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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:13:45 PM EDT
[#1]
I'd love to see the internal comms on the ATF deciding that something so incredibly super safe is a MG.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:14:10 PM EDT
[#2]
NAGR to the rescue lol
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love to see the internal comms on the ATF deciding that something so incredibly super safe is a MG. FOIA it! FATF is allowed to just arbitrary make rules up |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:16:51 PM EDT
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The definition of a machine gun is whatever the ATF says it is. Act accordingly.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:22:07 PM EDT
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And now it makes perfect sense why Hoffman just put the knowledge out there in public and didn’t want to touch production of the safeties.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:22:31 PM EDT
[#6]
Cargill had better push their poo in this June.
Kharn |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:30:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And now it makes perfect sense why Hoffman just put the knowledge out there in public and didn’t want to touch production of the safeties. Can't stop the signal |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:31:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cargill had better push their poo in this June. Kharn Unfortunately it seems that the ATF has determined that the Cargill case meets the federal definition of a machinegun. That being the situation - and the case having been created after May of 1986 without having a manufacturing FFL and paid SOT - it is to be forfeit to the ATF no later than the end of business April 1 2024. Thank you for your understanding in this matter. 
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:32:58 PM EDT
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Well guess it's a good thing I hadn't gotten mine yet. My wife would not appreciate the ATF knocking on the door.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 6:40:19 PM EDT
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Not that I think they are machine guns, but Ray Charles could have seen this coming from the FATF.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 7:13:07 PM EDT
[#11]
The one benefit of them fucking up order delivery is those people who ordered but never received ??
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Posted: 3/8/2024 7:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The one benefit of them fucking up order delivery is those people who ordered but never received ?? You're not wrong but that shit ain't right. 
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:10:47 PM EDT
[#13]
Very unfortunate.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:34:33 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can't stop the signal |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:35:47 PM EDT
[#15]
Honestly if everything is a mg it's much cheaper and easier to drill a hole in Minecraft
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:48:37 PM EDT
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This is a lot easier for the bitch boy atf agents than going after actual criminals committing actual crimes with actual machine guns.
I should just go buy some Glock switches so I can have fun in peace. |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:51:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a lot easier for the bitch boy atf agents than going after actual criminals committing actual crimes with actual machine guns. I should just go buy some Glock switches so I can have fun in peace. This. |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 8:55:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:02:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a lot easier for the bitch boy atf agents than going after actual criminals committing actual crimes with actual machine guns. I should just go buy some Glock switches so I can have fun in peace. WELL, let’s not try to think or speak logically now. |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:06:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly if everything is a mg it's much cheaper and easier to drill a hole in Minecraft Still gotta source the rest of the pieces without getting tracked and fucked, even though they’re legal. 
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:07:38 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The definition of a machine gun is whatever the ATF says it is. Act accordingly. The USSC seems to agree since they have no intention of derailing the ATF. |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:09:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Honestly if everything is a mg it's much cheaper and easier to drill a hole in Minecraft Have you not seen a swift link? Drilling a hole is a complete waste of electricity in light of the swift link |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:12:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Still gotta source the rest of the pieces without getting tracked and fucked, even though they’re legal. They are super easy to obtain and cheap. The lower cut matters tho. Printers have been known to say Yankee too. In the metaverse of course |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:13:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you not seen a swift link? Drilling a hole is a complete waste of electricity in light of the swift link If course I have, I do work at an 07 shop |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:24:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are super easy to obtain and cheap. The lower cut matters tho. Printers have been known to say Yankee too. In the metaverse of course Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Still gotta source the rest of the pieces without getting tracked and fucked, even though they’re legal. They are super easy to obtain and cheap. The lower cut matters tho. Printers have been known to say Yankee too. In the metaverse of course $85 for APC lowers! - 207 left! |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:28:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:36:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Lol when the SOT’s be trolling
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Posted: 3/8/2024 9:40:27 PM EDT
[#28]
My assumption is it’ll end up the same way the FRT is; ATF follows up on orders and asks for them to give them up. Would be wild if the ATF just went crazy on arresting people given the SS mechanism of action being equal to that of an FRT
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:33:58 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuote History Attached File |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:36:17 PM EDT
[#30]
Ugh, of course they did.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:39:36 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a lot easier for the bitch boy atf agents than going after actual criminals committing actual crimes with actual machine guns. I should just go buy some Glock switches so I can have fun in peace. I think you're better off befriending a legit gang banger and having him order on your behalf, seeing as they never go after them. |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:42:56 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And now it makes perfect sense why Hoffman just put the knowledge out there in public and didn’t want to touch production of the safeties. Matt Hoover disagrees with you... |
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:45:55 PM EDT
[#33]
Some people will be anxiously awaiting their refunds.
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:50:02 PM EDT
[#34]
oof
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Posted: 3/8/2024 10:57:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryG lowers are full cut and on the cheap even Anderson makes them too, lots of mid priced ones too |
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Posted: 3/9/2024 11:49:11 AM EDT
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Atf always shitting in my cheerios. I was just about to order one
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Posted: 3/9/2024 12:06:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is a lot easier for the bitch boy atf agents than going after actual criminals committing actual crimes with actual machine guns. I should just go buy some Glock switches so I can have fun in peace. They are going after EXACTLY who they've been told to go after. This rogue government and AFT DO NOT care about "crimes" or "criminals". Good, law abiding, God fearing, people with guns are the threat to their masters, not street thugs. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 9:43:44 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And now it makes perfect sense why Hoffman just put the knowledge out there in public and didn’t want to touch production of the safeties. He's been shown firing them, though, and obviously had to make some himself to test. Does he have a SOT? |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 10:39:23 PM EDT
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I figured someone would get hit for those eventually. ATF makes their own laws and changes them whenever they want.
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been shown firing them, though, and obviously had to make some himself to test. Does he have a SOT? Do you need an SOT to make push button safetys? The SS does not meet the legal definition of a machinegun (trigger resets and must be pulled for each shot). But that's not stopping people from saying it is ...just like the bumpstock. |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:15:15 PM EDT
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I read on another forum there was speculation that twinbros is no longer running their own media based on the weird mention that the pepper jack (an MG conversion device) wasn't a problem.
 The original post was viewable on Twitter a few hours ago.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:18:48 PM EDT
[#42]
2A Coalition to the White Courtesy Phone.
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:39:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2024 11:48:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/11/2024 6:49:31 PM EDT
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I suppose it’s not surprising, but that doesn’t make it any less frustrating.
The ATF is out of control, and it doesn’t appear we are going to get any relief from the courts. Of course let’s be honest the entire federal bureaucracy is out of control. |
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Posted: 3/11/2024 11:46:04 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: G lowers are full cut and on the cheap even Anderson makes them too, lots of mid priced ones too APC lowers pay you dividends of a different nature. |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 12:09:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cargill had better push their poo in this June. Kharn |
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:45:58 PM EDT
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"SCOTUS has made their decision, now let them enforce it." - BATF
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:51:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryThey deleted their twitter account too. Also, no email sent about refunding orders. Guess I'll give it another week before disputing the credit card charge.
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Posted: 3/12/2024 3:54:17 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They deleted their twitter account too. Also, no email sent about refunding orders. Guess I'll give it another week before disputing the credit card charge. Don't wait if they owe you money. They're not going to be issuing refunds. |
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