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To “fix” this trial would require a lot of folks to act together.

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Leftist media and deep state actors have been setting up TDS for years. Years of propaganda.

Ironic how they try to make a big deal of Russian election influence. The biggest influence is by our own lying government. FBI actually lying to get FISA warrants to spy on Trump, and engaging in info campaign after info campaign. Even the indictments of Russian entities was used by the Mueller investigation as a info campaign to reinforce the Russia collusion narrative.

The amount of propaganda is massive and everyone with TDS has been infected with it. Those infected can't think clearly, don't know which way is up.

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Imagine a world where's it's defamation/slander to call your accuser a liar or "crazy" - which that bitch obviously is.

As though it's believable that a man who, at the time, was fucking the most beautiful women in the world, would give her even a second glance.

It's absurd on its face.

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Defaming her for making fake rape claims?

She defamed him.

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Remember, Trump believed that these people were far more deserving of a pardon/clemency than his most faithful from January 6th. Scammers, spies, thieves, drug dealers, etc.... but not the people who were at the Capitol on his behalf.

Charles Kushner
Jared Kushner’s father, Charles Kushner, a real estate investor, pleaded guilty in 2004 to a raft of crimes that included 18 counts of making false statements the Federal Election Commission, tax evasion and witness tampering. He arranged an assignation with a prostitute for his sister’s husband, recorded the encounter and sent the tape to his sister, who he believed was cooperating with investigators. He was prosecuted by then-U.S. Attorney Chris Christie, who after abandoning his own presidential campaign in 2016 became a Trump supporter and surrogate. Kushner served 18 months behind bars.

Aviem Sella
President Trump granted a full pardon to Aviem Sella. Mr. Sella is an Israeli citizen who was indicted in 1986 for espionage in relation to the Jonathan Pollard case. Mr. Sella’s request for clemency is supported by the Prime Minister of Israel Benjamin Netanyahu, Israeli Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, the United States Ambassador to Israel David Friedman, and Miriam Adelson. The State of Israel has issued a full and unequivocal apology, and has requested the pardon in order to close this unfortunate chapter in U.S.-Israel relations

Mark Siljander
Siljander was sentenced to a year in jail after pleading guilty to obstruction of justice and working as a foreign agent for an Islamic charity that was seeking to be removed from a list of organizations that supported terrorism.

Michael Milken
A financier who pioneered the issuance of junk bonds, Milken was convicted in 1990 of securities fraud, mail fraud, tax fraud, filing false SEC reports and conspiracy. He received a prison sentence of two years and was fined $200 million. Rudy Giuliani and Sheldon Adelson reportedly asked Trump to pardon Milken.

Conrad Black
A billionaire media mogul and Trump’s biographer and friend, Black was sentenced to 42 months in prison after being convicted of mail fraud and obstruction of justice in 2007.

Bernard Kerik
Former New York City Police Commissioner Kerik, a protégé of Rudy Giuliani, pleaded guilty to tax fraud and other charges in 2010 and was sentenced to four years behind bars.

Rod Blagojevich
The former governor of Illinois, a Democrat, was convicted in 2009 and sentenced to 14 years in prison for attempting to solicit bribes in exchange for filling the vacant U.S. Senate seat left by then-President Barack Obama. Trump commuted his sentence in February, saying he “seemed like a very nice person” during an appearance on Trump’s reality TV show “The Apprentice.”

Alice Marie Johnson
In 1997, Johnson, a single mother, was given a mandatory life sentence for her participation in a cocaine-trafficking ring. Her appeals for clemency were taken up by the ACLU and other civil liberties organizations who viewed her as an example of the disproportionate effect of the war on drugs on Black defendants. After an appeal to Trump by Kim Kardashian, her sentence was commuted in 2018 and she was freed from prison.

Angela Stanton
A motivational speaker, Stanton was convicted in 2007 and served six months in home confinement for her role in a stolen-car ring. Prior to her pardon she praised Trump in a series of interviews.

Paul Pogue
Pogue, a Texas business owner, was pardoned for a 2010 conviction for filing false income tax statements. (The White House statement said he underpaid his taxes by “approximately 10 percent;” the amount was almost $500,000.) Pogue’s family donated some $200,000 to Trump’s reelection campaign.

Ariel Friedler
The former CEO of Symplicity pleaded guilty in 2014 to conspiracy to hack into computer systems of two of his competitors and was sentenced to two months in prison. Chris Christie asked Trump to pardon Friedler.

Michael Todesco
Convicted in 1990 of drug trafficking and fraud, Todesco was originally pardoned by former President Barack Obama in 2017, but Trump’s order fixed a clerical error in the initial pardon.

Roy McKeever
Arrested in 1989 and charged at the age of 19 with transporting marijuana from Mexico to Oklahoma, McKeever served a year in prison.

Chalmer Williams
Convicted in the Eastern District of Kentucky of conspiracy to steal firearms and theft of firearms shipped in interstate commerce, Williams received a four-month prison term in 1995.

Jon Ponder
In 2005, Ponder pleaded guilty to bank robbery and was sentenced to more than 20 years in prison. While incarcerated, he founded Hope for Prisoners, a reentry program.

Crystal Munoz
After being brought to Trump’s attention by Kim Kardashian, Munoz was granted clemency by the president for marijuana charges. She had spent more than 12 years behind bars in a federal prison in Fort Worth, Texas.

Tynice Nichole Hall
Convicted on federal drug charges in 2006, Hall served the next 14 years in prison. Trump granted her clemency in February.

Judith Negron
Convicted in 2011 for charges including conspiracy, fraud, paying kickbacks and money laundering in a $200 million scheme to bilk Medicare, Negron was sentenced to 35 years in prison. Trump commuted that sentence in February.

Joseph Stephens
Stephens served 18 months in prison after pleading guilty in 2008 of felony possession of a firearm. That charge came after a second felony offense in 1991.

Weldon Angelos
Convicted in 2004 of selling marijuana and carrying a handgun while dealing, Angelos was sentenced to a mandatory minimum of 55 years behind bars. After serving 13 years of that sentence, he became involved in criminal justice reform efforts, eventually participating in a Prison Reform Summit at the White House in 2018, the White House said in a statement.

Alfonso Costa
Convicted of fraudulently billing insurance companies for dental work he never did, Costa pleaded guilty to health care fraud spanning 1996 to 2001. HUD secretary Ben Carson had lobbied Trump for Costa’s pardon. “Al Costa is my best friend,” Carson told WPIX news.

Philip Esformes
Once known as the king of Medicare fraud, Esformes was sentenced in 2019 to 20 years in prison after being charged three years earlier for his role in a $1.3 billion scheme to defraud Medicare and Medicaid for services never rendered. The New York Times reported that clemency for Esformes was promoted by the Aleph Institute, a criminal-justice organization founded by the Lubavitcher sect of ultra-Orthodox Jews, with connections to Jared Kushner and legal scholar Alan Dershowitz, a high-profile Trump defender. “While in prison, Mr. Esformes, who is 52, has been devoted to prayer and repentance and is in declining health,” the White House said in a statement about the commutation of his sentence after less than two years.

Otis Gordon
In 1993, Gordon was sentenced to just over 7 years in prison after being convicted of selling, distributing and dispensing cocaine.

Theodore Suhl
Convicted in 2016 of Medicaid fraud and bribery charges, Suhl was sentenced to seven years in prison. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee approached Trump about pardoning him.

Robert Coughlin
Coughlin, a mid-level Justice Department official, pleaded guilty in 2008 to accepting bribes in exchange for doing favors for a politically connected law firm. He was sentenced to 30 days in a halfway house and “wishes to put his mistakes behind him,” according to the White House statement

Sholom Rubashkin
After being convicted for bank fraud, wire fraud and mail fraud, Rubashkin, the former CEO of a kosher slaughterhouse and meat packing plant, was sentenced in 2010 to 27 years in prison and ordered to pay $26.9 million in restitution. Seven years later, Trump commuted his sentence.

Ronen Nahmani
Sentenced to 20 years in prison for his role in a conspiracy to distribute synthetic drugs purchased from suppliers in China, Israeli-born Nahami was aided in his plea for clemency by U.S. lawyer and Trump confidant Alan Dershowitz. When Trump’s pardon came, Nahami had served four years of his sentence

Rashella Reed
Convicted in 2013 for her role in a scheme to launder $8 million from the federal food stamp program. Reed had served seven of her 14-year sentence when Trump commuted her sentence in October.

Curtis McDonald
In 1996, McDonald was convicted on drug trafficking and money laundering charges and sentenced to life in prison. The White House said in a statement describing Trump’s decision to grant McDonald clemency that he “made productive use of his time” while in prison.

Daniela Gozes-Wagner
Convicted in 2019 of money laundering and conspiring to commit $50 million in health care fraud, Gozers-Wagner was sentenced to serve 240 months in prison and ordered to pay $15.2 million in restitution. The White House described that penalty as too high in explaining Trump’s decision to wipe it clean.

Irving Stitsky
Sentenced to serve an 85-year jail term after being convicted of defrauding more than 250 people in a real estate scam worth $23 million, Stitsky was called “an inveterate con man” by the judge in his case. “Mr. Stitsky has reflected on the victims of his crime and the remorse that he now has,” the White House said in a statement explaining Trump’s pardon.

Mark Shapiro
The founder of the Cobalt Companies, Shapiro was sentenced to 85 years in jail in a $23 million real estate fraud scheme along with two other men. In a statement explaining why Trump had pardoned Shapiro, the White House said he had “renewed his faith in Judaism and taught fellow inmates the dangers of dishonesty.”

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That was not something I said nor was it even implied.

I DO know that you don’t own any guns though.

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There is another lady in the picture. Stop the lies.

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There is another lady in the picture. Stop the lies.

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Wrong

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Sure it was.

And lol

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You’re dodging again. Answer the question.

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That's more accurate than saying he mistook Carroll for his wife.

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That is the answer and anybody with no ax to grind can see it clearly.

She was making unsubstantiated rape claims about a sitting POTUS. Hell, she couldn't even be specific on the date and they had to change the fucking law to even allow her to bring this ancient load of horseshit to court.


If that cunt was defamed, what exactly were her damages?

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The point is that he was in no way equating Carroll to one of his wives.

If you want to make the rape accusation stick, you will need a more suspicious picture. Maybe try one without a crowd of people and without his wife standing right there.

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What she said or didn’t say is irrelevant in this case. She’s not on trial here.  Is there evidence that trump was involved in defamation? Yes or no?  That’s the trial we’re talking about.

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You actually believe those women?

I think the jury thought they were going to stop Trump from running for office and it didn't matter whether he showed or not. That courtroom was going to be like a Trump roast on comedy central.  They even rejected the rape accusation themselves in the verdict because it is so obviously absurd and didnt want the consequences of that hanging over them.

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Defamation of a woman made famous defaming a president with a rape accusation?

Is that the trial we're talking about?

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He should sue her but not in NYC.

She accused him of rape. She defamed him. If she can't prove her rape accusation then she shouldn't be allowed in a courtroom to sue the guy she accused for defamation.

This falls on the judge.

The jury reached a unanimous decision on May 9, after deliberating for less than three hours.[120] Considering the preponderance of the evidence, the jury delivered a verdict that first stated that Carroll had not proven that Trump raped her, and next stated that Carroll did prove that Trump had sexually abused her, and also stated that Trump defamed Carroll with false statements made with actual malice in the October 2022 Truth Social post; thus the jury awarded Carroll a total of $5 million in damages from Trump.

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Lol

She said she was raped...who is lying? Carroll or the jury?

Both is my answer.

Eta: she said she was raped.

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Lol and you believe that?

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Here is the position of anti trumpers currently:

I don't really believe these women or their accusations but Trump should be punished for running for president. The jury did their job.

That's it in a nutshell.

They'll say the same thing when the next biased jury hands out their verdict.