last another couple months, since my title will be another 4-6 weeks.

lol wut

American designed vehicles have steadily been getting more reliable, not less. The good ole boys from Detroit designed and made less reliable trucks.

Can't tell if this is satire or you're over 70.

My biggest gripe with new cars is how they take things that used to be simple and mechanical and replace them with digital/electronic controls that add to the vehicle cost and create expensive headaches when they fail.

That and the nanny shit. Take Toyota for example... You can't even buy a truck now without
Toyota Safety Sense.

Trust me, for every 1 design engineer we have up stream there is a factor of 100s down stream making it happen.

I'd like to point out we are still cranking out 1500 plus suvs a day as well

Edit due to phone...

They would have done a vertical integration a long time ago and have multiple supply chains in order to maintain a solid inventory of chips and not just rely on the JIT systems that are constantly used. By spreading out the use of chips over the course of several lines of product you can have a built in system of redundancy that should not be any more cost effective than using two or more suppliers are the macro level. By doing so, you are driving share holder value while also maintaing a good report with the stake holder model of conducting business at an international level. In doing do, they could have also levered the exchange rate of other countries currency with ours by finding a place where the labor was talented enough to make chips and also allow us to get juice off the exchange rate of the two economies. By doing that there would have been a great promotion of synergy between economies and also a stop gap measure in production reliability that can be harmed by natural disasters, global pandemic and supply chain interruptions by shipping companies.

anyone can make a 4 cylinder that goes 300,000 miles pushing a 2000 lb car.

Not everyone can make an engine that toes 30,000 a day and lasts 300,000 miles

What's that?

1500 Fjords?

Yep. When I bought my 17 Tacoma all that lane monitoring/auto brake stuff was optional. I was able to find one without it.  Now it's standard.

That's a lot of toes.

so like it doesn't let you run over geese in the middle of the road? asking for a friend

Actually this is what happens when Soy Bois are too busy making trucks lol

Check my state, not Fords....

Although I do love my F150

No difference these days in BMW and Ford use of electronics.  All the subsystems use electronics, way beyond the info center

It's just the weekly Ford bashing thread by Midcap, he needs therapy

that's what she said

those brands are smarter that Fjord

it's not what you use, it's how you use it and how many

Cafe and emission standards had the most to do with complicated electronics

I wouldn't call pointing out the truth bashing.

is that why ford has a 20" info taint ment screen and an electruic shifter knob?

Trucks have gotten bloated and expensive.

My next truck won't hit the lot till the 8th and at 64500 msrp i doubt  I'll be able to talk them down much.

I'd love a 60k  start price with my 12k trade value and 5-6k down

That should put me around 40k financed and sub 725 for the note which roughly matches the note on the truck I'm trading.

Sucks to need to trade the truck in but 7500ish in maintenance needs, plus trade values being the highest ever, and my credit being fairly good a means new dually for me.

Upside is ill still get the 8.4inch screen and power locks, 4wd, and highest tow rating available. That should be nice next time I'm towing in the rockies

Downside is I need a new hitch for the camper.

But really I wanted to buy the Ole lady a new car this year. Don't think that's gonna happen yet.

Boomers did this.

I love all the tech shit in my 2021 F150.  I love vented seats on 90+ degree days and my 12 inch infotainment screen.  Obviously, there's a demand.

i have no interest in buying a stripped down truck.

There are 10 gear CVTs for a reason.

We've got some great people I'll tell you that.

This shouldn't be new to anyone in auto, it happens and has been done before.  Fukushima comes to mind.  Oh and every freaking single ip carrier sub supplier catching on fire at some point.

I just got a GMC Elevation 4wd for under $50,000

It has everything I need

Change auto threads to “the internet” and then you realize it’s all nonsense.

I know, schoold out for the summer, can't wait until the kids log off and get back to school to let the adults talk

It's basically Toyota's version of Subaru Eyesight.

Crash avoidance, lane departure warnings, adaptive cruise, blind spot monitoring...

Unless American auto companies can afford to buy out Micron or Samsungs silicon factories there was no other viable option to avoid the chip shortage.

I;d like that, seems like it would give you more time to watch netflix on your phone and text

You can turn all of the TSS stuff off though so I don't see the big deal?

I for one love the BSM and Cross-Traffic alerts in my wife's RAV4 along with the Radar Cruise Control.  I never turn on the Lane Keeping Assist as I find it annoying but I can see why some do.  The ability of it to read speed limit signs is fantastic as I can't tell you how many times I'm driving along and don't recall seeing a sign, look down in the dash, and see that the speed limit is 40mph as the RAV4 saw the sign that I missed.

Why would the pedestrian sensing stuff that can stop your car if a 2 y/o kid dashes out from between parked cars that you'd never see before hitting them be a bad thing

It also lowers your insurance rates.

You'll only continue to get more of that.  You can thank .gov

Real trucks don’t need fucking chips.

Understanding the factors that determine which types of transactions are mediated through
markets and which within firms through vertical integration has been an important subject of
theoretical and empirical research in microeconomics for at least the last 25 years. Moreover,
vertical integration and related vertical no-standard contractual arrangements (so-called “vertical
restraints”) have historically attracted considerable attention under U.S. and E.U. antitrust laws.
Surprisingly, however, most intermediate microeconomics textbooks pay little if any attention to the
causes and consequences of vertical integration between suppliers of intermediate goods and
services (“upstream”) and the purchasers of those goods and services (“downstream”) This chapter
reviews theoretical and empirical work in microeconomics that examines the causes and
consequences of vertical integration and identifies relationships between vertical integration and
substitute non-standard vertical contractual arrangements.
I want to emphasize at the outset that there is not and will never be one unified theory of
vertical integration. Moreover, while some of the literature on vertical integration focuses on a
simple dichotomy between the decision to “make” internally or “buy” through the market, in reality
these two governance arrangements are polar cases. A comprehensive analysis of the underlying
causes and consequences of vertical integration should not only examine the determinants of the
boundaries between firms and markets but also the origins of various “non-standard” contractual
arrangements or “hybrid forms” that lie between simple anonymous spot market transactions and
internal organization. These hybrid forms include various types of long term contracts, franchise
contracts, non-linear pricing arrangements, resale price maintenance agreements, requirements
contracts, joint ventures, dual sourcing (partial vertical integration) and others. Depending on the
circumstances, these alternative contractual arrangements may be perfect or imperfect substitutes for
vertical integration for dealing with problems that may arise by relying only on simple repeated spot
market relationships between upstream and downstream firms.

What the fuck is this retardation.

If modern comfort and convenience features are too much for the feeble minded here they should stick with their "simple and easy to work on" and apparently "more reliable" vehicles from decades ago.

No, this is what happens when retards believe the government that covid was going to be a planet killer.

Put it this way...I was driving my wife's Outback and went to go around a guy who was turning right and the car decided I was too close to his car, thought I was going to rear end him (I was completely fine) and the computer jabbed the brakes hard enough to scare the fuck out of me and nose dive the car a bit.

Not cool. I don't want my car making decisions for me.

I don't need no chip to turn on my seat cooler.