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Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:18:24 AM EDT
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If only whites would leave these urban areas then each and every one of these cities would crumble like Detroit.  However it ain't going to happen. These cities are populated by the worst types of people like Bloomburg/Feinstein/Schumer, control freaks who have money, wealth, power. They get off on having tight control and making money over the masses of average Joes in these cities.
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:19:42 AM EDT
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You pegged Louisville,  Ky.
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.

They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  

Fuck them.



You pegged Louisville,  Ky.


That's what Detroit was like but it still didn't work in the end.
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:22:23 AM EDT
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base.
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OK......I'm good with that!......the City-Folk are unarmed anyway!.......except for the gangs! LOL
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:22:41 AM EDT
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If only whites would leave these urban areas then each and every one of these cities would crumble like Detroit.  However it ain't going to happen. These cities are populated by the worst types of people like Bloomburg/Feinstein/Schumer, control freaks who have money, wealth, power. They get off on having tight control and making money over the masses of average Joes in these cities.
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If only whites would leave these urban areas then each and every one of these cities would crumble like Detroit.  However it ain't going to happen. These cities are populated by the worst types of people like Bloomburg/Feinstein/Schumer, control freaks who have money, wealth, power. They get off on having tight control and making money over the masses of average Joes in these cities.


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Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:35:25 AM EDT
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I grew up in Detroit and was a cop there for awhile (before I smartened up.).  Coleman Young was elected in 74 and it was a downhilll slide into socialism from there.

Look at Detroit today.  Unless we regain control of the country, you are also looking at the future of the US.

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Once beautiful homes.

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Except for the snow, that could easily be Birmingham Alabama.  And Montgomery is rapidly going that way.
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:38:45 AM EDT
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The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far.



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The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that

move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them?







That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say.



We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess.




The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far.



Civil war is the answer you're looking for.

 



Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.




You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.




They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.






Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:39:05 AM EDT
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Except for the snow, that could easily be Birmingham Alabama.  And Montgomery is rapidly going that way.
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I grew up in Detroit and was a cop there for awhile (before I smartened up.).  Coleman Young was elected in 74 and it was a downhilll slide into socialism from there.



Look at Detroit today.  Unless we regain control of the country, you are also looking at the future of the US.



http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/520505c269bedda51100002a/detroit-fight-shows-why-public-pensions-are-bound-for-problems.jpg

Once beautiful homes.



http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE5L2UxL2RldHJvaXQuOTY2OWYuanBnCnAJdGh1bWIJOTUweDUzNCMKZQlqcGc/1b353504/919/detroit.jpg

Entire neighborhoods of vacant homes demolished and pushed into their basements.



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The future of socialism in the US.




Except for the snow, that could easily be Birmingham Alabama.  And Montgomery is rapidly going that way.
For society to work, every member of society HAS to work.



 
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 6:44:00 AM EDT
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Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  

Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.

You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.

They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.


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The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that
move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them?



That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say.

We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess.


The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far.

Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  

Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.

You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.

They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.




How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 7:06:39 AM EDT
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For all the progressive complaining about "income inequality" in the United States and how Republicans want to destroy the middle class there are a lot of solidly blue counties with a high Gini index.

These Democrat strongholds are in many cases only for very rich or very poor people.



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The long term problem is what if there's no place to go if we conservatives keep running away from leftists that move in? This is a pattern I've noticed for a while is that when there's too many leftists that


move in and contribute largely to the problems that ruined their last town/city, why we conservatives have to move instead of reclaiming our towns and cities. Why do we have to leave in instead of them?











That is a VERY good point and I don't have an answer I am sorry to say.





We just have the money to move out and are lucky I guess.






The locusts will keep following us unless we can come up with a plan to either keep them out or to reclaim our towns and cities. If we can somehow relegate them to the cities that they ruined at least we can show the country what long term leftist leadership looks like if they allow them in their towns. We've got Detroit, Gary, IN and many others so far.





Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  





Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.





You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.





They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.






How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.

 






If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.







If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.

 
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The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.  

If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.

If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.
 
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]Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  

Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.

You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.

They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.




How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.  

If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.

If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.
 


Are you avoiding my question are did you not understand it?
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 7:25:19 AM EDT
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They elected RINOs instead.

Same difference.
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In New York, Democrats outnumber Republicans more than 6-to-1, yet voters hadn’t elected a Democrat since David Dinkins lost to Rudolph Giuliani in 1993.


They elected RINOs instead.

Same difference.



You are saying: David Dinkins(D) = Rudolph Guiliani (R)??
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 7:25:24 AM EDT
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]Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  

Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.

You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.

They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.




How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.  

If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.

If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.
 


Are you avoiding my question are did you not understand it?

Dude, relax.  After a quick two week romp shooting commies in ditches this place will be Mayberry times a thousand.
Link Posted: 11/30/2013 7:34:09 AM EDT
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I grew up in Detroit and was a cop there for awhile (before I smartened up.).  Coleman Young was elected in 74 and it was a downhilll slide into socialism from there.



Look at Detroit today.  Unless we regain control of the country, you are also looking at the future of the US.



http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/520505c269bedda51100002a/detroit-fight-shows-why-public-pensions-are-bound-for-problems.jpg

Once beautiful homes.



http://rack.1.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDEzLzA3LzE5L2UxL2RldHJvaXQuOTY2OWYuanBnCnAJdGh1bWIJOTUweDUzNCMKZQlqcGc/1b353504/919/detroit.jpg

Entire neighborhoods of vacant homes demolished and pushed into their basements.



http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/3/1/1362156542313/Detroit-going-bust--006.jpg

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Best thing they could do is tear down these dilapidated buildings and turn it back to fields



 
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Block the interstates into the cities, go watch Nascar, win hypothetical civil war.
 
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base.

Block the interstates into the cities, go watch Nascar, win hypothetical civil war.
 


More like cut the power lines and block the water pipelines and canals.

Having all of those one party voters living closely together makes it very easy for Democrats to Get Out The Vote.  

It also could make those cities look like target areas if push came to shove.
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Pretty much this IMHO.

We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats.

I refuse to live with them.  They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with.

My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out.  It's ok now where we live but I see it coming.

We are lucky we have the money to do so.
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What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county.
They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them.
Then the producers keep moving farther away.
News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore.
When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years.


Pretty much this IMHO.

We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats.

I refuse to live with them.  They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with.

My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out.  It's ok now where we live but I see it coming.

We are lucky we have the money to do so.

I have some very good friends in Monroe.  However democrats rely on you moving. That is how they took control of the cities in the first place. When the Democrats move in and you move out, that is called retreating/Democrat victory.

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I have some very good friends in Monroe.  However democrats rely on you moving. That is how they took control of the cities in the first place. When the Democrats move in and you move out, that is called retreating/Democrat victory.

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I admit that.

But sorry, I CANNOT live with democrats.  I just can't do it.
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I have some very good friends in Monroe.  However democrats rely on you moving. That is how they took control of the cities in the first place. When the Democrats move in and you move out, that is called retreating/Democrat victory.

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What's happened around me for the last 25 years, the liberals are moving into my county.
They've got to suck off the producers who have left big cities to the outlying suburbs. As that happens they bring their crime and stupidity with them.
Then the producers keep moving farther away.
News people used to refer to the suburbs as the "tri county" Detroit metro area. I've been hearing them lately say the "seven county" Detroit metro area in what I assume is a feeble attempt to keep Detroit relevant. I'm at least 47 miles away from Detroit and don't bother going down there anymore.
When I moved here to Livingston County there wasn't even a democrat HQ. Life was really nice, but the people that had been here years me before started moving farther away after I'd been here 10 years.


Pretty much this IMHO.

We are moving out further next spring into Monroe County (more rural area) to get farther away from the democrats.

I refuse to live with them.  They are a virus that I just DO NOT want to be living with.

My wife agrees and is VERY happy we are moving out.  It's ok now where we live but I see it coming.

We are lucky we have the money to do so.

I have some very good friends in Monroe.  However democrats rely on you moving. That is how they took control of the cities in the first place. When the Democrats move in and you move out, that is called retreating/Democrat victory.

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I agree with you, but I really hate democrats. They say hate is a strong wrong. However in this instance I think it's too soft.
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You pegged Louisville,  Ky.

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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.



They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  



Fuck them.






You pegged Louisville,  Ky.

And Cleveland, OH.

 
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.

They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  

Fuck them.



You pegged Louisville,  Ky.
And Cleveland, OH.  


It's everywhere.

On top of it, they fight to spend state-level money on pet projects for the cities, that only people in the cities will get any benefit from.  California is really bad at this.

When cities need to compete for workers and a tax base, these things might work themselves out.  Right now, they still try to find workarounds.
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Being a mid-western republican in a fly-over state in the corn belt,  I say we just stop selling our agricultural products to all municipalities. Let's see how long they'd last.
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Our form of representative government worked better when the country was rural and more spread out. With cities came large population. With large population came large infrastructure, parks, transit, etc. All that "stuff" costs money and creates bureaucracy.

People got used to the "stuff" and now think its the governments job to supply all the "stuff".
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]Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  



Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.



You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.



They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.









How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.  



If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.



If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.

 




Are you avoiding my question are did you not understand it?

There is no way of predicting the outcome of civil war. Do I personally believe this country will be better off after civil war and  we remove from power the people who threaten our great nation? Yes I do.

 



Killing people who don't vote the way you feel is right is wrong. Killing communist who want to destroy this country and wouldn't lose a night's sleep over killing you and your friends,family, and fellow countrymen is a preemptive act.
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Assholes like Nelson Wolf here in Bexar county also propose tolling existing highways to limit economic exodus from the liberal shithole of San Antonio.  Fuck that idiot with a red hot poker.

 
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.



They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  



Fuck them.


Assholes like Nelson Wolf here in Bexar county also propose tolling existing highways to limit economic exodus from the liberal shithole of San Antonio.  Fuck that idiot with a red hot poker.

 
Wouldn't that have an opposite effect?  I moved out of NYC the first chance I got to goto upstate NY just to get away from the highway tolls.



 
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Zombie Apocalypse, killer flu pandemic, (insert next killer disease here), populations crowded into cities are going to go down hard under such circumstances while those living in the more rural areas can ride out the storm if they have enough food stocked away to allow them to self-isolate/quarantine to avoid the transmission of the disease.  Been that way since people started becoming "civilized" and moving into towns and cities where they were in close enough quarters to allow rapid transmission of fatal diseases.
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Killing people who don't vote the way you feel is right is wrong. Killing communist who want to destroy this country and wouldn't lose a night's sleep over killing you and your friends,family, and fellow countrymen is a preemptive act.
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]Civil war is the answer you're looking for.  

Civil war is the only hope this country has. We must eliminate the communist threat and the only way is with a bullet.

You can't fight the FSA at the ballot box. There are to many of them and their leaders are corrupt. The corrupt the ballot box  as well.

They have promised them to much and have to many supporters lined up to steal from the producing class.




How does civil war improve this?  What is the end state?  Kill those who would vote "wrong?"  Establish a new government where suffrage is more limited?
The communist are the enemy. They are a treat to our way of life and our very existence. Over the passed 123 years through the force of government they have worked themselves into every aspect of our lives. It is a steady progression and they only way to stop it is war. This country doesn't have enough time to repair the damage that has been done. We have been slowly circling the drain for the passed 100 years and as we get closer to the end the faster we go.  

If you can't see what the Communist, Socialist, Marxist, and Progressives have done to this country and the fact that it is irreversible via the ballot box then you are blind.

If you can't see it now you just wait and see what affect immigration reform has on America an how fast the elections swing to the left.
 


Are you avoiding my question are did you not understand it?
There is no way of predicting the outcome of civil war. Do I personally believe this country will be better off after civil war and  we remove from power the people who threaten our great nation? Yes I do.  

Killing people who don't vote the way you feel is right is wrong. Killing communist who want to destroy this country and wouldn't lose a night's sleep over killing you and your friends,family, and fellow countrymen is a preemptive act.



So, avoiding it, then.

I am not asking you to predict the outcome.  I am asking what outcome you might hope for, that will be better achieved via war than current processes.  You are calling for blood in the streets, the least you could do is propose some sort of possible end state that makes the bloodshed worth it.

Otherwise, you just sound like you haven't thought this through.

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Wouldn't that have an opposite effect?  I moved out of NYC the first chance I got to goto upstate NY just to get away from the highway tolls.
 
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.

They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  

Fuck them.

Assholes like Nelson Wolf here in Bexar county also propose tolling existing highways to limit economic exodus from the liberal shithole of San Antonio.  Fuck that idiot with a red hot poker.
 
Wouldn't that have an opposite effect?  I moved out of NYC the first chance I got to goto upstate NY just to get away from the highway tolls.
 


That depends on where the work is.  Some of it is legitimate response to the "bedroom community" phenomenon, where people work and play in one city, and own property  and pay taxes in another.  Much of it, though, is just a desperate grab for money since they are unable to offer any incentive to stay.
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Any Civil War would be over before it started, all it would take is a bunch of kids with .22's and it would be over.

Step one of the revolution walk outside and shoot the transformer that has not been shot yet, all pole transformers, all sub station transformers.  By the time it was all fixed (and it would take a very long time) and the die-off ended we would be broken into multiple regional nations and it would be very hard to put it back together again.  

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More like cut the power lines and block the water pipelines and canals.

Having all of those one party voters living closely together makes it very easy for Democrats to Get Out The Vote.  

It also could make those cities look like target areas if push came to shove.
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Sort of a Civil War 2.0 scenario going on except with the north/south being replaced by city/non-city philosophical base.

Block the interstates into the cities, go watch Nascar, win hypothetical civil war.
 


More like cut the power lines and block the water pipelines and canals.

Having all of those one party voters living closely together makes it very easy for Democrats to Get Out The Vote.  

It also could make those cities look like target areas if push came to shove.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-fire_zone

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Any Civil War would be over before it started, all it would take is a bunch of kids with .22's and it would be over.

Step one of the revolution walk outside and shoot the transformer that has not been shot yet, all pole transformers, all sub station transformers.  By the time it was all fixed (and it would take a very long time) and the die-off ended we would be broken into multiple regional nations and it would be very hard to put it back together again.  

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FEMA campouts. Haliburton hurricane machine already proof tested the concept.
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That depends on where the work is.  Some of it is legitimate response to the "bedroom community" phenomenon, where people work and play in one city, and own property  and pay taxes in another.  Much of it, though, is just a desperate grab for money since they are unable to offer any incentive to stay.
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The socialists in the big cities try to expand their reach by preaching "Regionalism". They somehow think that if you live within a certain imaginary radius of their utopia that you somehow benefit from it and should share your tax money with them.



They also like to fight what they call "sprawl" by fighting to keep highway money from being spent elsewhere.  



Fuck them.


Assholes like Nelson Wolf here in Bexar county also propose tolling existing highways to limit economic exodus from the liberal shithole of San Antonio.  Fuck that idiot with a red hot poker.

 
Wouldn't that have an opposite effect?  I moved out of NYC the first chance I got to goto upstate NY just to get away from the highway tolls.

 




That depends on where the work is.  Some of it is legitimate response to the "bedroom community" phenomenon, where people work and play in one city, and own property  and pay taxes in another.  Much of it, though, is just a desperate grab for money since they are unable to offer any incentive to stay.
Here, it is education.  Inner city schools are failing, the ability to move where schools are better is great.  So people move out.  Only thing is, a full 25% of the motor vehicle fuel tax revenue goes to propping up these failing schools so roadway improvement around these big schools is lacking.  And in the development area.  So the communist politicians try to sour the education flight by making transportation even more expensive.



All because the inner city schools cannot be fixed by throwing more money at the problem.  So existing roadways are turned into tollways.



 
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