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What is incredibly frustrating in this thread is the same mindset that poisons people.

Loads of excuses and not solutions...

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I am not talking about BMWs engineers here...I am talking about the good ole boys from Detroit. The ones that used to make stuff reliable

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That's cool just make it an option, not a mandate. I pay cash for my vehicles and drive them until the wheels fall off. I don't want to be nickel and dime'd fixing electrical problems and replacing expensive touchscreens and monitoring sensors.

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I am not talking about BMWs engineers here...I am talking about the good ole boys from Detroit. The ones that used to make stuff reliable

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Yep. When I bought my 17 Tacoma all that lane monitoring/auto brake stuff was optional. I was able to find one without it.  Now it's standard.

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Understanding the factors that determine which types of transactions are mediated through
markets and which within firms through vertical integration has been an important subject of
theoretical and empirical research in microeconomics for at least the last 25 years. Moreover,
vertical integration and related vertical no-standard contractual arrangements (so-called “vertical
restraints”) have historically attracted considerable attention under U.S. and E.U. antitrust laws.
Surprisingly, however, most intermediate microeconomics textbooks pay little if any attention to the
causes and consequences of vertical integration between suppliers of intermediate goods and
services (“upstream”) and the purchasers of those goods and services (“downstream”) This chapter
reviews theoretical and empirical work in microeconomics that examines the causes and
consequences of vertical integration and identifies relationships between vertical integration and
substitute non-standard vertical contractual arrangements.
I want to emphasize at the outset that there is not and will never be one unified theory of
vertical integration. Moreover, while some of the literature on vertical integration focuses on a
simple dichotomy between the decision to “make” internally or “buy” through the market, in reality
these two governance arrangements are polar cases. A comprehensive analysis of the underlying
causes and consequences of vertical integration should not only examine the determinants of the
boundaries between firms and markets but also the origins of various “non-standard” contractual
arrangements or “hybrid forms” that lie between simple anonymous spot market transactions and
internal organization. These hybrid forms include various types of long term contracts, franchise
contracts, non-linear pricing arrangements, resale price maintenance agreements, requirements
contracts, joint ventures, dual sourcing (partial vertical integration) and others. Depending on the
circumstances, these alternative contractual arrangements may be perfect or imperfect substitutes for
vertical integration for dealing with problems that may arise by relying only on simple repeated spot
market relationships between upstream and downstream firms.

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Exactly....Losers make excuses winners make it happen

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Cool story bro. Explain how they could have avoided the chip shortage without buying silicon refinement. Which they couldn't because the silicon mines and operations are als typically owned by Samsung and micron.

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Production numbers here disagree with you.  It can be done.  Not easy, but possible.  Adapt and overcome.

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Well numbers don't "disagree"  numbers aren't people and cannot disagree. Looking at numbers can be used by a person to disagree. However silicon and chips come from 2 main sources and a few small operations for the whole world.

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I am talking about the good ole boys from Detroit. The ones that used to make stuff reliable

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Imagine if Henry ford listened to the losers about making cars fast for the people.

But somewhere along the way, pioneers like Henry were replaced with wall street fat cats that are only worried about their golden parachutes.

Lee Iacocca is rolling over in his grave

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Were they big as whales?

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Options

1-use less chips(relatively easy offer less options)

2-certify other chips(costly and a pain, believe me, but very possible

3-sit on ass an wait for world to reset

I'm not the #3 kinda guy

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My problem with the infotainment system isn’t the fact it’s an infotainment system.

But that the car narcs on you to everyone is.

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Dude you're posting in general discussion of ar15.com. You are saying you're not a number 3 guy. You out definitely are a number 3 guy. You keep saying "you're doing something" what are you doing?  You can't just take a random chip with a random architecture and "certify" it. It simply doesn't work that way.  

Again it's the manufacturing process and right now they're being used for home and business counter markets. That's where the majority of the manufacturing is at right now.

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They were about to set sail.

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is that why ford has a 20" info taint ment screen and an electruic shifter knob?

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Local Ford lot is full of trucks, but who wants a $40-50k truck

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the shifter folds down and then you can't move it

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Local Ford lot is full of trucks, but who wants a $40-50k truck

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Local Ford lot is full of trucks, but who wants a $40-50k truck

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Op.

I hope you do understand this is affecting ALL industries right?


CAT has production delays.
PACCAR has production delays.
Freightliner has HUGE production delays.


Etc.

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Yep. When I bought my 17 Tacoma all that lane monitoring/auto brake stuff was optional. I was able to find one without it.  Now it's standard.

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Muh 12" infotainment screen.