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Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:42:37 AM EDT
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That makes the "shoot, shovel, shut up" sequence just a little bit easier to execute.  




 
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:43:39 AM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Great post.  Just saying thanks.


Same here –– thanks for posting.

I was really surprised to see the Renaisance Hi Power in the mix.

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:46:20 AM EDT
[#3]





Don't tempt me. I could put an eye out with this thing.
It could break the skin...oh yeah, it could break the skin, lodge in there and cause a very nasty infection.



 
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:46:50 AM EDT
[#4]
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it's a real fucking shame that we have all the gun laws that we do here in the "land of the free", but it's an even bigger shame that our men and women fighting for us aren't allowed to keep whatever the fuck they want.

you want that sterling? why not. you earned it! and here's four more for your troubles...




Agreed.  Long tradition of Western Armies since the Roman Empire was for soldiers to take captured arms as trophies.  I don't see why we should stop such a long, fine tradition.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:47:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:56:19 AM EDT
[#6]
Sweet, they even have the Storm Trooper gun from Star Wars!
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 10:58:06 AM EDT
[#7]
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:



The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:03:20 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.



Joe, that makes me very sad.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:03:37 AM EDT
[#9]
That's a shame
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:07:05 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.



I felt a small piece of my soul die just looking at that photo.

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:09:04 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.





OMG thats thermite on a DShk....
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:09:17 AM EDT
[#12]


That looks like a cut down Dominican San Christobal Submachine gun or a Hungarian Danuvia 39 !!???





Holy Shit !!




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristobal_(carbine)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuvia_43M
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:10:15 AM EDT
[#13]
cool post
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:13:39 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Oh man... what I wouldn't give for that Polish Pm-63.


Yup...

There also looks to be an origional AG42 (non B conversion) in the photo with the Beretta SMG.  I've never seen a Hakim with that wood, although one would be much more likely to show up in Iraq than an AG42.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:13:43 AM EDT
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http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg123/adam21avenger/P5160103_SKS_pistol.jpg



That looks like a cut down  Dominican San Christobal Submachine gun or a Hungarian Danuvia 39 !!???


Holy Shit !!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristobal_(carbine)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuvia_43M


Kind of looks like a SKS BUBBA Pistol job to me...

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:18:10 AM EDT
[#16]




Quoted:



Quoted:

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg123/adam21avenger/P5160103_SKS_pistol.jpg
That looks like a cut down Dominican San Christobal Submachine gun or a Hungarian Danuvia 39 !!???





Holy Shit !!






http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristobal_(carbine)



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuvia_43M




Kind of looks like a SKS BUBBA Pistol job to me...





At first I thought it was an SKS too but no extended internal Mag for 7.62 x 39

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:30:26 AM EDT
[#17]


WTF????

Did they dig holes with the rifle, or shoot with the shovel?
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:31:18 AM EDT
[#18]
That isn't an SKS x39 magazine projecting from the bottom of the stock?

And isn't that an SKS retaining pin for the dust cover at the rear of the receiver (it looks like brass in the pic)?
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:32:58 AM EDT
[#19]
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On a second look through at the pictures, I'm not so sure my No4Mk1 didn't come from Iraqistan

It's dirty as fuck and looks like it was dragged through asscrackistan and back.


In the east, where the abodes lack well kept driveways for a proper battle break in look, you simply tie some rope to the gun and drag it behind a camel.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:36:02 AM EDT
[#20]




Quoted:

That isn't an SKS x39 magazine projecting from the bottom of the stock?



And isn't that an SKS retaining pin for the dust cover at the rear of the receiver (it looks like brass in the pic)?


Ok you Rat Bastards  




I am wrong you guys are correct . I did not see the the Mag with all the crap in the way.  




My search for the San Christobal continues


Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:37:48 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
cool pictures.

Imagine the cool stuff when they start confiscating guns here,,,,


             
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:50:26 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:

Quoted:
That isn't an SKS x39 magazine projecting from the bottom of the stock?

And isn't that an SKS retaining pin for the dust cover at the rear of the receiver (it looks like brass in the pic)?

Ok you Rat Bastards  

I am wrong you guys are correct . I did not see the the Mag with all the crap in the way.  

My search for the San Christobal continues


Don't feel bad.  I missed the magazine at first glance as well.  The flash kinda blends it in with the background.

BTW, good luck with that Grail quest thingy, Galahad.

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:50:34 AM EDT
[#23]




Quoted:

cool pictures.



Imagine the cool stuff when they start confiscating guns here,,,,




Funny




but




Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:53:22 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:
Me in 2004:

http://www.punk-rock.com/iraq/goldak.jpg

They wouldn't let me keep it




That wouldn't be The Rear Admiral Chuck Kubic Golden AK would it??






I was somewhat involved in that mess.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 11:57:15 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
I have to assume the SKS "pistol" is manually operated.


It certainly makes you wonder about the story behind that one.  
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:00:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Notice the AA-8 Aphid air to air missile in the cache picks next to the mines.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:03:09 PM EDT
[#27]
Didn't some one on here find a Borchardt (sp?) pistol there
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:13:25 PM EDT
[#28]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Me in 2004:



http://www.punk-rock.com/iraq/goldak.jpg



They wouldn't let me keep it

That wouldn't be The Rear Admiral Chuck Kubic Golden AK would it??
I was somewhat involved in that mess.


I doubt it. It was in Army custody in Taji. They had a ton of them.



Kubic was around in the same time frame, though.



I saw him a few months later in Baghdad.



 
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:19:16 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
Oh man... what I wouldn't give for that Polish Pm-63.


What's significant about it?
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:22:56 PM EDT
[#30]
cool pics, good thing the insurgents didn't know how much we like guns, they might have bobby trapped the cool ones in that case.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:26:13 PM EDT
[#31]
I seen a few pics where troops were holding captured M1 Garands from the iraqi insurgents.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:30:52 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.




nevermind
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:31:47 PM EDT
[#33]



Quoted:


The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.



This is the fate of all of those weapons:



http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif



The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.





Jesus, I think I just suffered 3 or 4 simultaneous heart attacks...



 
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:31:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:32:06 PM EDT
[#35]




Quoted:



Quoted:





Quoted:

How well do they inspect the mail that comes in and goes out? Does Iraq have a FedEx hub? Ship it back one piece at a time. If only America was a free country that still let men have souvineers. Hell, I'd go over there just to plunder like the generations before me have. When my family went overseas in war, if it wasn't nailed down, it was taken, and pry bars were taken to what was nailed down.


Ive heard soldiers say their mail was denied when they sent back M4 handguards and the like...good luck getting a PPSH out of there...





How far is it to the nearest place you can send a USPS International package? With all the tonnage USPS handles, there's almost no possibilty of it being inspected in any meaningful way. Maybe sniff pallets with dogs for bombs, but that's probably it. If you went around the Army's PO, I'd imagine it might not be too hard to send a gun back, especially if you took it apart and did seperate shipments, but this is pure speculation and I wouldn't dream of bringing the ATF's ire down upon myself.


There are easier ways to get stuff back that are much less likely to get caught than going through the USPS.



While I was working customs there I saw a PA-63, a .75 caliber black powder pistol, plenty of 1911s, a few Webleys, Sterlings, etc.



Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:34:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg123/adam21avenger/P5160103_SKS_pistol.jpg



That looks like a cut down Dominican San Christobal Submachine gun or a Hungarian Danuvia 39 !!???


Holy Shit !!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristobal_(carbine)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuvia_43M


Kind of looks like a SKS BUBBA Pistol job to me...


At first I thought it was an SKS too but no extended internal Mag for 7.62 x 39


You better look at the pic again because there is clearly a SKS standard mag on that weapon.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:35:20 PM EDT
[#38]

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:39:20 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
I seen a few pics where troops were holding captured M1 Garands from the iraqi insurgents.


And it's a good thing in case the insurgents had AP ammo for them.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:40:13 PM EDT
[#40]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Oh man... what I wouldn't give for that Polish Pm-63.


What's significant about it?


It's just kind of rare outside of Poland. And it's like an overgrown semi-auto handgun in operation with a reciprocating slide, instead of an internal "bolt".  It can be fired one handed like a ginormous auto pistol, or used like a SMG with the stock extended. It's also kind of unique because it has that large compensator built right into the slide, like an extended version of the Kalashnikov "slant-brake".

It's also kind of desireable because more like a traditional auto pistol, it's got lots of forged/milled parts, rather than being just a bunch of stampings. In the same way gun collectors/shooters sometimes place a premium on milled AK recievers, Garands, and the original M14's before the newer M1A's were cast recievers etc.

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg41-e.htm
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:42:05 PM EDT
[#42]


I wonder if it gets dirty enough to actually need cleaning.  

That's the first suppressed AK I've ever seen.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:43:42 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
I seen a few pics where troops were holding captured M1 Garands from the iraqi insurgents.


In a warehouse in Kabul:



Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:46:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:46:51 PM EDT
[#46]
If only every bolt action and semi auto capture were returned and sold through CMP, the war would pay for itself.
Not to mention selling AK parts, mags, etc.

Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:47:07 PM EDT
[#47]
I don't have any pictures, but the first company I worked for in Iraq had two "customized" AKMs on the wall of the company headquarters: one anodized gold and one anodized silver with mother of pearl pistol grip and handguards.

I also ran into two foreign contractors in the Green Zone in 2005 who were armed with P90s.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 12:49:46 PM EDT
[#48]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.



Omfg.
Link Posted: 7/9/2009 1:13:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
The recon team of which my son was a member had quite a 'weapons library' going back in one of their cans where they operated out of Al Asad. They began hanging them on hooks from walls. They had an early, early ArmaLite AR15, an StG44 and a nice collection of other rare weapons that they had captured. Until their LT found out about it.

This is the fate of all of those weapons:

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u127/akguynumber12/Iraq/05MeltingDownWeapons.gif

The LT wouldn't even discuss the historical significance of those weapons.







Link Posted: 7/9/2009 1:25:38 PM EDT
[#50]
My brother's MiTT team found an M-79, they were apparently able to get it added to their authorized equipment since it was "lost" US property, it came back with them on the books for their unit.  I know he asked me for help finding a firing pin after he got back, I think he finally got one through somebody in Special Forces.  He said it was fun when they took it to the range at Campbell :-)
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