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Posted: 2/13/2019 8:58:50 AM EDT
[#1]
Here's 1B for the wall and 13B for new social welfare programs. These programs will help those whose lives have been negatively impacted by drugs....
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:01:12 AM EDT
[#2]
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The US is not holding the money. The money is hidden, off the books, and the US will never see any significant amount of it, ever. Trump isn’t going to lock-down the border, ever. Trump hires illegals at his hotels and properties. Trump said what he needed to say about border security to get elected. It's like watching a fucking tennis match. I'm getting whiplash just watching that asshole |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:04:17 AM EDT
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If Chapo can come up with 5 billion dollars cash to build the wall, and build it with those funds- Chapo should be released from prison upon completion of the wall.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:05:07 AM EDT
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Well, that would at least be one Mexican paying for it. :) 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:06:34 AM EDT
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I want the wall and everything but all that “free money” should go toward our debt. Gotta start paying it down sometime. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:07:39 AM EDT
[#6]
GoFundMe: 100% funded
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:09:19 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok mitt. 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:11:58 AM EDT
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Did I miss the memo about a new intentional misspelling? Also, this sounds like a good way to get Mexico to pay for the wall. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fingers crossed, but not holding my breathe. Quoted:
Not holding my breathe but would like to see it happen. Also, this sounds like a good way to get Mexico to pay for the wall. 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:25:54 AM EDT
[#9]
The government will find a "way" to build the Wall and repatriate millions of people back to Mexico, or the ethnic nature of politics will yield indisputable power to the Democrats and cause all American citizens to lose our rights.
Quote HistoryMerrell: Trade Hawaii to the Chicoms for Taiwan. edit let me complete that thought I had 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:26:21 AM EDT
[#10]
If funds are collected the money is deposited in the treasury.
The only constitutional way to get money from the treasury is through an appropriation passed by Congress. No one in the leadership of Congress wants an effective barrier on the border. No effective barrier will be built. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:33:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:38:07 AM EDT
[#12]
Those assets are seized by the department of justice.
An executive agency. Would the president have final say in what would happen with the money? |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:40:55 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You must be fucking stupid... 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:41:23 AM EDT
[#14]
There will be no wall.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:47:03 AM EDT
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Trade Hawaii to the Chicoms for Taiwan. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hawaii judge in 3.2.1 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:48:01 AM EDT
[#16]
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The US is not holding the money. The money is hidden, off the books, and the US will never see any significant amount of it, ever. Trump isn’t going to lock-down the border, ever. Trump hires illegals at his hotels and properties. Trump said what he needed to say about border security to get elected. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:50:09 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Second, then move Naval/Marine assets to Wake/Midway. Enjoy your new commie overlords, Hawaii. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 9:52:58 AM EDT
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There will be no wall. 
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:00:25 AM EDT
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Politicians never say things just to get elected. You know, like Mitt running to the left in Massachusetts, then back to the right for President, and now back to the left as a Senator from Utah. It's like watching a fucking tennis match. I'm getting whiplash just watching that asshole Lol, rofl. Trump Corp imports foreign labor? It’s Romneys fault! Trump Corp hires illegal immigrants? Blame Romney! Trump isn’t going to force Mexico to pay for a border wall, or defend gun rights, or balance the budget? It’s all Romney’s fault, somehow. Trumps, “take the guns first,” “pathway to citizenship,” followers have only a few defenses for Trumps broken promises... Blame Romney. Move the goal posts. Lie, excuse, and pass the blame. That is pretty much all you can do... |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:00:52 AM EDT
[#20]
Boy, there's gonna be some pissed off Americans getting evicted from all the homes and condos by the beach chappo funded and built.
I bet the guy owns the majority of the hotels as well. He is also rumored to own a chain of large Mexican grocery stores in the US. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:01:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:02:21 AM EDT
[#22]
Oops
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:07:15 AM EDT
[#23]
Endless appeals will probably hold that up for a decade.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:08:17 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, rofl. The world record flip-flipper is, “take the guns first,” Trump. Lol, rofl. Trump Corp imports foreign labor? It’s Romneys fault! Trump Corp hires illegal immigrants? Blame Romney! Trump isn’t going to force Mexico to pay for a border wall, or defend gun rights, or balance the budget? It’s all Romney’s fault, somehow. Trumps, “take the guns first,” “pathway to citizenship,” followers have only a few defenses for Trumps broken promises... Blame Romney. Move the goal posts. Lie, excuse, and pass the blame. That is pretty much all you can do... Why are you still criticizing him for that considering you think a wall is stupid in the first place? |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:11:08 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, rofl. The world record flip-flipper is, “take the guns first,” Trump. Lol, rofl. Trump Corp imports foreign labor? It’s Romneys fault! Trump Corp hires illegal immigrants? Blame Romney! Trump isn’t going to force Mexico to pay for a border wall, or defend gun rights, or balance the budget? It’s all Romney’s fault, somehow. Trumps, “take the guns first,” “pathway to citizenship,” followers have only a few defenses for Trumps broken promises... Blame Romney. Move the goal posts. Lie, excuse, and pass the blame. That is pretty much all you can do... What state will Romney be from next? Let's see, Michigan when daddy was governor, than Mass, now Utah. Maybe Idaho next? Who knows, really. Nevada maybe? Romney is a politician through and through. And that's not a compliment by any means. If his lips are moving, he's lying about something. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:11:10 AM EDT
[#26]
Did Chapo really say that he had paid billions in bribes to U.S. politicians? I keep seeing that on Facebook, but nowhere else. I'm sure he did pay plenty, just don't know if he admitted it in court.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:16:22 AM EDT
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Is the cartel that El Chapo ran dead and gone or is it still up and running under new management?
Because I suspect there is a power vacuum being filled and lower level people who know where stuff is hidden loading sacks of cash in their cars, draining secret accounts and heading for the hills. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:20:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Use drug money to save America from more drug smuggling
good plan justice If the democrats and republicans loved our country they would be demanding trillions of dollars for border security instead of fighting against border security tooth and nail traitors every single one of them imo |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:20:39 AM EDT
[#29]
Hold on, let me do the math on this: US gov taxes its citizens (then won't fund a wall) but doles out the money to poor people. Poor people use that money to buy drugs. Then the US gov goes through a lengthy legal process to seize what drug money is left after El Chapo uses it on hookers and ATF guns. Then the US hails it as a clever way to fund the wall.
That about right? |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:21:53 AM EDT
[#30]
I'm sure the Dems will sue to give it to the Iranians.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:25:46 AM EDT
[#31]
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Seems only fair. Better than Democrats giving it to the FSA... |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:28:32 AM EDT
[#32]
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There's a structure on the border. It's called a wall. https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.10/article/5bd4347ddda4c8781b8b4603.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There will be no wall. https://cdni.rt.com/files/2018.10/article/5bd4347ddda4c8781b8b4603.JPG |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:30:02 AM EDT
[#33]
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Those assets are seized by the department of justice. An executive agency. Would the president have final say in what would happen with the money? ETA: See the "Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984" for an idea of what DOJ can used seized funds for. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:34:16 AM EDT
[#34]
"Criminal asset seizures are NOT Trump's slush fund for his vanity projects" - Dem screeching.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:37:27 AM EDT
[#35]
Sounds like a typical government program.
1. Potheads provide cash to fund import of weed/drugs, El Chapo collects cash. 2. Feds arrest El Chapo, use cash to fund wall to prevent import of weed/drugs. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:39:21 AM EDT
[#36]
Ted Cruz went to some sort of "school" that teaches "law", right?
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:39:46 AM EDT
[#37]
They won't. The argument will be made that these seizures always go to law enforcement programs and they rely on it. So if Trump takes it he will be "stealing from law enforcement" and hampering "efforts against crime" or some bullshit.
And my "law enforcement programs" I mean fake programs made up with friends and family put in as managers that draw massive salaries. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:40:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. He'd be limited by what Congress has authorized the DOJ to spend the money on when it comes to seized funds. ETA: See the "Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984" for an idea of what DOJ can used seized funds for. It's a start. Do you think the talking heads at CNN and MSNBC would go along with that? Or would they come up with more objections you can parrot here? |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:40:32 AM EDT
[#39]
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Sounds like a typical government program. 1. Potheads provide cash to fund import of weed/drugs, El Chapo collects cash. 2. Feds arrest El Chapo, use cash to fund wall to prevent import of weed/drugs.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:42:05 AM EDT
[#40]
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Ok, so he buys more beds to house the criminals coming over our borders illegally, hires more employees, builds more drones, buys more equipment for the employees. It's a start. Do you think the talking heads at CNN and MSNBC would go along with that? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No. He'd be limited by what Congress has authorized the DOJ to spend the money on when it comes to seized funds. ETA: See the "Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984" for an idea of what DOJ can used seized funds for. It's a start. Do you think the talking heads at CNN and MSNBC would go along with that? Also he can't spend more than 500K on any one project without notifying Congress first... |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:42:55 AM EDT
[#41]
$14 BILLION. Holy shit I'm in the wrong business I should have become a drug lord.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:44:02 AM EDT
[#42]
The way I heard it is that Cruz is sponsoring legislation to make this happen.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:46:40 AM EDT
[#43]
It would appear that a lot of people miss getting their asses nibbled and bitten by democrats and are complaining about the wins - large and small. Let hardship harden you instead of becoming another broken soul.
STFU and MAGA on! |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:47:42 AM EDT
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You must be fucking stupid... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hawaii judge in 3.2.1 There's no way in hell that The Chicoms would be dense enough to fall for that loppsided deal. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:49:24 AM EDT
[#45]
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.. Also he can't spend more than 500K on any one project without notifying Congress first... |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:50:13 AM EDT
[#46]
No one will see a dime of that money.
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:52:06 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Of all the things you listed it appears that "buys more equipment" would be allowed. That's basically it. Also he can't spend more than 500K on any one project without notifying Congress first... He can probably buy more beds for detention purposes...…...at the very least the AG can say all these funds are going to be used to go after drug smuggling. Drones are aircraft aren't they? If so, they can be purchased and used for finding drug traffickers. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:52:17 AM EDT
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If that's the only requirement, then Trump can notify Congress and then spend the ~$14B. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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.. Also he can't spend more than 500K on any one project without notifying Congress first... The law specifically lists what kind of items the DOJ can spend the funds on. It basically breaks down to law enforcement equipment, overtime pay and training for state/local law enforcement and administrative costs to run the seizure fund. That's more or less it. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:52:37 AM EDT
[#49]
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No one will see a dime of that money. |
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Posted: 2/13/2019 10:52:44 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
Those assets are seized by the department of justice. An executive agency. Would the president have final say in what would happen with the money? |
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