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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:21:24 PM EST
[#1]
I worked with a retired nypd detective. He said they were real but at best were good for traffic matters. That was just his take, I'm sure someone knows somebody that through some really impressive graft got out of something serious.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:21:26 PM EST
[#2]
Why would you need a card? If you're that big of a deal they know who you are when they stop you.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:21:35 PM EST
[#3]
"Do you know who I am?!" is real.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:22:35 PM EST
[#4]
Real.
I had a couple. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:24:33 PM EST
[#5]
My uncle was a high level mason and active in veteran's organizations. He had a deck of courtesy cards thicker than his wallet.
He was pulled over a few times while I was with him. He always had a card from the Sheriff or the Chief. He passed this Saturday morning at 95. I miss him terribly and I'm not the only one. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:25:07 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My uncle was a high level mason and active in veteran's organizations. He had a deck of courtesy cards thicker than his wallet. He was pulled over a few times while I was with him. He always had a card from the Sheriff or the Chief. He passed this Saturday morning at 95. I miss him terribly and I'm not the only one. Sorry man  |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:25:20 PM EST
[#7]
Real.
And down here if you're really big, they give you a badge. Works more better than just a card. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:25:54 PM EST
[#8]
Completely real. Elected officials also make calls on behalf of donors that have run ins.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:27:19 PM EST
[#9]
Seems like more of a NE thing. I see lots of NYers down here driving around with those silly oversized PBA shields suctioned to their back windows. A talisman against tickets I guess they figure...maybe where they’re from.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:28:10 PM EST
[#10]
When I was still working, many years ago, I pulled over a guy for speeding. While running his info he called the Sheriff (my boss, his buddy) who had dispatch tell me to call him. Guy was big in the St. Jude charity so Sheriff asked if I could let him slide, which I did. Didn't really like it, but there was no way for me to come out good any other way.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:29:06 PM EST
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why would you need a card? If you're that big of a deal they know who you are when they stop you. That’s not what he’s talking about. It’s usually family and close friends. Of course the rich and influential can get them too, but its usually “regular” people with the inside connection. It’s a big thing in NJ and NY, not sure how many other States. The patrolmen give PBA cards, the officers have a different one. Ideally, you want to have Both. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:29:14 PM EST
[#12]
Not a thing up here. Every time someone says I know so and so, or Im related to so and so I offer to call them and see how they think we should handle it. Never been taken up on it.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:32:20 PM EST
[#13]
Quoted: or other friendly entity. Say you get stopped...show the card...assuming you didn't kill someone they let you go. Or is this only on TV? I'd say back in the 70s and 80s...sure. These days? Hell no. Too many snitches, cameras, and video phones out there. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:32:37 PM EST
[#14]
Try that shit 'round here, and you better have your own tin of lube...
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:33:15 PM EST
[#15]
Funny story -
Back when I was a local LEO, I saw a car blow thru a stop sign near a school, which was dismissing. Initiated traffic stop. Out of state tags......New York tags, to be exact. Info comes back negative stolen, blah blah blah. I get out of my car to see wtf this dude is thinking, and I'm met with the occupant holding a badge and just looking ahead. An NYPD badge. I tell him - "ok, cool. I need your license and registration please". NYPD cops jaw drops and he gets dickish with me. He tells me that "up north, cops don't pull over other cops".  I told him we do things differently here down south, and he just starts grumbling to himself. I gave him a ticket. Not because he was a dickhead trying to use his badge to get out of a ticket, but because he could have actually fucking killed a kid. Moral of the story? Fuck your "courtesy". If you endanger others, you deserve what you get. You deserve it even more if you have a badge, because you enforce the very laws you just fucking broke. ETA: I was not well-liked by my peers due to this mentality.  I had the last laugh though- I moved on to nuke land and my starting pay was more than the brass at my old agency. 
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:34:17 PM EST
[#16]
Is CHIPS on cable again? That Pena is underrated... Guy cracks me up!
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:34:23 PM EST
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: "Do you know who I am?!" is real. Probably the GOAT of "Do you know who I am?!"  Police Release Dash Cam Video Of Naked Randy Travis Arrest |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:34:35 PM EST
[#18]
Real. Buddy is a cop on Long Island. I had some for awhile. They get you out of traffic stop type type.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:35:08 PM EST
[#19]
You'd better hope Charles S. Dutton isn't the one who pulls you over.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:36:06 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Real. I had a couple. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:39:42 PM EST
[#21]
Large Ohio agency. Never seen one.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:40:02 PM EST
[#22]
I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform.
He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:41:06 PM EST
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Large Ohio agency. Never seen one. Your avatar kinda gives it away. Can personally vouch it's 100% a thing up here in Cleveland. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:41:16 PM EST
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems like more of a NE thing. I see lots of NYers down here driving around with those silly oversized PBA shields suctioned to their back windows. A talisman against tickets I guess they figure...maybe where they’re from. Yep. Northern thing, typical of greater union corruption |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:43:37 PM EST
[#25]
Local stations here have stickers that say “my kids a cop at XX” that are designed for your ID. Then there is the 11-99 foundation as well. It all helps. IMO best is always to just be polite to the cop, that’s gotten me out of more then one ticket.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:44:01 PM EST
[#26]
An ex-cop from NJ gave me a couple. Didn't figure they'd hold much sway with the Hawaii police so in the trash they went.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:46:01 PM EST
[#27]
I've heard of it being a thing in the NE. Down here, it doesn't matter. I know there are places in the south where being somebody matters, but I've arrested people who have called my boss on his cell phone at 1:30 in the morning (bad move, btw) and not heard a peep about it.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:48:07 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I pulled over a car once, ran a stop sign. Walked up to the car, the driver was a Marine, in uniform. He already had his license out, and I was like, "Yeah, I don't need that. Watch those signs. Have a nice day." Uniform worked better than any card. Some people you just don't write. Never wrote cops, firemen, or military people. I let an Army captain go a few years ago on a borderline charge. Could have completely fucked him up, I think. The guys protecting our country don't need any more shit. I'm willing to overlook as much as I'm allowed. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:48:15 PM EST
[#29]
Yup
Don't ask me how I know. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:54:23 PM EST
[#30]
NY/NJ thing
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Posted: 4/20/2020 7:57:31 PM EST
[#31]
Used to be a thing in NJ. Don't know about now.
In the 90's, I was visiting Hoboken and drinking in a bar with a buddy and his neighbor, a local detective. After picking up a few rounds, the detective was MY buddy, and handed me a stack of "courtesy" cards. Told me to hold on to them, only use them in emergencies. The next morning, he was banging on the door in a panic because he needed them back. They had his badge number on them, and he was accountable for every one he handed out. Good thing I never got in trouble in New Jersey. That's all I got. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:02:46 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Real. Buddy is a cop on Long Island. I had some for awhile. They get you out of traffic stop type type. PBA cards are a real thing, I have had one at one point in my life. They work for minor traffic stops. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:04:25 PM EST
[#33]
Arrestee: “I’m good friends with (insert name here)”
Pointblanke: “Excellent, a good friend will always post bail” |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:06:37 PM EST
[#34]
If you have ever been pulled over for a traffic violation but were sent on your way without a pinch, was the cop corrupt or derelict in his duties? Cops enjoy some discretion in how they perform their duties. I like that. I think it's a good idea to let them think for themselves. Otherwise, they would be required to shove the big blue weenie up everyone's ass.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:14:12 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny story - Back when I was a local LEO, I saw a car blow thru a stop sign near a school, which was dismissing. Initiated traffic stop. Out of state tags......New York tags, to be exact. Info comes back negative stolen, blah blah blah. I get out of my car to see wtf this dude is thinking, and I'm met with the occupant holding a badge and just looking ahead. An NYPD badge. I tell him - "ok, cool. I need your license and registration please". NYPD cops jaw drops and he gets dickish with me. He tells me that "up north, cops don't pull over other cops". I told him we do things differently here down south, and he just starts grumbling to himself. I gave him a ticket. Not because he was a dickhead trying to use his badge to get out of a ticket, but because he could have actually fucking killed a kid. Moral of the story? Fuck your "courtesy". If you endanger others, you deserve what you get. You deserve it even more if you have a badge, because you enforce the very laws you just fucking broke. ETA: I was not well-liked by my peers due to this mentality. I had the last laugh though- I moved on to nuke land and my starting pay was more than the brass at my old agency. Yeaaaah. Fuck that guy. If he was a decent dude...had an excuse, like--"Bro--I'm gonna shit my pants; please let me run down and hit a bathroom. I'm a cop from whatever---"; that'd be better because the dude was apologetic, knew he fucked up or whatever and had a semi-decent reason. But I can imagine going up to a window and not being greeted with anything but an imperious, dismissive asshole who was looking straight ahead and just holding up a badge? He'd get three tickets. Why? Because fuck THAT guy in particular. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:18:10 PM EST
[#36]
Who I am?.....Im the guy who put the bathrooms in this joint!
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:20:31 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Real. And down here if you're really big, they give you a badge. Works more better than just a card. This guy knows what's up. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:22:03 PM EST
[#38]
Badges are a thing down here(Florida). A local attorney friend of mine worked as general counsel for the local sheriff years ago and has a sheriff’s badge and “credentials” I thought it was hilarious he still carried it around in his custom made wallet.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:24:00 PM EST
[#39]
None of the places I have worked in 26 yrs on the job had anything like that
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:26:52 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny story - Back when I was a local LEO, I saw a car blow thru a stop sign near a school, which was dismissing. Initiated traffic stop. Out of state tags......New York tags, to be exact. Info comes back negative stolen, blah blah blah. I get out of my car to see wtf this dude is thinking, and I'm met with the occupant holding a badge and just looking ahead. An NYPD badge. I tell him - "ok, cool. I need your license and registration please". NYPD cops jaw drops and he gets dickish with me. He tells me that "up north, cops don't pull over other cops". I told him we do things differently here down south, and he just starts grumbling to himself. I gave him a ticket. Not because he was a dickhead trying to use his badge to get out of a ticket, but because he could have actually fucking killed a kid. Moral of the story? Fuck your "courtesy". If you endanger others, you deserve what you get. You deserve it even more if you have a badge, because you enforce the very laws you just fucking broke. ETA: I was not well-liked by my peers due to this mentality. I had the last laugh though- I moved on to nuke land and my starting pay was more than the brass at my old agency. No FOP badge blocking half his plate like they have around here? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:32:15 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: None of the places I have worked in 26 yrs on the job had anything like that What was the license plate frame that all the Phoenix PD guys used to rock with the agency radio license number? |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:32:44 PM EST
[#42]
A former Florida State Trooper moved here to a small town which had it's only 3 person police force. Wasn't more than a mile long but they had city ordinances against pretty much everything. Their big thing is stop signs and they have very clear little signs about fines and offenses. Well he was so used to "rolling stops" that he just paused and rolled on through. Only took him about $2000 in fines to break that habit. He carried his drivers license and his retired shield and ID in the same wallet. I knew the guys there in town were dickish because they pretty much thought they were untouchable. They'd stop pretty girls who were speeding just to flirt and I guess some got out of tickets that way. They did pretty well for a while till they fucked with the wrong guy and he caused a stink.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:48:08 PM EST
[#43]
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:49:20 PM EST
[#44]
... Nevermind
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:51:13 PM EST
[#45]
NY agencies pretty much all have them but they really only work for traffic stuff and only then depending on what happened. In some cases it actually make it worse like giving trooper PBA card to city cop who hates troopers etc.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 8:55:42 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the license plate frame that all the Phoenix PD guys used to rock with the agency radio license number? I have seen them. Not sure how much weight that carries. I was a street cop in the south. Here I am just a fed so I probably am out of the loop on a lotta stuff, but still never heard of such an overt thing |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:03:55 PM EST
[#47]
Absolutely, here in CA they're a very real thing. Trick is to have one from each department. Handing a CHP officer a courtesy card from LAPD probably won't get you any favors. So you need one from your county Sheriff, local PD, and state highway patrol.
As others pointed out, they're really only good for minor traffic violations where the officer can exercise discretion in letting you off with a warning. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:05:34 PM EST
[#48]
NYPD did, at least in the '70s.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:16:06 PM EST
[#49]
In MA - either a State Police cover in the rear window or a SPAM sticker (State Police Association of Massachusetts) was the invite for "who gave you the cover/sticker" at the first contact of a stop, i.e. who are you related to/ know. They're not that common, so it was generally somebody with family in the SP or a very good connection. As long as you weren't an asshole or being a complete retard to require the stop, it generally resulted in a verbal or a warning. Worked the same for local/ town agencies too.
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Posted: 4/20/2020 9:45:42 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have seen them. Not sure how much weight that carries. I was a street cop in the south. Here I am just a fed so I probably am out of the loop on a lotta stuff, but still never heard of such an overt thing They said something like Koh1550, or something like that. I don’t think that carried any weight. |
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