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Posted: 8/16/2017 2:57:25 PM EDT
Interesting to note, he is not the frirst. Anyone know of other instructors nixing the P320 from training classes. For the full info check out his post at instagram Other guy mallets the crap out of guns, only Sig P320.  Sig P320 hammer test with Glock, HK, Ruger, Kimber... Omaha Outdoors Drop Test Other Guns None Fail Multiple Angle Drops Sig P320 hammer test with Glock, HK, Ruger, Kimber... |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:03:13 PM EDT
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Who the fuck wants to train with that douchenugget?
P320s need to be drop safe for hay bale jumping and such. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:04:05 PM EDT
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This is a huge shitshow for Sig.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 3:07:57 PM EDT
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Who the fuck wants to train with that douchenugget? P320s need to be drop safe for hay bale jumping and such. PS There are now accounts of several other incidents and possibly people injured by P320 due to their not quite drop safe status. Soooo, something to think about. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:31:24 PM EDT
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Tell it to the cop who dropped his duty belt in the parking lot. AKA as shit happens. PS There are now accounts of several other incidents and possibly people injured by P320 due to their not quite drop safe status. Soooo, something to think about. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:38:26 PM EDT
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Stupid, just a way for him to promote his useless training. Plenty of other pistols are more likely to fire if dropped, I doubt he has a list of those that he wishes to exclude.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:39:55 PM EDT
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Here for the gang bang. Good thing it isn't Harley hate day.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:42:15 PM EDT
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How progressive of him
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:44:58 PM EDT
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Stupid, just a way for him to promote his useless training. Plenty of other pistols are more likely to fire if dropped, I doubt he has a list of those that he wishes to exclude. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:46:40 PM EDT
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Stupid, just a way for him to promote his useless training. Plenty of other pistols are more likely to fire if dropped, I doubt he has a list of those that he wishes to exclude. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:51:48 PM EDT
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sorry but....who?
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:52:38 PM EDT
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How progressive of him |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:53:17 PM EDT
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Japanese Nambu, maybe...
Although you are not likely to get a lot of guys training with that one in class. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:55:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:56:13 PM EDT
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Pincus is grandstanding.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:56:58 PM EDT
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Stupid, just a way for him to promote his useless training. Plenty of other pistols are more likely to fire if dropped, I doubt he has a list of those that he wishes to exclude. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 4:57:50 PM EDT
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Can't we just stick to Civil War II, Rapture, Flag Pooping, or Tranny threads this week?
I think last week everyone said just about everything that needs to be said on this topic. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:01:36 PM EDT
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Local 3-gun match here banned them last weekend unless they where 'upgraded'. They where worried about dump buckets and such. Offered loaners to folks that still wanted to play.
I do see a lot more pistols coming out of holsters during 3gun matches vs USPSA. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:03:14 PM EDT
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His class...his rules??
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:07:05 PM EDT
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I only show up to train with a 320 or known to drop fire aftermarket trigger in a Glock,
Appendix carry, In a Serpa. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:13:24 PM EDT
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Stupid, just a way for him to promote his useless training. Plenty of other pistols are more likely to fire if dropped, I doubt he has a list of those that he wishes to exclude. 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:14:13 PM EDT
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Oh yeah I totally get that. I was just making fun of Pincus. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell it to the cop who dropped his duty belt in the parking lot. AKA as shit happens. PS There are now accounts of several other incidents and possibly people injured by P320 due to their not quite drop safe status. Soooo, something to think about. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:14:53 PM EDT
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Who the fuck wants to train with that douchenugget? P320s need to be drop safe for hay bale jumping and such. I don't know anything about the man and have only seen him on a few of those NRA training videos. 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:16:48 PM EDT
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I agree with that descision. I wonder how upgraded 320's will be marked to verify they were upgraded?
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:17:39 PM EDT
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I only show up to train with a 320 or known to drop fire aftermarket trigger in a Glock, Appendix carry, In a Serpa. 
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:20:25 PM EDT
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I agree with that descision. I wonder how upgraded 320's will be marked to verify they were upgraded? |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:23:03 PM EDT
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I believe the upgrade will involve a bitbof machining, which, if correct, ought to be fairly distinguishable, even if it involves removing the slide to verify before class starts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I agree with that descision. I wonder how upgraded 320's will be marked to verify they were upgraded? I really want to like Sig but this mess has left a bad taste in my mouth. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:25:43 PM EDT
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For those of us who live under rocks, what's wrong with Pincus? I don't know anything about the man and have only seen him on a few of those NRA training videos. He's also not a fan of micro 1911's, as he says they don't hold up well to serious use, such as at a multi hundred round class. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:32:25 PM EDT
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A number of people take issue with some things he's done in the past. At one class, years ago, he took a students pistol and tossed it for some reason (a one time event). He also was pushing something he called ShotFit, which was Crossfit meets shooting, where he introduced physical activity meant to get the heart rate going prior to shooting. One of the things he did on film was hang upside down from the overhead cover at a range and shoot at the target. He's also not a fan of micro 1911's, as he says they don't hold up well to serious use, such as at a multi hundred round class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those of us who live under rocks, what's wrong with Pincus? I don't know anything about the man and have only seen him on a few of those NRA training videos. He's also not a fan of micro 1911's, as he says they don't hold up well to serious use, such as at a multi hundred round class. -Physical activity and shooting? No problem there. I sure as hell could use more of both in my life. -Hang upside down and shoot at a target? Unorthodox, maybe, but I don't see a reason to be upset at that. -Micro 1911's (officer models) that don't hold up well to serious use? I thought that was common knowledge.
Apart from the first issue, and assuming he didn't have a good reason, he sounds like an interesting guy.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:35:26 PM EDT
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-I would need more information about the pistol throwing to be pissed about that (did he have permission, was there a valid reason, etc...). -Physical activity and shooting? No problem there. I sure as hell could use more of both in my life. -Hang upside down and shoot at a target? Unorthodox, maybe, but I don't see a reason to be upset at that. -Micro 1911's (officer models) that don't hold up well to serious use? I thought that was common knowledge.
Apart from the first issue, and assuming he didn't have a good reason, he sounds like an interesting guy. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:38:50 PM EDT
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I've never met him, I know some squared away guys who seem to like Pinky. He had an article once saying press checks were dumb on guns with loaded chamber indicators, the butthurt over that was hilarious
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:42:51 PM EDT
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He's also a Nevertrumper. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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-I would need more information about the pistol throwing to be pissed about that (did he have permission, was there a valid reason, etc...). -Physical activity and shooting? No problem there. I sure as hell could use more of both in my life. -Hang upside down and shoot at a target? Unorthodox, maybe, but I don't see a reason to be upset at that. -Micro 1911's (officer models) that don't hold up well to serious use? I thought that was common knowledge.
Apart from the first issue, and assuming he didn't have a good reason, he sounds like an interesting guy. I wrote openly about wanting Trump to be replaced at the GOP convention (I wanted Cruz). I didn't think Trump would win and I didn't trust him. I am happy to admit I was wrong and will gladly vote for Trump when he runs for re-election. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:43:11 PM EDT
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1911 The Sig? Fall any which way and BAM, the striker drops, firing the round any which way. The first is simple physics. The second is a design flaw. I'm a Sig fan and my EDC is a P938 which is fantastic. They dropped the fucking ball and need to own it. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:44:20 PM EDT
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Local 3-gun match here banned them last weekend unless they where 'upgraded'. They where worried about dump buckets and such. Offered loaners to folks that still wanted to play. I do see a lot more pistols coming out of holsters during 3gun matches vs USPSA. Because hard core gaming guns overall aren't all that drop safe either. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:45:35 PM EDT
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Does he strip them down and inspect them?
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:47:10 PM EDT
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This is a huge shitshow for Sig. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:49:05 PM EDT
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Does he strip them down and inspect them? |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:49:11 PM EDT
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Fuck Ronald McPincus, he's just a salesman trying to market himself.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:50:22 PM EDT
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Maybe its a ploy to get people to buy pd10s
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Posted: 8/16/2017 5:51:15 PM EDT
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In light 9f the seriousness of the issue, why wouldn't he, and why would a student have a problem with showing the instructor that the gun has been made safe? Afterall, the instructor's job is not just to impart knowledge, it's also to take reasonable precautions to mitigate the danger to students. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:02:34 PM EDT
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I've never understood the hate for him hear either. I've never taken a class with him, but I have taken a Combat Focus class with someone I have immense respect for, that worked directly with him several years ago.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:07:35 PM EDT
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A number of people take issue with some things he's done in the past. At one class, years ago, he took a students pistol and tossed it for some reason (a one time event). He also was pushing something he called ShotFit, which was Crossfit meets shooting, where he introduced physical activity meant to get the heart rate going prior to shooting. One of the things he did on film was hang upside down from the overhead cover at a range and shoot at the target. He's also not a fan of micro 1911's, as he says they don't hold up well to serious use, such as at a multi hundred round class. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For those of us who live under rocks, what's wrong with Pincus? I don't know anything about the man and have only seen him on a few of those NRA training videos. He's also not a fan of micro 1911's, as he says they don't hold up well to serious use, such as at a multi hundred round class. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:09:02 PM EDT
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Rob Pincus is fucking clownshoes anyways.
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:10:27 PM EDT
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Fuck Ronald McPincus, he's just a salesman trying to market himself. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:15:06 PM EDT
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I agree with that descision. I wonder how upgraded 320's will be marked to verify they were upgraded? That would make them really easy to ID, but there would also be a shit storm of bitching about a non-matching finish. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:19:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:25:31 PM EDT
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j By the way, he's a member here, though he doesn't post much. As such, calling him a douchenugget is actually a violation of the CoC. He has a pretty thick skin, though, so I doubt your opinion of him matters enough to him to care. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Tell it to the cop who dropped his duty belt in the parking lot. AKA as shit happens. PS There are now accounts of several other incidents and possibly people injured by P320 due to their not quite drop safe status. Soooo, something to think about. By the way, he's a member here, though he doesn't post much. As such, calling him a douchenugget is actually a violation of the CoC. He has a pretty thick skin, though, so I doubt your opinion of him matters enough to him to care. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:26:29 PM EDT
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Do they allow open competitors with highly modified Glocks and 2011s? Because hard core gaming guns overall aren't all that drop safe either. |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:29:56 PM EDT
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Don't recall hearing of him.
Is he some USPSA/IDPA/3 gun top level shooter, former SOF guy, a Cory that actually finished basic but shoots good, Yeager tool clone, ... some dude that shoots really good so just trying to make an honest living of it? |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 6:59:12 PM EDT
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Don't recall hearing of him. Is he some USPSA/IDPA/3 gun top level shooter, former SOF guy, a Cory that actually finished basic but shoots good, Yeager tool clone, ... some dude that shoots really good so just trying to make an honest living of it? |
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Posted: 8/16/2017 7:03:06 PM EDT
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Fuck Ronald McPincus, he's just a salesman trying to market himself. 
does he use "bro" and "dawg" in the same sentence? Like "Bro, if you aren't shooting a Larry Vickers glock you're gonna die, Dawg". I love that shit. |
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