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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:06:32 AM EST
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Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. funny , was just talking with my kids about this the other day 50% seems high to me , but would explain a lot of the idiotic mentality I see around me |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:06:48 AM EST
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If you couldn't do it, you'd have no concept of it, so it wouldn't bother you. To be honest it's difficult for me to conceptualize being unable to, in the same way that I'll never know exactly what it's like to have been born without eyes.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:13:01 AM EST
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Wow! If OP is accurate, that is terrifying.
As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. I am gone in a few seconds, would rather read a good book than watch most tv. Had no idea what OP posted about was an identified issue. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:15:55 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you couldn't do it, you'd have no concept of it, so it wouldn't bother you. To be honest it's difficult for me to conceptualize being unable to, in the same way that I'll never know exactly what it's like to have been born without eyes.  But let's say I get a head injury that removes both abilities. I'd at least remember being able to do it I would think.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:16:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. 22% of Americans can't even read. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:16:31 AM EST
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Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. I found this out recently. It explains overwhelming why the world has so many problems. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:16:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow! If OP is accurate, that is terrifying. As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. I am gone in a few seconds, would rather read a good book than watch most tv. Had no idea what OP posted about was an identified issue. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:19:33 AM EST
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My wife has aphantasia, but is an award winning watercolor artist.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:19:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 22% of Americans can't even read. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. 22% of Americans can't even read. 
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:20:41 AM EST
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Sometimes I wish my internal monologue would be quiet. That may just be the voices in my head though.
I never knew there was such a thing, it can’t be easy to do anything with such a condition. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:23:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you couldn't do it, you'd have no concept of it, so it wouldn't bother you. To be honest it's difficult for me to conceptualize being unable to, in the same way that I'll never know exactly what it's like to have been born without eyes. It would be like a mystery. Or a conspiracy- like patriarchy. Like a type of magic exerted by others as perceived by the incapable. Unable to function beyond a certain level (that they can see others navigate without difficulty or with ease). Automatically suspicious if they perceive an inability to control it, adapt to it, understand it, etc. And it explains why others were more capable- a closed unsharing hateful thing- like white patriarchy. Magic. Because you can't understand it. And why you need to equalize it with downward equity, i.e. repressive tolerance and oppression through a religious belief system (cultural Marxism/ identity politics). I'm pretty sure this is the recruiting pool for for most Karens- and socialists. Control freaks. Who recognize they are many and can organize around a constructed, divorced-from-reality belief system that identifies its enemies within. Those who need to control others vs. those who want to be left alone. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:23:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sometimes I wish my internal monologue would be quiet. That may just be the voices in my head though. I never knew there was such a thing, it can’t be easy to do anything with such a condition. Seriously. Are these people in "fucking send it" mode 24/7? It doesn't make sense. How does risk/reward evaluation work without an inner monologue? Edit - The older I get it becomes MUCH harder to visualize things, but I always figured dying imagination comes with age. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:24:10 AM EST
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Also for your reading pleasure:
https://theconversation.com/the-art-of-aphantasia-how-mind-blind-artists-create-without-being-able-to-visualise-162566 |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:27:00 AM EST
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Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. I probably have an “external monologue” . I kinda talk and mumble to myself at work. (Stop laughing) So it probably drives my co-workers nuts. But I work 12 hour rotating shifts. And I feel exhausted all the time. So talking to myself is how I keep my train of thought. However, this is how I rationalize it. I work with hydrocarbons above their auto-ignition temperature. All they need to do is get to fresh air and they automatically catch on fire. Then there is hydrogen sulfide gas. Accidentally inhale that stuff and it will kill you. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:29:36 AM EST
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My problem is I can't get mine to STFU.
As well, what's been seen can't be unseen. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:29:56 AM EST
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I can visualize things to an extent. I am bipolar, have ADHD, and am high functioning autistic. Just yesterday, I took two 1/4 parts of a caffeine pill a bit too close to each other, my internal voice was off the rails for awhile, way too loud, talking way too fast, and saying a decent amount of profanity. To make things more interesting, I was going to a Russian congregation, where everything is in Russian, which changes my internal voice's language to Russian all the time, some days more than others. My inner voice will sometimes spontaneously say something, or even a few sentences in Russian, but a lot of times I make a slight conscious effort to switch to it.
I never could paint or draw, I don't know why, part of it is probably the inherent physical clumsiness often associated with people that are on the autism spectrum, but I think part of it may be I can't really strongly visualize things in my mind, and I have some visuo-spacial issues most likely too. I know that as far back as kindergarten, I always had trouble with doing things with my hands and eyes, assignments that involved cutting paper, pasting things onto it, things like that. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:30:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: funny , was just talking with my kids about this the other day 50% seems high to me , but would explain a lot of the idiotic mentality I see around me Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. funny , was just talking with my kids about this the other day 50% seems high to me , but would explain a lot of the idiotic mentality I see around me funny , was just talking with myself about this the other day.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:30:08 AM EST
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I'd guess 85% of the population is no smarter than an animal in terms of controlling themselves and being able to reason.
That's why AI is terrifying. It will eventually get to the level of a highly intelligent mind, but it won't ever be capable or true creativity, invention, or existential observation. The mind is simply a collection of experiences, either positive or negative, that leave an impression. Beings then try to repeat or not repeat the experience, which is a desire. The cycle repeats endlessly until it becomes so tiresome that people begin to question "why" even do it at all (existential crisis). Then it takes a long time (generally) to be able to observe the mind and realize that our existence is not the mind (DeCartes was completely backwards), but the substrate beyond those thoughts. The nature of Truth or "Perennial Wisdom" as it's been called goes even deeper. The "soul" (or Consciousness or Self, whatever you want to call it) is what is actually existing and observing the ego/mind (what people think/feel "they" are- their sense of "I") The wild part is "I" doesn't even exist outside of memories that are long gone, or desires that have never happened. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:32:01 AM EST
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I am fascinated by this topic,I almost made a poll about last week.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:32:36 AM EST
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is there an IQ attachment to it?
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:33:00 AM EST
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It would be interesting to see the functional MRI’s of these people’s brains without a “mind’s eye” and/or an internal monologue .
Supposedly, serial killers have had fMRI’s done of their brains and they are literally wired differently. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:33:42 AM EST
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@Miami_JBT
now look at IQ when there is a lack of education in combination with these facts I also find it odd that out of the people that can monologue internally most can't do more than one at a time while I can do three clearly |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:34:38 AM EST
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I'm probably internally monologuing (internally speaking to myself) 10X to what I'm actually verbalizing.
I feel like wife is the exact opposite!!!  I think if you are a day dreamer, you definitely have a well developed mind's eye! -ZA |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:35:27 AM EST
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Who needs a mind's eye when all of your information is fed to you through a visual medium? Being able to visualize information is a skill that you develop because you didn't have access to the visual data in the first place, but that is completely (or almost completely) unnecessary today.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:36:37 AM EST
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 Attached FileEven stupid people think about things when they aren’t constantly watching videos on their phone. I do believe that as the mind ages, it becomes less capable of generating new, original thoughts. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:37:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd guess 85% of the population is no smarter than an animal in terms of controlling themselves and being able to reason. That's why AI is terrifying. It will eventually get to the level of a highly intelligent mind, but it won't ever be capable or true creativity, invention, or existential observation. The mind is simply a collection of experiences, either positive or negative, that leave an impression. Beings then try to repeat or not repeat the experience, which is a desire. The cycle repeats endlessly until it becomes so tiresome that people begin to question "why" even do it at all (existential crisis). Then it takes a long time (generally) to be able to observe the mind and realize that our existence is not the mind (DeCartes was completely backwards), but the substrate beyond those thoughts. The nature of Truth or "Perennial Wisdom" as it's been called goes even deeper. The "soul" (or Consciousness or Self, whatever you want to call it) is what is actually existing and observing the ego/mind (what people think/feel "they" are- their sense of "I") The wild part is "I" doesn't even exist outside of memories that are long gone, or desires that have never happened. The far east figured that out 2500 years ago Color blinds the eye Noise deafen the ears Emotions wither the heart |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:37:16 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: funny , was just talking with my kids about this the other day 50% seems high to me , but would explain a lot of the idiotic mentality I see around me Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. funny , was just talking with my kids about this the other day 50% seems high to me , but would explain a lot of the idiotic mentality I see around me this might explain thuggish/ murderous assholes behavior |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:40:03 AM EST
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Quoted: It would be like a mystery. Or a conspiracy- like patriarchy. Like a type of magic exerted by others as perceived by the incapable. Unable to function beyond a certain level (that they can see others navigate without difficulty or with ease). Automatically suspicious if they perceive an inability to control it, adapt to it, understand it, etc. And it explains why others were more capable- a closed unsharing hateful thing- like white patriarchy. Magic. Because you can't understand it. And why you need to equalize it with downward equity, i.e. repressive tolerance and oppression through a religious belief system (cultural Marxism/ identity politics). I'm pretty sure this is the recruiting pool for for most Karens- and socialists. Control freaks. Who recognize they are many and can organize around a constructed, divorced-from-reality belief system that identifies its enemies within. Those who need to control others vs. those who want to be left alone. I've developed feelings which might actually mirror leftists, but really are just universal human feelings. It's really just envy, or feelings of unfairness at the heart of it all. I'm 35, I've never had a girlfriend (I got all but all the way with a girl one night....and then saw her in another guy's arms the very next night....that's scarred me, I swear), I've never had a real job for more than a month, twice. I have ADHD/am Bipolar/have high functioning autism. I only came to learn in more recent years, people with aspbergers/high functioning autism tend to have these or some of these problems. But I'm constantly looking at others, and asking myself "Why was I born this way? Why was I cursed with all of these things? Not just ADHD....it had to be more than that." Most people could never know what it's like, and no individual can know exactly what it's like for another. I've even been dealing with anger towards god because of my situation. I don't think you can say all envy is purely evil, but it often leads to evil actions, but the reasons someone may have for it can be legitimate. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:40:08 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow! If OP is accurate, that is terrifying. As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. I am gone in a few seconds, would rather read a good book than watch most tv. Had no idea what OP posted about was an identified issue. Same here. When I read a book it is easy for me to visualize what the characters are doing, the environment they're in. I love reading and usually read a bit before I go to bed. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:40:40 AM EST
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I would like to know more about this. I tend to run through different interaction scenarios in my head, as if I'm writing scenes for a TV show called my life. I'll play these scenes as a way of deciding how to approach situations. Are we talking about the opposite of something like this, where the person basically has a "blank mind" where they don't "think to themselves?" Or am I misreading the OP?
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:40:51 AM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif Even stupid people think about things when they aren’t constantly watching videos on their phone. I do believe that as the mind ages, it becomes less capable of generating new, original thoughts. There's a difference between pointless wandering and problem-solving. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:44:21 AM EST
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People who are incapable of understanding that there are people out there with no internal monologue or mind’s eye are exactly the same kind of people who say things like “the problem is the culture.”
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:49:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can have a concept of it because I can internalize it via internal monologue and visualization. But let's say I get a head injury that removes both abilities. I'd at least remember being able to do it I would think.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you couldn't do it, you'd have no concept of it, so it wouldn't bother you. To be honest it's difficult for me to conceptualize being unable to, in the same way that I'll never know exactly what it's like to have been born without eyes. But let's say I get a head injury that removes both abilities. I'd at least remember being able to do it I would think.After my head injury I was so confused with everything. Frustration knowing your ability has changed. And you look the same so everyone around you expects the normal you. I could barely write my own name. When trying to read or write, in my head I saw all the numbers and letters bouncing around. What you describe I'm very familiar with. I use to picture in my head every day work , before and after blasting as an example. It was like I had flashcards in my head how the day would go. Working through the pain in your head and trying to comprehend what was written is still pretty bad but has gotten better. A simple task that had any dangers to it I knew I had to be extra careful because I wasn't my normal self. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:51:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a difference between pointless wandering and problem-solving. The claim is that up to 50% of the population has no internal monologue. I don’t think I’ve met anybody who is unable to think in a distraction-free environment. I have met a lot of people for whom their internal monologue is full of regret over their life choices. These people watch a lot of TV, listen to music, play on their phone, and do ANYTHING to distract themselves. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:55:24 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People who are incapable of understanding that there are people out there with no internal monologue or mind’s eye are exactly the same kind of people who say things like “the problem is the culture.” Culture is a fair part of it still. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:55:27 AM EST
[#36]
Quoted: I find it fascinating and scary at the same time that close to 50% of the human population doesn't have an internal monologue and even some of those, furthermore, suffer from Aphantasia. Meaning they don't have a "mind's eye" and can't visualize their thoughts either. They can only think in terms of urges and impulses. They can't self-debate or even visualize what they want/think of. I have an internal monologue and a mind's eye. I constantly visualize and internally verbalize my thoughts. Just thinking about not being able to do such a thing terrifies me but fascinates me too. I'm curious how the other side lives. How do they do something as simple as think of what to write, or what to wear? How to they philosophize and theorize? How do they daydream? How do they remember faces, songs, film, literature? Honestly, if I couldn't do either, I'd probably go insane. Huh, I didn't know those were things (absence of them that is) and I wouldn't have guessed that they were that prevalent. I might have to explore this more to see if there's a link to the 50% failure rate in nuclear licensing classes. I have to believe you need both of these to succeed in license class. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:56:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Miami_JBT now look at IQ when there is a lack of education in combination with these facts I also find it odd that out of the people that can monologue internally most can't do more than one at a time while I can do three clearly |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:57:55 AM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/dont_believe_you_anchorman_zps267e5cbb_GIF-108.gif Even stupid people think about things when they aren't constantly watching videos on their phone. I do believe that as the mind ages, it becomes less capable of generating new, original thoughts. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:58:33 AM EST
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Quoted: I found this out recently. It explains overwhelming why the world has so many problems. Is there a correlation to intelligence and/or ability? If one is lacking these things, are they less likely to succeed in life? |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:58:49 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've developed feelings which might actually mirror leftists, but really are just universal human feelings. It's really just envy, or feelings of unfairness at the heart of it all. I'm 35, I've never had a girlfriend (I got all but all the way with a girl one night....and then saw her in another guy's arms the very next night....that's scarred me, I swear), I've never had a real job for more than a month, twice. I have ADHD/am Bipolar/have high functioning autism. I only came to learn in more recent years, people with aspbergers/high functioning autism tend to have these or some of these problems. But I'm constantly looking at others, and asking myself "Why was I born this way? Why was I cursed with all of these things? Not just ADHD....it had to be more than that." Most people could never know what it's like, and no individual can know exactly what it's like for another. I've even been dealing with anger towards god because of my situation. I don't think you can say all envy is purely evil, but it often leads to evil actions, but the reasons someone may have for it can be legitimate. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It would be like a mystery. Or a conspiracy- like patriarchy. Like a type of magic exerted by others as perceived by the incapable. Unable to function beyond a certain level (that they can see others navigate without difficulty or with ease). Automatically suspicious if they perceive an inability to control it, adapt to it, understand it, etc. And it explains why others were more capable- a closed unsharing hateful thing- like white patriarchy. Magic. Because you can't understand it. And why you need to equalize it with downward equity, i.e. repressive tolerance and oppression through a religious belief system (cultural Marxism/ identity politics). I'm pretty sure this is the recruiting pool for for most Karens- and socialists. Control freaks. Who recognize they are many and can organize around a constructed, divorced-from-reality belief system that identifies its enemies within. Those who need to control others vs. those who want to be left alone. I've developed feelings which might actually mirror leftists, but really are just universal human feelings. It's really just envy, or feelings of unfairness at the heart of it all. I'm 35, I've never had a girlfriend (I got all but all the way with a girl one night....and then saw her in another guy's arms the very next night....that's scarred me, I swear), I've never had a real job for more than a month, twice. I have ADHD/am Bipolar/have high functioning autism. I only came to learn in more recent years, people with aspbergers/high functioning autism tend to have these or some of these problems. But I'm constantly looking at others, and asking myself "Why was I born this way? Why was I cursed with all of these things? Not just ADHD....it had to be more than that." Most people could never know what it's like, and no individual can know exactly what it's like for another. I've even been dealing with anger towards god because of my situation. I don't think you can say all envy is purely evil, but it often leads to evil actions, but the reasons someone may have for it can be legitimate. Autism just makes you focus because you can't let go of certain things and all that mental effort eventually requires you to go in a direction, to test a fix, a solution - when you decide to- or go mad or just give in to abuse. Ohhh sure-distraction works for a while...A nice anchor point in life, with some certainty/ consistency, helps. An anchor point. Something you can sense as real. And lasting. True to nature. Even a starting point to a more stable life. Sorting through others' bullshit and dealing with that. A lot of it has to do with believing in yourself. To find that safe space. Environment has a lot to do with it. This is reflected, in part, with the times, of single parenthood. I've never seen so many lost people, both sexes, cut loose, out and about, trying to exist as decent functioning people, in my entire life, as of now, in this day- and it's fucking scary. And sad. Autist to autist. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 11:59:37 AM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who needs a mind's eye when all of your information is fed to you through a visual medium? Being able to visualize information is a skill that you develop because you didn't have access to the visual data in the first place, but that is completely (or almost completely) unnecessary today. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:01:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The claim is that up to 50% of the population has no internal monologue. I don’t think I’ve met anybody who is unable to think in a distraction-free environment. I have met a lot of people for whom their internal monologue is full of regret over their life choices. These people watch a lot of TV, listen to music, play on their phone, and do ANYTHING to distract themselves. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There's a difference between pointless wandering and problem-solving. The claim is that up to 50% of the population has no internal monologue. I don’t think I’ve met anybody who is unable to think in a distraction-free environment. I have met a lot of people for whom their internal monologue is full of regret over their life choices. These people watch a lot of TV, listen to music, play on their phone, and do ANYTHING to distract themselves. Yes. And you will do that until you concentrate on resolving things that you can, or recognize you are beating your head on a wall. For those with the capacity. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:01:30 PM EST
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Wat?
It would seem to be an integral part of the human condition to be equipped with these things.. 
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:01:37 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, it exists and folks are clinically identified as sufferers of such issues. I understand it exists, but there must be some kind of spectrum. At one end would be people who are in a semi-vegetable state and can only move towards food and away from danger. At the other end would be Hannibal Lecter types who can build a simulator in their mind of another person’s thought process. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:02:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People who are incapable of understanding that there are people out there with no internal monologue or mind’s eye are exactly the same kind of people who say things like “the problem is the culture.” Culture follows structure. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:03:17 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would like to know more about this. I tend to run through different interaction scenarios in my head, as if I'm writing scenes for a TV show called my life. I'll play these scenes as a way of deciding how to approach situations. Are we talking about the opposite of something like this, where the person basically has a "blank mind" where they don't "think to themselves?" Or am I misreading the OP? |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:14:57 PM EST
[#47]
There are a lot of NPCs out there
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:17:28 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. When I read a book it is easy for me to visualize what the characters are doing, the environment they're in. I love reading and usually read a bit before I go to bed. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wow! If OP is accurate, that is terrifying. As an avid reader I always felt bad for those that can't pick up a book and in a few moments find themselves is a mental movie. I am gone in a few seconds, would rather read a good book than watch most tv. Had no idea what OP posted about was an identified issue. Same here. When I read a book it is easy for me to visualize what the characters are doing, the environment they're in. I love reading and usually read a bit before I go to bed. My problem is that when I finally see the movie, it's not what I imagined in the book and I was wrong. |
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:20:26 PM EST
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OP how did you come across this topic? I've always thought there are some of us who are 'old souls' that have more of a cerebral connection to something bigger, or something past, like we have been here before, that allows us to operate at a higher level.
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Posted: 5/15/2023 12:22:08 PM EST
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- (if you respond to this thread with a witty remark, you'll be cool and as well liked as subnet)
- (but you are not witty, more of a 'tard really) - (yes, I will keep quiet and wait for the next chili thread) |
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