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It will just mitigate the damage that is being done.   Nothing more.

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Provide a link to a peer reviewed study. I'll be waiting.

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i live in fracking central -southwest pa.  the real problem with fracking is what is done with the brine after the well has been fracked. a lot of that shit is ending up in the monongahela river  the river that supplies all of south west pa with water

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SWPA here too. That's about the only real thing I've heard about as well.
They ordered the companies to dispose of the brine water differently and now the bromide levels have come down...

Frack on and get my gas prices lower while pumping some more much needed cash into our local economy


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Hydrochloric Acid- Concentrated hydrochloric acid (fuming hydrochloric acid) forms acidic mists. Both the mist and the solution have a corrosive effect on human tissue, with the potential to damage respiratory organs, eyes, skin, and intestines. Upon mixing hydrochloric acid with common oxidizing chemicals, such as sodium hypochlorite (bleach, NaClO) or potassium permanganate (KMnO4), the toxic gas chlorine is produced



Glutaraldehyde- As a strong disinfectant, glutaraldehyde is toxic and can cause severe eye, nose, throat, and lung irritation, along with headaches, drowsiness and dizziness. It is a main source of occupational asthma among health care providers



Quaternary ammonium cation- Quaternary ammonium compounds can display a range of health effects, amongst which are mild skin and respiratory irritation [11] up to severe caustic burns on skin and gastro-intestinal lining (depending on concentration), gastro-intestinal symptoms (e.g., nausea and vomiting), coma, convulsions, hypotension and death.[12]



They are thought to be the chemical group responsible for anaphylactic reactions that occur with use of neuromuscular blocking drugs during general anaesthesia in surgery.[13] Quaternium-15 is the single most often found cause of allergic contact dermatitis of the hands (16.5% in 959 cases)[14]



[edit] Reproductive effects of trace amounts



Quaternary ammonium-based disinfectants (Virex and Quatricide) were tentatively identified (by researcher Patricia Hunt - who previously uncovered the reproductive system effects of bisphenol A) and were also identified by researchers at other labs, as the most probable cause of jumps in birth defects and fertility problems in caged lab mice





OK so by posting that list are you trying to reassure people that this whole process is safe?? the three things I just posted are the first 3 on the LOOOONG list of shit in the fracking chemistry and I don't know about you but I am not reassured. What you need to do is start drinking this stuff on a regular basis and come back and tell me in a couple of years how you feel then you can frack away. I guess my point is really moot though because the fix is in and all the politicians (at least th ones in PA) are bought off and the fracking is here so you win and now we are the health test case.

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Well the best part is they are using the water since it is filled with salt and of course radioactive materials on the roads to melt snow and ice.

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Well the best part is they are using the water since it is filled with salt and of course radioactive materials on the roads to melt snow and ice.

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JIP, what I was getting at yesterday is your fallacious logic that something in X quantity that is bad for you is bad for you in Y quantity.

You probably eat foods that are treated with ammonia. I would like you to drink a glass of ammonia every day and get back to us in two year.
Salt in large quantities will kill you, so stop eating salt.
Water in large quantities will kill you, so stop drinking water.

Also, you claim that chemicals that are extremely diluted are basically useless. So stop eating trace minerals, you body probably doesn't really need them anyway.

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Have been 40,000+ frack jobs in Kansas since the first one in 1947, not a single instance of a groundwater aquifer harmed by the fracking process.  We have a few plumes from surface spills and poor disposal practices in the 50's & 60's, but nothing caused by the fracking itself.

Here we are fracking at 5,000 feet and the aquifer is 700 ft at its deepest. Give around 4,000 feet of shales and limestones as a buffer against the fluids migrating.

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JIP, what I was getting at yesterday is your fallacious logic that something in X quantity that is bad for you is bad for you in Y quantity.

You probably eat foods that are treated with ammonia. I would like you to drink a glass of ammonia every day and get back to us in two year.
Salt in large quantities will kill you, so stop eating salt.
Water in large quantities will kill you, so stop drinking water.

Also, you claim that chemicals that are extremely diluted are basically useless. So stop eating trace minerals, you body probably doesn't really need them anyway.

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Well the best part is they are using the water since it is filled with salt and of course radioactive materials on the roads to melt snow and ice.

Several New York municipalities are using contaminated wastewater from natural gas drilling operations as part of their road and highway maintenance programs according to an Ithaca-based environmental activist.
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The fluid often contains brine, heavy metals and radioactive materials, said Walter Hang, president of Toxics Targeting in Ithaca.
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The attitude is that it's just salty water that comes up with the gas, but people are just going to be shocked that they were being exposed to the contaminated wastewater through DEC-sanctioned dumping programs without any comprehensive health assessment," Hang said.

The DEC contends the use of the wastewater is safe for purposes such as keeping dust levels down during road construction and as a de-icer in winter.

The wastewater it approves for "beneficial use" comes from non-shale vertical wells that are drilled in New York, which rules out the brine produced in out-of-state wells that have been subjected to high-volume hydraulic fracturing.

"We consider the source, the potential use, the characteristics of the water itself, and where it would be applied," said DEC spokesman Michael Bopp.
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Hang has posted to his website, www.toxicstargeting.com, detailed information mapping the roads where the wastewater is used, the municipalities that have applied to the DEC for permission to apply the wastewater to road surfaces –– usually by spraying –– and the DEC's approval of the applications.
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Drinking oil and gas is bad for you, and it is already in the ground.  In fact, the earth below you is full of nasty things that are bad for you.  We don't get many poisonous compounds from outer space.

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OH MY GAWD YOURE RIGHT. EVERONE WHO LIVES ON EARTH EVENTUALLY DIES!!!!!!!   BAN THE EARTH!!!!!  ITS FOR THE LIFE!!!!!!

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OH MY GAWD YOURE RIGHT. EVERONE WHO LIVES ON EARTH EVENTUALLY DIES!!!!!!!   BAN THE EARTH!!!!!  ITS FOR THE LIFE!!!!!!

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OH MY GAWD YOURE RIGHT. EVERONE WHO LIVES ON EARTH EVENTUALLY DIES!!!!!!!   BAN THE EARTH!!!!!  ITS FOR THE LIFE!!!!!!

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I think I should stop breathing. My respiration causes cellular oxidation... the leading cause of death.

Goodbye arfcom, I shall now start holding my breath.

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Oh gee... what did I start?

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I don't know, but we should ban it.  Naturally, you are also banned as the cause.

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The worst thing I see about fracking is they use up the local water supply.  Here we are in the 3rd year of the worst drought in 50 years and folks are selling their water to the oil companies.  That and farmers are irrigating their fuel source corn crops like there is no tomorrow.  Once used it is never recovered.  I like cheap energy and a robust economy but we cannot survive without water.

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I don't know, but we should ban it.  Naturally, you are also banned as the cause.

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I guess the only logical solution is to ban life...

This site doesn't use the term ninja'd enough.

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We just have to move to the Moon.

The statistics show is is clearly healthier.

Only 12 men have ever walked on the moon.  If those still alive all died today, they would have averaged 77 years.  That is longer than the average life expectancy of people who have only walked on Earth.  The evidence is clear.

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GOD DAMN  You're RIGHT. I knew I was on to something when I said we needed to ban earth.  Packing my bags now. But what if you'd never die on another palnet?  Can we send JIP to venus to find out?

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GOD DAMN  You're RIGHT. I knew I was on to something when I said we needed to ban earth.  Packing my bags now. But what if you'd never die on another palnet?  Can we send JIP to venus to find out?

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It's true, nobody has ever died on the moon. Real estate is going to get very expensive, very quickly when the secret gets out.

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I think I should stop breathing. My respiration causes cellular oxidation... the leading cause of death.



Goodbye arfcom, I shall now start holding my breath.

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Please tell us precisely how fracing pollutes the ground water.  

This ought to be good.


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Sure there's oil in them thar hills.  Fracking also pollutes the local water supply. No water, no life.  

Want a game changer?  Univ of Milan demonstrated fusion but the US refused the patent.

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Then it appears that there are two of you that have no idea what he is talking about.

There is no valve to leave open between the hydrocarbon producing formations where fracking takes place and groundwater aquifers. None. Nor are there leaks, seals to change or neglect, or corners to cut that would cross contaminate these formations seperated by thousands of feet of rock, steel, and concrete.

The boreholes passing through the groundwater formations have pipe cemented in place all the way to the bottom of the well....inside of pipe cemented in place for thousands of feet above and below them....inside of pipe cemented in place for hundreds of feet above and below them.

Anything spilled on the surface has to be reported to the EPA and remediated to EPA standards. This is a rare occurance and the chances of a surface spill being of sufficent size to penetrate hundreds or thousands of feet down to the groundwater are nearly zero.

I work in the industry and I have had a belly full of willfully ignorant useful idiots spouting bullshit about groundwater being polluted by fracking operations. There has not been ONE instance with definative proof of this occuring out of tens of thousands of wells drilled and completed using fracking technology.

You can bullshit the fans....but you can't bullshit the fucking players.

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Fracking is the pumping of unknown chemicals and water into the ground.  

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I have worked all over Texas/New Mexico installing GPS monitors in fleets of trucks for the oil service industry.  We would stay in a town for a day or two and move on to the next.  Most of the small towns now have impotable well water.  Talking to the local people, they say it became contaminated after they started fraking. The water smells like it has ammonia or something in it, i wouldn't even wash my hands with that shit.

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Sure there's oil in them thar hills.  Fracking also pollutes the local water supply. No water, no life.  



Want a game changer?  Univ of Milan demonstrated fusion but the US refused the patent.

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Well the best part is they are using the water since it is filled with salt and of course radioactive materials on the roads to melt snow and ice.

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I have worked all over Texas/New Mexico installing GPS monitors in fleets of trucks for the oil service industry.  We would stay in a town for a day or two and move on to the next.  Most of the small towns now have impotable well water.  Talking to the local people, they say it became contaminated after they started fraking. The water smells like it has ammonia or something in it, i wouldn't even wash my hands with that shit.

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Has anyone pointed out yet that there is no "k" in fracing????  

And by the way, frac on!!!

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I did on page 4.



No idea how the idiots added a K to the term Hydraulic Fracturing

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please somebody get this guy a beer.

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More proof in the video I posted above.  

Perhaps you need to look into what exactly proof is. Even the researches do not agree with your claim of proof.
In an interview, Jackson said that gas was more likely to migrate underground than liquid chemicals. Based on his findings, he doesn’t believe the toxic chemicals pumped into the ground during fracturing are likely to end up in water supplies the same way the methane did. “I’m not ready to use the word impossible,” he said, “but unlikely.”

In a white paper the group issued along with the journal article, Jackson and the others acknowledged the uncertainty and called for more research. “Contamination is often stated to be impossible due to the distance between the well and the drinking water,” they wrote. “Although this seems reasonable in most (and possibly all) cases, field and modeling studies should be undertaken to confirm this assumption. ... Understanding any cases where this assumption is incorrect will be important—when, where, and why they occur—to limit problems with hydraulic fracturing operations.”

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I think since the school in Buffalo shut down it's fracking research department (I know it is called something different and I don't care so don't bother correcting me) as nothing but a propaganda wing for the frackers all research that is pro fracking should come into question.

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I am not sure what that is supposed to mean but OK, either way this did happen and you can look up SUNY Buffalo shutting this down or look up the link I posted earlier in this thread or do nothing I don't really care.

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Read the link I made hot. It only makes sense when you pump chemicals and shit into the ground that water supplies can be contaminated.

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Do nothing, as in not respond to arguments posted towards you?

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Please clarify this, did I miss something?.