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Posted: 10/4/2022 10:26:23 AM EDT
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I hope both CNN and Alex Jones gets it broken off in them.
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Posted: 10/4/2022 10:28:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Supreme Court has already ruled that freedom of speech limits the abilities for a public official to sue for libel/slander.... Current or former public figures get little to no protections. This is why biden can't sue you for talking shit about him either.. Sorry to stomp on everyone's parade. This will go nowhere. It is frightening that 87% of the posters here cannot grasp this basic legal principle. The biggest threat to our Republic is the horrible lack of education among the population on basic civics. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 10:28:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old man need money that bad? And the dumbest fucking statement on the internet today is awarded to... |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 10:52:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope both CNN and Alex Jones gets it broken off in them. I applaud your intellectually consistent viewpoint. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 11:17:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is frightening that 87% of the posters here cannot grasp this basic legal principle. The biggest threat to our Republic is the horrible lack of education among the population on basic civics. Makes sense Trump hired attorneys That are a threat to our republic   |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 11:21:30 AM EDT
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I don't think showing the "actual malice" component would be all that hard to prove. It was pretty clear to anyone watching from 2015 on, that CNN and it's employees had a seething hatred for Trump and tilted every mention of him in a way that would hurt his reputation
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Posted: 10/4/2022 12:34:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact is that if it gets dismissed it will confirm for many that justice is in fact dead, at least for now. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 12:55:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/4/2022 2:16:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s the principle. Yep this.. I don't think he even cares if he wins (or figures he even will). It's more about a message.. A punch back. I don't think he needs the money at all. I also don't really think this thing will go the distance either. Sometimes you just gotta kick em when they are down to remind em who they are :) |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:36:42 PM EDT
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The real question is why did it take him so damn long to start fighting back? Seems like this should have been news way before now.
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sandmann was not a public figure. Trump is. Completely different things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I heard them call us incest kids, bigots, racists,” Sandmann said. His filing against NBC-Universal and MSNBC reportedly asked for $275 million in damages. CNN and the Washington Post both settled defamation lawsuits from Sandmann in 2020 for undisclosed amounts. https://nypost.com/2021/12/18/covington-catholic-graduate-nicholas-sandmann-settlement-with-nbc/ I hope Trump wins bigly, Kyle too. Sandmann was not a public figure. Trump is. Completely different things. Sandman was an involuntary limited purpose public figure. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:50:13 PM EDT
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Last time Trump tried to do legal stuff he hired the three stooges to be his advocates… and it made him look dumb. What are the chances that he did better this time around?
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, now we support defamation laws and hate free speech? It's hard to keep up with the flip-flopping around here. Surely to Christ, you're aware that "free speech" only keeps you from being arrested by the government for the content of what you say, right? It doesn't protect you from being sued into obliteration, or getting the brakes beat off your ass for slandering people. I expect most of GD to not know the difference, but c'mon |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 3:54:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Surely to Christ, you're aware that "free speech" only keeps you from being arrested by the government for the content of what you say, right? It doesn't protect you from being sued into obliteration, or getting the brakes beat off your ass for slandering people. I expect most of GD to not know the difference, but c'mon Free speech has a much broader context beyond just the first amendment. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 4:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It'll get thrown out of court, but it seems like that kinda cash would sink them if it didn't and he won. They don't seem to be doing that good lately. He is probably thinking if he wins they will have to turn over the network. 
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Posted: 10/4/2022 4:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sandman was an involuntary limited purpose public figure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I heard them call us incest kids, bigots, racists,” Sandmann said. His filing against NBC-Universal and MSNBC reportedly asked for $275 million in damages. CNN and the Washington Post both settled defamation lawsuits from Sandmann in 2020 for undisclosed amounts. https://nypost.com/2021/12/18/covington-catholic-graduate-nicholas-sandmann-settlement-with-nbc/ I hope Trump wins bigly, Kyle too. Sandmann was not a public figure. Trump is. Completely different things. Sandman was an involuntary limited purpose public figure. Is that a legal definition? |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 4:56:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He is probably thinking if he wins they will have to turn over the network. LOL and rename it TNN! |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 5:12:40 PM EDT
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Who knows if Trump is really even expecting to win. He may just want this to get to the 11 Circuit; to 'shake the bush'. Eventually a court is going to have to say that he (a public figure) doesn't have the same rights as the rest of us, even if they're lying.
The focus should be on "intentional" and "malicious". |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 5:13:11 PM EDT
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He will never win, but fuck cnn
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:11:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old man need money that bad? Found one |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:18:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Old man need money that bad? He'd probably donated to the Hurricane Ian relief & recovery effort. 
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:21:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Alex Jones fans. Lots of them here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Who supports people publicly making false and harmful statements against others? Alex Jones fans. Lots of them here. Not the same. What are the real damages in the Jones lawsuit? I think Trump can argue significant damages. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 6:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that a legal definition? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I heard them call us incest kids, bigots, racists,” Sandmann said. His filing against NBC-Universal and MSNBC reportedly asked for $275 million in damages. CNN and the Washington Post both settled defamation lawsuits from Sandmann in 2020 for undisclosed amounts. https://nypost.com/2021/12/18/covington-catholic-graduate-nicholas-sandmann-settlement-with-nbc/ I hope Trump wins bigly, Kyle too. Sandmann was not a public figure. Trump is. Completely different things. Sandman was an involuntary limited purpose public figure. Is that a legal definition? Yes. Though it is a concatenation of two separate legal definitions that both applied to his case; those being "involuntary public figure" and "limited purpose public figure". It's an interesting legal area. |
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Posted: 10/4/2022 10:24:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not the same. What are the real damages in the Jones lawsuit? I think Trump can argue significant damages. It doesn’t matter if you don’t think there were real damages. Intentional infliction of emotional distress is an established tort. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intentional_infliction_of_emotional_distress |
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