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Link Posted: 5/14/2018 11:58:50 PM EDT
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They didnt say annual.  Its $97,400 over 8 years... "your first 8 years of renting" or 22-29.  Still its a stupid metric and they clearly should have re-worded given how many people got confused.

So annually thats $1015 a month, which actually makes sense, and is still fairly high.

However i FREAKING tire of anyone whining about being paycheck to paycheck or one-bad away from homeless when I see (not all are in this video, but others like it):
1) Obviously paid $100+ for the hair cut / do / coloring, nails too.
2) fancy TVS / Artsy fartsy shit on the walls
3) animals = money drain
4) latest IGadget
5) a >$10k car
6) a fancy apartment w new looking / designer furniture
7) designer label purse / shades / watch
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 12:41:20 AM EDT
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Bull fucking shit.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 12:41:29 AM EDT
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median? Bullshit. Cali, the colleges, and other ridiculously expensive areas throw off that number.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 12:48:29 AM EDT
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$8,100 / mo.? I don't believe that for a second.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:09:24 AM EDT
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My son paid $2,000 a month in Alexandria VA for a three bedroom townhouse, before they bought a house.  My nephew just bought a $600,000 house in Seattle, one of the worst markets there is.  Where in the world would you have to pay $8,000 a month?
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Maybe Manhattan for a 5th Ave penthouse or a brownstone that hasn't been apartment-ed out (if there are any left).  Perhaps Malibu for a beach house.

ETA - Ah, I see... it's over 8 years.  Trying to make everything look worse than it is.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:11:31 AM EDT
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Over $8k a month in RENT? Are they smoking crack?
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They need to remove the top 5 most expensive cities like NYC, San Francisco, etc.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:14:10 AM EDT
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someone moved the decimal
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:14:41 AM EDT
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Bullshit I have lived in a 3000sq ft house with a heated salt water pool in FL for $1200 a month

That is the most I have ever paid.

my House is over 3k square ft(1200 upstairs 30% finished) and my mortgage and T/I is only $1050.

Quit trying to live beyond your means kiddos
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Your parents and especially your grandparents think you pay too much in your area.

Hopefully you get my point.

Buy a house and buy it now. Lock that shit in.
Especially in an actual desirable area.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:15:05 AM EDT
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Boo hoo.

Get a better job, losers.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:21:31 AM EDT
[#10]
Salaries have not kept up with Inflation.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:34:10 AM EDT
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It's easy to hit 1700-2000 in seattle per month. Rents have gotten really high-- my coworkers are paying rents that are almost my monthly mortgage.

Could be worse, could be the bay area. I did an airbnb at an old ass house where the people renting worked 2 jobs, could barely afford it and only managed to stay afloat by doing airbnb.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:40:17 AM EDT
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Ok, so after doing their math with the new information that it's over 8 years.

8 Years or 96 months

$97,400

$1014.58 per month.

That's now rent works. You don't want to buy a house so you have to rent. You help pay off someone else's property until you get sick of that an just buy a house yourself.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:41:48 AM EDT
[#13]
What they meant to say is Millennials paid $97,000 combined in rent.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:43:09 AM EDT
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Yeah rent is stupid high right now.  We are paying 200 less a month for a 2100sq ft house than it would cost to rent a one bedroom in our area.

That said, there's no fucking way the median is 8k/mo.

edit:  Read the updated info on pg 2.  That makes more sense.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:45:40 AM EDT
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#fakenews
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:50:29 AM EDT
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I was paying ~~$1200/month in 1988.

Of course, i had a high floor apartment on Lake Shore Drive (overlooking the lake, assholes).

TOTALLY worth it.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 1:54:05 AM EDT
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This
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 2:04:39 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2018 2:13:08 AM EDT
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My parents rental house in Silver Lake, Los Angeles...

is 3500 a month...

3 bedroom....2 bath...1200...square feet.

I think thats cheap for Los Angeles.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 2:40:26 AM EDT
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Someone should tell them to move to central ks, they can buy a nice 3-4 bedroom home for that here.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 3:08:47 AM EDT
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I don't know what data they used, but they say "median", not average.  A horse of a very different color indeed.

In the dataset  1,2,3,4,1000,2000,3000 the median is 4.  The average is 858.57...
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 3:30:16 AM EDT
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I don't know what data they used, but they say "median", not average.  A horse of a very different color indeed.

In the dataset  1,2,3,4,1000,2000,3000 the median is 4.  The average is 858.57...
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And calculate that over 8 years, then throw out a large number so that people will click on the story/video, become outraged and start a conversation
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 3:50:34 AM EDT
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And calculate that over 8 years, then throw out a large number so that people will click on the story/video, become outraged and start a conversation
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And this thread is now on page four so it worked.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 3:58:28 AM EDT
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And this thread is now on page four so it worked.
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And calculate that over 8 years, then throw out a large number so that people will click on the story/video, become outraged and start a conversation
And this thread is now on page four so it worked.
Your avatar is appropriate
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 4:11:13 AM EDT
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It's not. 8K a month? BS.

Maybe millennials in Manhatten or Beverly Hills, but not normal anywhere else.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 4:14:07 AM EDT
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2k a month ????? jesus, fuck that!
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My son and his wife, both professionals with careers and no kids are paying 2K a month for a one bedroom apartment.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 4:27:12 AM EDT
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Welcome to the Residences, at the Lofts, located in beautiful SoDoSoPa.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 4:33:38 AM EDT
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My parents rental house in Silver Lake, Los Angeles...

is 3500 a month...

3 bedroom....2 bath...1200...square feet.

I think thats cheap for Los Angeles.
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It is, the problem with the "Median" is that the high and low for LA encompass south central, and beverly hills. LA is either gated in, or a third world shithole. Depends on the block you are on, or the freeway exit you use.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 5:26:21 AM EDT
[#29]
I'll help that Asian girl pay her rent.

Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:41:12 AM EDT
[#30]
That should help with the obesity problem.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:49:43 AM EDT
[#31]
Fake news is very fake.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:51:03 AM EDT
[#32]
Where are they getting the money from? lol
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:51:27 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:55:38 AM EDT
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"Median"

I know a guy with 3 rented places in a large city, and the rent for his 40k sq ft downtown warehouse is $35,000/month.   So maybe he skews the numbers a bit
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I'd imagine all the 30 year olds still living at their parents significantly offset an example like yours.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 6:57:51 AM EDT
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That makes far more sense.
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They dropped some key words from the video. It should be "you could spend $97k in rent before you turn 30."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/real-estate/2018/03/30/you-could-spend-97-k-rent-before-you-turn-30/468889002/
That makes far more sense.
Oh. So it's a video for why you should live at home till you're 30?
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:15:46 AM EDT
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Median... (number right in the middle between the highest number and the lowest number)

Here is where we learn how Statistics are made to say whatever the fuck you want them to.

Mean or "Average" is the number they should be seeking.

Yes of course some billionaires kid will have a $20k a month rent, and there will be far more people paying $200 rent.

They need to take into account many their are of each type of rent in the sample group.

You wouldn't then say holy shit this is why they can't pay for things, they are paying a median of $10,100 a month. No b/c only one asshole pays 20k a month, where as there are thousands that pay $200.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:27:48 AM EDT
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I pay a hair over $2000 for rent in a building with controlled access, valet parking, 24 hour security and concierge.

I'd like to see what $8,000/mo gets you. Handjobs in the elevator?
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:46:39 AM EDT
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I pay a hair over $2000 for rent in a building with controlled access, valet parking, 24 hour security and concierge.

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Would you like a garage?

Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:46:47 AM EDT
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OP likes misleading thread titles.

By the time Millennials are 30, they’re expected to spend about $93,000 on rent.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/real-estate/2018/03/30/you-could-spend-97-k-rent-before-you-turn-30/468889002/
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:50:50 AM EDT
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As has probably been said...the issue is they want the lifestyle they have with their parents right out the gate. I remember eating Tuna Helper without Tuna helper because it was cheap. Now I do not eat that way but the late 80's were a long time ago.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 7:52:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:03:02 AM EDT
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They need to remove the top 5 most expensive cities like NYC, San Francisco, etc.
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Over $8k a month in RENT? Are they smoking crack?
They need to remove the top 5 most expensive cities like NYC, San Francisco, etc.
Or not because that number is fake news to begin with.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:08:07 AM EDT
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$100k over 8 years (since with college & loan debts, it's unwise to even think about house & kids until you're about 30 anymore, right?)

That comes to about ~1000$/month, which is about right for what I see where there are jobs to be had

Average wages are around $45k, so that means rent is likely right around 1/3 of your income, aka the absolute maximum you should possibly budget for a *mortgage* at that income level.

Except it's not a mortgage, and none of that money accumulates.

I'll bet nowhere in this sad sack article, do they mention how new apartment construction is heavily prioritized to Old Folks' homes, and subsidized housing.  I've seen this same pattern everywhere I've lived that had new construction going on.  Granny & the state are more profitable than young earners starting out, so fuck 'em.

Is it any wonder it is 1) expensive, and 2) difficult to find a rental if you aren't sitting on a lifetime of savings or a ward of the state (or both, via Social Security)?

I think it portends true economic hardship within a generation; losing the oportunity to build equity means losing the opportunity to pass on generational wealth, and that spells very rapid economic backsliding for a whole lot of people.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:12:26 AM EDT
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I lived in a flat in London, and my rent was the equivalent of $9000.00 per year.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:13:48 AM EDT
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The real story...

Rent Cafe's report found that younger Millennials are paying a median rent total of $97,400 in 2017 dollars between the ages of 22 and 29, and those who are now 30 paid a median rent total of $93,400 in that eight-year span.
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About $1159/MO in rent

A.W.D.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:14:51 AM EDT
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Moms are charging that much for the basement?
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:14:51 AM EDT
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I employ three millennials. Out of them, one is buying a home with her boyfriend - they won’t marry and it’s grossly out of their price range. She currently lives at home with mom and dad and dresses to the “9’s” every day, drives a $60K car. The other bought a piece of shit townhome for about $500K with his nurse wife. They are on their Afro divorce after about a year because she spends money like her wealthy dad is paying the bill. Husband is overpaid and living check to check with no savings or participation in our retirement program. They own three cars and three motorbikes. The last one is single, lives with mom and dad and drives an Audi A8. Dresses from Armani and the like and gets a weekly beard trim and haircut from two different boutiques.

They all have the new IPhone X, the highest end Apple products and take vacations quarterly, excluding weekend trips. One had a share plan on a private jet for a white.

At the end of the day, they have shown to have shit work ethic and want to live a baller lifestyle. As a partner, it saddens me because literally only one third of them even understands the time it takes to rise to a professional level, but all three live like they’re already there. Frankly, I’d love to see their credit reports.
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:18:52 AM EDT
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y'all are fucking slacking.

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Ya know, I never noticed it before

But that guy has a mullet
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:22:43 AM EDT
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live with in ypur means

I thought most melinials   lived with their parents moma & dad must be dicks
Link Posted: 5/15/2018 8:28:46 AM EDT
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I lived in a flat in London, and my rent was the equivalent of $9000.00 per year.
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That's why we have apartments instead of flats; they're cheaper
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