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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:47:49 AM EDT
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Buy American?
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:51:26 AM EDT
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At least it is in the middle of the ocean this time, and not in people's garages.
Fires, probes, recalls: The shift to electric vehicles is costing automakers billions |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 5:18:37 PM EDT
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Anyone want an EV with a bit of smoke damage? It'll buff out.
"The ship is burning from one end to the other everything is on fire about five meters above the water line." https://gcaptain.com/felicity-ace-car-carrier-continues-to-burn-in-mid-atlantic/  |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 5:25:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy American?  |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 5:32:46 PM EDT
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I heard this morning a bunch of Lambos and Bentlys were on that ship as well. Big $$$$.
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Posted: 2/19/2022 5:43:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This shit is unbelievable We can't even make our own exploding cars, we're outsourcing it  Ford Pinto says What you talking bout Willis! |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 6:27:35 PM EDT
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Porsche, VW, Audi?
Good thing nothing of value was lost. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 6:36:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I heard this morning a bunch of Lambos and Bentlys were on that ship as well. Big $$$$. IIRC, the cargo was valued at around $250 million. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 6:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which end of that is the front? Ships are really strange looking these days. Especially those ships coming from China with shipping containers stacked like 10 stories above the deck. When real war comes someday, the entire commercial shipping fleets will be so easily taken out it won't be believed. Then the USA will devolve back to third world origins since this country depends, entirely, on overseas for products or parts of products produced here. At least GLOCK has full manufacturing here. That's something. Ship names are on each side of the bow. Ship name and city and/or country of registry are on the bow. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 6:53:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did that plenty in the 70s and 80s  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This shit is unbelievable We can't even make our own exploding cars, we're outsourcing it We did that plenty in the 70s and 80s |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 6:59:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At the bottom of the ocean? Probably not so much. Id be way more concerned about the diesel emissions from that cargo ship....because science. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 7:01:29 PM EDT
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This thread has run this long and nobody has posted the following:
 I am disappoint |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 7:08:29 PM EDT
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The E-trons have a bad rep.
EV’s are the result of forced development, not evolution. They’re not here because they are a superior product/design. They’re here because the .gov said “make them or else” (plus, .gov subsidizes them) the car companies are doing what they can to make them useful. The answer to a question nobody asked. TC |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 7:08:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone want an EV with a bit of smoke damage? It'll buff out. "The ship is burning from one end to the other everything is on fire about five meters above the water line." https://gcaptain.com/felicity-ace-car-carrier-continues-to-burn-in-mid-atlantic/ https://gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/incencio-navio-acores-3.jpg USS Bonnie Dick 2. Too soon? |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 7:22:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Buy American? https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iJEHVfv.usmw/v0/-1x-1.jpg I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 7:36:11 PM EDT
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Should have used an electric boat.....
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:01:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ship names are on each side of the bow. Ship name and city and/or country of registry are on the Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Which end of that is the front? Ships are really strange looking these days. Especially those ships coming from China with shipping containers stacked like 10 stories above the deck. When real war comes someday, the entire commercial shipping fleets will be so easily taken out it won't be believed. Then the USA will devolve back to third world origins since this country depends, entirely, on overseas for products or parts of products produced here. At least GLOCK has full manufacturing here. That's something. Ship names are on each side of the bow. Ship name and city and/or country of registry are on the FIFY |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:12:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:17:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:22:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:27:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Porsche, VW, Audi? Good thing nothing of value was lost. Payback for 5K helmets |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:41:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You better specify hit it with ordinance knowing the current state of “some” in the Navy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure they could hit it with something that'd basically leave nothing left to burn. You better specify hit it with ordinance knowing the current state of “some” in the Navy. A New Navy Captain could hit it accidentally. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:44:28 PM EDT
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30 million dollar ship with 100 million dollar cargo.
That ship has serious structural issues, I doubt it will ever see land again. Just do some searching, you will see car carriers are having lots of "unknown origin" fires in their cargo holds. The one thing they all have in common is EV vehicles and others with all these new batteries. If it keeps burning, and I dont see any way they can extinguish it, the back will break soon and it will go down like a rock. If the midship weakens enough, she will split. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:45:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  I've going to wager EV's had very little to do with this. Quote HistoryQuoted: I've going to wager EV's had very little to do with this. This comment aged really well so far. It’s funny how people can be blinded by ideology. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:49:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did that plenty in the 70s and 80s We did it in the 90’s, too, but sometimes that took an Estes rocket engine to start the party. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 8:49:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 30 million dollar ship with 100 million dollar cargo. That ship has serious structural issues, I doubt it will ever see land again. Just do some searching, you will see car carriers are having lots of "unknown origin" fires in their cargo holds. The one thing they all have in common is EV vehicles and others with all these new batteries. If it keeps burning, and I dont see any way they can extinguish it, the back will break soon and it will go down like a rock. If the midship weakens enough, she will split. Salt water and the new batteries seem to have issues. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:01:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Buy American? https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iJEHVfv.usmw/v0/-1x-1.jpg I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:06:45 PM EDT
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 Electric bus bursts into flames, sets nearby vehicles on fire in China |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:29:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? The batteries for the Bolt are made by Samsung in Worst Korea. There where/are some major quality control issues with the battery pack and they are now known to have "thermal events" |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:34:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC Chevy had to tell owners to not to park them outside Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Buy American? https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iJEHVfv.usmw/v0/-1x-1.jpg I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? Chevy had to halt Bolt production altogether, as they scrambled to find a fix. I think they are still on production hold, but I'm not 100% sure. Eta: Yup still on hold, production to restart in April. Surely they'll be totally safe this time around! |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:39:03 PM EDT
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Environmentalism: Where one cargo ship with Environmentally Friendly EV's creates more pollution that all gas powered vehicles combined.
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:40:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Buy American? https://assets.bwbx.io/images/users/iqjWHBFdfxIU/iJEHVfv.usmw/v0/-1x-1.jpg I've seen signs at parking garages in the past that say "no EVs allowed" Flew out of PWM last week and was surprised, the signs at the entrances specifically stated "Chevy Bolts are not allowed in this parking structure and must be parked in outside lot" Are the Bolts more prone to fires? They have the No Bolt signs at parking garages in Richmond, VA. Great marketing for GM. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:40:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:  |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:44:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone want an EV with a bit of smoke damage? It'll buff out. "The ship is burning from one end to the other everything is on fire about five meters above the water line." https://gcaptain.com/felicity-ace-car-carrier-continues-to-burn-in-mid-atlantic/ https://gcaptain.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/incencio-navio-acores-3.jpg That thing is toast. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You better specify hit it with ordinance knowing the current state of “some” in the Navy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure they could hit it with something that'd basically leave nothing left to burn. You better specify hit it with ordinance knowing the current state of “some” in the Navy. County or city? |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:50:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm seeing an artificial reef in the future. Or possibly a 1 million year fish kill from the EV's. 
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:53:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That thing is toast. Yep. Might as well torpedo it and quit wasting time. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:56:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least it is in the middle of the ocean this time, and not in people's garages. Fires, probes, recalls: The shift to electric vehicles is costing automakers billions Quote HistoryQuoted: At least it is in the middle of the ocean this time, and not in people's garages. Fires, probes, recalls: The shift to electric vehicles is costing automakers billions The $800 million recall covers about 69,000 of the cars globally, including nearly 51,000 in the U.S. That's $11,600 per vehicle.
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Posted: 2/19/2022 9:57:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure they could hit it with something that'd basically leave nothing left to burn. "But how will that help with salvaging more?" "Salvaging?" |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:08:05 PM EDT
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The complaint says the lead plaintiff’s 2014 Tesla Model S lost more than half of its range over just six years, dropping to the equivalent of a 144-mile range on a full charge from a 265-mile range when he first bought it. That's what is going to kill EV's.
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:14:38 PM EDT
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EV's are a bigger Scam than Covid
Our politicians are already getting rich from it and it will be a failure too... |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:15:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:17:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just do some searching, you will see car carriers are having lots of "unknown origin" fires in their cargo holds. The one thing they all have in common is EV vehicles and others with all these new batteries. Quote HistoryQuoted: Just do some searching, you will see car carriers are having lots of "unknown origin" fires in their cargo holds. The one thing they all have in common is EV vehicles and others with all these new batteries. They need to start putting in water mist fire suppression systems in the cargo holds, with IR camera detectors for rapid response. Once one of those batts goes into thermal overload about all you can do is soak up the heat to prevent collateral damage until the reaction runs its course. Quoted: Class D fires are no fucking joke especially when that class D Substance explodes when it comes into contact with water. https://www.amerex-fire.com/upl/downloads/library/29-i-need-a-class-d-extinguisher-for-lithium-ion-batteries.pdf Rechargeable Lithium-ion batteries do not have metallic lithium, are not a Class D fire, and do not explode when contacted by water. In most cases water is the best option to cool down the battery and stop the thermal overload chain reaction. Water Mist fire extinguishers were developed for, and installed on the ISS, in large part to address this hazard (as well as toxicity concerns). Last I knew, FAA training for flight attendants was to douse burning electronic devices (ie, battery fires) with water from the drink cart, in preference to using the onboard fire extinguishers for several reasons. The reason you can't put rechargeable lithium-ion batteries in checked baggage is so that they're available to extinguish if need be. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy American? And hope the train bringing them from Mexico doesn't catch fire. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:19:53 PM EDT
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3rd time this week
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:20:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or possibly a 1 million year fish kill from the EV's. Chinese tuna boats will catch/package the contaminated tuna, and sell it to Americans. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's $11,600 per vehicle. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: At least it is in the middle of the ocean this time, and not in people's garages. Fires, probes, recalls: The shift to electric vehicles is costing automakers billions The $800 million recall covers about 69,000 of the cars globally, including nearly 51,000 in the U.S. That's $11,600 per vehicle. I don't even feel bad for them. Plus I'm sure they'll pass the cost of their mistakes on to future buyers, because they always do. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 10:54:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Chinese tuna boats will catch/package the contaminated tuna, and sell it to Americans. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Or possibly a 1 million year fish kill from the EV's. Chinese tuna boats will catch/package the contaminated tuna, and sell it to Americans. Lol. They’ll sell it to anyone who will buy - they have no problem killing their countrymen. |
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Posted: 2/19/2022 11:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure they could hit it with something that'd basically leave nothing left to burn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Target practice for US Navy? I'm sure they could hit it with something that'd basically leave nothing left to burn. Like another ship? |
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Posted: 2/20/2022 12:17:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We did that plenty in the 70s and 80s Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This shit is unbelievable We can't even make our own exploding cars, we're outsourcing it We did that plenty in the 70s and 80s @AbsolutLemur 
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