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Posted: 7/16/2023 7:00:59 PM EDT
This might rustle some jimmies. Starts at 2:40 or so
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Trump would tell Zelensky, no more money if you do not make a deal.
Trump then would tell Putin, we will give them much more if you do not make a deal. This is what he said. Make a deal and stop this. Rustles No Jimmies. |
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Quoted: Trump would tell Zelensky, no more money if you do not make a deal. Trump then would tell Putin, we will give them much more if you do not make a deal. This is what he said. Make a deal and stop this. Rustles No Jimmies. View Quote |
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He physically looks and sounds more like a crazy person every time I see him speak.
Gotta love that first part of his answer, tho. The narcissism just oozing out of him and Bartiromo kind of rolling her eyes and trying to get him to give a real answer to the question. |
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Quoted: This might rustle some jimmies. Starts at 2:40 or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct2Vl-NO6Og View Quote That’s Not what he says at all. He says, he would pressure Ukraine to capitulate. A negotiated peace. Pressure Russia into an armistice, by threatening to give Ukraine more help. |
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Quoted: That's Not what he says at all. He says, he would pressure Ukraine to capitulate. A negotiated peace. Pressure Russia into an armistice, by threatening to give Ukraine more help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: This might rustle some jimmies. Starts at 2:40 or so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct2Vl-NO6Og That's Not what he says at all. He says, he would pressure Ukraine to capitulate. A negotiated peace. Pressure Russia into an armistice, by threatening to give Ukraine more help. Its the same policy as Lindsey Graham, the only difference is it has one added useless step to it. |
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Quoted: Trump would tell Zelensky, no more money if you do not make a deal. Trump then would tell Putin, we will give them much more if you do not make a deal. This is what he said. Make a deal and stop this. Rustles No Jimmies. View Quote That's not what he said. "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." The obvious implication is that he would tell Zelensky that Ukraine will be cut off from assistance if they don't negotiate with Russia. That may or may not be what Trump is implying there but it is interesting that he didn't use those specific words for Ukraine while in the very next sentence spelling out in clear language that we would dramatically increase assistance to Ukraine if Russia didn't make a deal with Ukraine. At any rate, it is a really dumb idea because if they don't achieve a deal, then both sides are fulfilling Trump's threats/promise conditions and he's back to picking a side. Yeah, yeah. Its a negotiating tactic that is totally going to scare them both into "coming to their senses" and result in a miraculous deal made in 24 hours of Trump using his 87D chess maneuvers on them. You know, even though both of them can watch the news, see this interview, and know that is exactly what he's doing. Even though it ignores every nuance of what kind of a "deal" either side can live (or in Ukraine's case, survive) with. At the end of the day, this is probably exactly what it looks like. A desperate politician telling potential voters exactly what he thinks they want to hear. |
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Quoted: The man said it himself, you can see it plain as day on video. How is that trolling? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I rated troll It doesn’t matter. You painted their messiah in a negative light. There are a few magabots that commonly start threads claiming DeSantis said/did something he didn’t yet you are a troll for providing a video of the man saying the thing himself. |
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Quoted: That's not what he said. "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." The obvious implication is that he would tell Zelensky that Ukraine will be cut off from assistance if they don't negotiate with Russia. That may or may not be what Trump is implying there but it is interesting that he didn't use those specific words for Ukraine while in the very next sentence spelling out in clear language that we would dramatically increase assistance to Ukraine if Russia didn't make a deal with Ukraine. At any rate, it is a really dumb idea because if they don't achieve a deal, then both sides are fulfilling Trump's threats/promise conditions and he's back to picking a side. Yeah, yeah. Its a negotiating tactic that is totally going to scare them both into "coming to their senses" and result in a miraculous deal made in 24 hours of Trump using his 87D chess maneuvers on them. You know, even though both of them can watch the news, see this interview, and know that is exactly what he's doing. Even though it ignores every nuance of what kind of a "deal" either side can live (or in Ukraine's case, survive) with. At the end of the day, this is probably exactly what it looks like. A desperate politician telling potential voters exactly what he thinks they want to hear. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Trump would tell Zelensky, no more money if you do not make a deal. Trump then would tell Putin, we will give them much more if you do not make a deal. This is what he said. Make a deal and stop this. Rustles No Jimmies. That's not what he said. "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." The obvious implication is that he would tell Zelensky that Ukraine will be cut off from assistance if they don't negotiate with Russia. That may or may not be what Trump is implying there but it is interesting that he didn't use those specific words for Ukraine while in the very next sentence spelling out in clear language that we would dramatically increase assistance to Ukraine if Russia didn't make a deal with Ukraine. At any rate, it is a really dumb idea because if they don't achieve a deal, then both sides are fulfilling Trump's threats/promise conditions and he's back to picking a side. Yeah, yeah. Its a negotiating tactic that is totally going to scare them both into "coming to their senses" and result in a miraculous deal made in 24 hours of Trump using his 87D chess maneuvers on them. You know, even though both of them can watch the news, see this interview, and know that is exactly what he's doing. Even though it ignores every nuance of what kind of a "deal" either side can live (or in Ukraine's case, survive) with. At the end of the day, this is probably exactly what it looks like. A desperate politician telling potential voters exactly what he thinks they want to hear. Trump said a whole lot of nothing with no details. People don’t believe Trump would assist Ukraine vs Russia…..but he would nearly the same way as what’s happening. It’s a game for people but in the end everyone knows Russia is garbage and every one of them would arm whoever was fighting them whether it’s Ukraine, Uganda, or the Mexican Cartels. You know it’s true. Killing Russians and equipment was the whole point of the military the last 70yrs. Boats, jets, satellites, and missiles are for China. Tanks and artillery are for killing Russians. |
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Doesn’t matter. Trump won’t be president. Neither will Desantis. Whatever corpse the Ds roll out will win easily.
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Quoted: The man said it himself, you can see it plain as day on video. How is that trolling? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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Quoted: Trump said a whole lot of nothing with no details. People don’t believe Trump would assist Ukraine vs Russia…..but he would nearly the same way as what’s happening. It’s a game for people but in the end everyone knows Russia is garbage and every one of them would arm whoever was fighting them whether it’s Ukraine, Uganda, or the Mexican Cartels. You know it’s true. Killing Russians and equipment was the whole point of the military the last 70yrs. Boats, jets, satellites, and missiles are for China. Tanks and artillery are for killing Russians. View Quote I kind of agree with this and more and more I tend to think Trump would be about as timid in the aid department as Biden has been since day 1 of this thing. |
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The difference is they all know he means what he says. It scares everyone…including the Karen’s in this forum
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That's not what he said at all..... and I'm done with trump.
He said he'd tell putin if he won't sign a deal he will give ukraine more weapons and will tell ukraine if they don't cut a deal no more weapons |
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Quoted: That's not what he said at all..... and I'm done with trump. He said he'd tell putin if he won't sign a deal he will give ukraine more weapons and will tell ukraine if they don't cut a deal no more weapons View Quote What’s the “deal” then? Why not say what he wants them to do? Is the “deal” a secret? Does Trump even know what “the deal” is? |
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Quoted: What’s the “deal” then? Why not say what he wants them to do? Is the “deal” a secret? Does Trump even know what “the deal” is? View Quote Its a big secret bluff. He's just going to tell Zelensky and Putin that to make them blink, because he understands them so well. That's why he's outlining the plan for us here on the news. |
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Quoted: That's not what he said at all..... and I'm done with trump. He said he'd tell putin if he won't sign a deal he will give ukraine more weapons and will tell ukraine if they don't cut a deal no more weapons View Quote |
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Quoted: Trump would tell Zelensky, no more money if you do not make a deal. Trump then would tell Putin, we will give them much more if you do not make a deal. This is what he said. Make a deal and stop this. Rustles No Jimmies. View Quote Putin doesn't want a deal. He wants Ukraine. You really expect Zelensky to hand his country over? |
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On weapons to Ukraine Trump is gonna Biden harder than Biden could ever hope to Biden!
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Quoted: Quoted: If they both don't make a deal...then what? Is he going to increase giving Ukraine weapons while also cutting off weapons? He can't do both at the same time Listen Again... The exact quote: "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." Assuming Trump is being honest and transparent, what will happen if Putin and Zelensky do not make a deal under these conditions? |
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Not watching the video.
If trump actually said that and it’s not a click bait thread then……. Trump and I are on the same page. |
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Quoted: Not watching the video. If trump actually said that and it’s not a click bait thread then……. Trump and I are on the same page. View Quote here is the exact quote. "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." Which part do you agree with? The part where if Ukraine doesn't make a deal with Russia we cut them off completely? Or the part where if Russia doesn't make a deal with Ukraine, we dramatically increase our aid to Ukraine? |
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Quoted: That's not what he said at all..... and I'm done with trump. He said he'd tell putin if he won't sign a deal he will give ukraine more weapons and will tell ukraine if they don't cut a deal no more weapons View Quote |
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Quoted: here is the exact quote. "I would tell Zelensky, no more. You gotta make a deal. I would tell Putin, if you don't make a deal, we're gonna give them alot. We're gonna give them more than they ever got, if we have to." Which part do you agree with? The part where if Ukraine doesn't make a deal with Russia we cut them off completely? Or the part where if Russia doesn't make a deal with Ukraine, we dramatically increase our aid to Ukraine? View Quote What if neither make a deal. Or both. |
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You know, this might actually be a secret political genius statement.
For reasons that I predict will become apparent from some of the responses that will be made in this thread. Its complete nonsense that doesn't stand up to 30 seconds of critical thought. But I think it might just be a politically shrewd thing to say at this time. |
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