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Posted: 2/13/2023 9:54:55 PM EDT
 Happened back in December. "A United Airlines flight dove 1,400 feet in under a minute shortly after taking off from Hawaii and came within just 775 feet of the Pacific Ocean en route to San Francisco. Flight 1722 took off from Kahului Airport in Maui at 2:49 p.m. Dec. 18 during stormy weather and reached an altitude of about 2,200 feet before taking the terrifying plunge, the Air Current reported, citing data from FlightRadar24. No one was injured during the incident, which has not been previously reported. The Boeing 777-200 reached a descent rate of almost 8,600 feet per minute before the crew regained control when the plane was a mere 775 feet above the water, according to the outlet." https://nypost.com/2023/02/13/united-flight-from-hawaii-came-within-775-feet-of-plunging-into-pacific-ocean/ |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 9:56:44 PM EDT
[#1]
Not great, not terrible.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 9:59:25 PM EDT
[#2]
 Airplane! (6/10) Movie CLIP - Get a Hold of Yourself! (1980) HD |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:00:02 PM EDT
[#3]
 Airplane! (1980) - Otto Pilot gets a BJ I believe this really happened on the flight. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:00:11 PM EDT
[#4]
Good it didn't go into the drink.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:03:26 PM EDT
[#5]
 UAL 1722 Descent on Takeoff 18 Dec 2022 |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:03:28 PM EDT
[#6]
Microburst?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:04:49 PM EDT
[#7]
that'll wake you up.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:08:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Scary if you’d been on the ride and knew what was happening.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:08:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Microburst? Radar is supposed to be able to pick those up. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:09:05 PM EDT
[#10]
Pilots better hope there was documented weather that could have caused that.
Pilot flying should have been on instruments but both should have noticed the rapid loss of positive rate. If they didn't, their passengers sure fucking did lol. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:09:55 PM EDT
[#11]
Runaway elevator trim?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:10:15 PM EDT
[#12]
That'll make your butt pucker up.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:14:25 PM EDT
[#13]
All the good Airplane! Memes have been used up.
That would’ve been 10 pucker factor. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:15:12 PM EDT
[#14]
Get used to this…and that near miss in Austin.
Standards are dropping in everything from lawyers and doctors to special forces. Have to assume no industry is immune. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:15:14 PM EDT
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Being blown out of the air is one thing. You’re there then not.
The feeling of falling down an elevator shaft for minutes until you’re gone is another. You know what’s happening and know there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Terrible |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:15:17 PM EDT
[#16]
From -g to 2.7g. Sounds like a hell of a ride.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:16:52 PM EDT
[#17]
That’s comforting.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:19:19 PM EDT
[#18]
How can you lose situational awareness like that? Most of these planes “fly themselves”. Wouldn’t alarms be screaming “we are going down when we should be ping up” or something?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:19:56 PM EDT
[#19]
That’s really bad…
I’m a helo guy not an airplane guy, subscribed to see if our airline friends have any insight beyond just the typical spatial D type stuff. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:21:16 PM EDT
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Oh right a 777-200 fell at 8,000+ FPS from 2300’ AGL and recovered. Riiight. Plus none of the passengers told anyone.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:22:32 PM EDT
[#21]
This was really kept quiet.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:24:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How can you lose situational awareness like that? Most of these planes “fly themselves”. Wouldn’t alarms be screaming “we are going down when we should be ping up” or something? I don't think it was awareness, I think it was downdraft. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:27:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This was really kept quiet. Before disembarking: "Here’s your bag of cash and NDA to sign. Have a nice day!" |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:28:14 PM EDT
[#24]
Almost JFK JR'd that thing
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:29:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think it was awareness, I think it was downdraft. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How can you lose situational awareness like that? Most of these planes “fly themselves”. Wouldn’t alarms be screaming “we are going down when we should be ping up” or something? I don't think it was awareness, I think it was downdraft. I wonder what the AOA was through the event. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:34:50 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Being blown out of the air is one thing. You’re there then not. The feeling of falling down an elevator shaft for minutes until you’re gone is another. You know what’s happening and know there is nothing you can do to prevent it. Terrible They were at -8600 feet per minute from 2200 feet. They weren't feeling it for minutes no matter what. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:36:26 PM EDT
[#27]
I’d like to hear the CVR on that one!
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:38:35 PM EDT
[#28]
It was aliens.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:40:43 PM EDT
[#29]
If you're on that plane that is pants-shitting time.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:44:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:50:22 PM EDT
[#31]
Seems like a bad time to quit sniffing glue.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:51:10 PM EDT
[#32]
They fell for about 10 seconds.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 10:58:32 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: From -g to 2.7g. Sounds like a hell of a ride. And it happened over a month ago. And nobody onboard said a word about it at the time. No vertical video. No tweets. No interviews at the destination from panicked passengers. Three G’s is no shit. People don’t just roll with it like light turbulence. Why didn’t anyone say anything? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:03:43 PM EDT
[#34]
Spitballing here… Did they accidentally spin the baro knob instead of the heading or altitude knob? That might have given a false altimeter reading to ADS-B.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:06:57 PM EDT
[#35]
From the original article:
A spokesman for United confirmed the incident and said after landing at SFO, a formal internal safety report was filed by the pilots and the aircraft was inspected before its next flight. “??United then closely coordinated with the FAA and ALPA on an investigation that ultimately resulted in the pilots receiving additional training. Safety remains our highest priority,” the spokesman said. After publication United told TAC that the incident was not related to any fault with the aircraft. The FAA in a statement said the United flight crew reported the incident to the FAA as part of its voluntary safety reporting program. A spokesman said, “The agency reviewed the incident and took appropriate action” without elaborating. The United spokesman added that the pilots “fully cooperated with the investigation and their training program is ongoing.” The pilots involved had a combined 25,000 hours of total flying time, but the airline declined to say which crew member was flying at the time and how much of that experience was on the 777 for each member of the flight crew. Anyone know if the 777 has an MCAS system like like 737 Max? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:07:52 PM EDT
[#36]
I saw a 777 Capt in a You Tube post, said something to the effect of "this looks like a stall upon slat retraction during climbout......the margin is only 5kts".
I know we have some Airline Captains here, would like to know their thoughts. Maybe another MCAS type scenario? |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:08:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Three G’s is no shit. People don’t just roll with it like light turbulence. Why didn’t anyone say anything? There's got to be more to this story! |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:09:02 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Microburst? Microfuckup. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:09:52 PM EDT
[#39]
I'd love to know more about this. Why did the flight continue on as if nothing happened?
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:12:10 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This was really kept quiet. Scarily |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:13:01 PM EDT
[#41]
Misses and I flew back from our honeymoon in Puerto Vallarta in a terrible lightning/thunder storm.
Out of nowhere, the lights cuts off in the cabin and the plane suddenly “dropped” (for lack of a better term) for just a second. Then everything went back to normal. I sprayed shit all over myself and my new bride. That’s how I know she really loves me! |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:15:57 PM EDT
[#42]
TheFlightChannel on YT recreates airline incidents using the latest Flight Simulator and the public data from the crashes including cockpit recordings and audio from flights. Its mind boggling how many of those involve pilots who seem to have no idea they are rapidly descending or ignoring audio warnings due to be totally focused on something else.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:25:18 PM EDT
[#43]
Happened to my cousin Walter once.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:32:46 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:36:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Yikes. I don't think this was on the local news.
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:41:11 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh right a 777-200 fell at 8,000+ FPS from 2300’ AGL and recovered. Riiight. Plus none of the passengers told anyone. FPM, not FPS. Still quite a decent rate, but but not faster than a speeding bullet. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:55:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh right a 777-200 fell at 8,000+ FPS from 2300’ AGL and recovered. Riiight. Plus none of the passengers told anyone. I'm with this guy. |
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Posted: 2/13/2023 11:59:43 PM EDT
[#48]
Beep! Terrain! Terrain!
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Posted: 2/14/2023 12:02:31 AM EDT
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Passenger onboard terrifying United Airlines flight that nose-dived 1,400ft during epic storm describes people 'screaming' as plane came within FIVE SECONDS of hitting Pacific Ocean: 'You’re gripping the seat and praying under your breath'
 Providing his personal account of the experience - which went unreported until this week - the father-of-two told CNN he initially thought the turbulence was normal, but as other passengers' screams became more pronounced, he soon realized something was wrong. 'It felt like you were climbing to the top of a roller coaster,' Williams said, telling the outlet the he noticed the plane had dipped at a ‘concerning rate’ for several seconds. 'It was at that point,' he said. It was at this point, Williams said, that passengers who at first tried to remain calm began to panic. 'There were a number of screams on the plane,' the Columbus, Ohio, realtor recalled. 'Everybody knew that something was out of the ordinary, or at least that this was not normal.' Still, the dutiful dad - scared-stiff himself - tried to keep his cool in the presence of his wide and children. 'You’re trying your best to maintain your composure – there’s obviously kids on the flight. nobody really knows what’s going on,' Williams said, before adding, 'but at the same time, you’re concerned. You don’t know if this is an issue.' 'It was certainly out of the ordinary.' About ten minutes later, and there was an announcement that assured the passengers the event had passed. 'Someone from the cockpit got on the intercom and said, "Alright, folks, you probably felt a couple G’s on that one, but everything’s gonna be OK,' said Williams, who is the first passenger to provide a personal account of the incident. '"We’re gonna be alright,"' Williams credited the United staffer saying. Continued |
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Posted: 2/14/2023 12:08:22 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw a 777 Capt in a You Tube post, said something to the effect of "this looks like a stall upon slat retraction during climbout......the margin is only 5kts". I know we have some Airline Captains here, would like to know their thoughts. Maybe another MCAS type scenario? 
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