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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:46:03 PM EDT
The United States Air Force (USAF) and National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) have completed the first development flight test of a controversial update to a nuclear bomb that has been use since the 1960s. The tests are designed to extend the lifespan of the nuclear weapon by upgrading some of its parts Spoiler alert: This was a 'safe' version of the the B61-12 nuclear gravity bomb with no warhead, tested at Tonopah Test Range in Nevada. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3154136/Air-force-drops-controversial-bomb-test-designed-update-nuclear-arsenal.html  |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:50:05 PM EDT
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B61 drop shape at the US Nuclear Museum in Albuquerque:
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:50:22 PM EDT
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Needs more earth-shattering kaboom
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:51:53 PM EDT
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Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada.
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:52:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. This, we've had enough  |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:53:21 PM EDT
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Wait.... we have a US Nuclear Weapons Museum?
 Why the fuck I wasn't ever told about this!  Damn it GD.... you're fucking slipping!
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:55:54 PM EDT
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Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. I had to LOL. 
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:57:17 PM EDT
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They should have dropped it on Ferguson! Oh yea they already destroyed it.
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Posted: 7/8/2015 9:57:32 PM EDT
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IBJH
In before Jade Helm! I love me some B-61. Big crowd pleaser! |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:00:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:00:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IBJH In before Jade Helm! I love me some B-61. Big crowd pleaser! Nah - the B83 is the crowd pleaser.   |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:01:07 PM EDT
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Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. They need to recreate the soviet czar bomba and drop it there for historical and scientific testing |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:01:11 PM EDT
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Well it's about time we upgraded our nukes.
Don't want them to go past the sell-by date. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:03:32 PM EDT
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Needs more earth-shattering kaboom 
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:03:50 PM EDT
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Needs more earth-shattering kaboom 
ETA: 18 seconds. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:06:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:10:51 PM EDT
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Needs to be tested at Baltimore Test Range, in Maryland, instead of Nevada. I raffed. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:11:27 PM EDT
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Wait.... we have a US Nuclear Weapons Museum? Why the fuck I wasn't ever told about this! Damn it GD.... you're fucking slipping! There is also a museum in Las Vegas. When i swung through a couple years ago there was an incredibly nice woman who's husband had been a weather technician for some of the testing done in alaska. well worth the visit if you're in the area |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:14:03 PM EDT
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That's nothing to the Tsar Bomba
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:15:58 PM EDT
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B61 drop shape at the US Nuclear Museum in Albuquerque: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10789 We called that the "silver bullet". |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:16:31 PM EDT
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IBJH In before Jade Helm! I love me some B-61. Big crowd pleaser! Nah - the B83 is the crowd pleaser.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10790 Is that in the spare bedroom? |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:17:10 PM EDT
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Wait.... we have a US Nuclear Weapons Museum? Why the fuck I wasn't ever told about this! Damn it GD.... you're fucking slipping! Las Vegas |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:19:12 PM EDT
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IBJH In before Jade Helm! I love me some B-61. Big crowd pleaser! Nah - the B83 is the crowd pleaser.
http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10790 No. The 'Dial-a-Boom' is the massive crowd pleaser. Big bad megaton is 'mother of all crowds pleaser'. You need to get your crowd sizer calibrated! The scale starts with SRAM's as the 'party favors' and goes up from there... |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:19:43 PM EDT
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That's nothing to the Tsar Bomba Yep. And they tested the thing at only half strength! It's the ultimate crowd-eliminator! |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:34:03 PM EDT
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I can say with all honesty that I have sat my ass on a real live B61, B83, and a SRAM. On multiple occasions. <<< USAF SAC AMMO cold war. 
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:51:29 PM EDT
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We called that the "silver bullet". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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B61 drop shape at the US Nuclear Museum in Albuquerque: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10789 We called that the "silver bullet". I've always wanted one of the sub-scale training bombs. Looked like a 3 foot long miniature V-2 rocket. I know a guy who had one as the base for the flagpole at his house and somehow never asked where he got his. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:53:34 PM EDT
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Needs more earth-shattering kaboom That would require an Iludium Pu-34 Explosive Space Modulator. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:58:11 PM EDT
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I can say with all honesty that I have sat my ass on a real live B61, B83, and a SRAM. On multiple occasions. <<< USAF SAC AMMO cold war.
TCABC Thankfully I DIDN'T have to. I went thru basic in 1984 and my initial (proposed? I don't remember how it was worded) assignment was to be a SRAM missile maintenance technician. Fortunately I wound up going to avionics school and working on F-15s. SAC didn't appeal to me one bit. My dad was a Boeing engineer and worked on some cool stuff. He was on a program to adapt a nuclear cruise missile designed for the B-1A, for use on the B-52. I have a pic around here somewhere. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 10:59:16 PM EDT
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supersonic tritium factory FTW...
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:00:33 PM EDT
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Disregard.
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:07:49 PM EDT
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Function test all over SF ... FTW
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:13:59 PM EDT
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days?
We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:35:21 PM EDT
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. Where's sylvan? |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:36:07 PM EDT
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So they dropped a Glock?
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:41:15 PM EDT
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:41:46 PM EDT
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Where's sylvan? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. Where's sylvan? What the hell!?! What am I, chopped liver? 
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:42:53 PM EDT
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. We had one and they retired it...with no replacement. 
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:44:24 PM EDT
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What the hell!?! What am I, chopped liver?
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. Where's sylvan? What the hell!?! What am I, chopped liver?
Sorry sir, but you post recipes and he posts articles.
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:44:37 PM EDT
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B61 drop shape at the US Nuclear Museum in Albuquerque: http://www.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=10789 Sort of want a replica of this for my office. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:56:02 PM EDT
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What the hell!?! What am I, chopped liver?
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. Where's sylvan? What the hell!?! What am I, chopped liver?
Sorry. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 12:00:26 AM EDT
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No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 12:58:57 AM EDT
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Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. There are eyes and then there are eyes. If ever a nuclear gravity bomb is dropped again there will likely be eyes on the target. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:09:07 AM EDT
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This is a ground penetrating bomb right?
accuracy even with 440kt is important when underground... |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:13:55 AM EDT
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FOOMP
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:25:51 AM EDT
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edit - below.
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:26:28 AM EDT
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. You can always recall planes. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:34:26 AM EDT
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You can always recall planes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. You can always recall planes. Not if Major Kong is piloting. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:38:50 AM EDT
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You can always recall planes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. You can always recall planes. This. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:53:50 AM EDT
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Wait.... we have a US Nuclear Weapons Museum? Why the fuck I wasn't ever told about this! Damn it GD.... you're fucking slipping! It's pretty cool. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 1:58:28 AM EDT
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Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. Digging something up and blowing it to kingdom come... There's a rather shocking level of precision involved. |
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Posted: 7/9/2015 3:52:39 AM EDT
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There are eyes and then there are eyes. If ever a nuclear gravity bomb is dropped again there will likely be eyes on the target. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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With all the improvements in air defense, isn't a nuclear gravity bomb pretty much useless these days? We SHOULD be upgrading and building more nuclear stealth cruise missiles, improving our ballistic missiles, and doing serious work on hypersonic missiles. No. There's still a very valid need for a weapon you have to put eyes on target for. OTH weapons have their place, too, but when you absolutely, positively have to kill it, a large(r than you can put on a missile) weapon eyeballed into the DGZ is the way to go. Nobody is going to be putting eyes on a target for a nuclear bomb. Bomb will be dropped from high altitude and I would think that the sheer destructive power of a nuclear blast makes the need for precision guidance a moot point. The only situation where I could see nuclear gravity bombs being relevant would be for follow up strikes and that only after all other nuclear weapons have been used or are being held in reserve if they survived the first strike in case another enemy launches on us. There are eyes and then there are eyes. If ever a nuclear gravity bomb is dropped again there will likely be eyes on the target. I SEE what you did there. |
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