Are you quite sure their shows are currently taking place outside? The 15 July show looks like it was indoors to me.

Oh, so the pictures you posted were fake but they have a website? You expect us to believe everything you say  because only half of it was a lie?

Really? You realize the rest of society doesn't stop right? There's still teachers teaching kids, fireman putting out fires, police patrolling, road workers repairing etc... all of them... and that's before the soldiers coming back for r&r.

This thread is just the usual rage bait.

Todays obvious observation…. The gullibility of the average ARFCOMER and his willingness to be influenced by propaganda (any and all) is disheartening and hilarious at the same time. I’m fairly certain some of y’all have either no capacity for independent thought or zero live experience outside of the county you were born and raised in. That is all. Continue with your regularly scheduled programming.

I think the people who read these threads definitely have a strong opinion on the subject of Ukraine.

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Oh, bullshit.  I fucked up looking for pics online because I couldn't get their video off their website to post in the thread.  My fault for not vetting an "Ibiza" picture from another resort with the same name, however, they looked similar enough to the video on their website that I sincerely thought they were the same place.  REgardless, their website does show videos of parties outside at night with fireworks and lightshows and I posted that as well, as you can clearly see, in the same post.  No intentional deception here, otherwise why would I have posted the link to their actual website if I was intentionally trying to pass false information?

The D stands for dishonesty.



Might want to check on that. How will Russia get to them when they are on the defensive? You're putting a lot of assumptions into their combat power when they are fielding tanks I would buy off facebook marketplace


When Will Russia get to Odesa, a city they claim is "Russian" especially when they have lost 5 major surface vessels since the start of the 3 day land war when other pro-Russians claim Ukraine is "landlocked"?

@jlaudio




So all beaches were shut down?

I like how you say "East coast beaches". Well, I took geography in college and I understand that the USA has beaches on the East, south, and West coast (Oceanic atleast). Were they all shut down at all times even during the day?

Did other forms of leisure cease during this time?

About Scott ritter...

Why aren't you capable of answering the question? I get it, it's hard. And by the way

It is a serious post.

The one goal Russia was able to achieve faces being...drum roll...faded away.

/oh yeah.jpg

You posted this:

"Ukraine has to get to Crimea first, lol. That doesn't seem to be going well for them."

The conditions for a Ukrainian victory have already been met. Russia was defeated in their attempts to take all of Ukraine. As I said, when the AFU breaks the landbridge Russia just traded trillions in economic, military, and other assets including national pride to pick up a few extra parcels of land next to the land it already owned.

As Prighozin said, Ukraine is more powerful now and more anti-Russian than before. In 2014 in Ukraine few people wanted to join Nato. Now everyone wants to join Nato.

Getting a dose of reality wakes people up to that fact.




The D stands for dishonesty.



Might want to check on that. How will Russia get to them when they are on the defensive? You're putting a lot of assumptions into their combat power when they are fielding tanks I would buy off facebook marketplace


When Will Russia get to Odesa, a city they claim is "Russian"?

@jlaudio



So all beaches were shut down?

I like how you say "East coast beaches". Well, I took geography in college and I understand that the USA has beaches on the East, south, and West coast (Oceanic atleast). Were they all shut down at all times even during the day?

Did other forms of leisure cease during this time?


The USA had plenty of leisure opportunities during WW2 and we were directly attacked in America numerous times.

It's only bad if you buy into the fact that people with 2 brain cells will think a nation of 43 million won't have industries running in the background of the war or how large geographically Ukraine is.

Lviv catches missiles rarely.  Chasiv Yar and Dnipro are far closer and see more Mopeds and PGMs than others do.



I remember Branch covidians shouting how much I loved people dying and going on ventilators because I refused to get the clot shot.



Let me guess...safe and effective?



There are people here who are actively in the fight. I won't drop names






I say month and base that upon having seen a lot of the anti-Ukraine threads.



@tuco22

I'm absolutely devastated. Truly, I tell you.

I'll never recover.



Imagine this guy flipping off Biden and Putin on the same day.

By the way, Putin's not exactly tall either. I'm the runt of my family and I tower over Putin (For example, I'm 5-11 and Putin is 5-6).

They are going to need to re-populate Ukraine and that beach club is doing all they can to help.

Do you know the dates of those videos? No? Is it just more bullshit you’re posting? You have a credibility problem. Don’t expect me to take your word for it.

lots of Dudes that could kill Orcs

What, that Ukrainian IO is mostly targeted at US audiences, and includes oversights, mistruths and outright lies?

I mean, they are doing the IO necessary to achieve their end state, and they join plenty of other nations in this regard.

Did you read the point that it was the "Ibiza Club" in Odessa? I don't know the last time you've attended such a function in Western Europe, but they aren't that pasty.

Again, I'm sure there night clubs all over during every war. The optics of this are terrible, but that's what it is. The correct answer is building the policy case for US tax dollars and irreplaceable national assets being gifted, not to plug your ears to unpleasant realities.

UKR Pensions likely have better funding than ours, but what's a couple of billion?

Go to the Ukrainian resort website and you will see he is not lying.

I should leave my U S of A flagged mega mug at home when I go to the Caribbean or to Mexico, or Canada. Wouldnt want to mislead anyone.

The intrusive "yes" makes you sound like the Big Lebowski.

Meanwhile, I think what is instructive is people going to bat for a obvious IO loss. It shows we've past the point where any meaningful policy can be debated, and we're solidly in what the Russians describe as "reflexive control."

I think the tweet has more legs than that. There is the fact that I'd fact check the continuation of a blue colored sky with most of the Ukie partisans at this point. Is it because I think they are bad Americans or stupid? Hardly, to either. Actually the opposite. I think most are trying to be well-informed Americans. However....

What I do think is that they've failed to understand, or don't want to understand, or frankly too generous and big hearted to get is what should be obvious about our relationship with Ukraine, namely that its a sponsor-proxy relationship at this point. Now, do I think our Expert Class even understands it those terms? No, no I do not. There is no evidence in play for that. Do I think the Ukrainians understand that dynamic and are trying to flip the script for their own ends? Yes.

I work with a bunch of Ukrainians, including some younger guys (mid 20s and up). In their city the military recruiters walk the streets/malls/gyms/cafes looking for military aged males. If a recruiter talks to them then they are handed a draft card, and they must report to a physician for a medical exam. If they pass the exam, they are on the list for service at some point, depending on age/experience/family etc. Most of the guys I work with have done the exam and are on the list. From what they tell me Ukraine has a big logistics problem -- lots of people in the pool ready to be called up but not enough capacity to train them. We had one guy on the team get called up last month and he did his medical exam last year.

What you see in those tweets could be any number of things: guys who are on the list but haven't been called up yet, rich kids partying it up because daddy bribed the local recruiting office, people on R&R, etc. IMO those tweets don't paint an accurate picture of the average Ukrainian experience, most of the guys I work with had a really shitty winter (no power) and barely get any sleep due to nightly air raid/rocket alarms.

That's likely a fair assessment, but the reality is that these kinds of issues are legit at week 6 or even month 6 of the war, but inexcusable at this point. If the UAF needs manpower, there is not much reason it shouldn't be in some usable fashion, and sitting with a medical exam one year old while waiting for a basic training date isn't a solution.

Their resolve is as big as the pockets of others they can pick to virtue signal with - lib101.  

Look at the views, Boomer.

Don't you understand it now, Doc? They pick apart every statement and look for things to point out in the effort to label your whole comment dishonest and untruthful.

Whether that picture is from Ibiza or Odessa doesn't change the fact that a lot of able bodied men were partying and chasing tail at a beach club while their country is under occupation. In a war that we have been told is life or death, "democracy" vs fascism, it doesn't seem to be the case for Ukrainians that actually live there!

Now pass me a beer please?




It's not a serious post, and your further walls of text keep changing the topic (who the fuck is scott ritter?) and talking about everything but the fact that able bodied Ukrainian men are partying at a beach club and chasing tail. Ukraine does need to get to Crimea first. The current maps show they are many many KM's away from Crimea. Make it make sense! LOL

If the conditions for victory have been met, as you say, well it looks like Ukraine can pack it in now. That means we can stop sending billions to them too, right? According to you Ukraine has already won.

Z posted on Twitter his displeasure of all this partying.

Your post is irrelevant and not on topic for what we are discussing here. Keep your propaganda out of here.

It's unbelievable and devastating for the Slava Ukraini narrative that abled bodied men would rather be partying at a beach club and chasing tail versus fighting for their own country.

Whoopsie poopsie.

There sure is a whole lot of falsely attributed/edited photos and videos in this thread.  

Weird.   Almost like it was deliberate.

You posted it!

Here I'll post it again since you still appear to struggle with reading comprehension. I'll make it big, too!



Heck, there is even video! Multiple of them!

It's shocking and telling that this doesn't bother you.




Oh man, the irony of this statement is wayyyy over the top. In fact there is a what, 4,600+ page thread of propaganda?

It's standard formula for GD, for sure.

I do remember more than a few USO films we put out during the second war to end all wars.
Besides it is nice to see attractive young woman having a good time instead of the blue and orange haired land whales screeching like harpies we have here.

It's quite apparent what your schtick and other Uke orc supporters is here. You're trying to frame the entire thing/post/issue as a lie when you know it's not.

It's dishonest, shameful, and a weak tactic. Everyone can see right through it.

It's unbelievable and devastating for the Slava Ukraini narrative that abled bodied men would rather be partying at a beach club and chasing tail versus fighting for their own country. We should stop sending them money, considering the majority of Americans and GD no longer support sending aid to Ukraine.

You are LITTERALLY insisting that people dismiss factual information because of one link, and declaring the entire fact as a lie.

It’s shameful, dishonest, and weak.

We can see right through you and your tactics.

What have you to say about the videos of people at the Odessa beach club?

Please, tell us more about propaganda! You seem to be the resident expert here.

If you say so. Your tactics here are easy to see.

I’ll answer your question after you answer the one I asked first. What do you think about the videos of able bodied Ukrainians partying at a beach club and chasing tail?

It’s okay, you can admit it.

Why go to Odesa? Even an Arfcomer could Jody like a mf’er on the beaches of Sochi; lots of newly single ladies there.

Hope you’re not watching on your USMC.gov computer. Big brother is always watching. You gonna get double cyber awareness training next month.

Dude, I’d love to know how many people knowingly answer the question that way, knowing it’s an incorrect answer. I’d guess 90%

The mental gymnastics this guy puts himself through, just watching it hurts my neck.