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Posted: 11/25/2016 4:22:52 AM EDT
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 5:03:27 AM EDT
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They most certainly are. Even with correct roll marks. I'll get more detailed pics at 2017 SHOT Show. Rumor has it, they will be north of $3K though: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg</a> I'm tempted to get the Troy, but I'm gonna' wait for the Colt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just wait for the colt line or build one. Colt retro line was announced a while back so they will be here eventually. Really? I have not heard that. I would be up for a factory Colt XM177. They most certainly are. Even with correct roll marks. I'll get more detailed pics at 2017 SHOT Show. Rumor has it, they will be north of $3K though: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg</a> I'm tempted to get the Troy, but I'm gonna' wait for the Colt. North of 3K for one of colts copies? meh..no thanks...I want a retro clone but don't want one that bad. What exactly is "off" on the Troy XM177 that does not make it correct ? |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 5:24:36 AM EDT
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What exactly is "off" on the Troy XM177 that does not make it correct ? It's made by Troy and everyone hates Troy |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 6:09:09 AM EDT
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Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Neither did anyone that works or worked with Troy. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 8:33:15 AM EDT
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Neither did anyone that works or worked with Troy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Neither did anyone that works or worked with Troy. He was the fucktard murderer's spotter. He's just as much at fault. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:05:18 AM EDT
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Nothing worse then our own countrymen commiting treason against us. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:29:06 AM EDT
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Engraving done by ident markings
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:30:46 AM EDT
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whats the story here? 80% lower? Did you supply the engraver with a template? |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:34:56 AM EDT
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They most certainly are. Even with correct roll marks. I'll get more detailed pics at 2017 SHOT Show. Rumor has it, they will be north of $3K though: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg</a> I'm tempted to get the Troy, but I'm gonna' wait for the Colt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just wait for the colt line or build one. Colt retro line was announced a while back so they will be here eventually. Really? I have not heard that. I would be up for a factory Colt XM177. They most certainly are. Even with correct roll marks. I'll get more detailed pics at 2017 SHOT Show. Rumor has it, they will be north of $3K though: <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/0521161453b2_zpsu8cm4yuq.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210229_zpsgaqpzqxu.jpg</a> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/user/IronBalaclava/media/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v454/IronBalaclava/P5210228_zpsu6jvsvfo.jpg</a> I'm tempted to get the Troy, but I'm gonna' wait for the Colt. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 10:06:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Who was selling guns to be used against American soldiers instead of the wife of a white supremacist who thought he sold a gun to a terrorist? |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 10:36:30 AM EDT
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whats the story here? 80% lower? Did you supply the engraver with a template? Quote HistoryQuoted:
whats the story here? 80% lower? Did you supply the engraver with a template? Not a 80%. Standard troy xm177e2. I just asked them not to engrave it there. Then sent it to ident markings. They had the template. 
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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:42:38 AM EDT
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They most certainly are. Even with correct roll marks. I'll get more detailed pics at 2017 SHOT Show. Rumor has it, they will be north of $3K though: First I was  but then I was 
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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:53:51 AM EDT
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What exactly is "off" on the Troy XM177 that does not make it correct ? 1) They're cutting down A2 lowers to A1 specs instead of buying A1 forgings. They're not doing the greatest job ever at it. 2) The moderator flash hider cuts dont look quite right 3) Its not anodized, they grey is something spray on (duracoat, norrels?) 4) FSB should have forge flashing on the rear ground smooth 5) A2 port door 6) Modern type buffer tube lock ring (Im not counting the barrel length since they wouldnt sell if it was an SBR only item, and Im also not counting the fact the stock isnt vinyl coated.) Thats what I can tell from pictures, not having ever examined one. Overall though, for someone who wants a retro carbine without spending a ton of money I think theyre a pretty good clone at a good price. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 11:58:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone recommend a sling that's similar to this with the para cord mounts? Check the EE. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_25/1477907_RETRO_Field_expedient_slings_11_16_16__plenty_left.html |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 3:17:06 PM EDT
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He was the fucktard murderer's spotter. He's just as much at fault. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Neither did anyone that works or worked with Troy. He was the fucktard murderer's spotter. He's just as much at fault. Not what he said but OK |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 3:17:06 PM EDT
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Would you be mad if they shot the wife of a jihadistWho was selling guns to be used against American soldiers instead of the wife of a white supremacist who thought he sold a gun to a terrorist Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Shoe on the other foot they wouldn't care.
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:10:04 PM EDT
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:14:52 PM EDT
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Really? I have not heard that. I would be up for a factory Colt XM177. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just wait for the colt line or build one. Colt retro line was announced a while back so they will be here eventually. Really? I have not heard that. I would be up for a factory Colt XM177. I may actually game for that. Even as a lefty. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:17:21 PM EDT
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:21:03 PM EDT
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well he sold it to an ATF agent so not far off there.... |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:31:37 PM EDT
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I like it but not $1200 worth of like it.
I give a fuck about "Herp derp ermahgerd Troy!!!" derp. GD loves to have a sore pussy about whatever it can. |
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:43:05 PM EDT
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I accept that I am going to ARFCOM GD hell because I buy Troy. Then again internet hypocrisy has the same power as a Ouji board.
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Posted: 11/25/2016 9:57:39 PM EDT
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I accept that I am going to ARFCOM GD hell because I buy Troy. Then again internet hypocrisy has the same power as a Ouji board. "ARFCOM GD hell" - is that where people use correct spelling and think for themselves? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 1:19:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryEven got a fake 3rd pin engraved. Looks pretty good. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:06:48 AM EDT
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LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:21:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:30:44 AM EDT
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They hired Lon Horuichi as a spokesman. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? The guy most famous for missing everyone he was trying/supposed to hit throughout the event? A precision rifle company wanted that guy for spokesman? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:35:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The guy most famous for missing everyone he was trying/supposed to hit throughout the event? A precision rifle company wanted that guy for spokesman? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? The guy most famous for missing everyone he was trying/supposed to hit throughout the event? A precision rifle company wanted that guy for spokesman? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:39:51 AM EDT
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The guy most famous for missing everyone he was trying/supposed to hit throughout the event? A precision rifle company wanted that guy for spokesman? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? The guy most famous for missing everyone he was trying/supposed to hit throughout the event? A precision rifle company wanted that guy for spokesman? That's just brilliant 
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:45:25 AM EDT
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Aimless me old mate,
Any chance of a sticky of all the people/organisations we're supposed to hate? I just can't keep up anymore 
Troy Fidel Iran HS Precision Spikes Lon Horiuchi His boss Geissele. or Larue (depending which camp you're in) The George Bushes Any Democrat politician (and their relatives) The Nork guy And so on....... |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:48:12 AM EDT
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Fidel's dead
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:52:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's at my office. I actually bought a second copy last time this came up, wait until they find two copies when they raid my house Weaver never should have had a warrant put out for him and I'll take weaver's word over an informant, but he's not a good guy even if he is a victim Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have his autobiography he admits the guy he sold the shotgun to told him he was going to attack military armories ;) Can you scan the page and post it? Not calling you out on that item, i've just never seen that. Weaver never should have had a warrant put out for him and I'll take weaver's word over an informant, but he's not a good guy even if he is a victim |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 5:57:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep yep, their hypocrisy is something to behold at times. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Yep yep, their hypocrisy is something to behold at times. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:11:10 AM EDT
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Fidel's dead Doesn't mean we have to stop hating him |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:16:28 AM EDT
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1) They're cutting down A2 lowers to A1 specs instead of buying A1 forgings. They're not doing the greatest job ever at it. 2) The moderator flash hider cuts dont look quite right 3) Its not anodized, they grey is something spray on (duracoat, norrels?) 4) FSB should have forge flashing on the rear ground smooth 5) A2 port door 6) Modern type buffer tube lock ring (Im not counting the barrel length since they wouldnt sell if it was an SBR only item, and Im also not counting the fact the stock isnt vinyl coated.) Thats what I can tell from pictures, not having ever examined one. Overall though, for someone who wants a retro carbine without spending a ton of money I think theyre a pretty good clone at a good price. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What exactly is "off" on the Troy XM177 that does not make it correct ? 1) They're cutting down A2 lowers to A1 specs instead of buying A1 forgings. They're not doing the greatest job ever at it. 2) The moderator flash hider cuts dont look quite right 3) Its not anodized, they grey is something spray on (duracoat, norrels?) 4) FSB should have forge flashing on the rear ground smooth 5) A2 port door 6) Modern type buffer tube lock ring (Im not counting the barrel length since they wouldnt sell if it was an SBR only item, and Im also not counting the fact the stock isnt vinyl coated.) Thats what I can tell from pictures, not having ever examined one. Overall though, for someone who wants a retro carbine without spending a ton of money I think theyre a pretty good clone at a good price. That's all I needed to hear. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:18:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Boo hoo! Still complaining about ruger and smith and Wesson too? Armalite? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No, thanks. In before the staff shills? Looks like I'm not. Still complaining about ruger and smith and Wesson too? Armalite? |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 6:24:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shoe on the other foot they wouldn't care. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world Neither China nor Russia killed Vicki Weaver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Shoe on the other foot they wouldn't care. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 7:14:36 AM EDT
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Fidel's dead Yes I know |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 7:47:48 AM EDT
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The Colt repro would be awesome! But not 3K awesome.
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Posted: 11/26/2016 7:59:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well then...obviously his wife and son were bad as well Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I have his autobiography he admits the guy he sold the shotgun to told him he was going to attack military armories ;) Can you scan the page and post it? Not calling you out on that item, i've just never seen that. Weaver never should have had a warrant put out for him and I'll take weaver's word over an informant, but he's not a good guy even if he is a victim |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 8:08:35 AM EDT
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Can anyone recommend a sling that's similar to this with the para cord mounts? New, used and nylon versions; cut the hooks off. ETA- Too bad Kurt from Kurt's Kustom Firearms passed away, he made a nice looking repro of the moderator. I've got one he made for my 9mm AR to bring it up to 16". No pics, I'm out of the country. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 8:50:32 AM EDT
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It's immaterial. If the board was willing to drop a paying sponsor because there was a noisy and butthurt minority, it shows the rest of the sponsors that their ad revenue is less valuable than the noisy and butthurt minority. Imagine if GD decided that PSAs slow ship times was worth a yee-haw'd, or if they wanted to pick a side in the LaRue vs Giselle trigger war. What if the nerds on this board decided that the fact that ArfCom hasn't moved their servers from a company in NYC to a Texas company is anti-freedom and got loud? Should Arf abandon their current hosting provider? Lofty ideals don't pay the bills. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's funny because the owners of the largest gunboard on the Internet apparently disagree with you. I'mma go with their assessment. I read in another one of these threads that Steve(?) Troy and Goatboy are friends IRL. It's immaterial. If the board was willing to drop a paying sponsor because there was a noisy and butthurt minority, it shows the rest of the sponsors that their ad revenue is less valuable than the noisy and butthurt minority. Imagine if GD decided that PSAs slow ship times was worth a yee-haw'd, or if they wanted to pick a side in the LaRue vs Giselle trigger war. What if the nerds on this board decided that the fact that ArfCom hasn't moved their servers from a company in NYC to a Texas company is anti-freedom and got loud? Should Arf abandon their current hosting provider? Lofty ideals don't pay the bills. Wait until liberals find out all they have to do to remove all negative speech against them here is to donate. Gotta pay those bills right? It's all about the money! |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 9:01:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I already have a few that I built. http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn38/rccox/Guns/0949e1cc857d1d16a733920e70bdac30.jpg |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 9:14:46 AM EDT
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I find it funny that you all boycott Troy but can't wait for Norinco's and Russian guns. Strange world And it's OK for ours to do it to us? I really don't care if commies kill themselves. I can tolerate that. I cannot tolerate American government officials doing it to Americans. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 9:28:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/26/2016 9:33:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait until liberals find out all they have to do to remove all negative speech against them here is to donate. Gotta pay those bills right? It's all about the money! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's funny because the owners of the largest gunboard on the Internet apparently disagree with you. I'mma go with their assessment. I read in another one of these threads that Steve(?) Troy and Goatboy are friends IRL. It's immaterial. If the board was willing to drop a paying sponsor because there was a noisy and butthurt minority, it shows the rest of the sponsors that their ad revenue is less valuable than the noisy and butthurt minority. Imagine if GD decided that PSAs slow ship times was worth a yee-haw'd, or if they wanted to pick a side in the LaRue vs Giselle trigger war. What if the nerds on this board decided that the fact that ArfCom hasn't moved their servers from a company in NYC to a Texas company is anti-freedom and got loud? Should Arf abandon their current hosting provider? Lofty ideals don't pay the bills. Wait until liberals find out all they have to do to remove all negative speech against them here is to donate. Gotta pay those bills right? It's all about the money! You can disagree with Juan over Troy but accusing him of doing it over greed is bullshit. Course you'll post the same lies next time this comes up |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 10:24:21 AM EDT
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I hardly read this thread but I'll bet its a train wreck LOL I skept straight to page five after hearing about colt retro products Fuck Troy and HS Precision. I didn't realise that we are now supposed to all hate HS Precision too. What is their crime against humanity then? IIRC, they actually just printed a letter from him on the back of their catalog from when he was project manager for the FBI sniper rifle program. I was under the impression that he was working for the FBI at the time and not HS Precision. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 10:40:23 AM EDT
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Yeah I could be wrong about the specifics
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Posted: 11/26/2016 10:45:41 AM EDT
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Yeah I could be wrong about the specifics I could be too. I don't think that they ever made a statement on it or clarified anything. At best, it was in very bad taste. |
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Posted: 11/26/2016 10:45:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryWeren't XM177E2's marked as "Colt Commando"? |
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