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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:56:07 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't matter, you're not voting for him anyway. You can write in deSantis if it makes you feel better. You really think people are excited (outside of the Trump circle) about having to choose between two 80 year old morons who have no concept or concern about the constitution? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:57:17 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has Trump really ever said anything about monetary policy other than to say the democrats suck? No talk of upping rates and cutting the printing of money? Lol he wanted negative interest rates when he was in office |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:57:59 PM EDT
[#3]
Trump will bring back artificially low interest rates and housing pricing will go into orbit.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:58:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Has Trump really ever said anything about monetary policy other than to say the democrats suck? No talk of upping rates and cutting the printing of money? “In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat. It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans.” |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 5:59:34 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread is about Trump, not your boy Biden. Pay attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The delusions of an early onset dementia patient circling the drain. This thread is about Trump, not your boy Biden. Pay attention.  nailed it
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:02:10 PM EDT
[#6]
It’s to late.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:02:36 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Funny hearing him talk about inflation when he’s the one who started it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Whats he gonna do print 6 trillion dollars out of thin air again? Best economy ever! Lol. Funny hearing him talk about inflation when he’s the one who started it. And Joey B's Inflation Reduction Act took care of it, right? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:02:54 PM EDT
[#8]
I really need to get started on my place in the country. Being debt free is my main goal.
Then being somewhat self sustaining. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:05:23 PM EDT
[#9]
And did he spend big? Yes. He also brought in orders of magnitude additional revenue to counteract that spend. None of you never Trumpers wanna admit to that.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:05:42 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump will bring back artificially low interest rates and housing pricing will go into orbit. If it makes stonks line go up, he'll do it. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:06:24 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And did he spend big? Yes. He also brought in orders of magnitude additional revenue to counteract that spend. None of you never Trumpers wanna admit to that. Quite literally, he added more debt to the books in 4 years than any other president in history. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:06:50 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He thinks the market is up because he's up in some polls about an election a year from now? It's marketing, of course. Tie whatever cause to whatever effect. Like the Maine fisherman says, "You can't get there from here." |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:07:46 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trust me, a choice between two octogenarian idiots doesn't please me in the slightest. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It doesn't matter, you're not voting for him anyway. You can write in deSantis if it makes you feel better. Trust me, a choice between two octogenarian idiots doesn't please me in the slightest. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:07:55 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's marketing, of course. Tie whatever cause to whatever effect. Like the Maine fisherman says, "You can't get there from here." I know... its just kinda sad to see people fall for it so hard. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:08:36 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. Funny hearing him talk about inflation when he’s the one who started it.   Attached File |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:09:35 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quite literally, he added more debt to the books in 4 years than any other president in history. Now do revenue. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:09:51 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So your an ageist. I'm confident Biden can't pass a comptencey test, Trump can. You bet I am. Too old to fly a commercial airliner, too old to hold public office. And while I would have agreed with you 6 months ago, Trump is going downhill rapidly. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:10:27 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Now do revenue. Irrelevant, when you also sign record spending bills. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:11:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Irrelevant, when you also sign record spending bills. Basic economics says otherwise |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:12:17 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You bet I am. Too old to fly a commercial airliner, too old to hold public office. And while I would have agreed with you 6 months ago, Trump is going downhill rapidly. Combination of stress and age. The true believers simply do not want to see it, tho. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:13:21 PM EDT
[#21]
He’s delusional. He’s probably thinking that locking down the country/world and printing trillions like he did in his first term should become the playbook.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:13:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:18:56 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basic economics says otherwise No, it doesn’t. He signed into law more debt than any president in 4 years in history. A - B = C Revenue - spending = deficit/surplus And “C” was a record negative number under Trump. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:18:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Basic economics says otherwise A deficit is the amount of money you spent that you didn't actually have after all revenues are counted. You can have record revenues... but if you still have a big deficit even after those record revenues, it just means you turned your "spend like a drunken sailor" dial all the way to 11 and then broke it off. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:19:58 PM EDT
[#25]
Much (most?) of the "stock market" is so de-coupled from reality that globalist commie assholes
can move it up or down for political purposes, with little or no real-world reporucussions. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:20:13 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has been the best president in recent times. You N_T's enjoying FJB? You guys like the wide open border? Bidenflation? TDS on full display. Trump lost to the potato all on his own. Blame him not the people who he could not earn the support from. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:20:21 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's not really wrong. Yes he is. The economy was good because he printed trillions. Now we are suffering from his actions |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:20:29 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: His pandemic response is a big reason for the current situation. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:20:50 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it doesn’t. He signed into law more debt than any president in 4 years in history. A - B = C Revenue - spending = deficit/surplus And “C” was a record negative number under Trump. Agree to disagree. Had his energy policy remained intact it would have easily covered the spend. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:22:21 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A deficit is the amount of money you spent that you didn't actually have after all revenues are counted. You can have record revenues... but if you still have a big deficit even after those record revenues, it just means you turned your "spend like a drunken sailor" dial all the way to 11 and then broke it off. And again, had his energy policy remained revenue would have surpassed spend |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:23:11 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agree to disagree. Had his energy policy remained intact it would have easily covered the spend. Disagree all you want. But you are disagreeing with a simple concept that is not in dispute. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: His pandemic response is a big reason for the current situation. What would you have done? Honestly,I'm waiting. He got swept up in the "experts" but you really can't identify the snake until you see it. Easy to Monday morning quarterback. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:24:26 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Disagree all you want. But you are disagreeing with a simple concept that is not in dispute. That revenue counteracts spend? I’m not disagreeing at all. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:24:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And again, had his energy policy remained revenue would have surpassed spend And if he'd had wheels he'd have been a wagon. What does arguing about the price of tea in chy-na have to do with a massive deficit? Yeah, if other parts of his policy had remained, it might have ameliorated all of the other reckless spending he signed off on. Of course, so would not signing off on all of the reckless spending. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:25:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The delusions of an early onset dementia patient circling the drain.  Look what trolled in!
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:26:45 PM EDT
[#36]
This!
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:27:02 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And if he'd had wheels he'd have been a wagon. What does arguing about the price of tea in chy-na have to do with a massive deficit? Yeah, if other parts of his policy had remained, it might have ameliorated all of the other reckless spending he signed off on. Of course, so would not signing off on all of the reckless spending. So your solution is only addressing one side of the ledger. Noted. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:27:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What would you have done? Honestly,I'm waiting. He got swept up in the "experts" but you really can't identify the snake until you see it. Easy to Monday morning quarterback. He got swept up by all the experts because he didn't know anything to begin with. That's whats wrong with electing people who don't know anything. Sure, the President doesn't have to be an expert. But bragging about stimulus checks tells me he wasn't even a novice. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:27:59 PM EDT
[#39]
Who thinks he's going to win?
The few people that voted for Biden in 2020 are going to vote for him again. But what has been done to convince everyone else that voted AGAINST Trump in 2020 to change their mind this time around and vote for him (or at least stay home)? Because all we've had is 3 more years of accusations, indictments, trials and continued all-out media blitz against Trump along with anyone/everyone on his "team" (several of whom Trump left out to dry). Anyone who hasn't been actively seeking any sort of exonerating or vindicating information/evidence about Trump or Jan 6th... isn't going to find it or have it presented to them. And those people who voted against Trump aren't running around looking for excuses or evidence to change their own minds. So I ask with complete sincerity, In the past 3+ years, what has changed to make anyone think Trump vs. Biden rematch comes out any different? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:29:09 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So your solution is only addressing one side of the leger. Noted. My solution is rooted in the reality of what power the President actually has. He has a veto which gives him (some) power to negotiate with congress for less spending. This is the President that wrote a book about about negotiating, right? |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:30:08 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So your solution is only addressing one side of the leger. Noted. Our government has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Deficit spending is a symptom of the former, and will never be rectified by the latter. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:31:10 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our government has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Deficit spending is a symptom of the former, and will never be rectified by the latter. Bingo. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:31:19 PM EDT
[#43]
Saving money big time waiting for the crash
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:32:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Our government has a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Deficit spending is a symptom of the former, and will never be rectified by the latter. But the later sure helps. 
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:33:38 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What would you have done? Honestly,I'm waiting. He got swept up in the "experts" but you really can't identify the snake until you see it. Easy to Monday morning quarterback. He was elected because he was SUPPOSED TO BE the best at picking and managing people. If that was the case, at some point he should have woken up and said "hey, wait a minute" and figured out a new plan. Instead, when others figured it out and moved a different direction, he attacked them publicly, and still openly states that he doesn't think he did anything wrong |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:34:02 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But the later sure helps. No, it literally doesn't. Without fixing the spending problem, whatever new revenue the government raises it will always find a way to spend and then some. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:35:13 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Saving money big time waiting for the crash daddy needs a big spread in montucky and a bunch of cheap rentals to pretire on.
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:37:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You bet I am. Too old to fly a commercial airliner, too old to hold public office. And while I would have agreed with you 6 months ago, Trump is going downhill rapidly. Do you know Trump personally, and interact with him daily ? Otherwise, you just basing that opinion on what the media is showing you (which is 99% against Trump). |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:42:41 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No, it literally doesn't. Without fixing the spending problem, whatever new revenue the government raises it will always find a way to spend and then some. Nah more revenue is always good. I won’t disagree that the .gov will attempt to spend it though. |
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Posted: 12/30/2023 6:44:16 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: But the later sure helps. Does it matter if your household had a record income year, if you keep spending more than you made, and racking up credit card debt? |
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