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Posted: 2/10/2020 9:26:37 AM EDT
Man PLOWS Van Into Republican Voter Tent In Florida, Civil War 2 Closer To Becoming Reality


For a long time I was assuming this attitude about CW 2.0/boogaloo/whatever was masturbatory hyperbole on both sides, and just kind of laughed it off.  But when someone even as level headed as Tim Pool notices the boiling point rapidly approaching, I start to notice.

Watch it from the point of view a centrist would have.  Even he's starting to get worried.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:27:23 AM EDT
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Civil war starts slowly, then quickly.

This incident is essentially identical to the Charlottesville deal only with a hell of a lot less provocation on the part of the victims (not justifying that other asshole's murder)

Note the disparity in media response, though.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:32:26 AM EDT
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

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Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:36:34 AM EDT
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Tim's podcasts have been more and more worthwhile recently.

I used to use him as filler when I was out of Levin, but his desire to fix the democratic party has him hitting on all the same flaws we do.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:36:50 AM EDT
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Civil wars don't generally start with the little people or with the average non-governmental citizenry. In general they are caused by irreconcilable  splits in the highest levels of government and military.

Displeasure among the people can cause protests, riots, insurgencies, and even revolution. But if you wanna talk about civil war then you gotta talk about what's going on at the highest levels of government and military. What's happening amongst the citizenry can have an effect because those up high may gauge their support by it, however, what's going on down low doesn't create or run a civil war. It requires organized governments and their organized militaries fighting each other for exclusive regional or national control.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:38:12 AM EDT
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Pool is slowly coming around.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:38:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:38:43 AM EDT
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

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FIFY
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:40:03 AM EDT
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lol, arfcom fatties wet dream to start shooting something
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Civil wars don't generally start with the little people or with the average non-governmental citizenry. In general they are caused by irreconcilable  splits in the highest levels of government and military.

Displeasure among the people can cause protests, riots, insurgencies, and even revolution. But if you wanna talk about civil war then you gotta talk about what's going on at the highest levels of government and military.
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War in general isn't a "little people" thing; it requires the organization of governments to reach the scale we call warfare.  For good and bad.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:40:26 AM EDT
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How many young white radicals are going to have to drive vehicles into... wait... what?
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:41:35 AM EDT
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side owns more and a lot more ammo

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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FIFY
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:43:33 AM EDT
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Pool is slowly coming around.
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He will vote for Bernie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6n6kDdpME

For a long time I was assuming this attitude about CW 2.0/boogaloo/whatever was masturbatory hyperbole on both sides, and just kind of laughed it off.  But when someone even as level headed as Tim Pool notices the boiling point rapidly approaching, I start to notice.

Watch it from the point of view a centrist would have.  Even he's starting to get worried.
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Tim’s been discussing it for quite a while now.

He has an interesting perspective on these things.
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Do you really think the other side doesn’t own guns or train? Have military experience?

Im pretty sure if a civil war started here the leftist billionaires would have zero issues funding a small army.
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He will vote for Bernie
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He claims Bernie is way too extreme left for him anymore.
That if Bernie does get the nomination, he will not be voting.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:47:59 AM EDT
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Not a CW but lots of this car type of BS leading up to and after the 2020 election

More marches and protests that get violent
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He will vote for Bernie
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Pool is slowly coming around.
He will vote for Bernie
He has stated he is not voting in 2020.  He also did not vote in 2016.

He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process.

Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen.  Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies.

It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left.
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I think the only thing keeping it from happening at this point is the lack of a clear, clean, charismatic and articulate leader.
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10 years of gradual usurpations before the original boog kicked off. The fact the Va. legislature has gone deaf is reminiscent of Parliament...when they start mocking opponents it’s gonna go downhill quickly.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 9:56:21 AM EDT
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lol, arfcom fatties wet dream to start shooting something
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We aren't all fatties.  They will work for logistics and supply chain management.
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Do you really think the other side doesn’t own guns or train? Have military experience?

Im pretty sure if a civil war started here the leftist billionaires would have zero issues funding a small army.
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people don't think conscript armies be like they is

plenty of countries have armed retards with zero experience and little training and beaten super powers. i.e. - russia, vietnam, etc.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:02:41 AM EDT
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1. Demoralization - this is a process which can take about 15-30 years to perform (a generation). During this stage, the moral fibre and integrity of the country is put into question, thereby creating doubt in the minds of the people. To do so, manipulation of the media and academia is required to influence young people. As the younger generation embraces new values, such as Marxism and Leninism, the older generation slowly loses control simply through attrition. Again, true facts no longer matter during this stage, but rather creating perceptions are of paramount importance.

2. Destabilization - the purpose of this step is to change the status quo, particularly the country's economy, foreign relations, and defense systems. The intent is to create a massive government permeating society and becoming intrusive in the lives of its citizens. This can take from two to five years to perform, again with the active support of academia pushing youth in this direction. Here, entitlements and benefits are promised to the populace to encourage their support. Basically, they are bribing the people to accept their programs.

Bezmenov claims after this stage is completed, the naive college professors are no longer needed and since they will undoubtedly protest government policies when they discover the truth, they will be disposed of quickly. He cites examples of this occurring in Nicaragua, Grenada, Afghanistan, and Bangladesh.

3. Crisis - this is a major step lasting up to six weeks and involves a revolutionary change of power. This is where a cataclysmic event upsets and divides the country thereby creating panic among the citizens. Recent examples include the 2011 upheavals in the Middle East, most notably Egypt and Libya. To Americans, symptoms would include circumventing the Constitution and altering the checks and balances of government, and possibly martial law.

4. Normalization - the final stage is where the populace finally acquiesces and begins to assimilate communism. This can take up to two decades to complete.

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Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:08:55 AM EDT
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So tim pool is no longer a faggot now?
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I don’t understand the hate for him.

If GD ever left the basement and met your average college student they’d equate Tim Pool with a RWDS general.

Edit: I guess you can say he’s ‘fake’ in the sense that he concern trolls the left. He wants to keep his viewer base while appearing level headed and non biased but I’m fairly certain he’d be rooting for dead socialists if it came down to it.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:15:12 AM EDT
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Never heard of him. Why is he wearing a hat indoors while giving a presentation? That makes him look like a douche.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:15:53 AM EDT
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No way! The fatties will steal all the good MRE’s and raid the Twinkie stores.

TC
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:15:56 AM EDT
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.
One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.  
It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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And, one side will have the support of all levels of government, the bulk of the military and law enforcement, as well as the news media and half the population.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:17:18 AM EDT
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I don’t understand the hate for him.

If GD ever left the basement and met your average college student they’d equate Tim Pool with a RWDS general.
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So tim pool is no longer a faggot now?
I don’t understand the hate for him.

If GD ever left the basement and met your average college student they’d equate Tim Pool with a RWDS general.
Same but I read it on the internet so it must be true.
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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Are there only 2 sides?

You sure who owns what?

How do you let 1/2 nation secede when they are your neighbor? Are you leaving?

Are all sides manipulated?
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:19:37 AM EDT
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You guys do understand the Left doesn’t need guns....they have the government on their side.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:21:03 AM EDT
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Yes. Wearing a hat immediately invalidates everything someone says.

Not liking some aspect of someone’s life immediately invalidates everything they say.

Who someone is fucking immediately invalidates everything they say.

Got it.

TC
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:22:29 AM EDT
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He has stated he is not voting in 2020.  He also did not vote in 2016.

He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process.

Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen.  Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies.

It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left.
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Just reminded a friend of bernie being shoved off the podium last election by black lives matter. IF he was to win, the fascists would push him around easily and Putin would have have his own seperate bedroom in the White House.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:56:21 AM EDT
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Yes. Wearing a hat immediately invalidates everything someone says.

Not liking some aspect of someone’s life immediately invalidates everything they say.

Who someone is fucking immediately invalidates everything they say.

Got it.

TC
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Never heard of him. Why is he wearing a hat indoors while giving a presentation? That makes him look like a douche.
Yes. Wearing a hat immediately invalidates everything someone says.

Not liking some aspect of someone’s life immediately invalidates everything they say.

Who someone is fucking immediately invalidates everything they say.

Got it.

TC
Meant to say it's hard to take him seriously. That's all. The guy might be right and the guy might be wrong. I seriously doubt we're headed towards a new civil war however. People are way too comfortable in their lives for that and there's too much to lose.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 10:58:30 AM EDT
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Are there only 2 sides?

You sure who owns what?

How do you let 1/2 nation secede when they are your neighbor? Are you leaving?

Are all sides manipulated?
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There are as many sides as there are GD posters. Like everyone else on Arfcom, I'm going to become a warlord in the boogaloo, keep a harem of womenz, trade pot and moonshine to my neighboring city states, and live a fruitful life to the ripe old age of 104.

Mediocre!!
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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So we'll end up with a handful of disconnected liberal city state islands surrounded by America.  I don't think so.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 11:09:06 AM EDT
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F15s with hellfires!
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 11:12:42 AM EDT
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There will be no "hot" civil war.

Leftists want radical change, the media and entertainment industry supports that. In blue states criminals and violent protestors are mostly free to run amok, government and law enforcement stand idly by, only involving themselves to pick off counter protestors who dare defend themselves.

Most of the rest of people just kind of want to stay off the radar and live their lives.
They will grumble and bitch but will write the bigger tax check, turn in their guns, get rid of that polluting car for an electric, accept govt healthcare, pay carbon taxes etc.

It is a small group in a small group that would be willing to risk it all. Way less then the 3% figure that is oft cited.

People are too comfortable and too under control.

Now if the economy spirals and many Americans find themselves driven out of their comfy spot, I think there might be more of a chance of it happening.

But I fear it would be coming the other way.
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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The left couldn't afford a peaceful "split".  IMO the right would draw down too much of their revenue base as they moved into "their" sector.  How you gonna take care of the leeches and provide free stuff?

I'm with those who suggest that real civil wars start at the top.  However, a serious insurgency could definitely boil over, and that could lead to a split at the top and real civil war under the right circumstances.
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Meant to say it's hard to take him seriously. That's all. The guy might be right and the guy might be wrong. I seriously doubt we're headed towards a new civil war however. People are way too comfortable in their lives for that and there's too much to lose.
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Most people just go through life trying to survive and aren't overly concerned with politics unless it directly affects them.

That hasn't stopped things from going south elsewhere; all it means is that they are not a necessary part of the equation.
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He has stated he is not voting in 2020.  He also did not vote in 2016.

He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process.

Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen.  Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies.

It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left.
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Pool is slowly coming around.
He will vote for Bernie
He has stated he is not voting in 2020.  He also did not vote in 2016.

He thinks Bernie is being written out of the DNC primary just like he was in 2016 and that Bernie is in a way a willing accomplice in the process.

Bernie will not stand up for himself and his supporters and Pool calls him out for basically allowing this to happen.  Pool also does not agree with Bernie’s policies.

It’s almost as if Bernie is controlled opposition to drive the Democrats further left.
Yup.  This is my read as well.  He was a Bern-out previously and was pissed about Clinton getting the nomination.

Pool now openly states he no longer supports Bernie.  He was leg-humping Tulsi for a while and now seems to have some level of apathy towards all of the D candidates save for Yang.  As a self-proclaimed centrist that leans slightly left, Pool’s noticeable change in message and demeanor over the last couple of years is interesting.  I see it as a good indicator that the Democrats’ race to the left isn’t going over well despite what the media would have us believe.
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Seems there are multiple factions itching for a boogaloo.

Bernie bros want to put conservatives in gulags and re-education camps per the veritas undercover videos.

They also want to burn cities to the ground if Bernie isn’t the democrat nominee.

Democrats want to revolt if orange man bad wins, because according to them he can only win by cheating.

Patriots want to take out all the gun grabbing politicians and return the country to rule of law and faithful observance of the Constitution.

Swamp dwellers/deep staters don’t want to lose their gravy train and power via their bureaucracy.

If anyone starts shooting, it is likely everyone will start shooting.  It will be a free for all.
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There will be no "hot" civil war.

Leftists want radical change, the media and entertainment industry supports that. In blue states criminals and violent protestors are mostly free to run amok, government and law enforcement stand idly by, only involving themselves to pick off counter protestors who dare defend themselves.

Most of the rest of people just kind of want to stay off the radar and live their lives.
They will grumble and bitch but will write the bigger tax check, turn in their guns, get rid of that polluting car for an electric, accept govt healthcare, pay carbon taxes etc.

It is a small group in a small group that would be willing to risk it all. Way less then the 3% figure that is oft cited.

People are too comfortable and too under control.

Now if the economy spirals and many Americans find themselves driven out of their comfy spot, I think there might be more of a chance of it happening.

But I fear it would be coming the other way.
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it will get hot.
Dem party is split old guard vs new more brown shirt type guard. When the old guard has died off the balance will shift.
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If we get to a civil war I'd be surprised.

One side owns guns.
The other side doesn't own guns.

It would just be better to let half of the country secede and form a new country.  Clean and most likely supported by the citizens.  The problem that you run into is that politicians and their check writers aren't going to want a clean break because then their whole lives they've been building will suddenly not be there anymore.
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Secede? Why not just emigrate to Western Europe? It already has the government they seek.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 11:47:34 AM EDT
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Journo-rabble rousers will be concerned
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lol, arfcom fatties wet dream to start shooting something
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This fatty has been shot at, and shot more times than I care to admit on the net.

I have no problem taking a bullet in the name of the 2A, but damn sure expect to get more than a few of them before they get me.

No one will remember me or my name, my family will suffer, and whatever life remains, if I survive, will be ruined.

I know this.  I don't fantasize about it.  I pray for the contrary.  But my free standing, non slinged, iron sights, 20in, XM green tipped accuracy is minute of clay pigon at 100meters,,, and I'll be God damned if when the shit hits the fan that I will sit my fat ass on the sidelines.

I'd rather be dead than become more of a sheep than I already am.

These leftists, liberals, and gun grabbers had best figure this shit out real fucking fast.

...font get me started on gehaddies, ms13, and whoever else outsiders that they can just roll up into this bitch....
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He will vote for Bernie
IIRC, a few episodes ago he said he was sitting this one out.  Could be wrong though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY6n6kDdpME

For a long time I was assuming this attitude about CW 2.0/boogaloo/whatever was masturbatory hyperbole on both sides, and just kind of laughed it off.  But when someone even as level headed as Tim Pool notices the boiling point rapidly approaching, I start to notice.

Watch it from the point of view a centrist would have.  Even he's starting to get worried.
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Guyunderarock.jpg

Bracken said we are but a single magdump from a flat out, shooting, civil war. Doesn't matter which side it comes from, or even if a false flag, the moment it happens, and it *WILL*, it is going to be the bloodiest chapter our country and the world has ever known.

With the United States out of the way because of internal conflict, the rest of the world's bad actors are greenlit to do and fuck over anyone and everyone.

The world will feel the repercussions of a U.S. civil war because it could easily kick off a third world war.
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The last time, with the Republican baseball game being attacked, it didn't turn into a free for all. That was very plainly politically motivated.

I'm uncertain at this point what it would actually take for a majority of people to shrug and start fighting.

With any luck at all, we won't find out.
Link Posted: 2/10/2020 11:57:02 AM EDT
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you guys still haven't realized Pool is a leftist that panders to right wing people as a "red pilled liberal" because it boosts his views and traffic on YT

its the same shtick and  grift you see from people like candace owens and that gay black "comedian" that charlie kirk parades on stage at his events last year
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