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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:17:57 AM EDT
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To be fair to Trump, he is right. Republicans are 23% of the voting public. He would lose if he had all of the Republicans and ignored the Independents. Plus he set the record for the most Republican primary voters in history. So he probably has more than enough Republicans voting for him. He needs Independents to vote for him. It is math more than philosophy. He doesn't need to unite the Republican party, not if he actually wants to get elected President. The only people who don't get that are a really small minority.  Once he's the nominee, he'll also be the nominee with the record amount of voters voting against him in the primary. A lot of the turnout was generated either by his opposition or out of general excitement to finally get someone to replace Obama; it wasn't all generated by Trump, for Trump. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:18:10 AM EDT
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and fucking them to death. Garrison/ Jenner 2016. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:18:30 AM EDT
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sooo, you are not a conservative then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party  . May God have mercy on us.      sooo, you are not a conservative then? The TEA party is far more conservative than the Republican party. Heck, the "R's" in some states are more liberal than a "D" in some areas. The Republican party from years ago died.......it hasn't been around for a while. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:19:14 AM EDT
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Fuck the GOPe
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:19:34 AM EDT
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Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. It will swing back to a more conservative climate. Reagan wasnt conservative enough either but they did a pretty good job of repairing the horror show that was Jimmy Carter. We have to beat another Santa Claus FSA cancer on our nation and this time I think he is the guy to bring the numbers out to vote in November. Conservatism isn't dead. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:19:43 AM EDT
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I can understand why he might feel animosity towards the the GOPe, after all, they've collectively done their best to stop him right up to the moment that Cruz dropped out.
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:20:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:21:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistorySeems less crazy than Trump. Not that we're setting the bar all that high with Trump. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:21:22 AM EDT
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Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? Sure see a lot of Trump supporters welcoming the demise of the party. That's weird. Not the party. The players... |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:21:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:22:23 AM EDT
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Trump is right in one sense. The GOP doesn't need to "unify", it needs to purge the RINOs, get conservative (not neocon) principles as both the party platform and agenda, and stop alienating the base that wants to support the GOP if and only if they start acting like they deserve it.
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:23:40 AM EDT
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Why would we miss the GOP? Every time they have the house or the senate or both. They get absolutely nothing done. Democrats pass stuff without even knowing what most of it is. Pretty obvious the Republican party just represents itself and not the American people. I thought we wanted .gov to do less
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:24:15 AM EDT
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Once he's the nominee, he'll also be the nominee with the record amount of voters voting against him in the primary. A lot of the turnout was generated either by his opposition or out of general excitement to finally get someone to replace Obama; it wasn't all generated by Trump, for Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be fair to Trump, he is right. Republicans are 23% of the voting public. He would lose if he had all of the Republicans and ignored the Independents. Plus he set the record for the most Republican primary voters in history. So he probably has more than enough Republicans voting for him. He needs Independents to vote for him. It is math more than philosophy. He doesn't need to unite the Republican party, not if he actually wants to get elected President. The only people who don't get that are a really small minority. Once he's the nominee, he'll also be the nominee with the record amount of voters voting against him in the primary. A lot of the turnout was generated either by his opposition or out of general excitement to finally get someone to replace Obama; it wasn't all generated by Trump, for Trump. So you suggest he attempt to get Republicans that are going to otherwise vote for Hillary? Screw those Republicans... |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:24:46 AM EDT
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Trump is right in one sense. The GOP doesn't need to "unify", it needs to purge the RINOs, get conservative (not neocon) principles as both the party platform and agenda, and stop alienating the base that wants to support the GOP if and only if they start acting like they deserve it. I don't want the GOP to be destroyed, I want the progressives inside the GOP to be destroyed. Nobody knows how to root out progressives like a progressive right? |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:25:33 AM EDT
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The TEA party is far more conservative than the Republican party. Heck, the "R's" in some states are more liberal than a "D" in some areas. The Republican party from years ago died.......it hasn't been around for a while. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.sooo, you are not a conservative then? The TEA party is far more conservative than the Republican party. Heck, the "R's" in some states are more liberal than a "D" in some areas. The Republican party from years ago died.......it hasn't been around for a while. so you are voting dem this year? |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:25:44 AM EDT
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It will swing back to a more conservative climate. Reagan wasnt conservative enough either but they did a pretty good job of repairing the horror show that was Jimmy Carter. We have to beat another Santa Claus FSA cancer on our nation and this time I think he is the guy to bring the numbers out to vote in November. Conservatism isn't dead. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. It will swing back to a more conservative climate. Reagan wasnt conservative enough either but they did a pretty good job of repairing the horror show that was Jimmy Carter. We have to beat another Santa Claus FSA cancer on our nation and this time I think he is the guy to bring the numbers out to vote in November. Conservatism isn't dead. I'm not sure it's dead yet, but it may well be. It looks more and more that the next 12-16 years will basically be dominated by Leftists under the GOP banner and Democrats. We can thank Trump and his supporters for that, to a large extent. After that much of that garbage, and its effect on the courts, I'm not sure it's even possible for this country to be saved. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:26:41 AM EDT
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So you suggest he attempt to get Republicans that are going to otherwise vote for Hillary? Screw those Republicans... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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To be fair to Trump, he is right. Republicans are 23% of the voting public. He would lose if he had all of the Republicans and ignored the Independents. Plus he set the record for the most Republican primary voters in history. So he probably has more than enough Republicans voting for him. He needs Independents to vote for him. It is math more than philosophy. He doesn't need to unite the Republican party, not if he actually wants to get elected President. The only people who don't get that are a really small minority. Once he's the nominee, he'll also be the nominee with the record amount of voters voting against him in the primary. A lot of the turnout was generated either by his opposition or out of general excitement to finally get someone to replace Obama; it wasn't all generated by Trump, for Trump. So you suggest he attempt to get Republicans that are going to otherwise vote for Hillary? Screw those Republicans... Never suggested that at all. Not even implied in my post. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:27:36 AM EDT
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Trump is right in one sense. The GOP doesn't need to "unify", it needs to purge the RINOs, get conservative (not neocon) principles as both the party platform and agenda, and stop alienating the base that wants to support the GOP if and only if they start acting like they deserve it. I don't want the GOP to be destroyed, I want the progressives inside the GOP to be destroyed. reading is for fags.....and trump voters.... |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:30:33 AM EDT
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Nobody knows how to root out progressives like a progressive right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump is right in one sense. The GOP doesn't need to "unify", it needs to purge the RINOs, get conservative (not neocon) principles as both the party platform and agenda, and stop alienating the base that wants to support the GOP if and only if they start acting like they deserve it. I don't want the GOP to be destroyed, I want the progressives inside the GOP to be destroyed. Nobody knows how to root out progressives like a progressive right? You mean like Hitlery? She's a corrupt criminal pure and simple. I don't know if Trump will manage to get rid of the progessives inside the GOP or not. So far, he has succeeded in making the GOP establishment and the DC think-tank echo chamber seem utterly irrelevant. And, I like that. 
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:31:25 AM EDT
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I'm not sure it's dead yet, but it may well be. It looks more and more that the next 12-16 years will basically be dominated by Leftists under the GOP banner and Democrats. We can thank Trump and his supporters for that, to a large extent. After that much of that garbage, and its effect on the courts, I'm not sure it's even possible for this country to be saved. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. It will swing back to a more conservative climate. Reagan wasnt conservative enough either but they did a pretty good job of repairing the horror show that was Jimmy Carter. We have to beat another Santa Claus FSA cancer on our nation and this time I think he is the guy to bring the numbers out to vote in November. Conservatism isn't dead. I'm not sure it's dead yet, but it may well be. It looks more and more that the next 12-16 years will basically be dominated by Leftists under the GOP banner and Democrats. We can thank Trump and his supporters for that, to a large extent. After that much of that garbage, and its effect on the courts, I'm not sure it's even possible for this country to be saved. Have faith. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:31:52 AM EDT
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You mean like Hitlery? She's a corrupt criminal pure and simple. I don't know if Trump will manage to get rid of the progessives inside the GOP or not. So far, he has succeeded in making the GOP establishment and the DC think-tank echo chamber seem utterly irrelevant. And, I like that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump is right in one sense. The GOP doesn't need to "unify", it needs to purge the RINOs, get conservative (not neocon) principles as both the party platform and agenda, and stop alienating the base that wants to support the GOP if and only if they start acting like they deserve it. I don't want the GOP to be destroyed, I want the progressives inside the GOP to be destroyed. Nobody knows how to root out progressives like a progressive right? You mean like Hitlery? She's a corrupt criminal pure and simple. I don't know if Trump will manage to get rid of the progessives inside the GOP or not. So far, he has succeeded in making the GOP establishment and the DC think-tank echo chamber seem utterly irrelevant. And, I like that. Trump is the progressive I was referring to. The fact that you can't recognize it shows how blinded you guys are. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:33:46 AM EDT
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He doesnt need to suck up to anyone but he does need to stop acting like a 12 year old kid.
He needs to show he can be a leader not an instagator. when ryan says hes not sure he is ready to vote for trump all Donnie needed to say was he hopes in time all the party will see him as the leader of the party and he will bring us all together. what does he do? Hes so smart he calls everyone names and gets mad like a child because no one likes him. This guy is a fucking nut case. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:33:51 AM EDT
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He is correct, it needs to be changed. Apparently into something that doesn't require conservatives to have any role. It will swing back to a more conservative climate. Reagan wasnt conservative enough either but they did a pretty good job of repairing the horror show that was Jimmy Carter. We have to beat another Santa Claus FSA cancer on our nation and this time I think he is the guy to bring the numbers out to vote in November. Conservatism isn't dead. I'm not sure it's dead yet, but it may well be. It looks more and more that the next 12-16 years will basically be dominated by Leftists under the GOP banner and Democrats. We can thank Trump and his supporters for that, to a large extent. After that much of that garbage, and its effect on the courts, I'm not sure it's even possible for this country to be saved. Have faith. Even if I did and was proven correct to do so, it's depressing to think that I'm in my 20s now and will have no chance of seeing our decline so much as halted until I'm in my 40s, at the very least. But I don't have faith in men, only God. I certainly no longer have faith in the average American voter, hence why my support for limiting the franchise and opposition to democracy is stronger than ever (and party of why I ended up at those positions to begin with). |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:37:14 AM EDT
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Never suggested that at all. Not even implied in my post. OK So which ones were you talking about when you said he had a record number voting against him? If the Republicans that didn't vote for him aren't going to support him now, they are de facto supporting Hillary. Screw them. He is right, he doesn't need to unite shit at this point. Those people had their shot. It is time for the people who supported other R's in the primaries to decide if they would prefer Trump or hillary. Cause those are the choices. I could not bring myself to vote for Trump in the primary, but now, he is the guy. Everyone needs to get on board. We cannot do hillary and no one else has a chance in hell of beating her. Simple as that. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:39:01 AM EDT
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He doesnt need to suck up to anyone but he does need to stop acting like a 12 year old kid. He needs to show he can be a leader not an instagator. when ryan says hes not sure he is ready to vote for trump all Donnie needed to say was he hopes in time all the party will see him as the leader of the party and he will bring us all together. what does he do? Hes so smart he calls everyone names and gets mad like a child because no one likes him. This guy is a fucking nut case. If the highest elected Republican in the land isn't ready to support the presumptive party nominee, the problem isn't with the nominee. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:39:28 AM EDT
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Seems less crazy than Trump. Not that we're setting the bar all that high with Trump. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Seems less crazy than Trump. Not that we're setting the bar all that high with Trump. McAfee is John Adams compared to Trump |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:41:34 AM EDT
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if you're a Republican and don't support your nominee leave the party and whine somewhere else
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:41:40 AM EDT
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.So Trump is supposed to submit to the GOPe and switch to their agenda of amnesty, more Muslims, and "free trade"? Because that's what they are trying to get him to do |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:41:48 AM EDT
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OK So which ones were you talking about when you said he had a record number voting against him? If the Republicans that didn't vote for him aren't going to support him now, they are de facto supporting Hillary. Screw them. He is right, he doesn't need to unite shit at this point. Those people had their shot. It is time for the people who supported other R's in the primaries to decide if they would prefer Trump or hillary. Cause those are the choices. I could not bring myself to vote for Trump in the primary, but now, he is the guy. Everyone needs to get on board. We cannot do hillary and no one else has a chance in hell of beating her. Simple as that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never suggested that at all. Not even implied in my post. OK So which ones were you talking about when you said he had a record number voting against him? If the Republicans that didn't vote for him aren't going to support him now, they are de facto supporting Hillary. Screw them. He is right, he doesn't need to unite shit at this point. Those people had their shot. It is time for the people who supported other R's in the primaries to decide if they would prefer Trump or hillary. Cause those are the choices. I could not bring myself to vote for Trump in the primary, but now, he is the guy. Everyone needs to get on board. We cannot do hillary and no one else has a chance in hell of beating her. Simple as that. I was referring to the nearly 2/3 of Republican voters who have voted so far, and over 3/5 of total voters in the GOP primaries (including non-Republicans). They are not all voting for Clinton, not by a long shot. Trump's role in the race past a certain point served to ensure that there would be no such thing as a real consensus nominee for the GOP this cycle. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:43:57 AM EDT
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if you're a Republican and don't support your nominee leave the party and whine somewhere else No. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:43:57 AM EDT
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if you're a Republican and don't support your nominee leave the party and whine somewhere else what if I am a conservative? |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:44:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter The Republican party has not been conservative for years,and years. Both Bushes were not conservatives in the least. The Congress and Senate are NOT Conservative at all, they roll over every time for Obama, Paul Ryan needs to go. Trump will clean house, and you know he is not going to be "PC" at all and will call it like he sees it. You cannot be a conservative if you are for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, soft on sentencing guidelines and soft on crime. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:45:17 AM EDT
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Oh man, the I told ya so's are gonna chap y'alls asses, right up until the internet blinks out.
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:46:28 AM EDT
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if you're a Republican and don't support your nominee leave the party and whine somewhere else It appears the party is leaving the small government/conservative/individual freedom types of voters. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And who here honestly expected the dumbass to any thing other than look like a spoiled rich Kid. If he goes back on any of his promises the people need to drag him out kicking and screaming and give him the QADHAFI farewell beating. You sound like the GOPe establishment guys crying about losing their slush-fund, corrupt insider trading and pork. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:47:41 AM EDT
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Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". It is a bad thing and I am blaming the politicians within the party, not Mr Trump. If we (R Party)lose this election than we will not likely see the R Party or any other variation that is dreamed up for many many years. This could be our last chance and it is time we take our Country back. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:49:40 AM EDT
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The Republican party has not been conservative for years,and years. Both Bushes were not conservatives in the least. The Congress and Senate are NOT Conservative at all, they roll over every time for Obama, Paul Ryan needs to go. Trump will clean house, and you know he is not going to be "PC" at all and will call it like he sees it. You cannot be a conservative if you are for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, soft on sentencing guidelines and soft on crime. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter The Republican party has not been conservative for years,and years. Both Bushes were not conservatives in the least. The Congress and Senate are NOT Conservative at all, they roll over every time for Obama, Paul Ryan needs to go. Trump will clean house, and you know he is not going to be "PC" at all and will call it like he sees it. You cannot be a conservative if you are for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, soft on sentencing guidelines and soft on crime. do you guys even understand English? I will try to translate. he said "I am a republican and will bring in more dems and commies, conservatives have no place here, fuck conservatives." |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:53:51 AM EDT
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I hope Lindsey Graham leaves the party. That guy is neither republican, nor conservative. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:54:52 AM EDT
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He doesnt need to suck up to anyone but he does need to stop acting like a 12 year old kid. He needs to show he can be a leader not an instagator. when ryan says hes not sure he is ready to vote for trump all Donnie needed to say was he hopes in time all the party will see him as the leader of the party and he will bring us all together. what does he do? Hes so smart he calls everyone names and gets mad like a child because no one likes him. This guy is a fucking nut case. If the highest elected Republican in the land isn't ready to support the presumptive party nominee, the problem isn't with the nominee. Im sure the feeling is mutual then, they think hes a democrat imposter and he acts like he doesnt have to do anything to make them see it different. Im just saying he can make this all go away by being the bigger man and yet not look like he submits which is the smart thing to do and also why he wont do it because hes not so smart and he doesnt care about anything but Donnie. wait until the topics come up on guns and how hes for guns but willing to trade our AK and AR rifles so we can all keep our marlin 30-30s and how we dont need that kind of weapon in the city. We will see soon thats for sure and soon he will say something and then the opposite like he does every day yet we dont think he will on our rights, wake up everyone. I am not saying we need a 3rd party its too late for anything other than voting for trump now but I for one will be waiting for him to go back on his word and it should be met with a million gun owners removing him from office when it does. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:56:22 AM EDT
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And who here honestly expected the dumbass to any thing other than look like a spoiled rich Kid. If he goes back on any of his promises the people need to drag him out kicking and screaming and give him the QADHAFI farewell beating. You sound like the GOPe establishment guys crying about losing their slush-fund, corrupt insider trading and pork. remember Donnie will be paying himself back with tax dollars and telling you he self funded. sounds like the good old boys doesnt it. GOP my ass. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:57:20 AM EDT
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Even if I did and was proven correct to do so, it's depressing to think that I'm in my 20s now and will have no chance of seeing our decline so much as halted until I'm in my 40s, at the very least. But I don't have faith in men, only God. I certainly no longer have faith in the average American voter, hence why my support for limiting the franchise and opposition to democracy is stronger than ever (and party of why I ended up at those positions to begin with). I understand where you are coming from and as a fellow believer, I get what you are saying. My point is really the same as yours with the exception that I identify the current structure and party apparatuses as the enemy to my children's future. We were at 8 some odd trillion in debt at the end of W. We are now racing toward 21 trillion. We voted in rogue non party candidates in 10 and 12 and had control of 2 of 3 branches of government and our boys still played ball with BHO. My opinion is that we are on the slippery slope now. I like Ted Cruz for a lot of reasons but he is not meant to be POTUS at this time. I believe DJT will help correct a lot of the relevant issues we are facing. Economy, security national and abroad, and immigration. I may be wrong but that is what I believe. I know for sure which folks are NOT going to fix it. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:58:14 AM EDT
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I hope Lindsey Graham leaves the party. That guy is neither republican, nor conservative. Im with you, theres many that need to leave or crawl under a rock. I do think its time for a change I just worry Donnie is the devil in disguise. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:59:19 AM EDT
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if you're a Republican and don't support your nominee leave the party and whine somewhere else It appears the party is leaving the small government/conservative/individual freedom types of voters. The members of the Republican party bailed on you long ago. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 12:59:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: do you guys even understand English? I will try to translate. he said "I am a republican and will bring in more dems and commies, conservatives have no place here, fuck conservatives." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter The Republican party has not been conservative for years,and years. Both Bushes were not conservatives in the least. The Congress and Senate are NOT Conservative at all, they roll over every time for Obama, Paul Ryan needs to go. Trump will clean house, and you know he is not going to be "PC" at all and will call it like he sees it. You cannot be a conservative if you are for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, soft on sentencing guidelines and soft on crime. do you guys even understand English? I will try to translate. he said "I am a republican and will bring in more dems and commies, conservatives have no place here, fuck conservatives." "I think it would be better if it were unified, I think it would be -- there would be something good about it. But I don't think it actually has to be unified in the traditional sense," Trump said. "I'm going to go out and I'm going to get millions of people from the Democrats," Trump said. "I'm going to get Bernie [Sanders] people to vote, because they like me on trade." He said he was going to "Poach" democrat voters. I did not read anything about "Fucking Conservatives" And Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham are not "Conservative"...lol |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:00:11 AM EDT
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He will win with democrats and Bernie voters, says it's not the conservative party, its the republican party. http://therightscoop.com/i-have-to-stay-true-to-my-principles-trump-says-the-party-doesnt-need-to-be-unified/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter The Republican party has not been conservative for years,and years. Both Bushes were not conservatives in the least. The Congress and Senate are NOT Conservative at all, they roll over every time for Obama, Paul Ryan needs to go. Trump will clean house, and you know he is not going to be "PC" at all and will call it like he sees it. You cannot be a conservative if you are for illegal aliens, sanctuary cities, soft on sentencing guidelines and soft on crime. do you guys even understand English? I will try to translate. he said "I am a republican and will bring in more dems and commies, conservatives have no place here, fuck conservatives." Have you ever heard the term "Reagan Democrat"? |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:00:24 AM EDT
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It is a bad thing and I am blaming the politicians within the party, not Mr Trump. If we (R Party)lose this election than we will not likely see the R Party or any other variation that is dreamed up for many many years. This could be our last chance and it is time we take our Country back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Farewell R Party . May God have mercy on us.Is the demise of the Republican party such a bad thing? It has become a cancer filled with Democrats. Saying "I'm a Republican" doesn't always mean "I'm a conservative". It is a bad thing and I am blaming the politicians within the party, not Mr Trump. If we (R Party)lose this election than we will not likely see the R Party or any other variation that is dreamed up for many many years. This could be our last chance and it is time we take our Country back. How are you going TO take OUR country back? With Trump, at least a percentage of Republicans AND Independents are trying. It's a message that a lot of people are tired of business as usual and are willing to go to extremes to endit. Bottom line it. IF the GOPe had actually done a better job of governance when it had the opportunity over the last 30+ years, this wouldn't be an issue. They didn't... |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:01:10 AM EDT
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I hope Lindsey Graham leaves the party. That guy is neither republican, nor conservative. Dear God he makes me fucking sick. He needs his disingenuous closet cum loving ass kicked for a week straight. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:01:24 AM EDT
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I understand where you are coming from and as a fellow believer, I get what you are saying. My point is really the same as yours with the exception that I identify the current structure and party apparatuses as the enemy to my children's future. We were at 8 some odd trillion in debt at the end of W. We are now racing toward 21 trillion. We voted in rogue non party candidates in 10 and 12 and had control of 2 of 3 branches of government and our boys still played ball with BHO. My opinion is that we are on the slippery slope now. I like Ted Cruz for a lot of reasons but he is not meant to be POTUS at this time. I believe DJT will help correct a lot of the relevant issues we are facing. Economy, security national and abroad, and immigration. I may be wrong but that is what I believe. I know for sure which folks are NOT going to fix it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Even if I did and was proven correct to do so, it's depressing to think that I'm in my 20s now and will have no chance of seeing our decline so much as halted until I'm in my 40s, at the very least. But I don't have faith in men, only God. I certainly no longer have faith in the average American voter, hence why my support for limiting the franchise and opposition to democracy is stronger than ever (and party of why I ended up at those positions to begin with). I understand where you are coming from and as a fellow believer, I get what you are saying. My point is really the same as yours with the exception that I identify the current structure and party apparatuses as the enemy to my children's future. We were at 8 some odd trillion in debt at the end of W. We are now racing toward 21 trillion. We voted in rogue non party candidates in 10 and 12 and had control of 2 of 3 branches of government and our boys still played ball with BHO. My opinion is that we are on the slippery slope now. I like Ted Cruz for a lot of reasons but he is not meant to be POTUS at this time. I believe DJT will help correct a lot of the relevant issues we are facing. Economy, security national and abroad, and immigration. I may be wrong but that is what I believe. I know for sure which folks are NOT going to fix it. Honestly, as much as I loathe Clinton, and know she will do harm (not that Trump won't), I'm starting to see some merit to Alexander Hamilton's suggestion that it is better for the enemy in office to be from the opposing side, and not from the same party. She will be a disaster, and that might be the only thing providing an opening for Cruz or some other conservative to rise to the top, although we will still need to do well in Congress. The establishment will still be an obstacle, though; Trump's not fixing that, either way. If we were to win, we'd have to engage in SCOTUS shenanigans to fix the damage done there, like what FDR was threatening to do. Not sure the support for that would be there, and there would probably be an electoral backlash, but the courts will kill our cause, otherwise. |
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Posted: 5/8/2016 1:02:34 AM EDT
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At this point I really hope he wins so we can learn our fucking lesson. Whether he wins or loses there will be lessons. The thing is whether people learn anything from them. i doubt it. People here say "it needs to happen", so was that the plan when the voted. This thing is going to escalate and HRC will be ushered in as POTUS. It is becoming more and more apparent that the other guy does not want to win and never did. Whether his idea was to just dismantle the R party, I think that is it, or just guarantee his dear friend is POTUS. There is nothing and I repeat nothing presidential about this guy. I guess you can bully and insult people in business but it's not going to work. He has alienated the hispanics, the blacks, the women, the conservatives.....HMMMMM. who am I missiing? What's left isn't going to win anything and before it's over he'll have alienated most of those left, that is all except the cult. Maybe even some of them will open their eyes. I doubt that as well. When she whoops his butt they will blame the hispanics, blacks, women and conservatives. |
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